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1. 08:23 AM - Re: Picking up my new wings (JetPilot)
2. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Picking up my new wings (John Hauck)
3. 08:41 AM - Re: Re: Picking up my new wings (russ kinne)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: Re: Picking up my new wings (daniel myers)
5. 02:16 PM - Trip to 3 Forks (Larry Cottrell)
6. 02:45 PM - Re: Trip to 3 Forks (John Hauck)
7. 03:13 PM - Re: Trip to 3 Forks (robert bean)
8. 03:37 PM - it's always something... (robert bean)
9. 04:12 PM - Trip to 3 Forks (Larry Cottrell)
10. 04:23 PM - Re: Trip to 3 Forks (Robert Laird)
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| Subject: | Re: Picking up my new wings |
Tlongo ( To the wife of the seller ),
There are some people that will never be happy with anything, and will always mislead
others or even downright lie about what happened. I am afraid you have
run into one of these people when you sold your airplane to Ellery. I once told
Elllery in a nice way that he had made a mistake, and he came back with one
of the nastiest responses you would ever want to see. Ellery is just one of
those people you can count on being wrong or downright misrepresenting anything
he posts. While reading Ellerys account and he stated that
elleryweld(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Even the guy in his bank branch I thought was a complete a-hole like I had stolen
the check somewhere and him wanting my drivers license and signature when
all the lazy sob needed to do was Call my bank and get it verified
>
>
When I read this,I knew that Ellery most definately was still carrying around that
chip on his shoulder... He must be mad at the world... Showing ID is standard
procedure in any bank, and most definately required for any kind of large
check, even if it is real. I hope you dont think that all Kolb peole are like
this, because most are very good people. We know what Ellery is all about
here, and I am glad to see that you responded and set the record straight.
Ellery, you started this thread, and you have been posting to it publicaly and
regularulary since starting it, I dont beleive for a second that you thought you
were responding privately. It just appears to be another attempt to mislead
everyone here after being caught in your first lie.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255367#255367
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| Subject: | Re: Picking up my new wings |
Mike B:
Your post would have been better sent back copy.
The Kolb Builders List is for discussing building and flying Kolb Aircraft.
Recommend anyone wanting to reply to Mike B, please do it back copy.
Thanks for your consideration.
john h - Too wet to fly in Alabama.
mkIII
----- Original Message -----
From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 10:22 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Picking up my new wings
>
> Tlongo ( To the wife of the seller ),
>
> There are some people that will never be happy with anything, and will
> always mislead others or even downright lie about what happened. I am
> afraid you have run into one of these people when you sold your airplane
> to Ellery. I once told Elllery in a nice way that he had made a mistake,
> and he came back with one of the nastiest responses you would ever want to
> see. Ellery is just one of those people you can count on being wrong or
> downright misrepresenting anything he posts. While reading Ellerys
> account and he stated that
>
>
> elleryweld(at)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Even the guy in his bank branch I thought was a complete a-hole like I
>> had stolen the check somewhere and him wanting my drivers license and
>> signature when all the lazy sob needed to do was Call my bank and get it
>> verified
>>
>>
>
>
> When I read this,I knew that Ellery most definately was still carrying
> around that chip on his shoulder... He must be mad at the world...
> Showing ID is standard procedure in any bank, and most definately required
> for any kind of large check, even if it is real. I hope you dont think
> that all Kolb peole are like this, because most are very good people. We
> know what Ellery is all about here, and I am glad to see that you
> responded and set the record straight.
>
> Ellery, you started this thread, and you have been posting to it publicaly
> and regularulary since starting it, I dont beleive for a second that you
> thought you were responding privately. It just appears to be another
> attempt to mislead everyone here after being caught in your first lie.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you
> could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255367#255367
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Picking up my new wings |
TO EVERYONE ON THIS LIST:
PLEASE STOP THIS BICKERING!
