Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/14/09


Total Messages Posted: 30



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:24 AM - Re: Homer Kolb (icrashrc)
     2. 02:50 AM - Homer (Ted Cowan)
     3. 04:10 AM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb (Dennis Souder)
     4. 04:42 AM - Re: Fw: Spark plugs condition (william sullivan)
     5. 04:48 AM - Re: Kolb on Facebook (Kip)
     6. 04:50 AM - Re: Homer Kolb (william sullivan)
     7. 05:51 AM - Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (lucien)
     8. 08:00 AM - Re: Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (John Hauck)
     9. 08:16 AM - Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (lucien)
    10. 08:39 AM - Re: Re: Fw: Spark plugs condition (Ron @ KFHU)
    11. 08:43 AM - Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (Jack B. Hart)
    12. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (Ron @ KFHU)
    13. 08:54 AM - Re: Homer Kolb (marcuskolb)
    14. 09:11 AM - Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (Ron @ KFHU)
    15. 09:11 AM - Aircraft Site (Jack B. Hart)
    16. 09:12 AM - Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (lucien)
    17. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb (flycolt45@aol.com)
    18. 09:32 AM - Re: Homer Kolb (lucien)
    19. 09:33 AM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb (flycolt45@aol.com)
    20. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb (John Hauck)
    21. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb (pj.ladd)
    22. 01:13 PM - Re: Another alternative engine (Jason Omelchuck)
    23. 01:23 PM - Re: Homer Kolb (Dave Kulp)
    24. 01:46 PM - Fw: Homer's Obituary - please pass along as you wish (John Hauck)
    25. 02:22 PM - Re: Victor 1+ Report (Jack B. Hart)
    26. 03:12 PM - Re: Victor 1+ Report (John Hauck)
    27. 05:53 PM - Re: Victor 1+ Report (Jack B. Hart)
    28. 07:25 PM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb (chris davis)
    29. 08:05 PM - Re: Victor 1+ Report (John Hauck)
    30. 08:59 PM - Re: Fw: Spark Plugs Condition (dalewhelan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:24:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    From: "icrashrc" <icrashrc@aol.com>
    There's no doubt Homer will be missed by all who knew him. My respect for him grew every time we talked. I spent hours on the phone with him discussing what turns out to have been his last project. He had not called me in a while so i assumed he had most of the kinks worked out. Does anyone know if it flew? Does anyone have info on his final arrangements? PA is a fair hike for me but i would like to attend. Thank you Homer for all the things you've done to make this a better world. Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252914#252914


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    Time: 02:50:06 AM PST US
    From: "Ted Cowan" <tc1917@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Homer
    Here is a pic of the Mr. and Mrs. at Kolb 2007. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot, 912


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    Time: 04:10:33 AM PST US
    From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    Scott, The family was to meet yesterday afternoon with the pastor to make the arrangements for the service(s)and I think the details will be known today. I'll post them as soon as I hear. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of icrashrc Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:24 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb There's no doubt Homer will be missed by all who knew him. My respect for him grew every time we talked. I spent hours on the phone with him discussing what turns out to have been his last project. He had not called me in a while so i assumed he had most of the kinks worked out. Does anyone know if it flew? Does anyone have info on his final arrangements? PA is a fair hike for me but i would like to attend. Thank you Homer for all the things you've done to make this a better world. Scott Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252914#252914


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    Time: 04:42:47 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark plugs condition
    - Ron- The first thing I noticed was the spark plug number.- What engin e do you have?- I thought most of the two stroke Rotax engines used a B8 or B8ES.- - ------------------------- ------------------------ Bi ll Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------ Wi ndsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------ FS 447


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    Time: 04:48:57 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb on Facebook
    From: "Kip" <klaurie@mindspring.com>
    Member # 2! Welcome to the Kolb family, Joerg. -------- 2000 Firestar II R503 DCDI VLS 750 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252926#252926


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    Time: 04:50:42 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    - I just got back from vacation, and caught the notice about Homer.- I wish I'd had the chance to meet him.- He appears to have been one of thos e rare, original creative tinkerers that only come along in a great while. - My condolences to the family, and all who knew him.- He will be misse d. - ------------------------- ---------------------- Bill Sul livan ------------------------- -----------------------Windso r Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ---------------------- FS 447


