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1. 04:29 AM - Re: Re: First Flight follow-up, (Eugene Zimmerman)
2. 04:48 AM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (loseyf@comcast.net)
3. 04:52 AM - Re: Re: First Flight follow-up, (robert bean)
4. 06:25 AM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (John Hauck)
5. 07:12 AM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (russ kinne)
6. 03:28 PM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (Eugene Zimmerman)
7. 03:41 PM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (John Hauck)
8. 04:39 PM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (Eugene Zimmerman)
9. 07:48 PM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (John Hauck)
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Subject: | Re: First Flight follow-up, |
Bob,
I suppose it is all matter of personal perspective, or individual
plane. Compared to my old Pterodactyl (which flapped its wings like a
pigeon) my Firestar is solid as a rock.
Eugene Z
On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:05 PM, robert bean wrote:
>
> Hi Eugene, yes, I know it's not in the dictionary. Maybe the other
> models don't feel the same way since I
> have no experience with them. In cruise I can feel the differential
> waves of air caused by the variable airflow
> from the aft section of the fuselage. -Xtras may not have as much
> because of the smoother blend behind the doors.
> In addition is the wiggle provided by the boom tube and tail
> assembly. Maybe my boom tube is more flexible than most?
> Just kidding.
>
> That feel is what prevents me from getting friskier with the flight
> envelope. I know it isn't a defect or problem with structural
> integrity but it does affect my mental attitude.
>
> Each brand of airplane has an individual feel. Cessnas are sloppier
> than tube frame airplanes. Some big widebodies feel like
> a whale wubbling through the sky. (747 for sure)
> The Taylorcraft, even with its very long wings is a nice tight
> feeling ship. Citabrias feel solid as a rock. They impart
> a sense of security that may or may not be warranted. They have had
> a few root rib failures when overstressed.
>
> Couldn't say about Stardusters, Christen Eagles or Pitts, never was
> rich enough to afford one but I imagine the Pitts feels
> pretty solid.
> BB
>
> On 21, Aug 2009, at 9:47 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:53 PM, robert bean wrote:
>>
>>> One of the things that I suppose I will never get used to is the
>>> inherent "wiggleness" of the MkIII as it proceeds
>>> through the air. I know that is part of the plane but after so
>>> many years in a totally rigid airframe it will always feel
>>> different.
>>
>>
>> Huh? "wiggleness" ? On a Kolb?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alaska 2004 Photo |
John just curious if you flew the Al-Can up and back
or did you fly the coastline one way?
When I flew the PA28 Arrow up and back a few years
ago, went Port Angeles WA, Ketchikan, Juneau, Kodiak, Homer
...then Fairbanks around the back side home.. Spectacular
scenery, surely one the most cherished trips of my lif
e!! I would love to do this again in the future....I
appreciate your inspiration. Got a lot of building ahead
first.
I hope this next trip you can mount a camera and capt
ure for all who have not experienced the magnificence of
this incredible place.
Cheers to all from London!
Fran Losey
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Alaska 2004 Photo
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Subject: | Re: First Flight follow-up, |
One last thing before the groans start. -My two blade prop throws in
more uneven racket than the
three blade powerfin did. I'm sure the airflow is different because
of it too.
BB
On 22, Aug 2009, at 7:28 AM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> I suppose it is all matter of personal perspective, or individual
> plane. Compared to my old Pterodactyl (which flapped its wings
> like a pigeon) my Firestar is solid as a rock.
>
> Eugene Z
>
>
> On Aug 21, 2009, at 11:05 PM, robert bean wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Eugene, yes, I know it's not in the dictionary. Maybe the
>> other models don't feel the same way since I
>> have no experience with them. In cruise I can feel the
>> differential waves of air caused by the variable airflow
>> from the aft section of the fuselage. -Xtras may not have as much
>> because of the smoother blend behind the doors.
>> In addition is the wiggle provided by the boom tube and tail
>> assembly. Maybe my boom tube is more flexible than most?
>> Just kidding.
>>
>> That feel is what prevents me from getting friskier with the
>> flight envelope. I know it isn't a defect or problem with structural
>> integrity but it does affect my mental attitude.
>>
>> Each brand of airplane has an individual feel. Cessnas are
>> sloppier than tube frame airplanes. Some big widebodies feel like
>> a whale wubbling through the sky. (747 for sure)
>> The Taylorcraft, even with its very long wings is a nice tight
>> feeling ship. Citabrias feel solid as a rock. They impart
>> a sense of security that may or may not be warranted. They have
>> had a few root rib failures when overstressed.
>>
>> Couldn't say about Stardusters, Christen Eagles or Pitts, never
>> was rich enough to afford one but I imagine the Pitts feels
>> pretty solid.
