---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/23/09: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:06 AM - Re: Re: First Flight follow-up, (pj.ladd) 2. 02:06 AM - Re: Alaska 2004 Photo (loseyf@comcast.net) 3. 02:06 AM - Re: Re: First Flight follow-up, (pj.ladd) 4. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: First Flight follow-up, (robert bean) 5. 06:36 AM - Re: Re: First Flight follow-up, (John Hauck) 6. 10:59 AM - Re: Re: Mike have no fear fuel filter. and morning flight (pj.ladd) 7. 11:17 AM - Kolb attended fly-in (zeprep251@aol.com) 8. 11:19 AM - Steak and eggs (zeprep251@aol.com) 9. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: Mike have no fear fuel filter. (pj.ladd) 10. 11:34 AM - Re: Kolb attended fly-in (zeprep251@aol.com) 11. 12:19 PM - Re: Re: First Flight follow-up, (pj.ladd) 12. 01:39 PM - Videos of yesterday's flight in Miami (Watkinsdw) 13. 07:01 PM - Re: Kolb attended fly-in (cristalclear13) 14. 07:14 PM - Re: Videos of yesterday's flight in Miami (cristalclear13) 15. 07:27 PM - Re: Just plain ol' Waycross (cristalclear13) 16. 07:47 PM - Re: Videos of yesterday's flight in Miami (JetPilot) 17. 07:51 PM - Cockpit controlled trim -FS2 - Thank you (Mahesh Iyer) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:37 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: First Flight follow-up, inherent "wiggleness" of the MkIII >> Hi Robert, you had better have a walk round with a spanner and a screwdriver. No `wiggleness` in mine. Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:38 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Alaska 2004 Photo From: loseyf@comcast.net Great photos John! Thanks for sharing them. I was not so fortunate to have the blue skies I see in the photos..... I couldn't agree more with your weather comment, even with forecasts, the weather always seemed worse than predicted and changed rapidly many times, especially on the West Coastal area. I certainly respect the folks that fly in this Region. Alaska was my first experience where I was asked to "declare my option" on approach.... I scratched my head for a moment then humbled myself to ask, as I had no idea what the tower was asking. "Water, turf or concrete" was the response and concrete my choice. Take care Fran Losey Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Alaska 2004 Photo This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:06:41 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: First Flight follow-up, but my MKIII requires coordinated use of rudder and ailerons to make it fly well.>> Most small a/c need that. It is only those who learned to fly in spam cans that don`t use co ordinated rudder. Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:09 AM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: First Flight follow-up, You mean the rivet heads AREN'T supposed to be spinning around? Oh well, more duct tape is in order I guess. I tried some experimental video yesterday. -An old VHS mini cam on a stalk, put in the axle hole of a wheelbarrow tire, bungeed to the seat. Worked pretty good but I need to aim it up a touch more for the right flight attitude. BB On 23, Aug 2009, at 5:02 AM, pj.ladd wrote: > > inherent "wiggleness" of the MkIII >> > > Hi Robert, > > you had better have a walk round with a spanner and a screwdriver. > No `wiggleness` in mine. > > Pat > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:39 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: First Flight follow-up, > Most small a/c need that. It is only those who learned to fly in spam cans > that don`t use co ordinated rudder. > > Pat Patrick: The older model MKIIIx requires a lot more rudder to fly coordinated than the other model Kolbs. I believe this is caused by the long, large, flat nose. When the aircraft gets a little out of yaw trim, relative wind tends to pull the nose further out of trim. Most Kolbs will do quite well flying with ailerons only. Homer did a good job of designing the differential into the system to prevent adverse aileron control. I have never flown a Kolb that could be flown with rudder alone, more than a very short time. When they begin to roll, rudder alone will not pick up tyhe wing. Because they lack any significant dihedral, if you lose aileron control, be nice to have a parachute. I am only aware of one Kolb that lost aileron control, my Ultrastar. That was caused by a catastrophic failure of the upper aileron bellcrank, the little one right over your right shoulder, not the big one attached to the boom tube. john h mkIII ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:54 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mike have no fear fuel filter. and morning flight . Oh, my plans didn't specify what filter to use,>> Hi Larry, neither did mine. I used the same type of filter I used on my Thruster and then on my Challenger, now on the Kolb.. It works, it is simple. A glass tube with the fuel going in one end and out of the other. It comes to pieces with a