---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 07/19/09: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:12 AM - Re: throttle cable greensky (Thom Riddle) 2. 05:42 AM - Re: Re: Homer Kolb () 3. 05:46 AM - Re: Homer Kolb () 4. 06:49 AM - Re: Homer Kolb (marcuskolb) 5. 09:21 AM - Fw: New Camera (Larry Cottrell) 6. 10:12 AM - Larry's vid (robert bean) 7. 11:23 AM - Re: throttle cable greensky (Richard Girard) 8. 11:51 AM - Re: throttle cable greensky (frank.goodnight) 9. 03:13 PM - Re: throttle cable greensky (dalewhelan) 10. 03:19 PM - Fw: Fw: New Camera (Larry Cottrell) 11. 06:23 PM - Re: Re: throttle cable greensky (Richard Girard) 12. 06:55 PM - Re: Re: throttle cable greensky (Jim Baker) 13. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: throttle cable greensky (Richard Girard) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:12:54 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: throttle cable greensky From: "Thom Riddle" I can't say for sure about the Bings on the HKS but the Bing 64 carbs on the 912 series, you can move the lower end of the spring to switch the spring action direction. I do this when installing new cables to make sure the throttles are closed against the idle stop during initial connection of the cable, then move them back to the normal hold open position. Ever try to push a rope? If you want the cable to push the throttle against spring tension, the throttle cable should be the solid wire type. For pulling against the tension spring the wire rope type can be used and is more flexible. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253697#253697 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:07 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb Morning Jim H/Gang: All went well yesterday. Dick Rahill and I, probably the two oldest factory pilots (in age and time with the Kolb Company) completed our mission for our friend Homer Kolb. I flew lead and was also the missing man in our two ship formation of my mkIII and Dick's J-5. Departed Homer's for Alabama at 0645 EDST this morning. Just had coffee and breakfast at the airport in York, PA. Have about 9 more hours flying to get back to Gantt IAP, Alabama. Engine and aircraft are preforming flawlessly. Weather looks good up here, but have not checked it further to the SW. Take care, john h mkIII ---- jimhefner wrote: > > I'm deeply saddened to learn of Homer Kolb's passing! His contributions to affordable aviation will live on as long as we have freedom of flight. > > I sure wish he would have been able to join us at one of the MV gatherings so us Westerners could have met him. > > His obituary tells a lot about Homer Kolb.... his contributions are many but he remained well grounded in his faith and his family to the end. > > Condolences to his family and close friends. > > I hope the weather cooperated for the missing man fly-over! > > -------- > Jim Hefner > Tucson, AZ > Do Not Archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253652#253652 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:02 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Homer Kolb Gene Z: Thanks, my friend. Sorry I missed you and your family. Take care, john h mkIII ---- Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > > John, > > John, > Met Bro Jim at the memorial service today, but saw you only in the > air. I want to personally thank you for your special part in the > memorial service to honor of our flying Patriarch, Mr.Homer E Kolb. > > God speed on your trip home. > > Eugene Zimmerman > > > > > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 8:21 PM, > wrote: > > > > > Hi gang: > > > > Flew 8 hours yesterday. Spent the night in my tent at Patomac > > Airport Berkley Springs, WV. Two hours flight time this morning and > > I was on the ground at Homer's. > > > > At this time we are having a get together for Homer in the hanger. > > The place is packed with friends and family. It is also raining, > > but that has not dampened the enthusiam to remember our friend Homer > > Kolb. > > > > Brother Jim Hauck was here when I got here. He drove up. > > > > Have gotten to visit with many of the old Kolb gang from the early > > days of Kolb Aircraft. Always good to see them, but would have been > > better if Homer was here to enjoy the company. > > > > Tomorrow is the funeral. Dick Rahill and I will fly a missing man > > formation in honor of Homer. Hope the rain holds off until we can > > get our job done. > > > > Take care, > > > > john h > > mkIII > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:23 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Homer Kolb From: "marcuskolb" We had several great tributes to dad at the funeral services but having Dick and John flying around, dad's FireStar and his Waterloo Boy in front of the church were really special. To top it all off, John and Dick flew a missing man with perfect timing. Dad was lowered into the grave with a prayer and just as the prayer was finished, we saw a high speed, downwind pass with John splitting off over the grave site. It was awesome and I'm sure I wasn't the only one who got goosebumps. Thank you all so much for your thoughts, prayers and kind words for dad. We had a video and picture montage playing during the viewing and many of your comments from this thread