Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 04/27/09


Total Messages Posted: 33



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     1. 03:04 AM - harmonics (Ted Cowan)
     2. 04:22 AM - Re: Sun and Fun 2009 (Thom Riddle)
     3. 05:23 AM - props (Ted Cowan)
     4. 05:37 AM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun 2009 (frank.goodnight)
     5. 05:53 AM - Re: harmonics (John Hauck)
     6. 06:53 AM - Re: harmonics (Jack B. Hart)
     7. 07:34 AM - Re: props (JetPilot)
     8. 08:10 AM - Note of appreciation (Watkinsdw)
     9. 08:28 AM - Re: props (HShack@aol.com)
    10. 09:13 AM - Warp Drive on my Firestar? (Kirkds)
    11. 09:21 AM - Re: Note of appreciation (Ron)
    12. 09:54 AM - Re: Warp Drive on my Firestar? (lucien)
    13. 09:56 AM - Any suggestions for sticking altimeter?- try SPF-50 (Ron)
    14. 11:01 AM - Re: props (JetPilot)
    15. 11:27 AM - Another cross country - Vidalia AirShow (cristalclear13)
    16. 11:39 AM - Re: props (lucien)
    17. 11:44 AM - Re: props (lucien)
    18. 12:04 PM - Re: Note of appreciation (Watkinsdw)
    19. 12:11 PM - Re: Re: Note of appreciation (loseyf@comcast.net)
    20. 12:35 PM - Re: Another cross country - Vidalia AirShow (Mike Welch)
    21. 12:54 PM - Re: Monument Valley (dalewhelan)
    22. 01:09 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (Herb)
    23. 01:43 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (John Hauck)
    24. 04:03 PM - Re: Another cross country - Vidalia AirShow (N111KX (Kip))
    25. 06:27 PM - Re: Warp Drive on my Firestar? (HShack@aol.com)
    26. 06:36 PM - Re: Note of appreciation (Watkinsdw)
    27. 06:39 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (zeprep251@aol.com)
    28. 06:51 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (John Hauck)
    29. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (TheWanderingWench)
    30. 08:39 PM - Re: Monument Valley (dalewhelan)
    31. 09:19 PM - Re: Note of appreciation (John Bickham)
    32. 09:31 PM - Re: Re: Note of appreciation (Ron)
    33. 09:59 PM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (robert bean)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:04:20 AM PST US
    From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: harmonics
    Okay, round two. The prop I installed on my slingshot was a warp three blade with taper tips, 66 inches. Way shorter than my 70 incher. The blades were smooth and clean as they should be, not full of cloth marks AND the blades were even, instead of one tip being skinnier. The second time I installed them I had the plane tied down and really ran it up. As it were, the pitch was not correct at 12 and a half degrees, needed more but it was a lot quieter than mine. Only problem was the harmonics were still there. I could hear it better with this prop. It is definately coming from the engine. It is not rolling, just making the harmonics sound. Although I believe I would be better off with new and better blades from WD, I dont at this time feel they would send them to me because I dont think they are the actual culprit, only the device to amplify the sound. The blades are still crap. I do not know where to go next. I guess I will have to go to Florida and pay to have it checked out at Lockwood and if it is a warranty issue, maybe they can fix it. I have plenty of proof it was there from the beginning. Other than that, I guess I will have to live with it. Sorry, I thought for a fleeting minute I had the cure. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot, 912UL


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    Time: 04:22:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun and Fun 2009
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    Dana, Be careful maligning Plymouth Station Wagons and not being exciting. I had some pretty exciting times in the back of one in my youth. Of course I wasn't driving the wagon at the time :-). do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241398#241398


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    Time: 05:23:36 AM PST US
    From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: props
    Is anyone using a Kiev prop on a 912UL. If so, what length, etc. Does it perform better, worse, than say, WD constant speed? Is it worth the price? Ted Cowan, Slingshot 912UL. Oh yeah, is it really quieter?


