---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 04/25/09: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:10 AM - Re: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (pj.ladd) 2. 01:17 AM - Re: Dumb short short landing technique question (pj.ladd) 3. 04:39 AM - Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (Thom Riddle) 4. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (Dana Hague) 5. 06:09 AM - Re: Stits (william sullivan) 6. 06:20 AM - Bing 54 (william sullivan) 7. 07:52 AM - Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (Ralph B) 8. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (russ kinne) 9. 09:02 AM - Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (lucien) 10. 10:47 AM - Re: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (Dana Hague) 11. 01:08 PM - Re: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (Richard Girard) 12. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Kolb crash yesterday (John Hauck) 13. 02:29 PM - Re: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. (John Hauck) 14. 02:34 PM - Re: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. (John Hauck) 15. 03:08 PM - Re: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. (Richard Girard) 16. 03:20 PM - Re: Re: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. (John Hauck) 17. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: slips (John Hauck) 18. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! (Dana Hague) 19. 04:12 PM - Re: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. (Jack B. Hart) 20. 05:54 PM - Re: slips (lucien) 21. 06:10 PM - Re: Sun and Fun 2009 (N111KX (Kip)) 22. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun 2009 (John Hauck) 23. 06:44 PM - Re: Sun and Fun 2009 (N111KX (Kip)) 24. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Kolb crash yesterday (Herb) 25. 07:22 PM - Re: Re: Kolb crash yesterday (John Hauck) 26. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun 2009 (chris davis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:10:50 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! Eeyikes, I get nervous flying over a town that low even underneath my 912>> Are you allowed to do that? Here we have had a rule about flying closer than a certain distance from any collection of people or overflying villages/towns etc. That has been removed just recently but the rule about keeping in a position so that you can glide clear of any conurbation still stands. This is generasl aviation rule not just microlights Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:20 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Dumb short short landing technique question It's not the GPS that keeps me aloft! -- I devoutly hope.>> Hi Russ, there are a lot of people around who rely utterly on the electronic gizmos, never draw a line on a map. Airliners don`t look where they are going....If the Satellites get switched off, or displaced by a few miles in the case of a long range rocket attack we shall all die....doom...doom, the end is nigh! Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:51 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! From: "Thom Riddle" The rule in the USA is stated in the FAR Part 91.119 as follows: 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General. Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes: (a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface. (b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft. (c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure. (d) Helicopters. Helicopters may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section if the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface. In addition, each person operating a helicopter shall comply with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241189#241189 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:27 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! At 04:10 AM 4/25/2009, pj.ladd wrote: >Eeyikes, I get nervous flying over a town that low even underneath my 912>> > >Are you allowed to do that? > >Here we have had a rule about flying closer than a certain distance from >any collection of people or overflying villages/towns etc. Here (for registered aircraft) it's 500' away from any person, vessel, or structure when over sparsely populated areas, or 1000' high over congested areas. There is an "except while taking off or landing" clause in there, and in one of the reports of the Florida incident I think I heard that they had just taken off. Also at one point in the video the passenger asks, "can you make it back?" so I assume he meant the airport they had just taken off from. Ultralights can't fly over a "congested area" or "assembly of persons" at any altitude, but other than that there is no minimum altitude or distance. -Dana -- 1200 bps used to seem so fast! ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:01 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Stits - I have read the manuals- short and long version- and found the referenc e to the electric spray gun.- I happen to have one, and that's why I aske d.--I have needed a compressor for quite a while anyway, so I may as we ll get one.- Anybody have any comments as to the actual, practical differ ences between gun types?- HVLP vs. conventional?- I never used an HVLP. - Also, I am looking for anyone's pet tips on the covering process.