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    Time: 05:51:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    captainron1(at)cox.net wrote: > -- > kugelair.com > > ============ > Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:48:14 -0400 > From: "Ron @ KFHU" > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Spark Plugs Condition > > I am attaching a couple of pics of the plugs. They have some specs of carbon on them I think. > can experienced 2 cycle drivers tell me what they think. > I am not sure if its running too rich or too much oil, I am at about 38/1 on the oil mix because I calculated 124 fluid ounces per gallon as opposed to 128 oz per gallon. So I am a bit rich on the oil side, not by much though and I am using none synthetic as I had some bottles of it I want to use up. The motor is running fine, just finished a 1.5 hr mission without any negative events.============ Well it won't be running fine for too much longer with plugs like that......... This is a Rotax motor? You already know you're running too much oil (because 50:1 is the required amount) and perhaps you're running to rich too. As someone else said, the plugs are the wrong ones also, if you're running the Rotax you need to use the B8ES/BR8ES (I think the 7 is a colder plug). Here's what I'd do _before flying again_: - pull the exhaust manifold and check for stuck rings. Turn the crank until the rings are visible in the exhaust port. Rock the crank back and forth very slightly and check for play in the rings. They should move minutely in the grooves. If you don't see this, I'd take the motor out of service and do a teardown/decarb. - if that checks out, new set of plugs. - go to 50:1 on the oil. - reset the jetting for your altitude and temp according to the rotax jetting chart (if you changed it from stock). I wouldn't fly that engine again until you've done at least these steps.... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252933#252933


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    Time: 08:00:03 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    > I wouldn't fly that engine again until you've done at least these steps.... > > LS Before I did all that, I'd check to see what engine we are talking about and if a proper plug check was done. john h mkIII


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    Time: 08:16:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    John Hauck wrote: > > I wouldn't fly that engine again until you've done at least these > steps.... > > > > > LS > > > > > > > > Before I did all that, I'd check to see what engine we are talking about and > if a proper plug check was done. > > john h > mkIII Actually, I wouldn't want to see plugs like that come out of a 2-stroke of any make, much less one running on an airplane........ But then again, my bravery as a pilot is towards the lower end of the scale so... take my advice for what it's worth (i.e. what you paid for it)...... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252960#252960


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    Time: 08:39:23 AM PST US
    From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark plugs condition
    It's a Cuyuna 430. The recommended range for light duty cycle is B7, B8 is good if you keep the power in as in heavier machines. In the Dac I fly it at about 50-60% throttle most of the time. =============== ---- william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> wrote: ============ Ron- The first thing I noticed was the spark plug number. What engine do you have? I thought most of the two stroke Rotax engines used a B8 or B8ES. Bill Sullivan Windsor Locks, Ct. FS 447 -- kugelair.com


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    Time: 08:43:25 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    At 12:44 AM 7/14/09 -0400, you wrote: >-- >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:48:14 -0400 >From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> Ron, What ever engine you are using, it is running much too rich. Richard Pike has a very good explaination of how to read plugs on his web site at: http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg11.htm Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 08:53:30 AM PST US
    From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    Right John It's the recommended heat range for the duty on the Cuyuna. It may be running rich a bit, I may play with the valve needle this weekend when the tower is closed here. I will also try the synthetic oil that I have to see how it looks. I know it kept my Yamaha clean from carbon. I have only one mission left and I sure don't want to screw around with that more than I minimally have to. Once I am done with this job for all I care they can recycle this lawn chair into beer cans (even though it's getting to be fun flying this weird contraption). ============================== ---- John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote: ============ > I wouldn't fly that engine again until you've done at least these steps.... > > LS Before I did all that, I'd check to see what engine we are talking about and if a proper plug check was done. john h mkIII -- kugelair.com