spanner. You can see if there is muck in it. Why change it? Fit another one. Why?. It is not that we are not allowed to change things, not even the number of sheets of toilet paper, we can. Not with the ease of your system I agree. It is just that Kolbs designed a plane with certain characteristics. Safety, dependability,ease of maintenance, etc., They have more experience with the plane and its foibles and needs than almost any one Kolb pilot. Then along comes a pilot who may or may not know what he is doing and `improves` it. According to the posts on this list usually with the cheapest bit of kit he can get . He will change the oil which is recommended by the maker for something cheaper, usually automotive oil, change the make of the plugs. Change the size of the fuel tank without doing a weight and balance. From the posts here some pilots don`t know where the c of g is, or where it should be. That is frightening. If John H says that he has changed something on his plane 500 hours ago and so and so is the result then we could all make a judgement on it. Unfortunately there seem to be some on the list who just change things on a whim for very little reason apart from the fact that they can. I remember the airplane designers creed. `Add lightness and simplify` Thats good enough for me. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:17:49 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb attended fly-in From: zeprep251@aol.com Once a year Ed Yasechko hosts a free fly-in steak and eggs breakfast.Honest.here are some picts from this Sundays event.Ed is the guy in the white shirt in the first pict.Some nice folks up north in Oh. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:16 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Steak and eggs From: zeprep251@aol.com A couple more picts ?G.Aman Mk-3C ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:05 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mike have no fear fuel filter. Flying into hangers doesn't count. Glad you got your bird fixed and flying again. Especially glad you did not get hurt in the process of experimenting with hanger flying.>> Great John, that made me laugh out loud. I wasn`t really having a little dig at the reasoned and well thought out changes that experienced people like you make and my point about Kolb knowing more than anyone else was precisely beacause they get feed back from customers. My beef was about those who go on...and on....and on about the oil they use etc. Just anything except what the manufacturer specified.For what gain? 10 cents. Its great that you can experiment and I wish we had a little more leeway sometimes. In fact we now have a very light weight category where we can do just that but it does not include Kolbs. If you post on the list that you have built a gismo that added 15mph to your cruise I should listen with interest. But I am not going overboard because you have changed the type of plug you use in the face of the makers recommendation to save a buck every 500 klicks particularly if it starts a thread that goes on for a couple of weeks. Still chuckling Pat ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:34:02 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb attended fly-in From: zeprep251@aol.com Sorry, This is Ed in white shirt.Almost 50 aircraft attended including a Medivac helicopter ?? and crew -----Original Message----- From: zeprep251@aol.com Sent: Sun, Aug 23, 2009 2:17 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb attended fly-in Once a year Ed Yasechko hosts a free fly-in steak and eggs breakfast.Honest.here are some picts from this Sundays event.Ed is the guy in the white shirt in the first pict.Some nice folks up north in Oh. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:19:08 PM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: First Flight follow-up, The older model MKIIIx requires a lot more rudder to fly coordinated than the other model Kolbs. >> Hi John, My Xtra, like my Challenger before takes a lot of hard work to to go into a turn with no rudder. In fact someone on this list said that they nearly flew into the ground in their Challenger through trying to reverse a bank without using rudder. People who learn to fly in planes with bigger engines just don`t seem to worry about the inefficiency of turning with no rudder. If you learn in gliders you soon learn that an unbalanced turn costs you height, which is your fuel. I cannot hiold a wing up with the rudder for more than a few seconds. About enough to quickly make a note of a temp. or pressure reading perhaps. