---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 05/29/09: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:53 AM - Re: MV () 2. 06:35 AM - Flat tires... (Bob Green) 3. 06:42 AM - Web Site Address Change (Jack B. Hart) 4. 09:43 AM - Re: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. (russ kinne) 5. 09:44 AM - Re: Flat tires... (russ kinne) 6. 10:55 AM - John B back from Great Adventure Thursday! (John Bickham) 7. 01:20 PM - Re: John B back from Great Adventure Thursday! (JetPilot) 8. 02:20 PM - WRT M3X prop boom measurements. (Ron) 9. 02:36 PM - Re: WRT M3X prop boom measurements. (Mike Welch) 10. 03:00 PM - Re: WRT M3X prop boom measurements. (John Hauck) 11. 04:04 PM - Re: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. (Dave Kulp) 12. 04:09 PM - Re: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. (Robert Laird) 13. 04:18 PM - Re: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. (robert bean) 14. 04:49 PM - Re: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. (russ kinne) 15. 07:51 PM - Re: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. (chris davis) 16. 09:55 PM - Re: WRT M3X prop boom measurements. (Ron) 17. 10:03 PM - Re: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. (Tony Oldman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:46 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV ---- > Did someone else have a flat. > > Rick Neilsen Far as I know Bruce C was the only one to have a flat. I had two last time I flew to Alaska. Got to thinking about that and the remote areas we would be flying on the MV/Oregon flight. Decided on some insurance through Slime. Got the insurance and more, out of balance tires. Last year on the way out of MV, John W had a flat. He used a can of tire stuff to get going. We landed at Richfield, UT for lunch. Stopped by Walmart and each of us got another can for emergency use. Got a can in the airplane now. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:35:51 AM PST US From: Bob Green Subject: Kolb-List: Flat tires... I am building a Kolb MK III Extra, but have also flown many hours in Centra l America as a missionary pilot. A policy that I have is to never patch an airplane tire tube if at all poss ible to replace it. I carrying a repair kit in the emergency tool kit in t he plane and of course in a remote area there was no way to replace the tub e. There is a lot riding on the tube. A patch can cause severe damage o n landing if it did not "take". Just a thought. N830PB ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:40 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Kolb-List: Web Site Address Change Kolbers, Time marches on, and things change in the Web World. In the near future and due to circumstances beyond my control, the original http://www.thirdshift.com/jack/firefly/firefly.html site will be closed down. Everything that has been moved to: http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly.html I know there will be broken links out there, so please accept my apologies. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:36 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. Many thanx for sharing those great photos. But PLEASE don't tell us you shot them from your Kolb! On May 28, 2009, at 11:07 PM, Dave Kulp wrote: > Flying Folks, > > Attached are a group of photos from the Memorial Day Air Show at > Jones Beach, NY. Because we love flying and flying machines, > you'll love these, for sure. For those unfamiliar with NYC, > pictures #3 and #11 are over the southern tip of Manhattan, where > the twin towers used to be. > Enjoy - they're great pictures!!! > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FF > 11DMK e0055.jpg> > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:32 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flat tires... FWIW I always carried a spare TUBE in my 170. Didn't weigh much. Also didn't like the idea of a patch, and many airports didn't (& maybe still don't) have 8 x 6 tubes. Tailwheel is not all that necessary, so didn't carry a spare tube for that. On May 29, 2009, at 9:29 AM, Bob Green wrote: > I am building a Kolb MK III Extra, but have also flown many hours > in Central America as a missionary pilot. > A policy that I have is to never patch an airplane tire tube if at > all possible to replace it. I carrying a repair kit in the > emergency tool kit in the plane and of course in a remote area > there was no way to replace the tube. There is a lot riding on > the tube. A patch can cause severe damage on landing if it did > not =93take=94. > Just a thought. > N830PB > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:55:19 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: John B back from Great Adventure Thursday! From: "John Bickham" I think I let everyone know that I made it home, but just in case.... Made it home after 16 great days. Landed Nauga Field about 3:30 pm on Thursday. We would have been home sooner but John H and I waited for more favorable weather. We tucked in behind a front and followed it all the way. John H caught up to it in Missouri and