were interleaved, which made it extra special. THANK YOU John and Dick and thank you all - he will be greatly missed! Marcus Kolb, son of Homer Kolb, man of God Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253705#253705 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:52 AM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: New Camera ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: New Camera http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IotKGVi21Z8 I have a new camera that I am trying. It is a "Spy" type camera that a friend has been using on his RC airplanes. The format is the same as that used by my digital one and the same size as well. I took one of my old caps that is too dirty to wear in public anymore and riveted a holder for it. The only problem is of course that head movements are quite a bit faster than the eye is used to. I shot several clips and have put together two of them. I spent all day yesterday trying to upload them to my blog, which is just not going to happen. They are too big, but You Tube seems to have no problem with it. The quality of the clips is terrible, some of the problems with it is shooting through the Lexan, and the rest is the loss of uploading to the internet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Z1ENQM1LE Larry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:56 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: Larry's vid Not in public? I wore this'un to a flyin breakfast this morning and they didn't quarantine me. DSCN1999.JPG I thought the quality was good. If you could ease back on the engine noise and bring up the music? How do you pronounce that river? BB
________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:23:49 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: throttle cable greensky From: Richard Girard Frank, I haven't researched it to find if it is a Rotax part or a Bing part. I'll give Charlie at the Bing Agency in Council Grove a call in the morning and let you know. Rick do not archive On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM, frank.goodnight wrote: > Rick who would one see about getting a 912 type setup? > Frank Goodnight > > do not archive > On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > > Frank, This is something I've thought about since I started flying the HKS. > I think I'm going to get the 912 cable linkage and install it this winter. > It works as an aircraft should and sends the engine to full power if the > throttle cable breaks. > Rick Girard > do not archive > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, frank.goodnight wrote: > >> frank.goodnight@att.net> >> >> I bought a throttle cable kit for a HKS from jerry at greensky at 81 hrs >> -yesterday - the >> cable broke . lucky for me , I was doing a touch and go and was climbing >> through about >> 50 ft. when it let go and I had plenty of runway left. the engine went to >> idle I landed ,end of >> problelm except for a long push to get off the runway. I haven't found why >> it broke.when i do >> i'll post it. May go back with a larger cable >> >> >> Frank Goodnight >> Firestar 2 >> Brownsville ,TX >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> > * > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:29 AM PST US From: "frank.goodnight" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: throttle cable greensky Rick, thanks for your help . The way its rigged now , when the cable breaks it's the same as a total engine failure. I want to change to something better. Frank Goodnight do not archive On Jul 19, 2009, at 1:23 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > Frank, I haven't researched it to find if it is a Rotax part or a > Bing part. I'll give Charlie at the Bing Agency in Council Grove a > call in the morning and let you know. > > Rick > do not archive > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:11 PM, frank.goodnight > wrote: > Rick who would one see about getting a 912 type setup? > > Frank Goodnight > > do not archive > On Jul 18, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > >> Frank, This is something I've thought about since I started flying >> the HKS. I think I'm going to get the 912 cable linkage and install >> it this winter. It works as an aircraft should and sends the engine >> to full power if the throttle cable breaks. >> >> Rick Girard >> do not archive >> >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:46 AM, frank.goodnight > > wrote: >> > >> >> I bought a throttle cable kit for a HKS from jerry at greensky at >> 81 hrs -yesterday - the >> cable broke . lucky for me , I was doing a touch and go and was >> climbing through about >> 50 ft. when it let go and I had plenty of runway left. the engine >> went to idle I landed ,end of >> problelm except for a long push to get off the runway. I haven't >> found why it broke.when i do >> i'll post it. May go back with a larger cable >> >> >> Frank Goodnight >> Firestar 2 >> Brownsville ,TX >> >> ========== >> arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > a>http://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:13:11 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: throttle cable greensky From: "dalewhelan" Frank, glad you are safe. I used to make throttle cables and such for motorcycles. I think