Thanx
On Jul 31, 2009, at 11:22 AM, JetPilot wrote:
>
> Tlongo ( To the wife of the seller ),
>
> There are some people that will never be happy with anything, and
> will always mislead others or even downright lie about what
> happened. I am afraid you have run into one of these people when
> you sold your airplane to Ellery. I once told Elllery in a nice
> way that he had made a mistake, and he came back with one of the
> nastiest responses you would ever want to see. Ellery is just one
> of those people you can count on being wrong or downright
> misrepresenting anything he posts. While reading Ellerys account
> and he stated that
>
>
> elleryweld(at)aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>> Even the guy in his bank branch I thought was a complete a-hole
>> like I had stolen the check somewhere and him wanting my drivers
>> license and signature when all the lazy sob needed to do was Call
>> my bank and get it verified
>>
>>
>
>
> When I read this,I knew that Ellery most definately was still
> carrying around that chip on his shoulder... He must be mad at the
> world... Showing ID is standard procedure in any bank, and most
> definately required for any kind of large check, even if it is
> real. I hope you dont think that all Kolb peole are like this,
> because most are very good people. We know what Ellery is all
> about here, and I am glad to see that you responded and set the
> record straight.
>
> Ellery, you started this thread, and you have been posting to it
> publicaly and regularulary since starting it, I dont beleive for a
> second that you thought you were responding privately. It just
> appears to be another attempt to mislead everyone here after being
> caught in your first lie.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast
> as you could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255367#255367
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Picking up my new wings |
Just stop. I come on here to read about planes=2C not to hear people talkin
g about one another
daniel myers
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Picking up my new wings
> From: orcabonita@hotmail.com
> Date: Fri=2C 31 Jul 2009 08:22:37 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Tlongo ( To the wife of the seller )=2C
>
> There are some people that will never be happy with anything=2C and will
always mislead others or even downright lie about what happened. I am afra
id you have run into one of these people when you sold your airplane to Ell
ery. I once told Elllery in a nice way that he had made a mistake=2C and h
e came back with one of the nastiest responses you would ever want to see.
Ellery is just one of those people you can count on being wrong or downrig
ht misrepresenting anything he posts. While reading Ellerys account and h
e stated that
>
>
> elleryweld(at)aol.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Even the guy in his bank branch I thought was a complete a-hole like I
had stolen the check somewhere and him wanting my drivers license and sign
ature when all the lazy sob needed to do was Call my bank and get it verif
ied
> >
> >
>
>
> When I read this=2CI knew that Ellery most definately was still carrying
around that chip on his shoulder... He must be mad at the world... Showing
ID is standard procedure in any bank=2C and most definately required for a
ny kind of large check=2C even if it is real. I hope you dont think that
all Kolb peole are like this=2C because most are very good people. We kno
w what Ellery is all about here=2C and I am glad to see that you responded
and set the record straight.
>
> Ellery=2C you started this thread=2C and you have been posting to it publ
icaly and regularulary since starting it=2C I dont beleive for a second tha
t you thought you were responding privately. It just appears to be anothe
r attempt to mislead everyone here after being caught in your first lie.
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "=3BNO FEAR"=3B - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as
you could have !!!
>
> Kolb MK-III Xtra=2C 912-S
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255367#255367
>
>
>
>
>
>
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I got my new camera yesterday, so this morning I got up at 0530, and
reheated a cup of coffee then went out and rolled Dart out of the
hanger. Did a preflight, and did my best to still a "premonition". I
finally decided that I was being a bit foolish. The morning was
absolutely beautiful and there was no wind. I determined to go and be as
careful as I could.
The camera is not designed for early morning light, so the white balance
is off and a lot of the video shows up a bit red. My flight line was
between Big Grassy Mtn. and Jackie's Butte, and it is about 39 miles to
Three Forks. As I got close to Big Grassy I could see that the ranchers
had all the water pipes working and there were water tanks spotted here
and there along the range. I was about 500 feet or more above the ground
as the terrain rises to about 5000 feet just before Three Forks. I
looked out about a half mile and I could see dust, lots of it. As I got
closer, I could see a really large herd of wild horses. This bunch stays
out in that area all year long, and the last time that I saw it, was
much bigger. I estimated about 50 to 75 horses in the herd.
I flew down into the canyon at the hot springs and followed the river
all the way to Rome. I did come up out of the canyon after the pucker
factor built up to unendurable and climbed high enough to at least get
to the rim if an engine out were to occur. The Canyon is deep enough
that my GPS could not see enough satellites to register. The video's are
cut up into 6 segments, and none of the flight was edited out. There is
about 30 some miles of canyon between Three Forks and Rome.