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    Time: 05:37:34 AM PST US
    From: "frank.goodnight" <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun and Fun 2009
    Just got home from sun and fun, I think there were less people [tue & wed] than last year , but more a/c in paradise city. Had a great time looking at air planes and talking to people. Sure was disapointed that the [Fly-Kolb] plane was not makeing it's usual round every 3 min. Spent quite a bit of time at the Kolb tent, as usual whenever I talk with Bryan Melborn I learned something new, also his wife Helen gave me a few tips on useing my new digital camera. Was good to see Travis as I talk to him so often on the phone {great group]. Also I was happy to meet some of the people that use the Kolb-List. Can't wait to get to M.V. this will be my first time there, Frank Goodnight F.S. 2 Brownsville , TX do not archive On Apr 27, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > Dana, > > Be careful maligning Plymouth Station Wagons and not being exciting. > I had some pretty exciting times in the back of one in my youth. Of > course I wasn't driving the wagon at the time :-). > > do not archive > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY > http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi > http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix > > A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from > a simple system that works. > - John Gaule > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241398#241398 > >


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    Time: 05:53:06 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: harmonics
    Although I > believe I would be better off with new and better blades from WD, I dont > at this time feel they would send them to me because I dont think they are > the actual culprit, only the device to amplify the sound. The blades are > still crap. I do not know where to go next. Ted Cowan You have been giving Warp Drive a pretty bad rap about your prop. I believe Warp Drive stands behind their life time guarantee of satisfaction, but they can do nothing if you do not communicate with them. If I was as dissatisfied with my prop as you seem to be, instead of whining on the internet and doing nothing, I think I would pick up the telephone and get working on a solution. I have been flying Warp Drive Props for 16 years and over 3,000 hours, on 912's, on Kolb aircraft. Never had a prop problem I did not create myself. Along the way I haven't heard of defective Warp Drives, and I am sure Daryl does not want a single one out there to tarnish his company's good reputation. It is about 220 miles from your airstrip to Ronnie Smith's airstrip, a three hour flight. Takes about an hour to pull the gearbox, inspect it, reshim it, and put it back on the engine. A quick and simple job. A lot closer than Lockwood in Sebring, FL. If you didn't want to fly, you can pull the gear box and drive to Ronnie's, or box it up and ship it to him. Gearbox removal on a 912 is a quick and easy job. Warp Drive can not fix your problem if you do not talk to them. Daryl said he had not heard from you in well over a year. john h mkIII


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    Time: 06:53:23 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: harmonics
    Ted, Sounda likw you are making progress. If your original propeller was a three blade, the move from 72 to 66 inches gave you a decrease in propeller interia. It would be interesting to see what would happen if you could borrow a lower inertia propeller, such as, a Powefin. Jack B. Hart FF004 Wichester, IN At 05:03 AM 4/27/09 -0500, you wrote: > >Okay, round two. The prop I installed on my slingshot was a warp three >blade with taper tips, 66 inches. Way shorter than my 70 incher. The >blades were smooth and clean as they should be, not full of cloth marks AND >the blades were even, instead of one tip being skinnier. The second time I >installed them I had the plane tied down and really ran it up. As it were, >the pitch was not correct at 12 and a half degrees, needed more but it was a >lot quieter than mine. Only problem was the harmonics were still there. I >could hear it better with this prop. It is definately coming from the >engine. It is not rolling, just making the harmonics sound. Although I >believe I would be better off with new and better blades from WD, I dont at >this time feel they would send them to me because I dont think they are the >actual culprit, only the device to amplify the sound. The blades are still >crap. I do not know where to go next. I guess I will have to go to Florida >and pay to have it checked out at Lockwood and if it is a warranty issue, >maybe they can fix it. I have plenty of proof it was there from the >beginning. Other than that, I guess I will have to live with it. Sorry, I >thought for a fleeting minute I had the cure. Ted Cowan, Alabama, >Slingshot, 912UL >


