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1. 01:23 PM - Advice on headsets (Watkinsdw)
2. 01:38 PM - Re: Advice on headsets (John Hauck)
3. 01:45 PM - Re: Advice on headsets (lucien)
4. 07:07 PM - Re: Advice on headsets (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
5. 07:41 PM - Re: Advice on headsets (Ralph B)
6. 07:51 PM - Re: Re: Advice on headsets (John Hauck)
7. 08:20 PM - Re: Advice on headsets (Larry Cottrell)
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Subject: | Advice on headsets |
Greetings from some new Kolbers,
We finally got a break in the wind at Pompano (KPMP), and flew our new MK3C this
Saturday. She flew like a (song)bird. I emphasize the "song" part, since she
really put our ANR headsets through their paces.
I have a pair of Bose X's and Jeff had a pair of Lightspeed 3G's. My Bose's helped,
but I had difficulty understanding the tower over the still considerable
level of noise after ANR filtered out the lethal levels. The 3G's periodically
generated a 'buzzing' that sounded like low frequency feedback. He could get
it to stop temporarily by cupping the earpieces with his hands.
Any have a recommendation for headsets designed for this high-noise environment?
I look forward to a spirited discussion on this issue...
Thanks,
Dave
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Subject: | Re: Advice on headsets |
> Any have a recommendation for headsets designed for this high-noise
environment?
> Dave
I use a DRE-6000 ANR headset. Just bought my second one from Aircraft
Spruce.
Works well in my 912ULS powered mkIII.
Aircraft Spruce and Specialty Co
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confirmation.
DRE has a power supply you can buy for about $30.00 to wire into the
aircraft battery. Will quickly pay for its self.
I have been flying with the DRE-6000 headsets for about 5 years. I am
nearly deaf. Had gotten to the point I could not understand what was being
transmitted on my radio. The DRE-6000 fixed that.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Advice on headsets |
Watkinsdw wrote:
> Greetings from some new Kolbers,
>
> We finally got a break in the wind at Pompano (KPMP), and flew our new MK3C this
Saturday. She flew like a (song)bird. I emphasize the "song" part, since she
really put our ANR headsets through their paces.
>
> I have a pair of Bose X's and Jeff had a pair of Lightspeed 3G's. My Bose's
helped, but I had difficulty understanding the tower over the still considerable
level of noise after ANR filtered out the lethal levels. The 3G's periodically
generated a 'buzzing' that sounded like low frequency feedback. He could get
it to stop temporarily by cupping the earpieces with his hands.
>
> Any have a recommendation for headsets designed for this high-noise environment?
>
> I look forward to a spirited discussion on this issue...
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
I use the Telex stratus 50-D. It's far and away better at noise reduction than
anything else I've ever used, because of the digital sampling nature of the ANR
(it's not analogue). The passive NR is pretty good too but there's no better
ANR on the market. I don't have to also use earplugs with it unlike my other
headsets.
It's expensive but a lot cheaper than a bunch of hearing loss ;).
The microphone is also very high quality, so the tower will have a lot easier time
hearing you with it too.
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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Subject: | Re: Advice on headsets |
Dave
I have a set of Segtronics head sets that I put a Headsets ANR unit in. It
works well but doesn't stop enough of my singing VW. Recently I added a Sony
ear bud head set like they hook to MP3 players. They say they cancel noise
(passive noise reduction) and they do some but paired (I ware them under the
headsets) with my Sigtronics they work great. They stop just enough extra
noise to be very comfortable but also have a very high quality speaker that
makes radio transmission very understandable without having to crank the
volume up. I also have a DRE intercom that helps by only opening the mike
that brakes the squelch.
I have flown with John H and had recently commented that his plane is very
quiet. I may have misspoken it may have been His DRE headsets.
It would seem that at least by the price that you would have the best
headset going. Also I hate to mention it but make sure your squelch is set
right. Kind of defeats the ANR when your intercom is boosting the noise your
headset is trying to filter.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 4:23 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Advice on headsets
>
> Greetings from some new Kolbers,
>
> We finally got a break in the wind at Pompano (KPMP), and flew our new
> MK3C this Saturday. She flew like a (song)bird. I emphasize the "song"
> part, since she really put our ANR headsets through their paces.
>
> I have a pair of Bose X's and Jeff had a pair of Lightspeed 3G's. My
> Bose's helped, but I had difficulty understanding the tower over the still
> considerable level of noise after ANR filtered out the lethal levels. The
> 3G's periodically generated a 'buzzing' that sounded like low frequency
> feedback. He could get it to stop temporarily by cupping the earpieces
> with his hands.
>
> Any have a recommendation for headsets designed for this high-noise
> environment?
>
> I look forward to a spirited discussion on this issue...
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=242527#242527
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Advice on headsets |
I have a pair of Lightspeed 20XL's. They are ok, but on takeoff, it's hard to talk
to your passenger with the noise. I've found a neat trick that makes them
quiet like the expensive sets: use foam earplugs with the headsets and turn the
volume up. Works great!
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
22 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
1 year flying it
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Subject: | Re: Advice on headsets |
> I have a pair of Lightspeed 20XL's. They are ok, but on takeoff, it's
hard to talk to your passenger with the noise. I've found a neat trick that
makes them quiet like the expensive sets: use foam earplugs with the
headsets and turn the volume up. Works great!
>
> Ralph
Unless you have already lost most of your hearing.
I couldn't wear ear plugs with a flight helmet when I was in flight school
in 1968. I just turned up the volume and I could hear good enough to get
the job done.
Now I am on the edge of my ability to hear well enough to understand the
spoken word with the ANR headset.
Next step will be to do a better job of keeping myself cleared visually,
transmit in the blind, which we do at uncontrolled airports most of the
time, and stay out of controlled air space when I must communicate.
Might present a problem flying cross country through Canada. Any airport
that has commercial traffic has a requirement to make radio communication.
Had a bad radio going into Kamloops, BC. FSS could not understand my
transmissions. Got my butt chewed out after I landed and was in the FBO.
Made it the rest of the way to Oshkosh and then Alabama with receive only.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: Advice on headsets |
It would seem that at least by the price that you would have the best
headset going. Also I hate to mention it but make sure your squelch is
set
right. Kind of defeats the ANR when your intercom is boosting the
noise your
headset is trying to filter.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
I copied a page from my instruction manual for my DRE headsets that
might be of interest to you and your David Clark set. The headsets are
directional and are generally set -up for tractor configuration. You
might try turning the headset around and put the mike on the other side
of your face.
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"Mic Boom Placement and adjustment"
Inside each ear cup are two microphones which are a critical part of
the ENR circuit. These microphones must always be oriented towards the
source of the noise ( Typically in the front in a single engine
aircraft) for proper operation of the ENR system. You cannot rotate a
left hand Mic Boom and turn it into a right hand Mic Boom as you would
with a standard headset.
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I scanned the whole thing but the file is 4.9 MB and I didn't want to
clog up everyone's computer with that kind of a file. For what its
worth, I assume that you can just turn the whole headset over putting
the mic on the right side and get much less noise. I tried my DRE both
ways and still was not happy with the system. I have much better luck
and the wife can understand a Sigtronics S45 headset with no ANR
capabilities
Larry C
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