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1. 03:16 AM - Fuel Filter List Clutter (funderp47)
2. 03:41 AM - Re: Re: New Kolb Group , free site (pj.ladd)
3. 04:22 AM - Re: Re: Wingtips (pj.ladd)
4. 04:42 AM - Re: Re: Wingtips (Jack B. Hart)
5. 05:32 AM - Re: Fuel Filter List Clutter (robert bean)
6. 05:51 AM - Re: Re: Wingtips (Richard Girard)
7. 05:53 AM - Re: Fuel Filter List Clutter (John Hauck)
8. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: Wingtips (russ kinne)
9. 06:36 AM - Re: Plain ol South Louisian flying pics (cristalclear13)
10. 07:13 AM - Re: New Kolb Group , free site (Richard Pike)
11. 09:44 AM - Firestar II vs Slingshot Kolbra (dalewhelan)
12. 12:09 PM - Re: Re: Wingtips (zeprep251@aol.com)
13. 12:09 PM - Update on Verner 1400 (Steve Simmons)
14. 02:43 PM - Re: Fuel Filter List Clutter (chris davis)
15. 02:51 PM - powered and unpowered weights (Masqqqqqqq@aol.com)
16. 04:04 PM - Rotax 912S worth it? (albertakolbmk3)
17. 04:28 PM - Re: Rotax 912S worth it? (John Hauck)
18. 05:24 PM - Re: Rotax 912S worth it? (albertakolbmk3)
19. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Rotax 912S worth it? (John Hauck)
20. 06:39 PM - Re: Rotax 912S worth it? (John Bickham)
21. 06:55 PM - Re: Rotax 912S worth it? (R Harris)
22. 07:06 PM - Re: powered and unpowered weights (Richard Girard)
23. 07:10 PM - turnbuckles and aircraft hardware (Mike Welch)
24. 10:56 PM - Sedona fly inn (dalewhelan)
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| Subject: | Fuel Filter List Clutter |
I feel kinda guilty. I replied to Bob Bean (I think) in this thread about his
fuel filter to simply provide differences in construction of the plastic filters.
My post was followed by the 80 dollar MUST use my filter tirade quoting
my post and other threads about filters that seemed to grow into general civil
unrest.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=61345&highlight
I read the very strong reply to my post that was quoted and paid it no more attention
than channel changing through the opinionated word garbage channels on
satellite tv. I think of it as the Jerry Springerization of America.
If some people are as word ugly in person as they appear on these lists, then I
am just happy that I don't have to be around them in daily life.
Retired, flying a non-Kolb out of my pasture, and still enjoying the good stuff
on this list as a lurker for a number of years.
Phil
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Group , free site |
But the other site will have Builders / Flyers also...and it won't have the
Bickering...>>
Oh yes it will, if the same guys move.
Pat
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Isn`t it surprising in view of all the furore aboout the superiority of one
wing tip over another that three top designers designed three different
planes, with different wing tips to do the same job.
Spitfire Elliptical
Hurricane. Round
Me 109 Square
Maybe is isn`t that important after all.
Pat
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At 12:10 PM 8/29/09 +0100, you wrote:
>
>Isn`t it surprising in view of all the furore aboout the superiority of one
>wing tip over another that three top designers designed three different
>planes, with different wing tips to do the same job.
>
>Spitfire Elliptical
>Hurricane. Round
>Me 109 Square
>
>Maybe is isn`t that important after all.
>
>Pat
>
It isn't if you have an excess of power and don't have to pay for the fuel.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter List Clutter |
Phil, we'll pretend all the intermediate stuff never occurred.
I'm using the Walmart Fram see-through and I like it. 1/4" push-on
nipples.
BB
On 29, Aug 2009, at 6:16 AM, funderp47 wrote:
>
> I feel kinda guilty. I replied to Bob Bean (I think) in this
> thread about his fuel filter to simply provide differences in
> construction of the plastic filters. My post was followed by the
> 80 dollar MUST use my filter tirade quoting my post and other
> threads about filters that seemed to grow into general civil unrest.