After coming out of the canyon, I lined out for home. When I got within
3/4 of a mile of the end of the runway, my engine began to slow down. I
had forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the engine was leaning
out and dying. I was about 200 feet above the ground and just past
Crooked Creek. I tried to turn it rich enough for the engine to catch,
but was unable to do so. As the engine died, I turned 180 degrees and
established my glide to 50 MPH. There is a open spot that is smoother
than the runway that I use at the house. Since this is a maneuver that I
have had to do before and practiced for just this situation, landing was
no big deal. Once on the ground and adjustments were made, the engine
fired right up again. I turned and took off once more and continued on
to the house and made my landing with no problem. Once on the ground, I
gave appropriate thanks that I was safe and I didn't have to rebuild the
plane again. I assure you, of all the places for me to screw up and get
forced to land, I could not have picked a better spot.
However, I was not out of the woods yet. Karen had gone outside to watch
me land, and heard the engine stammer and saw me turn and go down out of
sight. When I restarted the engine, she had called me on the radio and
asked if I was all right, to which I replied affirmative! When I got in
the house it was a bit chilly. After a bit she told me "Don't do that
again". I most fervently replied that I would do my best to never repeat
that episode again.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to 3 Forks |
Usually, when a four stroke screws up it is because we do something to scre
w it up.
Glad you made a good forced landing.
I don't understand:
"I had forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the engine was leaning o
ut and dying."
Does that mean you forgot to turn it back to rull rich?
john h
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Trip to 3 Forks
I got my new camera yesterday, so this morning I got up at 0530, and rehe
ated a cup of coffee then went out and rolled Dart out of the hanger. Did a
preflight, and did my best to still a "premonition". I finally decided tha
t I was being a bit foolish. The morning was absolutely beautiful and there
was no wind. I determined to go and be as careful as I could.
The camera is not designed for early morning light, so the white balance
is off and a lot of the video shows up a bit red. My flight line was betwee
n Big Grassy Mtn. and Jackie's Butte, and it is about 39 miles to Three For
ks. As I got close to Big Grassy I could see that the ranchers had all the
water pipes working and there were water tanks spotted here and there along
the range. I was about 500 feet or more above the ground as the terrain ri
ses to about 5000 feet just before Three Forks. I looked out about a half m
ile and I could see dust, lots of it. As I got closer, I could see a really
large herd of wild horses. This bunch stays out in that area all year long
, and the last time that I saw it, was much bigger. I estimated about 50 to
75 horses in the herd.
I flew down into the canyon at the hot springs and followed the river all
the way to Rome. I did come up out of the canyon after the pucker factor b
uilt up to unendurable and climbed high enough to at least get to the rim i
f an engine out were to occur. The Canyon is deep enough that my GPS could
not see enough satellites to register. The video's are cut up into 6 segme
nts, and none of the flight was edited out. There is about 30 some miles of
canyon between Three Forks and Rome.
After coming out of the canyon, I lined out for home. When I got within 3
/4 of a mile of the end of the runway, my engine began to slow down. I had
forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the engine was leaning out and
dying. I was about 200 feet above the ground and just past Crooked Creek. I
tried to turn it rich enough for the engine to catch, but was unable to do
so. As the engine died, I turned 180 degrees and established my glide to 5
0 MPH. There is a open spot that is smoother than the runway that I use at
the house. Since this is a maneuver that I have had to do before and practi
ced for just this situation, landing was no big deal. Once on the ground an
d adjustments were made, the engine fired right up again. I turned and took
off once more and continued on to the house and made my landing with no pr
oblem. Once on the ground, I gave appropriate thanks that I was safe and I
didn't have to rebuild the plane again. I assure you, of all the places for
me to screw up and get forced to land, I could not have picked a better sp
ot.
However, I was not out of the woods yet. Karen had gone outside to watch
me land, and heard the engine stammer and saw me turn and go down out of si
ght. When I restarted the engine, she had called me on the radio and asked
if I was all right, to which I replied affirmative! When I got in the house
it was a bit chilly. After a bit she told me "Don't do that again". I most
fervently replied that I would do my best to never repeat that episode aga
in.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to 3 Forks |
nice story Larry. Pix are good enhancements.
BB
On 31, Jul 2009, at 4:59 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> I got my new camera yesterday, so this morning I got up at 0530,
> and reheated a cup of coffee then went out and rolled Dart out of
> the hanger. Did a preflight, and did my best to still a
> "premonition". I finally decided that I was being a bit foolish.
> The morning was absolutely beautiful and there was no wind. I
> determined to go and be as careful as I could.