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    Time: 07:34:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: props
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    I had a Kiev Hot prop on my MK-III Xtra with a Rotax 912-S. It is a beautiful looking prop, but much to lightly made. The blades, the hub, and even the spacer looked to fragile to last over time. It always worried me, and I found myself checking it constantly. What pushed me over the edge was when a local airline maintenance inspector that also works on experimental airplanes said " I don't see how that can last hundreds of hours " I ordered and installed a Warp Drive prop soon after. Installing he Warp drive was the best thing I could have done safety wise. The warp drive stayed together when I ran my Lockwood Pressure Gage set through the prop while balancing the carbs at full power [Shocked] The Kiev Prop would have most definitely come apart and over-sped the engine. On a pusher, things do go through the prop, muffler parts, oil caps, you never know what, but it does happen. The very strong Warp Drive prop is a huge safety advantage on a pusher. -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241422#241422


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    Time: 08:10:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Note of appreciation
    From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0@gmail.com>
    I'd like to recognize two people who have made my partner's and my experience as new Kolbers enjoyable and doable. First, we bought an immaculate and meticulously-build MKIII Classic from someone you all know, Steven Green. What a craftsman and gentleman! The only regret I have about buying his beautiful aircraft is that it means he's not in the air (for now.) Second, we are eternally grateful to Jim Kmet, of Cookesville, TN, who "oriented" us on what seems like the only CAVU day Tennessee has had in months. With great patience, good humor and not the least, courage, he helped two private pilots transition into the world of Kolbs. An avid S&F'er, I've wanted a Kolb for years, and since it looks like I'll never be able to retire, I bought my retirement fantasy early. I also don't have the patience/skill to build my own. If that weren't enough, Jim took a detour (8 hours round trip) on his way to S&F to spend a day at our home base, Pompano, FL, (KPMP) to help work out the kinks in our transition. Two wonderful gentlemen pilots, who deserve a round of applause. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241433#241433


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    Time: 08:28:04 AM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: props
    Kiev prop.......... I have a 68" 3 blade on my FS II; it replaced a WD. Reason I changed is because the Warp got a small split in the end of one blade & the slightly used Kiev was available for a real good price. Kiev is better looking, I like the white front & the scimitar shape, it is quieter on my plane {but I have about a 3" extension on it}, it's lighter, performance seems about the same as the Warp. Price is about the same. Robert Broadwell has a MkIIIC on floats & a Highlander, both with 912S at our field. They both have Kiev's- 70" I think. He especially likes the toughness of the Kiev, as he has close to 1,000 water takeoffs w/ that prop [float-plane props take a beating from the spray]. Howard Shackleford FS II SC In a message dated 4/27/2009 8:23:57 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tc1917@bellsouth.net writes: Is anyone using a Kiev prop on a 912UL. If so, what length, etc. Does it perform better, worse, than say, WD constant speed? Is it worth the price? Ted Cowan, Slingshot 912UL. Oh yeah, is it really quieter? **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)


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    Time: 09:13:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Warp Drive on my Firestar?
    From: "Kirkds" <kirkds@dishmail.net>
    I'm going to put a Warp drive prop on my Firestar that has a 503, twin carb, B box. What is the best one, 2 blade or three blade and what diameter? Thanks! Kirk Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241449#241449


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    Time: 09:21:44 AM PST US
    From: Ron <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Note of appreciation
    this is some great coincidence I will soon be relocating to Pompano and its good to know that there are some Kolbers there. I was there about two weeks ago and really enjoyed the airport. Probably the best airport in that part of Florida and the main reason I am going to settle in that area just as soon as I sell my house out here in Arizona. Maybe I'll finally get a chance to finish building my own M3X. Ron @ KFHU ================== ---- Watkinsdw <david.watkins0@gmail.com> wrote: ============ I'd like to recognize two people who have made my partner's and my experience as new Kolbers enjoyable and doable. First, we bought an immaculate and meticulously-build MKIII Classic from someone you all know, Steven Green. What a craftsman and gentleman! The only regret I have about buying his beautiful aircraft is that it means he's not in the air (for now.) Second, we are eternally grateful to Jim Kmet, of Cookesville, TN, who "oriented" us on what seems like the only CAVU day Tennessee has had in months. With great patience, good humor and not the least, courage, he helped two private pilots transition into the world of Kolbs. An avid S&F'er, I've wanted a Kolb for years, and since it looks like I'll never be able to retire, I bought my retirement fantasy early. I also don't have the patience/skill to build my own. If that weren't enough, Jim took a detour (8 hours round trip) on his way to S&F to spend a day at our home base, Pompano, FL, (KPMP) to help work out the kinks in our transition. Two wonderful gentlemen pilots, who deserve a round of applause. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241433#241433 -- kugelair.com