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=61345&highlight
>
> I read the very strong reply to my post that was quoted and paid it
> no more attention than channel changing through the opinionated
> word garbage channels on satellite tv. I think of it as the Jerry
> Springerization of America.
>
> If some people are as word ugly in person as they appear on these
> lists, then I am just happy that I don't have to be around them in
> daily life.
>
> Retired, flying a non-Kolb out of my pasture, and still enjoying
> the good stuff on this list as a lurker for a number of years.
>
> Phil
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=260335#260335
>
>
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Pat, On top of all that, the last models of the Spit had squared off tips.
Rick Girard
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On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Jack B. Hart <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>wrote:
>
> At 12:10 PM 8/29/09 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >Isn`t it surprising in view of all the furore aboout the superiority of
> one
> >wing tip over another that three top designers designed three different
> >planes, with different wing tips to do the same job.
> >
> >Spitfire Elliptical
> >Hurricane. Round
> >Me 109 Square
> >
> >Maybe is isn`t that important after all.
> >
> >Pat
> >
>
> It isn't if you have an excess of power and don't have to pay for the fuel.
>
> Jack B. Hart FF004
> Winchester, IN
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter List Clutter |
> Phil, we'll pretend all the intermediate stuff never occurred.
> I'm using the Walmart Fram see-through and I like it. 1/4" push-on
> nipples.
> BB
Bob B:
Yep!
I couldn't fly without Walmart.
Still using 25 year old fuel filter technology, but it works.
Flying a 17 year old airplane and it works.
Got three tractors 73 years old, one 72 (the rest are younger than me), and
they still work great.
Seventy year old pilot and he still works, but a little slower.
Miss P'fer, my MKIII, is put up and secured for the next two or three months
while I hit the road West next Monday morning.
Ya'll play purty while I'm gone.
john h
mkIII
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Wasn't the Spit wingtip changed from elliptical to squared-off? For
more efficiency?
do not archive
On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:10 AM, pj.ladd wrote:
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> Isn`t it surprising in view of all the furore aboout the
> superiority of one wing tip over another that three top designers
> designed three different planes, with different wing tips to do the
> same job.
>
> Spitfire Elliptical
> Hurricane. Round
> Me 109 Square
>
> Maybe is isn`t that important after all.
>
> Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Plain ol South Louisian flying pics |
John Bickham wrote:
> [i]So here are some plain ol South Louisiana flying pics.
:D Thanks John B. I really enjoyed the pictures. I flew last Sunday over the
Laura S. Walker Lake but forgot my camera. It was fun seeing the boats racing
around.
It's only 9:30 and the heat index is already 86. I'd really like some cooler weather
- please send some my way! Think I'll go fly anyways. It only gives me
half a heart attack now when the thermals kick me around. Guess I'm getting
a little used to it. [Laughing]
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb Group , free site |
planecrazzzy
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 638
PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: Re: New Kolb Group , free
site Reply with quote
Hi John,
I can understand what your saying....
I have talked with others , who have started various "specialized"
forums for their "Type" of Kolb Aircraft.... Basically for the same reason...
Because the list "does" need policing.... or at least the threat of it...
I was hoping to get "you" on board... I would have gladly made you the
"owner" of the site.... There are people joining the site....Once I see
someone to take it over... I'll put them as owner....
at least it'll be source of info without the bickering...
Richard ( Old Poop )... I'd like to see you there... I know you'd make a
great Owner/moderator.... and you have the kind of Knowledge this
position would need....
You could still pop in the matronics site if you need a taste of it...
Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
****************************************************
Thanks but no thanks. Not interested in reinventing a perfectly good wheel.
This list may have occasional problems, and occasionally I'm one of them, so I
will make a serious effort to work on patience. And now is probably a good time
to apologize to Matt and the list for not having enough.
Let's all take a deep breath and just wait to see what the future holds.
