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1. 03:42 AM - older firestar (Ted Cowan)
2. 05:38 AM - Re: older firestar (Mike Welch)
3. 08:43 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (b young)
4. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: Monument Valley (loseyf@comcast.net)
5. 10:42 AM - Final at Monument Valley (dalewhelan)
6. 06:44 PM - Bing Carb Problem FYI (Jim Kmet)
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I am again going to chime in and mention something about SS rivets. If this
is an older Firestar, five rib, etc., you have better check the size and
thickness of the tubing. The older firestars had really thin tubing on the
leading and trailing edges. Now, it is my opinion (my opinion AND
experience) that if you are the first one to drill the holes, they are nice
and tight and MIGHT hold a SS rivet but you will really suffer if you have
to repair damage or recover later. If it is a repair job, the holes have
been reamed out by drilling or possibly someone used an oversized drill
(this was recommended way back when) to facilitate rivet installation, your
SS rivets might crack the holes, pull through or not even pop when
installed. (you are going to hate yourself in the morning). If you are
going to keep the bird in a hanger or trailer or whatever, the rivets are
going to only get minimal exposure to moister. Some of the builders put
anti rust stuff on the rivets before covering (if they were flying over
water) and I think that might be a good idea. Again, if you pull SS rivets
on these lightweight tubes, you are looking and are going to find trouble.
A bunch of you who have not rebuild a dozen of these crafts in the last ten
or twelve years, are going to resist or say bull s____t but, I am telling
you, dislike materials dont like each other to begin with, i.e., steel (SS)
rivets vs very thin alum.and you know what, alum usually looses. My
opinion. By the way, these suggestions were passed on to me by Dennis S.
back when I was a nubie at this. I have never had one come apart. Up to
you. Hope you have a great time. By the way, eliminating the silver
undercoat UV protectant-filler, you can save a ton of money and weight and
use the UV protection you add to the poly tone paint. Call Dolly and she
can explain it to you. Works for me. Lots of ways to save money and weight
for the ole five ribber. Have a great weekend. Thanks for the pics of MV.
Gotta do that some day. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot, 912, zoom zoom.
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>Call Dolly and she
> can explain it to you. Works for me. Lots of ways to save money and weigh
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> for the ole five ribber. Have a great weekend. Thanks for the pics of MV.
> Gotta do that some day. Ted Cowan=2C Alabama=2C Slingshot=2C 912=2C zoom
zoom.
Ted=2C
No argumment with your rivet experience or beliefs=2C but respectfully=2C
the lovely lady's name is Dondi=2C not Dolly. Unless=2C of course=2C we w
ere talking about Parton. She's lovely=2C too.
To clear matters up=2C were you making the point that we should use alumi
num rivets=2C instead of SS rivets? I recently bought a huge supply of SS
rivets=2C specifically for attaching my ailerons and flaps. Is it your opi
nion that a guy should just use aluminum ones?
Mike Welch
MkIII
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Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
Is there a date for 2010 yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Every year it has been the weekend after mothers day.
Boyd Young
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Subject: | Re: Monument Valley |
Thank you Sir. Looks like a great place, I have vacationed on Lake Powell, Bryce
and Zion....truly one of God's gifts!
Thanks
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From: b young
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Sent: May 23, 2009 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Monument Valley
Is there a date for 2010 yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Every year it has been the weekend after mothers day.
Boyd Young
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Subject: | Final at Monument Valley |
Shot by my ballast in a Firestar II May 2009
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Bing Carb Problem FYI |
Hi All,
For what its worth, I though I`d share a recent problem & solution with
a Bing carb I had this week. It all started last Sat, when after a short
flight in my MK3C 912 bird, one of my bing 64 carbs started leaking
after engine shutdown. It quit after a minute or so, but not after
scaring the bejeebers out of me, cuz the fuel was boiling off of a hot
exhaust pipe!
Once it quit, & cooled down for a few miute, I thought, I`d better be
sure where it was coming from. I turned on the electric fuel pump & the
carb bowl instantly was wet & dripping again.
Since it was hot outside, & in the hangar, & the engine was still hot, I
left the airport ticked off, thinking I`d research the possible problems
& check out solutions.
Not knowing that much about bing 64s, I asked a few of my fellow Kolb
drivers their opinions, and, once I learned more, Agreed that it must be
a sticking float needle & or float bowl gasket.
Didn`t get to get back to it until Tuesday, & had a helper flip on the
fuel pump again & after repeated checks, found that it was the Brass
fitting that the fuel line attached to! This wasn`t a threaded in
fitting like on the new carbs, but a "pressed in fitting" (Pressed in
according to the folks at BING in Kansas)
LOOOONg story short, (I know, too late, its already long), the folks at
Bing, L. E. A. F. & Lockwood, have never seen this before & each had a
different recommendation. The bottom line was this, that fitting was not
just pressed in, but was inserted with an "O"-ring. The O-ring was
letting fuel pass by. Once I got the fitting out, found that it was a
Nickel fix, re-inserted it a new o-ring with some green Locktite ( LEAF
Recommended), I enjoyed a 15 minute check flight yesterday, & 1.2 hours
today.
I also bought the fuel drip pan kit from CPS & will install it shortly .
Some of you may have already known of this O-ring deal before, but
Since Bing & LEAF & Lockwood didn`t, I thought I `d pass it along.The
folks with thread-in fittings have an advantage, cuz the seal will be
easier to replace.
Jim Kmet
Cookeville TN
MK-3C 912
MK-3C 582
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