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:39:13 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Videos of yesterday's flight in Miami From: "Watkinsdw" Greetings, Folks, Jeff and I flew our new (5 months) MKIII-C down the coast from KPMP to Key Biscayne, did a low pass at Homestead Air Reserve Base (started to fall asleep after the first two miles of concrete,) and over to X51, where Mike (Jet Pilot) lives. Missed Mike, since he and his mates were off to the Keys for the day, but we did try out my inadequate digital camera on the way back up the beach. Thought it might be fun for you to check out. The buildings were cool, but I think due to the Lexan and the lens, we got a lot of shimmery polarizing lines. Still fun, and a great flight! Enjoy, Dave and Jeff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP9YB4hoM9Q (If this link doesn't work, search "S. FL Skyline from Kolb" There are several other clips from the flight. My Youtube handle is "Sabbatical100". Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259197#259197 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:07 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb attended fly-in From: "cristalclear13" zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote: > Once a year Ed Yasechko hosts a free fly-in steak and eggs breakfast.Honest.here are some picts from this Sundays event.Ed is the guy in the white shirt in the first pict.Some nice folks up north in Oh. I hope that's not champagne in those glasses, and if it is I hope the pilots came with a "designated driver". [Shocked] -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259226#259226 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:44 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Videos of yesterday's flight in Miami From: "cristalclear13" Watkinsdw wrote: > Greetings, Folks, > Jeff and I flew our new (5 months) MKIII-C down the coast from KPMP to Key Biscayne, did a low pass at Homestead Air Reserve Base (started to fall asleep after the first two miles of concrete,) and over to X51, where Mike (Jet Pilot) lives. Missed Mike, since he and his mates were off to the Keys for the day, but we did try out my inadequate digital camera on the way back up the beach. Thought it might be fun for you to check out. > > The buildings were cool, but I think due to the Lexan and the lens, we got a lot of shimmery polarizing lines. > Still fun, and a great flight! > > Enjoy, > > Dave and Jeff > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP9YB4hoM9Q > > (If this link doesn't work, search "S. FL Skyline from Kolb" > There are several other clips from the flight. My Youtube handle is "Sabbatical100". That looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for the video. Looking at that area on skyvector.com it looks very busy with class B and class C airspace all over, but I suppose you were underneath all that. What are those green and red dots on your windshield? -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259227#259227 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:27:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Just plain ol' Waycross From: "cristalclear13" John Bickham wrote: > Ms. Crystal, > > Always enjoy and appreciate Kolb flying pictures. I too am back to flying over "just" pine trees and sugar cane fields. > > We are expected a cold front to move this weekend that should cool things off and increase the visibility for us. Going get fuel for the weekend. > > Keep the pics of "plain ol Waycross" coming. > > do not archive Thanks John. It finally cooled off here today. It was still ninety degrees but the humidity was a lot lower (and no afternoon thunderstorms today!). I flew for an hour today. It was pretty bumpy, but I just couldn't resist the view/beautiful day. We don't have any EAA chapter here so I've been organizing a monthly Food and Fun meeting for all the pilots to get together at the airport at the same time for some food, fun, and hanger talk. The gyrocopters usually give us a little show. One of the guys has a "Waycross Airport Bums" website (http://www.btconline.net/~sportpilot/bums/bums.html) and has added the pictures there. Check out the pictures of the planes that were either parked on the ramp or flew in: http://btconline.net/~sportpilot/bums/party.html You'll see two links, one for July and one for August. My plane is in the August link. -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259231#259231 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:25 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Videos of yesterday's flight in Miami From: "JetPilot" Really great video Dave and Jeff. For being fairly new in their Kolb, they are doing some great flying. I have been doing all my filming of birds, gators, and everglades and it never even occurred to me to do a beach and video of the South Florida Skyline like Dave did. I have to give him an A for creativity ! Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259233#259233 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:19 PM PST US From: Mahesh Iyer Subject: Kolb-List: Cockpit controlled trim -FS2 - Thank you Gentlemen, Thank you everyone for all your replies,-help and guidance that you offer ed. I have now got something to start upon! - Best regards, Mahesh Iyer Kolb FS-2, Powered by a Rotax 503 DCDI, Driven by a 3 blade IVO Prop.. 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