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    Time: 09:54:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Warp Drive on my Firestar?
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    Kirkds wrote: > I'm going to put a Warp drive prop on my Firestar that has a 503, twin carb, B box. What is the best one, 2 blade or three blade and what diameter? Thanks! Kirk I believe the WD in 3 blades is a little over the MOI limits of the B box. Someone did some MOI measurements (can't remember who or where) a while back and I believe the WD was found to be over in terms of inertia in 3 blades. Even so, the throttle response will be pretty poor and the motor will be hard to start, etc. If it were me with a 503 B box, I'd start with 66" in 2 blades and run the taper tip for both performance reasons and to keep the MOI down. Course, Daryl and the folks at WD will know all the numbers on this. I had a 68" 3 blade taper on my FSII with the 3.47:1 C box. That's about the best possible combination you can get on that plane, tho it does add extra weight in kind of a bad place. LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241459#241459


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    Time: 09:56:51 AM PST US
    From: Ron <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Any suggestions for sticking altimeter?- try SPF-50
    Well, your best bet outside of either buying a new one or OH the one you have is to open it up and spray some SPF-50 into it. It takes it sometime to work its magic, but providing you don't have any "real Mechanical" defects it will fix the problem. Keep in mind that its not an approved repair or any other "proper" repair but since we are dealing with an experimental or Ultralight you can do as you wish. I am a recent convert to the Spf-50 and Corrosion-X treatments and I can say this, it has corrected some anomalies to include the keyboard on this current HP Laptop of about 8 years of usage. Among "other" things. Ron @ KFHU ====================== ---- John Bickham <gearbender@bellsouth.net> wrote: ============ Hello folks, Was wondering if anyone has any suggestions for a sticking altimeter? I know the obvious suggestion is buy a new one. Probably will do that. It is sticking around 500 ft. That is kinda where I spend a lot of time. Must have wore the mechanism out there. It will come unstuck with a few taps or with enough gain in altitude. We stay in a very humid and wet environment. I think the guts have rusted or something. Just wondering if there are I tricks out there for this? Looking at AS&S for new altimeter. Trying to work on squawk list for MV. Yesterday, flew 2.3 hours with 9 cross wind landings (15 knots) to build up my wind threshold for the trip out west. Trying to get ready. Appreciate any help or suggestions. Stay safe. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough ones. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=237826#237826 -- kugelair.com


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    Time: 11:01:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: props
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    HShack(at)aol.com wrote: > > He especially likes the toughness of the Kiev, as he has close to 1,000 water takeoffs w/ that prop [float-plane props take a beating from the spray]. > > The Kiev has nickel leading edge plating, as does the Warp Drive, this makes it suitable for flying in Rain, Floats, where water would be hitting the leading edge. Either prop would be fine on floats. This does NOT make the Kiev a tough prop, to the contrary, the Kiev is very light and fragile. For mounting on a pusher Kolb MK III, you need a very strong prop capable of staying together when a foreign object goes through it, not one that is ONLY resistant to water spray. Look at the picture below, putting 100 HP into that narrow aluminum prop spacer is not something I was comfortable with. My Warp Drive prop has a much bigger mounting bolt pattern and much larger diameter spacer. Both the Hub and Prop blades are extremely light, definitely not what I want considering the strong power pulses of the Rotax 912. But if anyone wants a good, slightly used Kiev Prop for a Rotax 912, I have one for sale !!! As much as I would like to sell this prop and get back some of the money I paid for it, I am not the type of person that would sell something that might get someone hurt in their Kolb just so that I can profit. If anyone wants to buy this prop, they will get my honest opinion about and its potential hazards first. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241477#241477 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ultralightmikekolbpropspacer12_19_2006_44_659.jpg


