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1. 06:12 AM - Flat tire {none event?} (frank.goodnight)
2. 07:23 AM - Re: Flat tire {none event?} (John Hauck)
3. 10:16 AM - Re: Flat tire {none event?} (Dana Hague)
4. 01:44 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/11/09 (barry youngblood)
5. 02:22 PM - Re: Flat tire {none event?} (possums)
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| Subject: | Flat tire {none event?} |
A couple of weeks ago I was chugging along about an hour from the
airport and about 500 ft.
feeling really pleased with myself , thinking - what a great day. then
I happened to look at
my left tire. It looked strange, in the firestar I can touch the tires
if I relax the sholder straps a
little.when i felt of it -PANIC- low time pilot, andnot much of it in
a kolb. WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN? An hour and a half latter when I HAD to
land , I did the very best full stall , tail wheel
first landing that I was capable of, there was NO difference from a
normal landing untill I
slowed to just above walking speed. Then the A/C just stopped moveing
no matter how
much power. I had to get out and pull it off the runway by hand. Can
some of you older pilots
tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way
to land a kolb with a flat?
Frank Goodnight
firestar 2
75 hrs
Brownsville TX.
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| Subject: | Re: Flat tire {none event?} |
Can
> some of you older pilots
> tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way to
> land a kolb with a flat?
>
> Frank Goodnight
Jim Swann is a lot older than me, and a FS pilot. ;-)
Never tried to land with a flat tire.
I think you did it one satisfactory way. You made it down and did not bend
the airplane.
I have landed my Ultrastar with one main gear involuntarily retracted. Got
a wing tip, but that is the nature of the US. Landed my buddy's US after a
3/16 bolt sheared on one end of the main gear braces. Got his wing tip too.
;-(
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Flat tire {none event?} |
At 09:01 AM 6/12/2009, frank.goodnight wrote:
>...the A/C just stopped moveing
>no matter how
>much power. I had to get out and pull it off the runway by hand. Can
>some of you older pilots
>tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way
>to land a kolb with a flat?
I don't know if my tire was flat the other day when I landed; I realized it
was flat when it took a LOT of power to taxi after landing!
That was the call to put a tube in the tire; I had been procrastinating.
-Dana
--
The most useful tool for dealing with management types is, of course, an
automatic weapon.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/11/09 |
Dear Connie,
This was TOO CUTE! I too would like to find that quiet house for a nap!
Thanks for sending me these good emails. I also enjoyed the tampon story.
Brenda
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> 1. 05:08 PM - Camp With Your Airplane (John Hauck)
> 2. 07:02 PM - Re: Camp With Your Airplane (Kirkds)
> 3. 07:51 PM - Re: Camp With Your Airplane (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
> 4. 11:13 PM - Re: Camp With Your Airplane (ces308)
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> Time: 05:08:44 PM PST US
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Subject: Kolb-List: Camp With Your Airplane
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>
> It took 25 or more years, but this year EAA says I can camp with my
> airplane
> near the Red Barn in the UL area.
>
> Not sure I understand exactly what they are authorizing, but maybe some of
> you can decipher their message:
>
> http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090608_ultralights.html
>
> For years they stuck those that flew into the UL area at OSH over on the
> other side of the airstrip so that spectators could not easily look at
> their
> airplanes.
>
> Wonder if they will let us taxi our aircraft to tie down, or make us push
> them half way across Whitman Field?
>
> Don't know whether I will make the flight to OSH this year or not. Will
> have to wait and see when the time comes.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
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> Time: 07:02:59 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Camp With Your Airplane
> From: "Kirkds" <kirkds@dishmail.net>
>
>
> I ain't gotta worry bout camping at Oshcash can't afford that place. But
> if anybody
> is headed there , coming through my neck of the woods , and need a place
> to RON , your welcome to camp here.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247764#247764
>
>
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> Time: 07:51:36 PM PST US
> From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" <NeilsenRM@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Camp With Your Airplane
>
>
> John
>
> At this point I'm planning to fly to Oshkosh for the week of AirVenture.
> I'm
> not sure what all that means but I'm not camping by the red barn. No way
> am
> I pushing my plane that far through all those people. I sent a E-Mail to
> Tommy thanking him for the Port O Let in our regular camping area and
> indicated that your friend Karla was going to make sure that the Port O
> Let
> would not be there this year. I hope it is there.
>
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:01 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Camp With Your Airplane
>
>
>>
>> It took 25 or more years, but this year EAA says I can camp with my
>> airplane near the Red Barn in the UL area.
>>
>> Not sure I understand exactly what they are authorizing, but maybe some
>> of
>> you can decipher their message:
>>
>> http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090608_ultralights.html
>>
>> For years they stuck those that flew into the UL area at OSH over on the
>> other side of the airstrip so that spectators could not easily look at
>> their airplanes.
>>
>> Wonder if they will let us taxi our aircraft to tie down, or make us push
>> them half way across Whitman Field?
>>
>> Don't know whether I will make the flight to OSH this year or not. Will
>> have to wait and see when the time comes.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> Time: 11:13:37 PM PST US
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Camp With Your Airplane
> From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
>
>
> I won't be flying over there either....however same deal...If you find
> yourself
> in the Houghton Lake area and need a place ,I'm in the Mi airport
> book...just
> call me.
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/Jab
> N327CS 22.0hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247777#247777
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flat tire {none event?} |
At 09:01 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote:
>slowed to just above walking speed. Then the A/C just stopped moveing
>no matter how
>much power. I had to get out and pull it off the runway by hand. Can
>some of you older pilots
>tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way
>to land a kolb with a flat?
>
>Frank Goodnight
I've landed with flats before. Not nearly as bad as you might think,
like having the brakes
on is all.
Taking off with a flat is a lot harder to do, but you can do it if
you have to, at least in a Firestar. If you've got nothing else, try
stuffing your shirt or
something in the flat tire to get off the ground. Of course if you
have a choice,
don't do it.
Landing without a tail wheel spring is not something you want to do.
It gets real
squirrely as soon as the tail wheel touches down.
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