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1. 04:40 AM - Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (Thom Riddle)
2. 06:14 AM - Re: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (Larry Cottrell)
3. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (John Hauck)
4. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (b young)
5. 07:53 AM - Re: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (John Hauck)
6. 09:15 AM - Re: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (b young)
7. 09:27 AM - plexus (b young)
8. 09:34 AM - Re: swivel tailwheel for Kolbs (Thom Riddle)
9. 10:00 AM - Re: plexus (John Hauck)
10. 10:20 AM - Re: plexus (Robert Laird)
11. 10:38 AM - Re: plexus-plexall (Jon LaVasseur)
12. 10:56 AM - Kolb at Oshkosh (Rex Rodebush)
13. 11:13 AM - Re: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (Richard Girard)
14. 11:20 AM - Re: plexus (Richard Girard)
15. 11:21 AM - Re: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes (John Hauck)
16. 11:36 AM - Re: plexus (John Hauck)
17. 12:11 PM - Re: plexus (lucien)
18. 02:57 PM - Re: Re: plexus (robert bean)
19. 04:12 PM - Re: New Camera, Owyhee Ramblins (russ kinne)
20. 04:48 PM - Re: Re: plexus (John Hauck)
21. 05:13 PM - Re: New Camera, Owyhee Ramblins (Larry Cottrell)
22. 06:54 PM - Re: FINALLY !!! (Kip)
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight Trikes |
Larry,
That one is your best yet! No place like that near here so us back-easters are
loving this.
The lens blemish was a little distracting for a minute or so but then I forgot
it was there. But since it is your money and not mine, if you can't polish it
out.... just get a new one :-).
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight |
Trikes
Your reasoning is flawless. I have been entertaining those same
thoughts. Not sure about the little woman though.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Thom Riddle
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:40 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with
Ultralight Trikes
Larry,
That one is your best yet! No place like that near here so us
back-easters are loving this.
The lens blemish was a little distracting for a minute or so but then
I forgot it was there. But since it is your money and not mine, if you
can't polish it out.... just get a new one :-).
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
http://riddletr.googlepages.com/sportpilot-cfi
http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a
simple system that works.
- John Gaule
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight |
Trikes
Larry:
Did you try Plexus on the ding?
Anybody got a good inexpensive source for Plexus plastic cleaner and
polish?
Since it became popular, the price has gone out of sight. I found a
source for 10.00, 13 oz cans, but they wanted 25.00 to ship 5 cans. ;-(
Corresponding with them to get a better shipping fee resulted in one
reply, then nada.
john h
mkIII
Your reasoning is flawless. I have been entertaining those same
thoughts. Not sure about the little woman though.
Larry
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight |
Trikes
Anybody got a good inexpensive source for Plexus plastic cleaner and polish?
Since it became popular, the price has gone out of sight. I found a source
for 10.00, 13 oz cans, but they wanted 25.00 to ship 5 cans. ;-(
Corresponding with them to get a better shipping fee resulted in one reply,
then nada.
john h
mkIII
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I got a can for around 7.50 to 8.00 at the local fbo they had bought a
case and were selling it by the can.
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight |
Trikes
Boyd:
Thanks for the info.
I will be coming through Morgan and Brigham City in September. I'll
stop by and stock up, if they still have some.
Of all the times I have landed at Brigham City, I have never been in the
FBO. It is on the opposite end of the ramp from the SS Fuel?
john h
mkIII
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I got a can for around 7.50 to 8.00 at the local fbo they had
bought a case and were selling it by the can.
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight |
Trikes
John
If you are standing in front of the gas pump. It is the building 4 steps
from the pump on your left. Airamotive service. If you would like I can
pick up a can just incase they are closed when you come through. At least
I think it is plexus, I will check and let you know. Would you want more
than one can?
Boyd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Boyd:
Thanks for the info.
I will be coming through Morgan and Brigham City in September. I'll stop by
and stock up, if they still have some.
Of all the times I have landed at Brigham City, I have never been in the
FBO. It is on the opposite end of the ramp from the SS Fuel?
john h
mkIII
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I got a can for around 7.50 to 8.00 at the local fbo they had bought a
case and were selling it by the can.
Boyd
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Since it became popular, the price has gone out of sight. I found a source
for 10.00, 13 oz cans, but they wanted 25.00 to ship 5 cans. ;-(
Corresponding with them to get a better shipping fee resulted in one reply,
then nada.
john h
mkIII
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Just got a phone call back from the airport. They want 16.75 for a 13 oz
aerosol can. It really has gone up.
Or my memory on how much I paid is a bit fuzzy.