should be getting home this afternoon. I had tailwinds all the way! Can't put into words how much fun I had and the great folks I had the pleasure of spending time with. Too many to thank right now and I don't want to insult anyone by leaving them out. Trip Stats: Total Trip Miles = 4569 sm Moving average speed = 79.5 mph Total average speed = 76.8 mph Fuel used = 258.5 gallons Avg Fuel burn = 4.24 GPH Total Tach time = 61.0 hours Lowest price for 100LL was at SWI @ $2.75 Highest price for 100LL was at GUP @ $4.45 Just a few things I learned: 1) You can read, talk, and type about flying at altitude, but until you've nursed a plane off a high, hot runway, you haven't got a clue! 2) The extra 20 hp of the 912S is a great advantage flying at the high altitudes and it shows up quickly in these conditions. I have the 912UL (80hp). 3) I thought I had prepared myself for high wind conditions prior to the flight. What I did was good but not enough. Need to add tailwind landings to the prep list. Waiting on light winds would leave you stranded for months out west. 4) Winds in some places out west change speed and/or direction in an instant. You have to be on your toes when close to the ground. 5) There are almost unlimited places of natural beauty and wonderful people spread out across this great nation. Take ten lifetimes to see and meet them all. 6) Larry C needs a new "calibrated" wind meter! [Wink] 7) I had more fun than I deserve! I've got chores to catch up on having been gone so long. I have a few good pics (nothing of the quality of Mike M's). When I get time, I'll figure out a way to share those for those that are interested. I'm want to look at putting them on Google Maps along our route. That would put them in sequence and at the proper location. I'll let you know. Stay tuned! -------- Thanks too much, John Bickham Mark III-C w/ 912UL St. Francisville, LA I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that I have the greatest respect for. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245925#245925 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:20:43 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: John B back from Great Adventure Thursday! From: "JetPilot" I really enjoyed reading your Blog John, even though it was short the pictures were great and I checked your progress every day. A trip like that looks like more fun than any super expensive vacation that anyone could ever take. I hope to do the same one day ! Thanks for posting and letting us share in your adventure. Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=245950#245950 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:36 PM PST US From: Ron Subject: Kolb-List: WRT M3X prop boom measurements. Folks I started the mating of the Suzuki motor to the Mounts. I need some measurements as to prop clearances and measured distance from the Boom the the center of the prop hub. I can't see where some of you reported where you had a 72 inch prop. I see where I can install a 70 inch prop on my mount but then clearance will be down to about an inch. These are preliminary measurements for my airframe. Anyway I need to figure out what's what WRT that. Thanks Ron @ KFHU ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:55 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: WRT M3X prop boom measurements. Ron=2C I have a turbocharged Suzuki G1.0. & a 68" inflight electric adjust IvoPr op. My measurements are: from tip of prop to boom tube=2C I have close to 2 3/4" clearance. Of course=2C you have a different redrive than I do=2C but it sounds like your prop position is very close to mine. Mike Welch MkIII > Folks I started the mating of the Suzuki motor to the Mounts. I need some measurements as to prop clearances and measured distance from the Boom the the center of the prop hub. I can't see where some of you reported where y ou had a 72 inch prop. I see where I can install a 70 inch prop on my mount but then clearance will be down to about an inch. These are preliminary me asurements for my airframe. > Anyway I need to figure out what's what WRT that. > > Thanks > Ron @ KFHU _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutor ial_Mobile1_052009 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:00:36 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: WRT M3X prop boom measurements. > Folks I started the mating of the Suzuki motor to the Mounts. I need some measurements as to prop clearances and measured distance from the Boom the the center of the prop hub. I can't see where some of you reported where you had a 72 inch prop. I see where I can install a 70 inch prop on my mount but then clearance will be down to about an inch. These are preliminary measurements for my airframe. > Anyway I need to figure out what's what WRT that. > > Thanks > Ron @ KFHU I've flown with 70,71, and 72" props on my mkIII. Clearances ranged from the "book" 1.5" to as little as .75". Currently have 1.25" with my new 71" blades. The lower the line of thrust the more efficient the system will be. