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1. 02:38 AM - Re: Re: M3X pictures,numbers (pj.ladd)
2. 08:06 AM - Re: M3X pictures,numbers (lucien)
3. 01:42 PM - toe (robert bean)
4. 05:49 PM - Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (ces308)
5. 07:18 PM - Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (Richard Girard)
6. 07:28 PM - Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (Kirkds)
7. 08:15 PM - Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (ces308)
8. 08:24 PM - Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (ces308)
9. 08:33 PM - Re: Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (robert bean)
10. 08:51 PM - Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (lucien)
11. 09:06 PM - Re: Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
12. 09:07 PM - Re: Horiz. stab front attach brackets. (HShack@aol.com)
13. 09:29 PM - Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? (ces308)
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| Subject: | Re: M3X pictures,numbers |
You're describing as hazardous and useless a mode of flight that is neither
and has been employed successfully in fixed-wing aircraft for ages for
soft-field ops. >>
Sorry Lucien,
I don`t think I have ever said that.
What I DID say was that the take off technique you described was useful `"in
certain circumstances" and " less safe" than the usual method of take off.
If that were not so we would all use that technique all the time.
I think we have flogged this to within an inch of its life and probably
bored the rest of the list silly so I think we should agree to differ.
Whatever our views they have kept us both alive so each must have some
validity.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: M3X pictures,numbers |
pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com wrote:
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> Sorry Lucien,
> I don`t think I have ever said that.
>
> What I DID say was that the take off technique you described was useful `"in
> certain circumstances" and " less safe" than the usual method of take off.
>
>
"in certain circumstances" (soft-field ops) is right but "less safe than the usual
method" is _not_ right. That's been my point all along.
Again, some dual with an instructor on soft field t/o techniques, including ground
school on the effects of ground effect, etc., is really in order if you think
this is the case. Some rough field ops in your plane after that using the
correct technique would be a good demonstration of that as well.
LS
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Titan II SS
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I'm replacing my aluminum legs with kolb factory steel (MkIII)
I have them slipped in today and will do some drilling tomorrow.
Question is: with the
positive camber, anybody have a good guess as to how much, if any toe-
in I should dial in?
IMO they would be better of with close to zero camber unless of
course there is enough flex
with the landing force to get them close. With the normal flex on my
old aluminum legs (straight when unloaded)
there was some negative camber which helps with one wheel landings.
I had zero toe and it handled well.
BB
soon to be sitting taller in the saddle.
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| Subject: | Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
Help me here.....If I choose to Not to get my medical renewed....am I able to fly
that airplane with my drivers license legally?
chris ambrose
m3x/jab
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
Assuming you didn't add an in flight adjustable prop or declared a gross
weight of greater that 1320 lb. you'll be fine.
Rick
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 7:49 PM, ces308 <ces308@ldaco.com> wrote:
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> Help me here.....If I choose to Not to get my medical renewed....am I able
> to fly that airplane with my drivers license legally?
>
> chris ambrose
> m3x/jab
> N327CS
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
http://www.sportpilot.org/learn/final_rule_synopsis.html
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
Thank you Rick....That is what I thought too,but when the FAA guy finished inspected
the airplane last Wednesday we talked about that and he said I needed a
pilots license to fly it...??? He said it didn't fall in that category ...not
wanting to argue with the guy who was going to sign off my airplane ,I decided
to find out later,as maybe he was mistaken . I looked it up in the FAR's and
it looked like it fit that category to me too.
chris ambrose
m3x/jab
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
Does it have anything to do with the January,2008 thing??
chris
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
Sport Pilot is a pilot's license.
The dropped medical requirement applies to all categories, private,
commercial, (ok not airship and heli)
as a default rating equivalent to Sport Pilot.
They refer to it as a "privilege". As an example, my commercial heli
license notes that I have
private fixed wing privilege.
BB
back hurts tonight after rasslin' with that left gear leg. Gotter in
though.
On 16, May 2009, at 11:15 PM, ces308 wrote:
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> Thank you Rick....That is what I thought too,but when the FAA guy
> finished inspected the airplane last Wednesday we talked about
> that and he said I needed a pilots license to fly it...??? He said
> it didn't fall in that category ...not wanting to argue with the
> guy who was going to sign off my airplane ,I decided to find out
> later,as maybe he was mistaken . I looked it up in the FAR's and it
> looked like it fit that category to me too.