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    Time: 11:27:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Another cross country - Vidalia AirShow
    From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
    Hi all. Got my muffler back on after replacing the internal and external gaskets but the thing is still leaking. Other than that, my plane is flying great. I took a little longer cross country trip (farther than Douglas) this past Saturday to Vidalia, Georgia. They had an airshow for their Onion Festival, and the EAA chapter there was wanting some planes for their static display and was offering free admission if you flew in. So I flew my Kolb Mark II and my gyrocopter friend flew formation with me. Our RV-9 friend flew up also and beat us coming and going of course. That is a fast plane. It took me an hour and fifteen to get there and and hour and a half on the way back. Straight trip up there is 56NM but the route we took was 62NM one way. It was a gorgeous day for flying. I really enjoyed myself. We really had to keep an eye on our planes though. Parents either didn't watch their kids or they just let their kids do whatever they wanted. One little girl thought my horizontal stabilizer was a seat. Before we knew it another girl had climbed onto the RV-9 and when she got down she started shaking his flaps really hard. Some teens plopped into the seat of the gyrocopter and started flipping switches. So we watched the airshow from under my wings (thank the Lord for that shade or we wouldn't have made it through the day...it was so hot). We'll have to make some big Don't Touch signs if we go to another show. Anyways, here's the link to the slideshow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ4m2qudqvs Oh, concerning my elevator... The other picture must have been a shadow or the angle. The gyrocopter pilot said my elevator was straight out when flying straight and level. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241484#241484 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/vidalia_onion_festival_004_141.jpg


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    Time: 11:39:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: props
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    JetPilot wrote: > > HShack(at)aol.com wrote: > > > > He especially likes the toughness of the Kiev, as he has close to 1,000 water takeoffs w/ that prop [float-plane props take a beating from the spray]. > > > > > > > The Kiev has nickel leading edge plating, as does the Warp Drive, this makes it suitable for flying in Rain, Floats, where water would be hitting the leading edge. Either prop would be fine on floats. This does NOT make the Kiev a tough prop, to the contrary, the Kiev is very light and fragile. For mounting on a pusher Kolb MK III, you need a very strong prop capable of staying together when a foreign object goes through it, not one that is ONLY resistant to water spray. > > Look at the picture below, putting 100 HP into that narrow aluminum prop spacer is not something I was comfortable with. My Warp Drive prop has a much bigger mounting bolt pattern and much larger diameter spacer. Both the Hub and Prop blades are extremely light, definitely not what I want considering the strong power pulses of the Rotax 912. But if anyone wants a good, slightly used Kiev Prop for a Rotax 912, I have one for sale !!! As much as I would like to sell this prop and get back some of the money I paid for it, I am not the type of person that would sell something that might get someone hurt in their Kolb just so that I can profit. If anyone wants to buy this prop, they will get my honest opinion about and its potential hazards first. > > Mike What diameter is it and how much you want for it? LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241488#241488


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    Time: 11:44:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: props
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    Oh, never mind. I see it doesn't have the right bolt pattern for my extension... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241491#241491


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    Time: 12:04:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Note of appreciation
    From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0@gmail.com>
    Hi, Ron, Welcome aboard. Let us know when you arrive. I'm sure we can learn from each other, and it will be great to have a sister ship to fly with. If you want to chat off-line, use david.watkins0@gmail.com. Dave and Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241497#241497


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    Time: 12:11:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Note of appreciation
    From: loseyf@comcast.net
    Gents I would love to sit and chat with both of you as I am just starting the building process in Boca Raton. I would welcome joining for Lunch sometime..... Fran Losey ------Original Message------ From: Watkinsdw Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Apr 27, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Note of appreciation Hi, Ron, Welcome aboard. Let us know when you arrive. I'm sure we can learn from each other, and it will be great to have a sister ship to fly with. If you want to chat off-line, use david.watkins0@gmail.com. Dave and Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241497#241497 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 12:35:18 PM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Another cross country - Vidalia AirShow
    >Parents either didn't watch their kids or they just let their kids do what ever they wanted. We'll >have to make some big Don't Touch signs if we go t o another show. -------- > Cristal Waters Christal=2C Sounds like it's time to invest in a Taser! That'll learn 'em. Mike Welch MkIII _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99 SkyDrive=99: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_skydrive_042009