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    Time: 08:54:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    From: "marcuskolb" <marcus.kolb@videoray.com>
    Homer was my dad. He wasn't into computers but I would get on htere and we would browse through this site often. He LOVED when people would fly in and really missed the fly in this year. We are having friends and family Friday night in the hanger 6-8pm. ALL are welcome and fly in if you can! It would be a great tribute to dad. I don't care if you want to come earlier as long as you don't mind helping setup. Some are coming in on Thursday and you can camp out or whatever - there will be enough people around with cars to go for gas, food or whatever. Jim H should be here Thursday. The formal services are on Sat at Vincent Mennonite Church in Spring City 10 minute s away. 9-11 is the viewing, 11-12 service then burial with at least 1 FireStar (Dick Rahill) flying over then back to the church outside pavilion for lunch and sharing. I'll miss him so much - I can't even imagine. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252971#252971


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    Time: 09:11:31 AM PST US
    From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    Thanks Jack I'll move the clip one notch up on the scale. It's a Cuyuna 430 with a Mikuni carb. This will be todays project I guess. Density altitude is around 8K nowadays, and best I know the old boy that owned it was from PHX about 1K msl or at most 3K in summer. Right now the clip is attached on the second groove from the bottom, so its fairly rich I guess? =========================== ---- "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> wrote: ============ At 12:44 AM 7/14/09 -0400, you wrote: >-- >Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 23:48:14 -0400 >From: "Ron @ KFHU" <captainron1@cox.net> Ron, What ever engine you are using, it is running much too rich. Richard Pike has a very good explaination of how to read plugs on his web site at: http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg11.htm Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN -- kugelair.com


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    Time: 09:11:31 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Aircraft Site
    FireFlyers & Kolbers, My son sent me the following jump: http://xplanes.tumblr.com/ It may be of interest. I have not viewed all of it so I can not say if it Kolb related or not. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN do not archive


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    Time: 09:12:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    captainron1(at)cox.net wrote: > Right John > It's the recommended heat range for the duty on the Cuyuna. It may be running rich a bit, I may play with the valve needle this weekend when the tower is closed here. I will also try the synthetic oil that I have to see how it looks. I know it kept my Yamaha clean from carbon. I have only one mission left and I sure don't want to screw around with that more than I minimally have to. Once I am done with this job for all I care they can recycle this lawn chair into beer cans (even though it's getting to be fun flying this weird contraption). > > The pictures of the plugs in the link Jack sent are pretty much spot on on what you want to see in any 2-stroke, cuyuna, Rotax or otherwise. You want a dry, chocolate brown and not a wet, black plug. This will be the same regardless of the type of oil used (i.e. dino vs synthetic). I stand by my recommendations for basic checks before flying again, particularly if the motor has been operated this rich for an extended period of time. LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252978#252978


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    Time: 09:23:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    From: flycolt45@aol.com
    I can be there early Fri till I go back to FL on Sat night (with my pick up truck) so I'd be glad to assist with whatever needs doing.? You know Marcus, most times when people pass, others will take time to think of nice memories that they will remember (and in some cases they have to dig deep to find nice memories : ) If you've read the Kolb list - everyone who has had any contact with your dad all say the same thing about him.? (As you and your family I'm sure understand).? We all claim him! I'm an Army guy and I've been a wreck since!? Always thought that when I came to PA - he'd be there.? I won't have to come to PA now to find him & it will be easier to talk with him? : ) I'll check in on Fri AM to see what I can help with. You can give my name & No to Jim Hauck or whomever is the?point of contact for support missions.? If you need someone to organize - I will.?? Whatever you need. Jim (561) 252-1233 -----Original Message----- From: marcuskolb <marcus.kolb@videoray.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 11:54 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb Homer was my dad. He wasn't into computers but I would get on htere and we would browse through this site often. He LOVED when people would fly in and really missed the fly in this year. We are having friends and family Friday night in the hanger 6-8pm. ALL are welcome and fly in if you can! It would be a great tribute to dad. I don't care if you want to come earlier as long as you don't mind helping setup. Some are coming in on Thursday and you can camp out or whatever - there will be enough people around with cars to go for gas, food or whatever. Jim H should be here Thursday. The formal services are on Sat at Vincent Mennonite Church in Spring City 10 minute s away. 9-11 is the viewing, 11-12 service then burial with at least 1 FireStar (Dick Rahill) flying over then back to the church outside pavilion for lunch and sharing. I'll miss him so much - I can't even imagine. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252971#252971