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:36 PM PST US From: Dave Kulp Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. Looks like the attachment didn't arrive with the post. The pics are really great, but I don't want to send them in the body of the post in consideration of those who still have dial up. If someone can tell me how to get them here as an attachment I'll re-send them. Dave Kulp ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. From: Robert Laird They came across fine as attachments for me. On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Dave Kulp wrote: > > Looks like the attachment didn't arrive with the post. The pics are really > great, but I don't want to send them in the body of the post in > consideration of those who still have dial up. If someone can tell me how > to get them here as an attachment I'll re-send them. > > Dave Kulp > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:18:23 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. Dave, the original came through here. BB On 29, May 2009, at 6:58 PM, Dave Kulp wrote: > > Looks like the attachment didn't arrive with the post. The pics > are really great, but I don't want to send them in the body of the > post in consideration of those who still have dial up. If someone > can tell me how to get them here as an attachment I'll re-send them. > > Dave Kulp > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:26 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. FWIW I got them in the body of the message, and as attachments. Both came thru fine. On a Mac. On May 29, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Dave Kulp wrote: > > Looks like the attachment didn't arrive with the post. The pics > are really great, but I don't want to send them in the body of the > post in consideration of those who still have dial up. If someone > can tell me how to get them here as an attachment I'll re-send them. > > Dave Kulp > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:26 PM PST US From: chris davis Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. I got them too , thank you .Chris=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________ _____=0AFrom: robert bean =0ATo: kolb-list@matronics .com=0ASent: Friday, May 29, 2009 7:15:43 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Noth ing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly the >=0A=0ADave, the original came through here.=0ABB=0A=0AOn 29, May 2009, at =0A> =0A> Looks like the attachment didn't arrive with t he post.- The pics are really great, but I don't want to send them in the body of the post in consideration of those who still have dial up.- If s omeone can tell me how to get them here as an attachment I'll re-send them. ====0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:55:11 PM PST US From: Ron Subject: RE: Kolb-List: WRT M3X prop boom measurements. Okay thanks, I guess and also based on what John H. said that the Suzuki motor crank is stationed lower on the mounts than the Rotax. I would like at one point to have the SPG-2 turned down and have a 5 or 6 blade prop on it. this will place the center of thrust just about equal with the trailing edge of the wings. However for the moment and with the budget I got I'll keep it as is. A friend of mine was looking at it today for the first time and she said "it has such a big motor on it"..... :-) I guess the DOHC 1.3 is kinda large looking on the frame. ---- Mike Welch wrote: ============ Ron, I have a turbocharged Suzuki G1.0. & a 68" inflight electric adjust IvoProp. My measurements are: from tip of prop to boom tube, I have close to 2 3/4" clearance. Of course, you have a different redrive than I do, but it sounds like your prop position is very close to mine. Mike Welch MkIII > Folks I started the mating of the Suzuki motor to the Mounts. I need some measurements as to prop clearances and measured distance from the Boom the the center of the prop hub. I can't see where some of you reported where you had a 72 inch prop. I see where I can install a 70 inch prop on my mount but then clearance will be down to about an inch. These are preliminary measurements for my airframe. > Anyway I need to figure out what's what WRT that. > > Thanks > Ron @ KFHU _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:33 PM PST US From: "Tony Oldman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. Attachments and photos arrived in NewZealand by broadband no problems. Great photos thanks very much for sharing them. Tony Downunder MK111c 503 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Kulp" Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Nothing whatever to do with Kolbs, but a lot to do with those of us who fly them. > Flying Folks, > > Attached are a group of photos from the Memorial Day Air Show at Jones > Beach, NY. Because we love flying and flying machines, you'll love > these, for sure. For those unfamiliar with NYC, pictures #3 and #11 are > over the southern tip of Manhattan, where the twin towers used to be. > > Enjoy - they're great pictures!!! > > Dave Kulp > Bethlehem, PA > FF 11DMK > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.