Boyd
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Subject: | Re: swivel tailwheel for Kolbs |
Dana,
Attached are two photos of the 4" full swivel tailwheel. I weighed it an was surprised
that it weighs only 2 lb 12 oz. That is the good news. The bad news for
you is that another Kolber has already committed to buy it for an agreeable
price. Unless he reneges (very unlikely), it is sold. Thanks for your interest.
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
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http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix
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that works.
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Not price gouging, of course!
Thanks for your efforts, Boyd.
That's gouging. Price for the same can, on line, from Plexus Company,
is 13.75.
Maybe, we as a List, can make an extensive search to come up with a
good, reliable, and not too expensive source, for Plexus.
If you have not used it, it is a miracle, especially on long cross
country flights. It is a pleasure to get back in the airplane after the
lexan has been cleaned and polished with Plexus.
I bought a can of "generic" stuff that is supposed to do the same thing
as Plexus, for 10.00, somewhere in VA, but it doesn't do what Plexus
does. When dew or rain gets on it, after application, it streaks like
crazy. Not what I am looking for.
Guess Plexus has gone the route of Rotax. Captive market, good product,
demand, double the price. ;-(
john h
mkIII
----- Original Message -----
From: b young
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:26 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: plexus
Since it became popular, the price has gone out of sight. I found a
source for 10.00, 13 oz cans, but they wanted 25.00 to ship 5 cans. ;-(
Corresponding with them to get a better shipping fee resulted in one
reply, then nada.
john h
mkIII
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
Just got a phone call back from the airport. They want 16.75 for a
13 oz aerosol can. It really has gone up.
Or my memory on how much I paid is a bit fuzzy.
Boyd
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2 kits of Plexus for $20.99
http://www.jcwhitney.com/PLEXUS-PLASTIC-CLEANER-PROTECTANT-AND-POLISH/GP_2000740_N_111+10211+600014934_10111.jcw
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
> Not price gouging, of course!
>
> Thanks for your efforts, Boyd.
>
> That's gouging. Price for the same can, on line, from Plexus Company, is
> 13.75.
>
> Maybe, we as a List, can make an extensive search to come up with a good,
> reliable, and not too expensive source, for Plexus.
>
> If you have not used it, it is a miracle, especially on long cross country
> flights. It is a pleasure to get back in the airplane after the lexan has
> been cleaned and polished with Plexus.
>
> I bought a can of "generic" stuff that is supposed to do the same thing as
> Plexus, for 10.00, somewhere in VA, but it doesn't do what Plexus does.
> When dew or rain gets on it, after application, it streaks like crazy. Not
> what I am looking for.
>
> Guess Plexus has gone the route of Rotax. Captive market, good product,
> demand, double the price. ;-(
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* b young <by0ung@brigham.net>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:26 AM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: plexus
>
>
> Since it became popular, the price has gone out of sight. I found a source
> for 10.00, 13 oz cans, but they wanted 25.00 to ship 5 cans. ;-(
> Corresponding with them to get a better shipping fee resulted in one reply,
> then nada.
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>
>
> Just got a phone call back from the airport. They want 16.75 for a 13
> oz aerosol can. It really has gone up.
>
> Or my memory on how much I paid is a bit fuzzy.
>
>
> Boyd
>
>
> *
>
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Subject: | Re: plexus-plexall |
Hi guys,=0A=0AI have not used Plexus but was directed by a GA friend to PLE
XALL.- This is also aerosol and works great.- A 20 oz. can is $5.50 plu
s shipping.- You can try the link below or just Google Plexall for other
sources.=0A=0Ahttp://www.wellworthproducts.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=produ
ct.display&product_id=1589=0A=0AHope this information is helphful to some
one.=0A=0AJon L=0AMinnesota=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A
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Travis told me they would be at Oshkosh but I forgot the booth location. Does
anyone know? They are not listed on the Airventure Site.
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight |
Trikes
John, Like everything else once it gets an aviation tag the price goes up. I
get mine at a local plastic supply house for around $5.50 a can.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:02 AM, b young <by0ung@brigham.net> wrote:
> John
>
>
> If you are standing in front of the gas pump. It is the building 4 steps
> from the pump on your left. Airamotive service. If you would like I can
> pick up a can just incase they are closed when you come through. At least
> I think it is plexus, I will check and let you know. Would you want more
> than one can?
>
>
> Boyd
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>
>
> Boyd:
>
>
> Thanks for the info.
>
>
> I will be coming through Morgan and Brigham City in September. I'll stop
> by and stock up, if they still have some.
>
>
> Of all the times I have landed at Brigham City, I have never been in the
> FBO. It is on the opposite end of the ramp from the SS Fuel?