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    Time: 09:32:09 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    My thoughts go out to all in the Kolb community. I never met Homer Kolb but I had the distinct pleasure of flying one of his designs (FSII) for a while (and am still kicking myself a bit for having sold it). Very sorry to hear of his passing... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252985#252985


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    Time: 09:33:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    From: flycolt45@aol.com
    Sorry List. My last note was meant for Marcus. Jim -----Original Message----- From: flycolt45@aol.com Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 12:15 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb I can be there early Fri till I go back to FL on Sat night (with my pick up truck) so I'd be glad to assist with whatever needs doing.? You know Marcus, most times when people pass, others will take time to think of nice memories that they will remember (and in some cases they have to dig deep to find nice memories : ) If you've read the Kolb list - everyone who has had any contact with your dad all say the same thing about him.? (As you and your family I'm sure understand).? We all claim him! I'm an Army guy and I've been a wreck since!? Always thought that when I came to PA - he'd be there.? I won't have to come to PA now to find him & it will be easier to talk with him? : ) I'll check in on Fri AM to see what I can help with. You can give my name & No to Jim Hauck or whomever is the?point of contact for support missions.? If you need someone to organize - I will.?? Whatever you need. Jim (561) 252-1233 -----Original Message----- From: marcuskolb <marcus.kolb@videoray.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 14, 2009 11:54 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb Homer was my dad. He wasn't into computers but I would get on htere and we would browse through this site often. He LOVED when people would fly in and really missed the fly in this year. We are having friends and family Friday night in the hanger 6-8pm. ALL are welcome and fly in if you can! It would be a great tribute to dad. I don't care if you want to come earlier as long as you don't mind helping setup. Some are coming in on Thursday and you can camp out or whatever - there will be enough people around with cars to go for gas, food or whatever. Jim H should be here Thursday. The formal services are on Sat at Vincent Mennonite Church in Spring City 10 minute s away. 9-11 is the viewing, 11-12 service then burial with at least 1 FireStar (Dick Rahill) flying over then back to the church outside pavilion for lunch and sharing. I'll miss him so much - I can't even imagine. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252971#252971 What's for dinner tonight? Find quick and easy dinner ideas for any occasion.


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    Time: 09:53:23 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    Marcus/Gang: I am flying the mkIII to the Kolb Farm. Will depart Gantt IAP tomorrow evening or Thursday morning. It is 800 air miles, so will probably take 10 to 11 flight hours to get there, probably a day and a half. I won't have a suit and tie with me, but I won't need one to be part of the Missing Man Formation. I think Homer would approve of my attire. Take care, john h mkIII Titus, Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: "marcuskolb" <marcus.kolb@videoray.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:54 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb > > Homer was my dad. He wasn't into computers but I would get on htere and we > would browse through this site often. He LOVED when people would fly in > and really missed the fly in this year. > We are having friends and family Friday night in the hanger 6-8pm. ALL are > welcome and fly in if you can! It would be a great tribute to dad. > I don't care if you want to come earlier as long as you don't mind helping > setup. Some are coming in on Thursday and you can camp out or whatever - > there will be enough people around with cars to go for gas, food or > whatever. Jim H should be here Thursday. > The formal services are on Sat at Vincent Mennonite Church in Spring City > 10 minute s away. 9-11 is the viewing, 11-12 service then burial with at > least 1 FireStar (Dick Rahill) flying over then back to the church outside > pavilion for lunch and sharing. > I'll miss him so much - I can't even imagine. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252971#252971 > > >


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    Time: 11:44:50 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    Hi Marcus, in this moment of grief rememeber all the people on this list who would not be here together if it were not for your fathers genius and design philosophy. A worldwide company who owe a lot to his memory. He will not be forgotten, a tribute which is not accorded to many men. Pat