aircraft Spruce may have the tools and parts you need. I had great success with dipping the part in some chemical they offered (an acid?) and then into a solder pot. Just fray the ends so they can't fit through the fittings and fill the void with the solder. -------- Dale Whelan 503 powered Firestar II Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253777#253777 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:55 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Fw: Kolb-List: Fw: New Camera ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Cottrell Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 2:33 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: New Camera http://www.hobbypartz.com/hicocagrforf.html Here is the link for the camera. it is 648 X 480 resolution which is the same as the digital camera that I have been using. There is a USB port and cable that comes with it that just plugs into your computer, and the file plays on Windows Media player. It is supposed to record from 1.5 to 2 hours of video. The sites shows that they are out of them at the moment, which was the case when I first got interested, so they apparently fly off the shelves pretty fast. $49.00 is the cost. I have been experimenting with a foam holder that mounts on my door that I think might do the job for me, I will try it either this evening or tomorrow morning depending on the weather. If you are using a wind screen instead of a full enclosure the hat would work just fine. The river is pronounced as "O wah ee". Some early emigrants from Hawaii were herding sheep in the area and thought that it reminded them of home. Since early settlers were apparently as bad at spelling as I am, (had to call the wife to help) it ended up as Owyhee. Oh, they were later killed by Indians, unknown if it had anything to do with what they called the river. Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Laird To: lcottrell@fmtcblue.com Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fw: New Camera Can you provide details on where you got the camera, make, model, cost, etc., and what device was being used to record it? Thx! -- Robert ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 07/19/09 05:57:00 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:23:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: throttle cable greensky From: Richard Girard If anyone is looking around for a solder pot, DO NOT go to an aircraft supply outfit for it, go to an electronics supplier. I got exactly the same solder pot for about $30 less. Yes the flux used is an acid flux. See if you can find a local stained glass shop for it, otherwise shipping companies want a hazardous material fee that jacks up the shipping cost, too. Rick Girard do not archive On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 5:12 PM, dalewhelan wrote: > > Frank, glad you are safe. > > I used to make throttle cables and such for motorcycles. > I think aircraft Spruce may have the tools and parts you need. > I had great success with dipping the part in some chemical they offered (an > acid?) and then into a solder pot. > Just fray the ends so they can't fit through the fittings and fill the void > with the solder. > > -------- > Dale Whelan > 503 powered Firestar II > Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253777#253777 > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:21 PM PST US From: "Jim Baker" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: throttle cable greensky X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > If anyone is looking around for a solder pot, DO NOT go to an aircraft > supply outfit for it, go to an electronics supplier. My pot was created out of a spare piece of AL tube and judicious use of a propane torch...not too much heat, just enough to keep the solder shiny. All of $1.00 invested. Jim Baker 580.788.2779 405. 426.5377 cell Elmore City, OK ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:10:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: throttle cable greensky From: Richard Girard Thom, No need to push with a cable, just make the change from pulling the throttle open to pulling it closed. Rick do not archive On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 6:12 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > I can't say for sure about the Bings on the HKS but the Bing 64 carbs on > the 912 series, you can move the lower end of the spring to switch the > spring action direction. I do this when installing new cables to make sure > the throttles are closed against the idle stop during initial connection of > the cable, then move them back to the normal hold open position. > > Ever try to push a rope? > If you want the cable to push the throttle against spring tension, the > throttle cable should be the solid wire type. For pulling against the > tension spring the wire rope type can be used and is more flexible. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY > http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi > http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix > > A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a > simple system that works. > - John Gaule > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=253697#253697 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.