>> BB
>>
>> On 21, Aug 2009, at 9:47 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 21, 2009, at 8:53 PM, robert bean wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of the things that I suppose I will never get used to is the
>>>> inherent "wiggleness" of the MkIII as it proceeds
>>>> through the air. I know that is part of the plane but after so
>>>> many years in a totally rigid airframe it will always feel
>>>> different.
>>>
>>>
>>> Huh? "wiggleness" ? On a Kolb?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alaska 2004 Photo |
To much water and weather for a single engine VFR homebuilt experimental
to fly the inside passage.
I have flown north and south, the Alaska Highway, Stewart-Cassiar
Highway, Klondike Highway, Dempster Highway, and the Dalton Highway.
Each highway is an adventure in itself.
Then...we (me and Miss P'Fer, my MKIII) have flown beyond the Dalton and
the Dempster Highways to the northernmost point of the North American
Continent at Point Barrow, Alaska, and Tuktoyaktuk, Northwest Territory,
northernmost Eskimo Village on the North American Continent in Canada.
Both places a long ways from Alabama.
Makes me tired thinking about it.
Couple photos, one north of Point Barrow looking south to the North
American Continent, and the other is a aerial view of Tuktoyaktuk,
Northwest Territory, Canada.
john h
mkIII
John just curious if you flew the Al-Can up and back or did you fly
the coastline one way?
Fran Losey
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Subject: | Re: Alaska 2004 Photo |
John's flights to Alaska still make me drool, always did. What grand
adventures they must have been!
I doubt anyone could see RUS from Wales, but when in Gambell, (St
Lawrence I) we could see the mountains of the Chukchi peninsula. Got
within 30 mi of the RUS coast, but in a Umiak, not an aircraft. No
problem, everyone looks the same in parkas, natives & visitors alike.
do not archive
On Aug 21, 2009, at 10:05 PM, WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com wrote:
> John h,
>
> Is Wales the point from which Sarah Palin said she could see Russia
> from? Wow! You flew to Barrow! That's almost out of this world.
> Great job. Great pics. You can see the curvature of the earth,
> errrr, I mean the ocean.
>
> Bill Varnes
> Original Kolb FireStar
> Audubon NJ
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> In a message dated 8/21/2009 10:20:06 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> jhauck@elmore.rr.com writes:
> If I had had the courage and capability to fly the Alaskan coast
> southwest
> to Wales, AK, I would have been 50 miles from Russia.
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alaska 2004 Photo |
John,
If you flew as far south as you did north, where could you have
possibly been?
Gene Z
On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:05 AM, John Hauck wrote:
> To much water and weather for a single engine VFR homebuilt
> experimental to fly the inside passage.
>
> I have flown north and south, the Alaska Highway, Stewart-Cassiar
> Highway, Klondike Highway, Dempster Highway, and the Dalton
> Highway. Each highway is an adventure in itself.
>
> Then...we (me and Miss P'Fer, my MKIII) have flown beyond the Dalton
> and the Dempster Highways to the northernmost point of the North
> American Continent at Point Barrow, Alaska, and Tuktoyaktuk,
> Northwest Territory, northernmost Eskimo Village on the North
> American Continent in Canada. Both places a long ways from Alabama.
>
> Makes me tired thinking about it.
>
> Couple photos, one north of Point Barrow looking south to the North
> American Continent, and the other is a aerial view of Tuktoyaktuk,
> Northwest Territory, Canada.
>
> john h
> mkIII
>
>
> John just curious if you flew the Al-Can up and back or did you fly
> the coastline one way?
>
>
> Fran Losey
>
> <DSCF1579-1.jpg><DCSF1391-1.jpg>
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Subject: | Re: Alaska 2004 Photo |
A quick map recon shows the northern border of Argentina, straight line
distance of about 4,000 miles.
john h
If you flew as far south as you did north, where could you have
possibly been?
Gene Z
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Subject: | Re: Alaska 2004 Photo |
John,
And to think Charles Lindbergh flew almost that distance nonstop back
in 1927. Wow!
Gene Z
On Aug 22, 2009, at 6:41 PM, John Hauck wrote:
> A quick map recon shows the northern border of Argentina, straight
> line distance of about 4,000 miles.
>
> john h
> If you flew as far south as you did north, where could you have
> possibly been?
>
> Gene Z
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Alaska 2004 Photo |
Yes, it is truly amazing that Lindbergh was able to accomplish that
flight.
He took off with 450 gallons of fuel, flew about 3500 miles, in 33
hours, 30 minutes. The aircraft had an ultimate range of 4000 miles.
2700 lbs of fuel is a heck of a load.
Here is a good web site for Lindbergh. I did realize, until I read it,
but the Spirit of St Louis did a lot of flying after the record solo
flight.
http://www.charleslindbergh.com/history/paris.asp
I could have done it on 233.3 gal in about 43 hours, if I could haul
1400 lbs of fuel. ;-)
john h
mkIII
And to think Charles Lindbergh flew almost that distance nonstop back
in 1927. Wow!
Gene Z
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