- I have done about 5 patches on Aerothane, and I have been practicing on an ex tra aileron.- The only things the manual is kind of vague on is working t he material on tight corners- like the trailing edge corner of the aileron. - Any hints appreciated. - Also, what is a good way to remove Aerothane from metal parts, like hin ges?- Wire brush?- I do not think heat would be appropriate.- Or woul d Poly Tone paint right over it? - ------------------------- ------------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------- FS 447 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:17 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Bing 54 - Here is what I found while rebuilding the Bing 54: Lots of caked in goo.- The choke seal was completely missing.- No "O" r ing on the needle.- The needle was installed with the snap ring on top of the plastic cup, instead of under it.- No equalizer tube- I installed on e.- Scott's tip on his web site about removing and installing the two spr ings was a great help- it takes all the work out of it.- - Apparently the carb problems were the cause of the poor running at idle - the same problem I had last year.- Runs smooth, and will come off idle without hesitation.- Just a little shudder at an idle, now and then.- A lmost no smoke- it would smoke at an idle before.- All numbers in the car b are correct, per the chart.- This unit is the easiest carb I've been in to- even easier than a Carter YO, and far different from a Rochester.- - Thanks for all the help. - ------------------------- ----------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ----------------------- Winds or Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ----------------------- FS 44 7 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:22 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! From: "Ralph B" Dana wrote: > At 04:10 AM 4/25/2009 > Ultralights can't fly over a "congested area" or "assembly of persons" at > any altitude, but other than that there is no minimum altitude or distance. > > -Dana Dana, ultralights must abide by GA regulation too. They are not exempt from anything except a license to fly. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 22 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 1 year flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241211#241211 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:07 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! Dana Sorry, but I think you're wrong . ALL aircraft must obey the altitude rules, Russ K On Apr 25, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Dana Hague wrote: > > At 04:10 AM 4/25/2009, pj.ladd wrote: > >> Eeyikes, I get nervous flying over a town that low even underneath >> my 912>> >> >> Are you allowed to do that? >> >> Here we have had a rule about flying closer than a certain >> distance from any collection of people or overflying villages/ >> towns etc. > > Here (for registered aircraft) it's 500' away from any person, > vessel, or structure when over sparsely populated areas, or 1000' > high over congested areas. There is an "except while taking off or > landing" clause in there, and in one of the reports of the Florida > incident I think I heard that they had just taken off. Also at one > point in the video the passenger asks, "can you make it back?" so I > assume he meant the airport they had just taken off from. > > Ultralights can't fly over a "congested area" or "assembly of > persons" at any altitude, but other than that there is no minimum > altitude or distance. > > -Dana > > -- > 1200 bps used to seem so fast! > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:56 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! From: "lucien" russ(at)rkiphoto.com wrote: > Dana > Sorry, but I think you're wrong . ALL aircraft must obey the > altitude rules, > Russ K > There are additional limitations in your op limits if you're an experimental. Some planes are slap prohibited from flying over "densly populated areas" and near "congested airways" period (except for takeoff and landing), such as was the case with my FSII. This is up to the DAR who issues your op limits when you get your AW cert. With my FSII, I assume it had that limitation because of the 2-stroke motor, dunno. But when I flew it here at my airport, if the tower needed me over here or over there and that was over a densely populated area, I darn sure went over here and over there anyway. I figure I was covered under "except takeoff and landing" and "must follow ATC instructions" in those cases...... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241217#241217 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:47:33 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! At 10:51 AM 4/25/2009, Ralph B wrote: >Dana, ultralights must abide by GA regulation too. They are not exempt >from anything except a license to fly. At 11:35 AM 4/25/2009, russ kinne wrote: >Sorry, but I think you're wrong . ALL aircraft must obey the altitude rules, No, Part 91 (which specifies, among other things, minimum altitude for aircraft) does NOT apply to ultralight vehicles operated under Part 103. =A7 91.1 Applicability. (a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of this section and =A7=A791.701 and 91.703, this part prescribes rules governing the operation of aircraft (other than moored balloons, kites, unmanned rockets, and unmanned free balloons, which are governed by part 101 of this chapter, and ultralight vehicles operated in accordance with part 103 of this chapter) within the United States... What this means is that Part 91 applies only to aircraft OTHER THAN ultralights. See also , which includes a letter from the FAA confirming that ultralights are not subject to the GA regulations. -Dana -- Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate in a pile outside. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! From: Richard Girard Of course there is the catch all 103.9: (a) No person may operate any ultralight vehicle in a manner that creates a hazard to other persons or property. And hazards, like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. Rick On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Dana Hague wrote: > At 10:51 AM 4/25/2009, Ralph B wrote: > > Dana, ultralights must abide by GA regulation too. They are not exempt fr om > anything except a license to fly. > > > At 11:35 AM 4/25/2009, russ kinne wrote: > > Sorry, but I think you're wrong . ALL aircraft must obey the altitude > rules, > > > No, Part 91 (which specifies, among other things, minimum altitude for > aircraft) does NOT apply to ultralight vehicles operated under Part 103. > =A7 91.1 Applicability. (a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b) and (c) of > this section and =A7=A791.701 and 91.703, this part prescribes rules gove rning > the operation of aircraft (other than moored balloons, kites, unmanned > rockets, and unmanned free balloons, which are governed by part 101 of th is > chapter, and ultralight vehicles operated in accordance with part 103 of > this chapter) within the United States... > > What this means is that Part 91 applies only to aircraft OTHER THAN > ultralights. > > See also , which includes a letter > from the FAA confirming that ultralights are not subject to the GA > regulations. > > -Dana > > > -- > Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate in a pile outside. > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:04:38 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb crash yesterday > The fitting where the landing gear leg attaches to the axle broke, the wheel came off, and the gear leg dug in. (Tongue in cheek comment follows:) That was not helpful. (I WILL be talking this over with Travis) When we put it back together, the new fitting will get gusseted. I am also planning to gusset the fitting on my MKIII if it is similar. Fool me once, etc... > > Richard Pike Just got home from Lakeland. Was sitting here drinking coffee and reading emails when I came upon this one. You must have missed my posts after I crashed at Muncho Lake, BC, 1 July 2000. Cause of crash: failed gear leg/axle socket. Cure: What Brother Jim wanted to do initially and I didn't, weld the axle socket to the steel gear leg. Been flying with the axle socket welded to the end of the steel gear leg since rebuild. Don't need no stinking gussets on welded .120" wall axle socket and gear leg. Works great. Wish I had listened to my big brother. Thoroughly tested mains and tail landing at Cedar Key, Florida, last Tuesday. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:21 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. The failure was due to fabric on this plane. Many will say that checking the fabric would have prevented this accident, which is true. > > Mike Did they say why the fabric failed? I didn't see the reason for failure. Met your Dad at Lakeland. Enjoyed talking with him. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:34:13 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. If you ever do need one, you'll probably scream all the way to impact, if you aren't too scared. john h mkIII (Member of the Switlik Caterpillar Club twice.) From: Blumax008@aol.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. As for a BRS, I've been flying ultralights since 1978 & never used one & never needed one. I'm 60 years of age & if I go tomorrow nobody will give a crap including me....nobody but my insurance company that is. The money I've saved in purchasing one & buying repacks has been phenominal for over 30 years. Those thousands of dollars saved have bought me a hell of a lot more flying time. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. From: Richard Girard John, Take a close look at the amount of fabric that's there. There doesn't seem to be enough to wrap around to the leading edge, and, there appears to be a glue line just in front of the horizontal stabilizer spar. Rick On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:26 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > > The failure was due to fabric on this plane. Many will say that checking > the fabric would have prevented this accident, which is true. > > > >> Mike >> > > Did they say why the fabric failed? I didn't see the reason for failure. > > Met your Dad at Lakeland. Enjoyed talking with him. > > john h > mkIII > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 03:20:01 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. I hardly detected any wear when I replaced them after many years of flying. > > Ralph Ralph: Years don't wear out Kolbs, but hours of operation do. ;-) john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:22 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: slips > I havn't seen my 912 CHT's drop precipitously in a descent and the oil temps tend to remain up too, but I still always apply power slowly when doing TnG's (I never hammer to wide open unless it's a priority situation). > > LS Do you have to be careful for shock cooling with a 912? Mine doesn't have a cast iron liner. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:24:39 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: INCREDIBLE engine fialure video from Florida !!! At 04:07 PM 4/25/2009, Richard Girard wrote: >Of course there is the catch all 103.9: > >(a) No person may operate any ultralight vehicle in a manner that creates >a hazard to other persons or property. > >And hazards, like beauty, are in the eye of the beholder. Yes, that's even more vague than the definition of "congested area"! And just like 91.13 ("careless or reckless operation") for GA pilots. No matter what they violate you for, they always throw that one in for another $1000, like the proverbial cherry on top. -Dana -- The missionaries go forth to Christianize the savages-- as if the savages weren't dangerous enough already. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 04:12:24 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Another BRS SAVE !!! Here is a guy alive today because he.. At 04:26 PM 4/25/09 -0500, you wrote: > > > The failure was due to fabric on this plane. Many will say that checking >the fabric would have prevented this accident, which is true. > > >> Mike > >Did they say why the fabric failed? I didn't see the reason for failure. > >Met your Dad at Lakeland. Enjoyed talking with him. > John, Looking at the top photo and blowing it up, it appears that the fabric did not fail. It looks like the fabric was not lapped over the leading edge of the horizontal stabilizer/elevator. Instead the fabric started on the alumunium D tube just a head of the spar. One can see that the spar area is not polished and appears to be the bonding surface. Everything ahead of this on the D tube seems to be polished. It looks like the bond failed some were on the top or bottom. Once an edge picked up it presurized the inside and finished the job. The owner told the FAA he was flying an ultralight vehicle. But after Googling him, I found that he had mounted an HKS engine. So go figure. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:54:12 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: slips From: "lucien" John Hauck wrote: > > > Do you have to be careful for shock cooling with a 912? > > Mine doesn't have a cast iron liner. > > john h > mkIII I don't worry about it myself on any engine I have, I"ve never had any problems that I could trace to rapid cooling. OTOH, I'm extremely careful about proper warmup before putting an engine to work. Especially my 2-strokes that all had steel liners, if I did a long descent say in a practice engine-out, I'd usually do a full-stop taxi back with a quick warmup. Even doing TnG's under the 912 I apply power on the go slooowly.... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241268#241268 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:22 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2009 From: "N111KX (Kip)" After 7 hours of flying today (thank you, tailwind) I'm back in ATL. Despite everyone nagging about the attendance being down I had the most fun than in 4 previous SnF's. It was because of the people, mostly. As I pulled off the runway upon arrival a woman comes up and offers to help push me off the flight line. I thought that it may be Arty but, unsure so I asked if she flew in and she said yes. I asked from where and she calmly said "Oregon". Well "Hello Arty!" I ended up camping so close to her that I all day I heard members of the crowd say "there's that lady" as they spotted her plane. The Kolb factory folks took me out to a nice dinner making me feel like part of the family. Thanks, Travis, Dennis, Bryan, and Bruce. John H was by often looking for a drinking buddy, coffee that is. Ask him about his ride on the Mayflower next time you see him. Also, good talking to all of you guys from this forum and those who recognized my FSII from youtube. See you all soon... -------- Kip Firestar II, N111KX Waiex, N111YX Quickie 1, N111QX Atlanta Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241270#241270 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:17 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2009 > After 7 hours of flying today (thank you, tailwind) I'm back in ATL. > -------- > Kip Glad you made it home quickly and safely. I enjoyed spending time with you at Lakeland. I also had a great time, saw a lot of old friends and met more new ones, even one who accused me of ordering the Prudhoe Bay, Alaska, sticker that was on the side of my nose cone. ;-) Every once in a while us Kolb flyers will encounter a real "a" hole. Not very often, but I did today, when I landed for fuel in Perry, Florida. He pulled up in front of me as I was refueling. I take joking and teasing pretty good from folks I know, and hand out my share. But, when an arrogant SOB comes up to me, after getting out of his little $100,000+ glass LSA and demeaningly refers to my MKIII as a "hummer", a "bug", etc., I reach my tolerance point in a hurry. I can assure you, after counseling him a bit, he will think twice before he approaches another Kolb flyer at an unfamiliar airport and make the comments he made to me about my old airplane. I flew a little less than 900 miles in a little less than 9 hours. Not bad for an 80 mph airplane. Was blessed with a great tailwind going and coming. Now it is time to get ready for Monument Valley. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:44:22 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2009 From: "N111KX (Kip)" Wish I could have heard that conversation.... 8) -------- Kip Firestar II, N111KX Waiex, N111YX Quickie 1, N111QX Atlanta Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241273#241273 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:57 PM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb crash yesterday John Are you sure it is a good idea to weld to tempered steel? My info says that doing so is a no no...Creates a real stress riser.... I have a buddy who welded the step back onto his Cessna 172 and the gear leg cracked and came apart with the plane sitting parked... I know it has lasted a long time....but....fwiw.... Herb At 04:03 PM 4/25/2009, you wrote: > > > > The fitting where the landing gear leg attaches to the axle > broke, the wheel came off, and the gear leg dug in. (Tongue in > cheek comment follows:) That was not helpful. (I WILL be talking > this over with Travis) When we put it back together, the new > fitting will get gusseted. I am also planning to gusset the fitting > on my MKIII if it is similar. Fool me once, etc... > > >>Richard Pike > >Just got home from Lakeland. Was sitting here drinking coffee and >reading emails when I came upon this one. > >You must have missed my posts after I crashed at Muncho Lake, BC, 1 >July 2000. Cause of crash: failed gear leg/axle socket. > >Cure: What Brother Jim wanted to do initially and I didn't, weld >the axle socket to the steel gear leg. Been flying with the axle >socket welded to the end of the steel gear leg since >rebuild. Don't need no stinking gussets on welded .120" wall axle >socket and gear leg. Works great. Wish I had listened to my big brother. > >Thoroughly tested mains and tail landing at Cedar Key, Florida, last Tuesday. > >john h >mkIII > > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >04/25/09 08:29:00 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:31 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb crash yesterday > Are you sure it is a good idea to weld to tempered steel? Herb > We weld, fit, drill, then send the legs to the heat treater. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:21 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2009 -John , I went to sun&fun today- as I had to meet a gent from the list Fred Kerfoot said hevwas a helicopter pilot like you ,I sold him an old Ful l Lotus- Monofloat I had from my KXP that went well . The most disappoint ing thing was I was to late to visit with you! I look forward to seeing you but I was too late Travis , Dennis and my new best friend in the Kolb worl d Brian were all very good to Becky and I. I got to get in a Firefly for th e first time ! a little difficult for me as I dont have full control of my feet but I got in and when I got out it was muchn smoother than the entry. when I left there I went to the "Sky Arrow "display and got in a Skyarrow t he only aircraft I have found with a disabled Pilots rudder control Now tha t I know about the rigging I think Brian and I or perhaps just I can come u p with a set of controls I can use without my feet that I can install in th e Firefly and fly away!I may stop in Atlanta on the way home and take an hour of instruction to see if it fits. So Sorry we didnt get to see you . The invite is still open if you get to New England come to Chatham--M unicipal Airport and walk over to my house and spend a while .- Chris & B ecky Davis=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A'=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: John Hauck =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:3 2:54 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Sun and Fun 2009=0A=0A--> Kolb-List m essage posted by: "John Hauck" =0A=0A=0A> After 7 hou rs of flying today (thank you, tailwind) I'm back in ATL.=0A> --------=0A> Kip=0A=0A=0AGlad you made it home quickly and safely.=0A=0AI enjoyed spendi ng time with you at Lakeland.=0A=0AI also had a great time, saw a lot of ol d friends and met more new ones, even one who accused me of ordering the Pr udhoe Bay, Alaska, sticker that was on the side of my nose cone.- ;-)=0A =0AEvery once in a while us Kolb flyers will encounter a real "a" hole.- Not very often, but I did today, when I landed for fuel in Perry, Florida. - He pulled up in front of me as I was refueling.- I take joking and te asing pretty good from folks I know, and hand out my share.- But, when an arrogant SOB comes up to me, after getting out of his little $100,000+ gla ss LSA and demeaningly refers to my MKIII as a "hummer", a "bug", etc., I r each my tolerance point in a hurry.- I can assure you, after counseling h im a bit, he will think twice before he approaches another Kolb flyer at an unfamiliar airport and make the comments he made to me about my old airpla ne.=0A=0AI flew a little less than 900 miles in a little less than 9 hours. - Not bad for an 80 mph airplane.- Was blessed with a great tailwind go ing and coming.=0A=0ANow it is time to get ready for Monument Valley.=0A=0A =========================0A ===================0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.