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    Time: 01:13:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Another alternative engine
    From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
    Try putting a 10# flywheel on it that is directly attached to the engine (in-between the engine and rubber donut). Make sure that most of the weight is on the outer ring of the flywheel. The BMW R100 smoothed out considerably at low RPM with a heavier flywheel. aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com wrote: > Flew over to Selby's, a local ultralight strip on a horse farm, this morning in the trike and met a fellow who has a Moto Guzzi engine on a Pinnochio (Bleriot look alike if you stand back a few feet. He has a Moto Guzzi engine mated to a Rotax E box. The project has been stalled because he can't get the engine to run at idle and off idle with the prop on it. Runs fine without the prop, runs fine above 4000 RPM. Anyone tried this engine on a Kolb, or anything else for that matter. Steve tells me they're popular in Europe, but they use a different gearbox. > > Rick Girard > do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253009#253009


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    Time: 01:23:14 PM PST US
    From: Dave Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    *Time: * */04:23:44 PM PST US/* *Subject: * /*_Re: Homer Kolb_*/ *From: * */"JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com <mailto:orcabonita@hotmail.com>>/* * That is a shame, but he led a successful life. Building airplanes and flying them your entire life, and seeing the company you started keep selling your designs until the last day. It does not get much better than that ! The Kolb Quad is really cool, is there any more information on that plane anywhere ? That must have been the first Kolb, I would like to know what year and how it flew. Mike Mike, I don't know for sure if this is the Quad you're referring to - it does have four engines - but this is one he flew in 1956. According to Dennis Souder he had to come in really hot, about 50 mph if I recall correctly. If the attachment gets stripped on its way to the list, email me directly and I'll send it to you, and anyone else who's interested, off list. Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK *


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    Time: 01:46:59 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Fw: Homer's Obituary - please pass along as you wish
    Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Homer's Obituary - please pass along as you wish Homer E. Kolb, 78, husband of Clara (Moyer) Kolb of Phoenixville, went home to be with the Lord July 12th at Phoenixville Hospital. Born on September 15, 1930 in Spring City, he was the son of the late Jacob F. and Climena (Ehst) Kolb. He died of complications from cardiac surgery a few days earlier. Homer was a legendary innovator in the development of Ultralight and Experimental Aircraft. As a child, he would ride his bicycle 7 miles to Pottstown to watch the airplanes. Soon after he turned 16 he earned his pilot's license. He would later be credited by many with inventing the concept of an ultralight aircraft as he dreamed of an airplane that weighed less than its pilot. A committed Christian and practicing Mennonite, Homer served in Germany in the PAX program as a Conscientious Objector following WWII. He then married Clara Moyer of Telford. They purchased a farm in 1955, just a few miles downstream from his father's farm. He farmed during the day, drove a tractor trailer for UPS at night; but all the while he worked on successive aircraft designs - airplanes that had several chainsaw engines for propulsion and looked like nothing anyone had seen before. In 1980, Homer started the Kolb Company in his barn, manufacturing light aircraft kits and plans. Kolb Company became one of the largest kit aircraft companies in the world, stressing customer service and innovation. In 1994 he sold the company to his employees, and in 1999 it was moved to Kentucky where it flourishes today with Homer's designs. Homer was a charter member of the Experimental Aircraft Association, and was honored many times for his contributions to lightweight aircraft design and production. Among his awards was the Dr. August Raspet award for "outstanding contributions to the advancement of the design of light aircraft". In 1985 he received the Charles Lindberg award for Grand Champion Ultralight, and in 1999 he was one of the first three people inducted into the EAA Hall of Fame. The Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum in Washington, DC has requested to display his first aircraft design. Folks: Here is Homer's Obituary from Markus Kolb. jhauck mkIII When Homer retired from active aircraft design, he began restoring antique John Deere tractors. His oldest tractor was a running 1919 Waterloo Boy which he enjoyed bringing to shows, though he restored many tractors to showroom condition. He was a member of the Waterloo Boys of Chester County and Bucks-Mont Two-Cylinder Antique Tractor Club. But he still worked on cutting-edge aircraft designs; he was close to completing an all electric-powered airplane, and had several other designs in the planning stage. Despite his worldwide acclaim and accomplishments, those who knew Homer were far more impressed with his humility and devotion to his family and church. His perspective of the church primarily focused on the -people- of the church; his unwavering energies and lifelong dedication welcomed, encouraged, and supported everyone whom he encountered, whether it be a first-time visitor or a member of many years. He was greatly devoted to his wife Clara and his greatest joy was his children and grandchildren, several of whom lived with him on his large farm in East Pikeland. In addition to his wife of 55 years, Homer is survived by daughter Christine and husband Dan Balmer of Telford, daughter Joan and husband Jim Kucharik of Phoenixville, son Marcus and wife Carol of Phoenixville, and grandchildren: Joshua, Jessica, Alisha and husband Aaron, Faith, Austin, Jordan, Chloe and Wesley. Also sister Ruth K. Essick of Pottstown and brother Wilmer E. and wife LaVon N. of Spring City. Family and friends are invited to celebrate Homer's life at 11 a.m. on Saturday, July 18 at Vincent Mennonite Church, 39 Seven Stars Rd, Spring City. Calling hours will be from 9-11 a.m. in the church. There will also be an informal time to greet the family on Friday, July 17 from 6-8 p.m. at the farm. In lieu of flowers and to continue Homer's passion for reaching the world (or people) with Christ through the local church and missions, memorial contributions can be made in his name to Vincent Mennonite Church Building Fund, 39 Seven Stars Rd, Spring City, PA 19475 or Jungle Aviation And Radio Service (JAARS) Inc, PO Box 248, Waxhaw, NC 28173.