Shalom.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Firestar II vs Slingshot Kolbra |
I fly a 503 Firestar II
Was wondering if anyone that has flown the three above aircraft would be able to
provide a comparison. Not specs but your experience as to how they fly.
I have only seen Firefly, Firestar, Firestar II, and MKIII Kolb aircraft.
I was wondering if the others are less popular and if so why.
I like flying cross country in my Firestar and am not unhappy with it, I am interested
in finding out what might be better than a Firestar.
Higher speed, greater range, similar landing, climb, fuel economy.
--------
Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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Russ,
?They squared them off so they did not bump into the hanger door frame.
-----Original Message-----
From: russ kinne <russ@rkiphoto.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:04 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Wingtips
?
Wasn't the Spit wingtip changed from elliptical to squared-off? For more efficiency??
do not archive?
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On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:10 AM, pj.ladd wrote:?
?
>?
> Isn`t it surprising in view of all the furore aboout the > superiority of one
wing tip over another that three top designers > designed three different planes,
with different wing tips to do the > same job.?
>?
> Spitfire Elliptical?
> Hurricane. Round?
> Me 109 Square?
>?
> Maybe is isn`t that important after all.?
>?
> Pat?
>?
>?
>?
>?
>?
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| Subject: | Update on Verner 1400 |
I have taken my VN 1400, to Central FLORDIA Flyers and have met Steve the
owner and as far as I can see he and his operation is first class, I believe
Steve is a excellent craftsman. With a excellent customer service attitude.
The problem of vibrating propeller, propeller damper was remanufactured
with a harder rubber and that stopped the vibration. I am looking forward to
gritting the engine from Steve and the airplane back from Brian at the Kolb
field and getting it ready to fly.
Steve Simmons
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Filter List Clutter |
=0A=0AJohn, I hope you are taking your computer with you ,It would be kind
of difficult around here without you !- Chris=0A-Chris Davis=0AKXP 503
492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly =0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.co
m>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 8:50:56
AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel Filter List Clutter=0A=0A--> Kolb-List me
ssage posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0A=0A=0A> Phil, we'll
pretend all the intermediate stuff never occurred.=0A> I'm using the Walmar
t Fram see-through and I like it.- 1/4" push-on nipples.=0A> BB=0A=0A=0AB
ob B:=0A=0AYep!=0A=0AI couldn't fly without Walmart.=0A=0AStill using 25 ye
ar old fuel filter technology, but it works.=0A=0AFlying a 17 year old airp
lane and it works.=0A=0AGot three tractors 73 years old, one 72 (the rest a
re younger than me), and they still work great.=0A=0ASeventy year old pilot
and he still works, but a little slower.=0A=0AMiss P'fer, my MKIII, is put
up and secured for the next two or three months while I hit the road West
next Monday morning.=0A=0AYa'll play purty while I'm gone.=0A=0Ajohn h=0Amk
===============0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | powered and unpowered weights |
Here's an odd question:
Just say somebody built an ultralight that was powered by a propeller
turned by bicycle pedals. There is no engine. Would this machine need to
make the weight of a powered ultralight, 254 pounds, or an unpowered
glider, 155 pounds. ?
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| Subject: | Rotax 912S worth it? |
For the guys that have made the switch from 582 to 912S, was it worth it? Any noticeable
differences in the way it flies?
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912S worth it? |
> For the guys that have made the switch from 582 to 912S, was it worth it?
Any noticeable differences in the way it flies?
>
Hi Tony/Gang:
I have flown my mkIII with 582, 912UL, and 912ULS.
The switch was worth it.
Yes, there are noticeable differences, primarily in performance increase.
Not much faster in cruise and top speed, but climbs like a home sick angel.
I believe the best all around engine is the 912UL, 80 hp. It operates on
regular unleaded 87 octane fuel, spark plugs go 200 hours.
With a ground adjustable prop, the 912ULS is good for 95 hp at 5500 max
coninuous rpm. The 912UL still puts out close to 80 hp at 5500 max
continuous.