>
>
> john h
>
> mkIII
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> I got a can for around 7.50 to 8.00 at the local fbo they had bought a
> case and were selling it by the can.
>
>
> Boyd
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
>
> *
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> *
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Wow, I bought two cans last summer, I hope the price hasn't tripled at my
plastic supply house. Dang.
Rick
do not archive
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> wrote:
> 2 kits of Plexus for $20.99
>
>
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/PLEXUS-PLASTIC-CLEANER-PROTECTANT-AND-POLISH/GP_2000740_N_111+10211+600014934_10111.jcw
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:59 AM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Not price gouging, of course!
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts, Boyd.
>>
>> That's gouging. Price for the same can, on line, from Plexus Company, is
>> 13.75.
>>
>> Maybe, we as a List, can make an extensive search to come up with a good,
>> reliable, and not too expensive source, for Plexus.
>>
>> If you have not used it, it is a miracle, especially on long cross country
>> flights. It is a pleasure to get back in the airplane after the lexan has
>> been cleaned and polished with Plexus.
>>
>> I bought a can of "generic" stuff that is supposed to do the same thing as
>> Plexus, for 10.00, somewhere in VA, but it doesn't do what Plexus does.
>> When dew or rain gets on it, after application, it streaks like crazy. Not
>> what I am looking for.
>>
>> Guess Plexus has gone the route of Rotax. Captive market, good product,
>> demand, double the price. ;-(
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* b young <by0ung@brigham.net>
>> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
>> *Sent:* Saturday, July 25, 2009 11:26 AM
>> *Subject:* Kolb-List: plexus
>>
>>
>>
>> Since it became popular, the price has gone out of sight. I found a
>> source for 10.00, 13 oz cans, but they wanted 25.00 to ship 5 cans. ;-(
>> Corresponding with them to get a better shipping fee resulted in one reply,
>> then nada.
>>
>>
>>
>> john h
>>
>> mkIII
>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just got a phone call back from the airport. They want 16.75 for a 13
>> oz aerosol can. It really has gone up.
>>
>> Or my memory on how much I paid is a bit fuzzy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Boyd
>>
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>>
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Subject: | Re: New Video of Kolb Flying Formation with Ultralight |
Trikes
Will you share that info with us, please?
Maybe, by chance, I could do business with them. Most places I come in
contact with will ship.
john h
mkIII
John, Like everything else once it gets an aviation tag the price goes
up. I get mine at a local plastic supply house for around $5.50 a can.
Rick Girard
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Thanks, Robert L:
I am ordering two kits (4 ea 13 oz cans) from JC Whitney. Shipping is
8.99. Best I have found. 4 cans will last me a little while.
If I go with 4 kits or 8 cans, shipping is free.
Decisions, decisions!
I ordered 4 kits (8 cans) and free shipping. Came out to 10.49 a can.
Makes good Xmas presents. ;-)
john h
mkIII
2 kits of Plexus for $20.99
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[quote="John Hauck"]Thanks, Robert L:
I am ordering two kits (4 ea 13 oz cans) from JC Whitney. Shipping is 8.99.
Best I have found. 4 cans will last me a little while.
If I go with 4 kits or 8 cans, shipping is free.
Decisions, decisions!
I ordered 4 kits (8 cans) and free shipping. Came out to 10.49 a can. Makes
good Xmas presents. ;-)
john h
mkIII
>
> 2 kits of Plexus for $20.99
>
> [b]
Uh oh.... I better get down to the local motorcycle place and see what they're
charging. Last 2 cans I bought were around $6 and I"ve about gone through those.
Yes since it's popular now in aviation (i've been using it for years with great
results) of course its going to skyrocket in price.... argh....
LS
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Titan II SS
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Just curious guys, if anyone else has ever taken my suggestion to use
GE MR10 LEXAN?
Lexan is a GE trademarked name. MR10 is hard coated and does not
scratch unless you hit it with a
rotating drill bit. (yup, one scratch here) Being able to rinse off
my window with windex and a paper towel
and having no adverse results is a real pleasure. I don't tempt
fate, placing a Dollar General fuzz-backed
tablecloth on it when parked but my windshield still looks like the
day I put it on.
The doors are looking good too.
Don't plan on buying any plexus.
BB
On 25, Jul 2009, at 3:11 PM, lucien wrote:
>
> [quote="John Hauck"]Thanks, Robert L:
>
> I am ordering two kits (4 ea 13 oz cans) from JC Whitney.
> Shipping is 8.99. Best I have found. 4 cans will last me a
> little while.