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    Time: 02:22:52 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Victor 1+ Report
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com > Can you tell us what the HP of the MZ 34 is, and the weight, and what prop you plan to use? > Ed, When I purchased my engine back in February of 2004, it was rated at 27 hp. It weighed 42 pounds after removing the manual start mechanism. The largest propeller I can swing by running the engine inverted and rotating the belt reduction unit up 120 degrees is 55 inches. I have an IVO that I cut power tips on that is a little over 54 inches that I will use. Today I mounted the propeller and started shimming the engine to take care of P factor. Tomorrow I will finish shimming and also slide the battery as far forward on the root tube as I can. Right now the FireFly minus wings cg is a little 3.2 inches back from where it was with the Victor 1+ on board. Today I removed the turtle shell from behind the fuselage to give a little better air flow over the head and cylinder. Also I measured the weight difference in propeller blades. These two changes took off another pound. This brings the fuselage weight down to 45 pounds below what it originally was. Tomorrow I will check fuselage cg again to see if I am making headway. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 03:12:13 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Victor 1+ Report
    > Today I mounted the propeller and started shimming the engine to take care > of P factor. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN Never had a P factor problem with a Kolb aircraft of any model, turning up to 72" 3 blade props with 95 hp (actual), or as little as 35 hp turning a 50" blade. Wonder why your little FF has a significant enough P factor problem to warrant off setting thrust line/shimming the engine? john h mkIII