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    Time: 12:54:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    From: "dalewhelan" <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>
    is there an airport that seems to attract all these unofficial Kolbs? This will be my first time. I would hate to miss the festivities. -------- Dale Whelan 503 powered Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241518#241518


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    Time: 01:09:45 PM PST US
    From: Herb <herbgh@nctc.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    Yep It is mating season for the big whooping crane and his flock... You don't think TNK builds these planes?? do you?? :-) Herb do not archive At 02:53 PM 4/27/2009, you wrote: > >is there an airport that seems to attract all these unofficial >Kolbs? This will be my first time. I would hate to miss the festivities. > >-------- >Dale Whelan >503 powered Firestar II > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241518#241518 > > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >04/27/09 06:19:00


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    Time: 01:43:40 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    > is there an airport that seems to attract all these unofficial Kolbs? This will be my first time. I would hate to miss the festivities. > > -------- > Dale Whelan Be looking forward to seeing you at Monument Valley. Biggest festivity we have is sitting under the wing of someone's Kolb telling lies and gourging ourselves up at the Gouldings Restaurant. Once in a while we get out and fly around the monuments, especially the new guys. UT25 Monument Valley Airport 15-17 May (although most of us will arrive Thursday, 14 May and depart Sunday morning 17 May) 7th Annual Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley Utah Gets better every year. john h mkIII "Monument Valley Clique"


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    Time: 04:03:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another cross country - Vidalia AirShow
    From: "N111KX (Kip)" <n111kx@mindspring.com>
    Looks like a great time. The small town fly-ins can be the best... -------- Kip Firestar II, N111KX Waiex, N111YX Quickie 1, N111QX Atlanta Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241560#241560


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    Time: 06:27:12 PM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Warp Drive on my Firestar?
    With the "B" box, I'm sure the 3 blade has too much inertia, & I THINK the 2 blade may be too much. Call Warp. Howard Shackleford FS II SC In a message dated 4/27/2009 12:14:15 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, kirkds@dishmail.net writes: I'm going to put a Warp drive prop on my Firestar that has a 503, twin carb, B box. What is the best one, 2 blade or three blade and what diameter? Thanks! Kirk **************Access 350+ FREE radio stations anytime from anywhere on the web. Get the Radio Toolbar! (http://toolbar.aol.com/aolradio/download.html?ncid=emlcntusdown00000003)


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    Time: 06:36:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Note of appreciation
    From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0@gmail.com>
    Perhaps this weekend, Fran. Especially if it continues to be too windy to fly. Call me. 954 608 5423. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241582#241582


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    Time: 06:39:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    John, ? The wife wants to know if she will be the only girl there?I suggested she bake a batch of her toll house cookies,to share and that would pretty much guarantee her plenty of company.She said thats not what she meant! But I will keep working on the cookie angle just in case.Hope to see you all about the 14th . ??????????????????????????????? G Aman MK-3C Jabiru 2200----Original Message-----From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> Sent: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 4:43 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley ? > is there an airport that seems to attract all these unofficial Kolbs? This will be my first time. I would hate to miss the festivities.? >? > --------? > Dale Whelan? ? ? Be looking forward to seeing you at Monument Valley.? ? Biggest festivity we have is sitting under the wing of someone's Kolb telling lies and gourging ourselves up at the Gouldings Restaurant.? ? Once in a while we get out and fly around the monuments, especially the new guys.? ? UT25? ? Monument Valley Airport? ? 15-17 May (although most of us will arrive Thursday, 14 May and depart Sunday morning 17 May)? ? 7th Annual Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley Utah? ? Gets better every year.? ? john h? mkIII? "Monument Valley Clique" ? ? ?


