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1. 03:42 AM - Re: Bing Carb Problem FYI (Thom Riddle)
2. 07:10 AM - Heading Home (Larry Cottrell)
3. 07:38 AM - Re: Heading Home (loseyf@comcast.net)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: Bing Carb Problem FYI (b young)
5. 07:47 AM - Re: Bing Carb Problem FYI (b young)
6. 08:11 AM - ()
7. 08:51 AM - empty nest syndrome. (Larry Cottrell)
8. 08:57 AM - Re: Bing Carb Problem FYI (lucien)
9. 10:15 AM - Needed a Kolb Ultralight (Ron)
10. 11:13 AM - Re: Needed a Kolb Ultralight (Gary Thacker)
11. 11:13 AM - Re: Needed a Kolb Ultralight (Gary Thacker)
12. 12:22 PM - Re: empty nest syndrome. (jvanlaak@aol.com)
13. 03:20 PM - Re: Heading Home (pj.ladd)
14. 03:20 PM - Aluminum Fuel Tank for MIII (mark rinehart)
15. 04:16 PM - Re: Aluminum Fuel Tank for MIII (Richard Girard)
16. 05:07 PM - Re: Aluminum Fuel Tank for MIII (Ron)
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| Subject: | Re: Bing Carb Problem FYI |
Glad to help.
On a related subject, according to this material compatibility chart, the Viton
tips on the float valves in Bing 64 carbs on 912 engines is rated only Marginal
for Ethyl Alcohol. So those of us flying with 912 engines should keep close
eye on these valves if we are running ethanol laced autogas.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
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Morning Gang:
In a few minutes I will begin my 1,884 sm journey back to Alabama from
the Rock House. If I average 75 mph it will require 25 hours flight
time. With the help of a good tail wind and fair weather, I can get
home in 3 days. Or, it could be like last year and take 5 days.
Today I remember my friend John Williamson. It is the first anniversary
of his crash at the Skinner Ranch.
John B departed for Burley, ID, about an hour ago. He wanted to land in
Idaho for the first time. We hope to marry up in Brigham City, UT.
Bruce C spent the night in Goodland, KS, last night. Same place I RON'd
last year. Good folks there, as were in Laramie, WY.
Take care,
john h
mkIII
Rock House, OR
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| Subject: | Re: Heading Home |
Safe Journey Sir.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-----Original Message-----
From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Heading Home
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| Subject: | Bing Carb Problem FYI |
Boy I hope it`s compatable with gas, now you`ve prompted me to do some more
research on the other ones in this o-ring stash that it came from.I got it
out by having a helper securly hold the carb on a work bench, & I put a
short pc of fuel line over the nipple to cushion & protect it. Then held it
just below the flare with a unique pair of pliers that when clamped, held
close to the same diameter as the pipe nipple, & tapped the Pliers with the
hammer, away from the carb body, & after a few Raps, it popped out.
now on to research to make sure I put a gas compatable o-ring on it. If not,
I gotta do it again, thanks for the heads up on the o-rings.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
If you put it together with green locktite,,,, it will probably never come
out or leak. I was told when I had to remove a part that was factory
installed,, or supposedly put in with green locktite,, that you had to
heat the part to 300 to 400 deg to get it out. The green locktite may
hold it with or without an oring.
Boyd Young
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| Subject: | Bing Carb Problem FYI |
Boy I hope it`s compatable with gas, now you`ve prompted me to do some more
research on the other ones in this o-ring stash that it came from.I got it
out by having a helper securly hold the carb on a work bench, & I put a
short pc of fuel line over the nipple to cushion & protect it. Then held it
just below the flare with a unique pair of pliers that when clamped, held
close to the same diameter as the pipe nipple, & tapped the Pliers with the
hammer, away from the carb body, & after a few Raps, it popped out.
now on to research to make sure I put a gas compatable o-ring on it. If not,
I gotta do it again, thanks for the heads up on the o-rings.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
If you put it together with green locktite,,,, it will probably never come
out or leak. I was told when I had to remove a part that was factory
installed,, or supposedly put in with green locktite,, that you had to
heat the part to 300 to 400 deg to get it out. The green locktite may
hold it with or without an oring.