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    Time: 05:53:59 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Victor 1+ Report
    At 04:57 PM 7/14/09 -0500, you wrote: > > >Wonder why your little FF has a significant enough P factor problem to >warrant off setting thrust line/shimming the engine? > John, It is all in how you want to trim out your aircraft for cruise. If I didn't have a slip ball indicator, I wouldn't worry about it. But if the ball is out at cruise, you are slipping and that means you are flying with a higher drag profile than is necessary. If the propeller rotary axis is not parallel to the direction of travel, there will be P factor. By shimming one can move the ball closer to the center. When further change gives no gain, then one can offset the propeller on a pusher aircraft to make up the difference and bring the ball into center without a trim tab on the rudder. This problem is common to all single propeller tractor and pusher single engine aircraft from RC models and on up through large ga and military aircraft. More info can be found at: http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly56.html In terms of significance, it is only how much you want to put into something to make, in my case, the FireFly a little more economical to fly with reduced pilot effort. If you use a rudder trim tab to bring in the ball at cruise without checking for P factor, you run the chance of flying at reduced propeller efficiencies. The shimming and offset solution is a win win, in that, the propeller is operating at it's highest efficiency, and there is no drag caused by an extra trim tab. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 07:25:31 PM PST US
    From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Homer Kolb
    =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck@ elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:52:50 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb=0A=0A--> Kolb-List me ssage posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0A=0AMarcus/Gang:=0A =0AI am flying the mkIII to the Kolb Farm.- Will depart Gantt IAP tomorro w evening or Thursday morning.- It is 800 air miles, so will probably tak e 10 to 11 flight hours to get there, probably a day and a half.=0A=0AI won 't have a suit and tie with me, but I won't need one to be part of the Miss ing Man Formation.- I think Homer would approve of my attire.=0A=0ATake c are,=0A=0Ajohn h=0AmkIII=0ATitus, Alabama=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message -- --- From: "marcuskolb" <marcus.kolb@videoray.com>=0ATo: <kolb-list@matronic s.com>=0ASent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:54 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: Re: Ho lb@videoray.com>=0A> =0A> Homer was my dad. He wasn't into computers but I would get on htere and we would browse through this site often. He LOVED wh en people would fly in and really missed the fly in this year.=0A> We are h aving friends and family Friday night in the hanger 6-8pm. ALL are welcome and fly in if you can! It would be a great tribute to dad.=0A> I don't care if you want to come earlier as long as you don't mind helping setup. Some are coming in on Thursday and you can camp out or whatever - there will be enough people around with cars to go for gas, food or whatever. Jim H shoul d be here Thursday.=0A> The formal services are on Sat at Vincent Mennonite Church in Spring City 10 minute s away. 9-11 is the viewing, 11-12 service then burial with at least 1 FireStar (Dick Rahill) flying over then back t o the church outside pavilion for lunch and sharing.=0A> I'll miss him so m uch - I can't even imagine.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Read this topic online here:=0A> =0A> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=252971#252971 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -Matt Dralle, List ========0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 08:05:53 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Victor 1+ Report
    But if the ball is > out at cruise, you are slipping and that means you are flying with a > higher > drag profile than is necessary. If the propeller rotary axis is not > parallel to the direction of travel, there will be P factor. By shimming > one can move the ball closer to the center. When further change gives no > gain, then one can offset the propeller on a pusher aircraft to make up > the > difference and bring the ball into center without a trim tab on the > rudder. > > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN How do you trim the aircraft relative wind? I trim mine with the rudder. How do you counteract adverse yaw caused by the cork screwing prop wash hitting one side of the vertical stabilizer and relative wind hitting the opposite side of the rudder? On the MKIII, I do it with a very large trim tab. I think p factor has little of no effect on our Kolbs. During my experiments with the FS and MKIII, I was not able to see any significant change/advantage in offsetting the engine thrust line horizontally or vertically. I know you are an avid experimenter and enjoy attempting to squeeze every gram of efficiency out of your FF. You also fly much slower and with much less hp than most of us. However, for the average Kolb flyer like me and most others, there doesn't seem to be much advantage in changing the standard engine mount orientation. john h mkIII


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    Time: 08:59:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Spark Plugs Condition
    From: "dalewhelan" <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>
    B7ES is Hotter than B8ES. The heat range is about the plugs ability to transfer heat from the combustion chamber to the head. The plugs look rich. I could guess and say at all throttle openings but that is dangerously presumptuous. The reality is you need to know how the motor was being run when that color developed. The plug temperature was too cold at shut down for me to be able to determine if you ignition timing/ fuel octane is correct. Correct this with jetting first, changing to a hotter plug could be disastrous. My experience is that most people on this board will tell you you are running too much oil. I don't want to revisit that, I can tell you that the amount of oil you are running is not causing the problem you are having. I have seen it at 50:1 on motors with too large a needle jet. There are many pitfalls in jetting a motor, especially 2 strokes. For example, needle jets wear, you may be skilled enough to figure out that you are rich on the needle jet and change from a worn out one to a good one a step leaner. Now you are too lean. There are many good sources about jetting. If you want you can contact me and I will help. If you want you can google my name to see if you think I can be of any help to you. I used to teach carbeuration -------- Dale Whelan 503 powered Firestar II Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253076#253076




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