>
> chris ambrose
> m3x/jab
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244320#244320
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
ces308 wrote:
> Does it have anything to do with the January,2008 thing??
>
> chris
Jan 2008 was just when one of the ways you could get an ELSA a/w certificate expired
- the so called "grandfather" clause where you could get practically anything
that had never before held an a/w certificate into ELSA. This was to accomodate
the "fat-UL" planes.
This would include a Kolb built from a kit - ELSA was available for those also.
Now, that option is no longer available, ELSA is only available through the SLSA
first and then a bunch more crapola method, which is still fairly uncommon (tho
some of the imported trikes like the Airborne have this available now).
As for whether you can fly a plane under the sport pilot rule (i.e. if you're a
no medical private pilot like myself), the plane only has to fit within the LSA
parameters (speed, gross weight, etc). It doesn't matter what kind of a/w certificate
it has - it can be ELSA, SLSA, Experimental AB, Experimental Exhibition,
standard category or anything else legal. As long as the plane meets the
LSA limitations, you can fly it under the SP rule with a SP certificate or higher
(and a valid driver's license).
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
Chris
I assume you licensed your plane as a experimental amateur built.
I think what the guy from the FAA meant was that you need a pilots license
as apposed to no license needed for a ultralight. I also assume you have a
single engine land license or better and you are not going to do that 3rd
class medical thing any more.
With the conditions that other Rick mentioned your plane is in the light
sport category and with a regular pilot's license or light sport license you
can legally fly it with out that medical. I have a regular license and quit
taking my 3rd class medicals almost three years ago. I have since taken a
check ride and confirmed there was no problem. Also took the check ride in a
172, I just can't fly one as pilot in command without the medical.
Let us know what flyins you may be flying to this summer. If my runway ever
dries out I may try to meet you at one or more. There is a good one at Purdy
field over by Durand every year. I will likely also fly to Oshkosh this
summer.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:15 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport?
>
> Thank you Rick....That is what I thought too,but when the FAA guy finished
> inspected the airplane last Wednesday we talked about that and he said I
> needed a pilots license to fly it...??? He said it didn't fall in that
> category ...not wanting to argue with the guy who was going to sign off my
> airplane ,I decided to find out later,as maybe he was mistaken . I looked
> it up in the FAR's and it looked like it fit that category to me too.
>
> chris ambrose
> m3x/jab
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244320#244320
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Horiz. stab front attach brackets. |
Was looking at my friends MkIII boom tube today & discovered that those
horiz. stab brackets had been installed tight against the tabs on the front of
the stab[?]. I could see flexing of the brackets & tabs when the
elevator was operated. Been this way for about 9 yrs.; surprised nothing has
broken as of yet.
Question is, how to fix it? Do we need to make new brackets, using the
same rivet holes, with the bends to give the necessary clearance? What are
they made of, 4130? Would a slightly thicker stainless do?
Yeah, I'll be calling TNK on Monday. Just getting prepared.........
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
In a message dated 5/16/2009 11:34:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
slyck@frontiernet.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
Sport Pilot is a pilot's license.
The dropped medical requirement applies to all categories, private,
commercial, (ok not airship and heli)
as a default rating equivalent to Sport Pilot.
They refer to it as a "privilege". As an example, my commercial heli
license notes that I have
private fixed wing privilege.
BB
back hurts tonight after rasslin' with that left gear leg. Gotter in
though.
On 16, May 2009, at 11:15 PM, ces308 wrote:
> --> Kolb-List message posted by: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
>
> Thank you Rick....That is what I thought too,but when the FAA guy
> finished inspected the airplane last Wednesday we talked about
> that and he said I needed a pilots license to fly it...??? He said
> it didn't fall in that category ...not wanting to argue with the
> guy who was going to sign off my airplane ,I decided to find out
> later,as maybe he was mistaken . I looked it up in the FAR's and it
> looked like it fit that category to me too.
>
> chris ambrose
> m3x/jab
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=244320#244320
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Is a Mark 3 Xtra considered Light Sport? |
Thank you all ! For awhile there I thought I was going crazy (though my wife will
confirm that ) !
Rick,let me know where you will be going and if I can make it at all,I will be
there.I will look up the Purdy one.I will be at the Lake City flyin next Sunday...
One more thing...is any of the hours clock of taxiing before it was inspected count
on the 40 hrs?
chris ambrose
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