---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 06/12/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:12 AM - Flat tire {none event?} (frank.goodnight) 2. 07:23 AM - Re: Flat tire {none event?} (John Hauck) 3. 10:16 AM - Re: Flat tire {none event?} (Dana Hague) 4. 01:44 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/11/09 (barry youngblood) 5. 02:22 PM - Re: Flat tire {none event?} (possums) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:12:20 AM PST US From: "frank.goodnight" Subject: Kolb-List: Flat tire {none event?} A couple of weeks ago I was chugging along about an hour from the airport and about 500 ft. feeling really pleased with myself , thinking - what a great day. then I happened to look at my left tire. It looked strange, in the firestar I can touch the tires if I relax the sholder straps a little.when i felt of it -PANIC- low time pilot, andnot much of it in a kolb. WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN? An hour and a half latter when I HAD to land , I did the very best full stall , tail wheel first landing that I was capable of, there was NO difference from a normal landing untill I slowed to just above walking speed. Then the A/C just stopped moveing no matter how much power. I had to get out and pull it off the runway by hand. Can some of you older pilots tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way to land a kolb with a flat? Frank Goodnight firestar 2 75 hrs Brownsville TX. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:23:44 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flat tire {none event?} Can > some of you older pilots > tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way to > land a kolb with a flat? > > Frank Goodnight Jim Swann is a lot older than me, and a FS pilot. ;-) Never tried to land with a flat tire. I think you did it one satisfactory way. You made it down and did not bend the airplane. I have landed my Ultrastar with one main gear involuntarily retracted. Got a wing tip, but that is the nature of the US. Landed my buddy's US after a 3/16 bolt sheared on one end of the main gear braces. Got his wing tip too. ;-( john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:16:12 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flat tire {none event?} At 09:01 AM 6/12/2009, frank.goodnight wrote: >...the A/C just stopped moveing >no matter how >much power. I had to get out and pull it off the runway by hand. Can >some of you older pilots >tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way >to land a kolb with a flat? I don't know if my tire was flat the other day when I landed; I realized it was flat when it took a LOT of power to taxi after landing! That was the call to put a tube in the tire; I had been procrastinating. -Dana -- The most useful tool for dealing with management types is, of course, an automatic weapon. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:56 PM PST US From: "barry youngblood" Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/11/09 Dear Connie, This was TOO CUTE! I too would like to find that quiet house for a nap! Thanks for sending me these good emails. I also enjoyed the tampon story. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:57 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 06/11/09 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-06-11&Archive=Kolb > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 09-06-11&Archive=Kolb > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kolb-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Thu 06/11/09: 4 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 05:08 PM - Camp With Your Airplane (John Hauck) > 2. 07:02 PM - Re: Camp With Your Airplane (Kirkds) > 3. 07:51 PM - Re: Camp With Your Airplane (Richard & Martha Neilsen) > 4. 11:13 PM - Re: Camp With Your Airplane (ces308) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:08:44 PM PST US > From: "John Hauck" > Subject: Kolb-List: Camp With Your Airplane > > > It took 25 or more years, but this year EAA says I can camp with my > airplane > near the Red Barn in the UL area. > > Not sure I understand exactly what they are authorizing, but maybe some of > you can decipher their message: > > http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090608_ultralights.html > > For years they stuck those that flew into the UL area at OSH over on the > other side of the airstrip so that spectators could not easily look at > their > airplanes. > > Wonder if they will let us taxi our aircraft to tie down, or make us push > them half way across Whitman Field? > > Don't know whether I will make the flight to OSH this year or not. Will > have to wait and see when the time comes. > > john h > mkIII > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:02:59 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Camp With Your Airplane > From: "Kirkds" > > > I ain't gotta worry bout camping at Oshcash can't afford that place. But > if anybody > is headed there , coming through my neck of the woods , and need a place > to RON , your welcome to camp here. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247764#247764 > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:51:36 PM PST US > From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Camp With Your Airplane > > > John > > At this point I'm planning to fly to Oshkosh for the week of AirVenture. > I'm > not sure what all that means but I'm not camping by the red barn. No way > am > I pushing my plane that far through all those people. I sent a E-Mail to > Tommy thanking him for the Port O Let in our regular camping area and > indicated that your friend Karla was going to make sure that the Port O > Let > would not be there this year. I hope it is there. > > Rick Neilsen > Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hauck" > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 8:01 PM > Subject: Kolb-List: Camp With Your Airplane > > >> >> It took 25 or more years, but this year EAA says I can camp with my >> airplane near the Red Barn in the UL area. >> >> Not sure I understand exactly what they are authorizing, but maybe some >> of >> you can decipher their message: >> >> http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090608_ultralights.html >> >> For years they stuck those that flew into the UL area at OSH over on the >> other side of the airstrip so that spectators could not easily look at >> their airplanes. >> >> Wonder if they will let us taxi our aircraft to tie down, or make us push >> them half way across Whitman Field? >> >> Don't know whether I will make the flight to OSH this year or not. Will >> have to wait and see when the time comes. >> >> john h >> mkIII >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:13:37 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Camp With Your Airplane > From: "ces308" > > > I won't be flying over there either....however same deal...If you find > yourself > in the Houghton Lake area and need a place ,I'm in the Mi airport > book...just > call me. > > chris ambrose > M3X/Jab > N327CS 22.0hrs > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=247777#247777 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:22:38 PM PST US From: possums Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flat tire {none event?} At 09:01 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote: >slowed to just above walking speed. Then the A/C just stopped moveing >no matter how >much power. I had to get out and pull it off the runway by hand. Can >some of you older pilots >tell me if this is normal , or was I just lucky? What is the best way >to land a kolb with a flat? > >Frank Goodnight I've landed with flats before. Not nearly as bad as you might think, like having the brakes on is all. Taking off with a flat is a lot harder to do, but you can do it if you have to, at least in a Firestar. If you've got nothing else, try stuffing your shirt or something in the flat tire to get off the ground. Of course if you have a choice, don't do it. Landing without a tail wheel spring is not something you want to do. 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