> <3B214F180A3240F48677CB2003A15F16>
>
> <B44BF8D581B14652A2A842D3C4B2FBE3>
>
>
> The camera is not designed for early morning light, so the white
> balance is off and a lot of the video shows up a bit red. My flight
> line was between Big Grassy Mtn. and Jackie's Butte, and it is
> about 39 miles to Three Forks. As I got close to Big Grassy I could
> see that the ranchers had all the water pipes working and there
> were water tanks spotted here and there along the range. I was
> about 500 feet or more above the ground as the terrain rises to
> about 5000 feet just before Three Forks. I looked out about a half
> mile and I could see dust, lots of it. As I got closer, I could see
> a really large herd of wild horses. This bunch stays out in that
> area all year long, and the last time that I saw it, was much
> bigger. I estimated about 50 to 75 horses in the herd.
>
> I flew down into the canyon at the hot springs and followed the
> river all the way to Rome. I did come up out of the canyon after
> the pucker factor built up to unendurable and climbed high enough
> to at least get to the rim if an engine out were to occur. The
> Canyon is deep enough that my GPS could not see enough satellites
> to register. The video's are cut up into 6 segments, and none of
> the flight was edited out. There is about 30 some miles of canyon
> between Three Forks and Rome.
>
> After coming out of the canyon, I lined out for home. When I got
> within 3/4 of a mile of the end of the runway, my engine began to
> slow down. I had forgotten to turn off the HACman system and the
> engine was leaning out and dying. I was about 200 feet above the
> ground and just past Crooked Creek. I tried to turn it rich enough
> for the engine to catch, but was unable to do so. As the engine
> died, I turned 180 degrees and established my glide to 50 MPH.
> There is a open spot that is smoother than the runway that I use at
> the house. Since this is a maneuver that I have had to do before
> and practiced for just this situation, landing was no big deal.
> Once on the ground and adjustments were made, the engine fired
> right up again. I turned and took off once more and continued on to
> the house and made my landing with no problem. Once on the ground,
> I gave appropriate thanks that I was safe and I didn't have to
> rebuild the plane again. I assure you, of all the places for me to
> screw up and get forced to land, I could not have picked a better
> spot.
>
> However, I was not out of the woods yet. Karen had gone outside to
> watch me land, and heard the engine stammer and saw me turn and go
> down out of sight. When I restarted the engine, she had called me
> on the radio and asked if I was all right, to which I replied
> affirmative! When I got in the house it was a bit chilly. After a
> bit she told me "Don't do that again". I most fervently replied
> that I would do my best to never repeat that episode again.
> Larry
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| Subject: | it's always something... |
OK guys, I've been farting around with my fuel system for much too
long. Bought more fuel pumps at a higher press rating,
removed the regulator, had fuel dripping from the carb after landing
(after a really nice ride)
Decided to replace the regulator and put a temporary gauge in to see
what is really going on.
Mistake #1: do not buy a cheapo tee and gauge from auto zone/advance/
pep boyz, etc
The plastic tee was ok but the chinee
bourdon tube in the gauge was a gusher
took it back for a refund
all I wanted was a temporary reading
bought a real brass 1/8" tee, turned two mini barb fittings from a
nipple on my lathe
Ran a remote line of space age 1/4" super tube past a mini valve to
an ultra strong 30 lb gauge with built in snubber
(facet pumps give a really jerky reading until pressure limit)
Tried to hook up the mess.
black (NAPA/Gates/??? hose started splitting at attempts to slide on
the fittings.
This stuff is about 6 years old.
Gave up in disgust and made myself a taco salad
Then I did some research:
the old SAE 30R6 black hose was dandy for gasoline but is not rated
for ethanol and/or "sour oxidized gas"
SAE 30R9 is overkill, rated for a working pressure of 100 lbs/burst
900, ethanol compatible
(really nice stuff though)
SAE 30R7 appears to be the correct application for non-FI, carbureted
systems.
working press 50/ burst 250
now to see if I can find some.
BB
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My last video is now uploading and almost done. Some of them are without
sound as the music that I put with them was under copy write. I will try
to later change the music, but for now what you see is what you see. If
you go to YouTube and search for larry6080m you will be able to see
them.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to 3 Forks |
Slightly non-Kolb, but, check this out, Larry:
http://www.masternewmedia.org/audio_music_publishing/music-for-video/where-to-find-free-music-for-video-and-podcasts-20070722.htm
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>wrote:
> My last video is now uploading and almost done. Some of them are without
> sound as the music that I put with them was under copy write. I will try to
> later change the music, but for now what you see is what you see. If you go
> to YouTube and search for larry6080m you will be able to see them.
> Larry
>
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>
> *
>
>
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