Boyd Young
Just read the post about the o ring being compatible. good on you.
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| Subject: | empty nest syndrome. |
Every one has now gone on their way back home and the wife and I now
have to cope with the quiet of a house once full of celebration and
happy chatter and yes, a bit of bull as well. Every one that was here
was a real character, and a pleasure to be around. With eight people all
sharing one bathroom and a table too small for such a large group, it
went surprisingly well. Every one chipped in doing their share and more
if one did not watch them closely. It was a great time for us and the
highlight of our spring, and we are grateful that they chose to share
that time with us.
We made a trip to visit John Williamson and reflect on his visits and
how much all of us miss him and his cheerful personality.
Take care of yourselves,
Larry Cottrell
Rock House, Jordan Valley, Or.
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| Subject: | Re: Bing Carb Problem FYI |
Thom Riddle wrote:
> Glad to help.
>
> On a related subject, according to this material compatibility chart, the Viton
tips on the float valves in Bing 64 carbs on 912 engines is rated only Marginal
for Ethyl Alcohol. So those of us flying with 912 engines should keep close
eye on these valves if we are running ethanol laced autogas.
great.... and here I was thinking Rotax approved 10% with no restrictions including
the carburettors.
I'd take that to mean the carburettor parts should still last their normal lifetimes,
but we can't let the maintenance slip as long as before ;).
FWIW, I'm on my 3rd tank (maybe 4th) of 10% premium with no running problems or
problems with the fuel system. So far no vapour lock or even so much as a burp
even up to about 9000'. I guess it'll be years from now before I could find
out about any corrosion problems or shortened lifetimes of carburettor rubbers.
Time to order my carburettor overhaul kits anyway....
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Needed a Kolb Ultralight |
Folks:
If anyone knows of a Kolb Ultrlight for sale, somewhere in the S.W. let me know.
I just run into a fellow that needs an Ultrlight in running condition for a
some survey project.
My own project is slow coming along even though progress is being made, but its
not going to be ready in time.
Reply ASAP
Thanks
Ron @ KFHU
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| Subject: | Needed a Kolb Ultralight |
Gary
Souderton=2CPa.
No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
Thomas Jefferson
> Date: Mon=2C 25 May 2009 13:11:27 -0400
> From: captainron1@cox.net
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Needed a Kolb Ultralight
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> Folks:
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> If anyone knows of a Kolb Ultrlight for sale=2C somewhere in the S.W. let
me know. I just run into a fellow that needs an Ultrlight in running condi
tion for a some survey project.
> My own project is slow coming along even though progress is being made=2C
but its not going to be ready in time.
>
> Reply ASAP
>
> Thanks
> Ron @ KFHU
>
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| Subject: | Needed a Kolb Ultralight |
ron
I am considering selling my Firestar II. It has about 50 hours on it. Jus
t a tad less. I live in Pa though.
Gary
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> Date: Mon=2C 25 May 2009 13:11:27 -0400
> From: captainron1@cox.net
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kolb-List: Needed a Kolb Ultralight
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> Folks:
>
> If anyone knows of a Kolb Ultrlight for sale=2C somewhere in the S.W. let
me know. I just run into a fellow that needs an Ultrlight in running condi
tion for a some survey project.
> My own project is slow coming along even though progress is being made=2C
but its not going to be ready in time.
>
> Reply ASAP
>
> Thanks
> Ron @ KFHU
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| Subject: | Re: empty nest syndrome. |
I am one of those people who read the Kolb list every day but rarely contribute
anything.? It is not for lack of understanding Kolb fun - I built one of the
first Firestars in the late 80's - but lack of participation.? I sold the Firestar
15 years ago to get a 2 place something or other and all I have to fly right
now is a Comanche, but?I look forward to?buying a Mark III Extra sometime
soon.? It will have to be a completed and flying one because I work in a town
200 miles from my home and building would take decades, but I am more a flyer
than a builder anyway......