Once you fly with a 912ULS, you won't want to go back.
jhohn h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912S worth it? |
John,
What are you running for a prop? How much work to convert. From what I can see
in the pictures I've found guys still utilize the single boom setup. Off topic,
I'm converting my tailfeather cables to the same adjustable setup you have.
What size of turnbuckles did you use? Would you have a part number? I ordered
some from aircraft spruce but they seem quite large for what they have to do.
They are rated to 2200 lbs each. The part number from Aircraft Spruce was AN130-22S.
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912S worth it? |
> What are you running for a prop? How much work to convert. From what I can
> see in the pictures I've found guys still utilize the single boom setup.
> Off topic, I'm converting my tailfeather cables to the same adjustable
> setup you have. What size of turnbuckles did you use? Would you have a
> part number? I ordered some from aircraft spruce but they seem quite large
> for what they have to do. They are rated to 2200 lbs each. The part number
> from Aircraft Spruce was AN130-22S.
>
> Tony
Tony/Gang:
Warp Drive 71", 3 blade, fast taper with nickle steel leading edges, and a
4" prop extension.
Pretty simple to install a 912 on a MKIII. Call Travis at TNK and get him
to send you an installation kit, which utilizes same engine Lord Mounts as
the 582.
I used same turnbuckles as the elevator cables use. I don't know what size
they are. I am not located near my airplane.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912S worth it? |
Tony,
Just to add to what John H said.
I have the 80 hp 912ul. On the trip out west in May, I was flying with 3 others
that had the 912ULS. They had me by by a handful of MPH's. I think I would
run about 5200 RPM and they would be down under 5000 to stay together.
Besides the better climb and just a bit better cruise, they did a lot better at
the higher altitudes during the mountain crossings. They could go a bit higher,
faster. At 10,000 feet I was not climbing very well and having to work to
get back losses from downdrafts.
The other thing I might add as a positive to the 80 hp 912UL, besides operating
on regular gas and the spark plugs lasting longer, is the fuel burn is a little
lower. I averaged right at 4.25 gph for the entire trip. I think John H and
the other 100 hp's were just a bit over 5 gph. John H would have to verify
that.
So I guess it depends on your flying. Alberta is a bit higher than the swamps
of Louisiana ain't it? For down here, the 80 hp is just fine. Just a bit more
economical to operate.
Stats for trip:
http://www.kolbadventures.blogspot.com/
Hope this is helpful.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912S worth it? |
John are you coming thru AR. on this trip? Would like you to look at my plane
if you are. Food is still good and still got a extra bed. I have even mowed the
strip...
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: powered and unpowered weights |
You've answered your own question, I think."an ultralight that was powered
by a propeller turned by bicycle pedals", powered is powered.
*
*
*Rick
*
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:49 PM, <Masqqqqqqq@aol.com> wrote:
> *Here's an odd question:*
> **
> * Just say somebody built an ultralight that was powered by a propeller
> turned by bicycle pedals. There is no engine. Would this machine need to
> make the weight of a powered ultralight, 254 pounds, or an unpowered glider,
> 155 pounds. ?*
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *
>
> *
>
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| Subject: | turnbuckles and aircraft hardware |
Tony=2C
When I was working on my plane last year=2C I needed some turnbuckles=2C
too. I found an outfit that sells "brand new surplus" turnbuckles for abou
t $7.50 each=2C for the complete assembly=2C instead of $30 from Aircraft S
pruce.
I order plenty of stuff from Aircraft Spruce=2C but these turnbuckles are
the exact same items at 1/4th the cost. They are genuine aircraft hardwar
e=2C identical to the ones that came with my MkIII kit.
I also ordered some other items from these folks=2C like pulleys=2C and A
N nuts & bolts. I tried finding them online=2C and I THINK this is them.
http://www.preferredairparts.com/hardware.htm
Mike Welch
MkIII
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September 19 Sedona SEZ
Went that last year, nice view, closest I expect to get to a carrier landing.
Been advised against landing on the numbers.
The people were real nice when I flew there last year.
--------
Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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