>
> If I go with 4 kits or 8 cans, shipping is free.
>
> Decisions, decisions!
>
> I ordered 4 kits (8 cans) and free shipping. Came out to 10.49 a
> can. Makes good Xmas presents. ;-)
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>>
>> 2 kits of Plexus for $20.99
>>
>> [b]
>
>
> Uh oh.... I better get down to the local motorcycle place and see
> what they're charging. Last 2 cans I bought were around $6 and I"ve
> about gone through those.
>
> Yes since it's popular now in aviation (i've been using it for
> years with great results) of course its going to skyrocket in
> price.... argh....
>
> LS
>
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: New Camera, Owyhee Ramblins |
Larry, you're producing some great videos! -- and what makes them
way above average is the STEADY camera. Your mount works fine.
Wonder if you'll get around to making it aim-able from the cockpit?
Everyone should use a tripod (on the ground ) but no one does.
However, everyone should steady the camera as much as possible --
lean across a car hood, lean against a phone pole or fence, use
whatever's available -- and pan slowly.
We've all found out that it's between difficult and impossible to
polish out scratches on Lexan; but if it's other plastics, like
small lens covers and even the lenses themselves, using toothpaste -
NOT gel, but paste - can be successful. It's just a fine abrasive. If
the plastic is flat, go to it; but if it's curved you will probably
change the function of the lens. Maybe slightly, maybe badly.
Toothpaste is also good for polishing the crystal of your watch, if
it's waterproof. Put paste on your thumb , wear the watch into the
shower & rub away.
Hope this helps someone
Russ K
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> Don't plan on buying any plexus.
> BB
Bob B:
The beauty of Plexus is the ease it removes bugs and other dirt and
contamination from the Lexan and painted nose cone.
On long flights, it is a blessing. Makes me feel good mentally and
physically, starting out in the morning with a fresh windshield.
Don't recommend trying to polish Lexan with anything other than Plexus.
Lexan is soft. What you are using must have a special coating on it.
john h
mkIII
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Subject: | Re: New Camera, Owyhee Ramblins |
http://yardbirdrc.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=1
04
Thanks for the compliment, sometimes I feel as though I am relieving my
self in a dark suit, you get a warm feeling, but no one notices. The
link above is for a swivel set up that you can control remotely, but
never knowing where it is pointing would give me way too many chances to
screw up. I cannot see the camera from where I sit. It is easier to use
the stick to point it to what I want to show. The reason that I got it
in the first place was so that I would have my hands free to use the
stick and throttle. When you are whizzing through a canyon at 64 MPH and
5 to 15 feet, you want to lighten your work load, and reaction time as
much as possible.
The only bad thing about the camera is that the views are not comparable
to what the human eye sees. While I want to show you guys some of the
more striking pictures of wild horses and Sheep, I am very aware that
the line between too far away and harassment is a pretty small one that
I am not anxious to cross. The horses here are herded with heli's and as
soon as they hear an engine, they run, not fast, but steady. They don't
run any faster if you are 500 feet above them or 25. Sheep seem to be
the same. The way that I find most of them is when they run, and I may
be as much as a mile away when they start. Definitely too far for any
camera to pick them out. For instance both vids of the Sheep were plain
as day to me, but hardly showed up in the camera. The last bunch on that
plateau had several that were wearing tracking collars, bet no one saw
that.
I think the damage to the lens is internal, occurring when I dropped it.
The way that I attempted to clean it tells me that if It were on the
outside, it would be gone. They are cheap for a reason, and being made
in China, I am surprised that the quality is as good as it is. The
little woman only told me not to lose it. She didn't say anything about
replacing it.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: russ kinne
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Camera, Owyhee Ramblins
Larry, you're producing some great videos! -- and what makes them
way above average is the STEADY camera. Your mount works fine.
Wonder if you'll get around to making it aim-able from the cockpit?
Everyone should use a tripod (on the ground ) but no one does.
However, everyone should steady the camera as much as possible --
lean across a car hood, lean against a phone pole or fence, use
whatever's available -- and pan slowly.
We've all found out that it's between difficult and impossible to
polish out scratches on Lexan; but if it's other plastics, like
small lens covers and even the lenses themselves, using toothpaste -
NOT gel, but paste - can be successful. It's just a fine abrasive. If
the plastic is flat, go to it; but if it's curved you will probably
change the function of the lens. Maybe slightly, maybe badly.
Toothpaste is also good for polishing the crystal of your watch, if
it's waterproof. Put paste on your thumb , wear the watch into the
shower & rub away.
Hope this helps someone
Russ K
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Cool. Stop by on the way to Sun n Fun 2010... :D
Kip
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