What brings me to write today is to say that even though I am a "lurker" rather
than a contributor, I am struck by the warmth and fellowship shared by so many
here.? So many groups on the internet are always competing with one another,
sniping, flaming, and so on.? But you all chew the fat as if you?grew up together?and
you make me?feel like a??distant member of this fun family.? Larry's
note is only one example,?but a fine one that exemplifies the best about your
group.
Perhaps we?will meet someday at a flyin, but even if we never do, thank you for
making me feel welcome.
Jim Van Laak
Poquoson, VA
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
Sent: Mon, 25 May 2009 11:43 am
Subject: Kolb-List: empty nest syndrome.
Every one has now gone on their way back home and the wife and I now have to cope
with the quiet of a house once full of celebration and happy chatter and yes,
a bit of bull as well. Every one that was here was a real character, and a
pleasure to be around. With eight people all sharing one bathroom and a table
too small for such a large group, it went surprisingly well. Every one chipped
in doing their?share and more if one did not watch them closely. It was a great
time for us and the highlight of our spring, and we are grateful that they
chose to share that time with us.
?
We made a trip to visit John Williamson and reflect on his visits and how much
all of us miss him and his cheerful personality.
?
?
?
?
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Take care of yourselves,
Larry Cottrell
Rock House, Jordan Valley, Or.
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| Subject: | Re: Heading Home |
In a few minutes I will begin my 1,884 sm journey back to Alabama >>
Fair winds.
Pat
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| Subject: | Aluminum Fuel Tank for MIII |
I had a 20 gal aluminum tank made for my MIII project. For those of you who have
done something similar, how did you support it? I'm planning on riveting an
.063 thick aluminum pan to the steel cage tabs (the same tabs that would have
been used for the two 5-gal jug pan) and strapping the tank to it. The pan dimensions
are 36" x 14". Should I go thicker on the aluminum? Do I need to weld
more supports to the cage? 20 gal is a lot of weight and I want to be sure
it's properly supported. Thanks.
Mark Rinehart
Indy Kolb MIII
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Tank for MIII |
Ultimately the tank is supported by the frame tubes that the plate is
mounted on. Why not eliminate the middleman and have some tabs welded to the
tank that align with the tabs on the frame and bolt the new tank in. Just a
thought.
Rick
do not archive
On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 5:20 PM, mark rinehart <capt_riney@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> I had a 20 gal aluminum tank made for my MIII project. For those of you who
> have done something similar, how did you support it? I'm planning on
> riveting an .063 thick aluminum pan to the steel cage tabs (the same tabs
> that would have been used for the two 5-gal jug pan) and strapping the tank
> to it. The pan dimensions are 36" x 14". Should I go thicker on the
> aluminum? Do I need to weld more supports to the cage? 20 gal is a lot of
> weight and I want to be sure it's properly supported. Thanks.
>
> Mark Rinehart
> Indy Kolb MIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aluminum Fuel Tank for MIII |
I also had custom tanks made, mine are kidney type and they go on the bottom straddling
the tail boom. In fact I just recently finished welding lateral brackets
to support the tanks. If you can post a photo of your tanks so I know where
they go, maybe I can offer some ideas from what I have done.
Ron @ KFHU
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---- mark rinehart <capt_riney@yahoo.com> wrote:
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I had a 20 gal aluminum tank made for my MIII project. For those of you who have
done something similar, how did you support it? I'm planning on riveting an
.063 thick aluminum pan to the steel cage tabs (the same tabs that would have
been used for the two 5-gal jug pan) and strapping the tank to it. The pan dimensions
are 36" x 14". Should I go thicker on the aluminum? Do I need to weld
more supports to the cage? 20 gal is a lot of weight and I want to be sure
it's properly supported. Thanks.
Mark Rinehart
Indy Kolb MIII
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