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    Time: 06:51:30 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    The wife wants to know if she will be the only girl there? G Aman MK-3C Jabiru 2200 No, your wife will not be the only girl there. In addition to Arty, who is flying in, there will be other girls there. She'll most likely have plenty company. My assumption is based on the past flyins. Looking forward to seeing you all there. john h mkIII


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    Time: 07:50:13 PM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    Let's be careful with our wording. Your wife will not be the only WOMAN there - there will be others of the female persuasion.:>) I mention this because of a funny thing that happened when I was at Sun n Fun. I was talking to a float plane pilot (whom I have never met, so he was just a voice on the phone.) He told me that if I met any girls, to send them over to the Splash In and he'd give them a free ride. I'm busy promoting the Penelope Pilot Project, which encourages girls to spread their wings, hopefully through aviation but also in any other way. So when an excited 8 year old girl came to see me and my Drifter, I gave her parents the float pilot's invitation. You can guess the ending to this story. He called me that evening, saying that he is a single guy and he's looking for "girls" who are over 21 !! Arty Trost Maxair Drifter Sandy, Oregon www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." --- On Mon, 4/27/09, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:50 PM > > > > > > > > > The wife wants > to know if she will be > the only girl > there? > > > > G Aman MK-3C > Jabiru 2200 > > > > > No, your wife will not be the only > girl there. In > addition to Arty, who is flying in, there will be other > girls there. > She'll most likely have plenty company. > > My assumption is based on the past > flyins. > > Looking forward to seeing you all > there. > > john h > mkIII > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:39:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    From: "dalewhelan" <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>
    my ballast is female -------- Dale Whelan 503 powered Firestar II Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241594#241594


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    Time: 09:19:19 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Note of appreciation
    From: "John Bickham" <gearbender@bellsouth.net>
    Dave and/or Jeff, Would you happen to have Steven Green's new e-mail address? The old one I have is not working. Guess he ain't a kolbdriver no more. I would appreciate it. I have had the priviledge of sharing some XC trips with Steven G and it was more fun than I deserve. We both love to hear each other talk funny. Do not archive. -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA Landing a plane and being married - a few smooth moments mixed with a lot of rough ones. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241599#241599


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    Time: 09:31:24 PM PST US
    From: Ron <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Note of appreciation
    That would be great. We sure will! Now I need to get out of the Arizona desert and head there. Which model are you building? ================================== ---- loseyf@comcast.net wrote: ============ Gents I would love to sit and chat with both of you as I am just starting the building process in Boca Raton. I would welcome joining for Lunch sometime..... Fran Losey ------Original Message------ From: Watkinsdw Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Apr 27, 2009 3:02 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Note of appreciation Hi, Ron, Welcome aboard. Let us know when you arrive. I'm sure we can learn from each other, and it will be great to have a sister ship to fly with. If you want to chat off-line, use david.watkins0@gmail.com. Dave and Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=241497#241497 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- kugelair.com


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    Time: 09:59:02 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Monument Valley
    har! those southern "boys" at it again. On 27, Apr 2009, at 10:49 PM, TheWanderingWench wrote: > <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> > > > Let's be careful with our wording. Your wife will not be the only > WOMAN there - there will be others of the female persuasion.:>) > > I mention this because of a funny thing that happened when I was at > Sun n Fun. I was talking to a float plane pilot (whom I have never > met, so he was just a voice on the phone.) He told me that if I met > any girls, to send them over to the Splash In and he'd give them a > free ride. > > I'm busy promoting the Penelope Pilot Project, which encourages > girls to spread their wings, hopefully through aviation but also in > any other way. So when an excited 8 year old girl came to see me > and my Drifter, I gave her parents the float pilot's invitation. > > You can guess the ending to this story. He called me that evening, > saying that he is a single guy and he's looking for "girls" who are > over 21 !! > > Arty Trost > Maxair Drifter > Sandy, Oregon > > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com > > > "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" > > Helen Keller > > > "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." > > > --- On Mon, 4/27/09, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: > >> From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> >> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 6:50 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The wife wants >> to know if she will be >> the only girl >> there? >> >> >> >> G Aman MK-3C >> Jabiru 2200 >> >> >> >> >> No, your wife will not be the only >> girl there. In >> addition to Arty, who is flying in, there will be other >> girls there. >> She'll most likely have plenty company. >> >> My assumption is based on the past >> flyins. >> >> Looking forward to seeing you all >> there. >> >> john h >> mkIII >> >> >> >> >> >> > >




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