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1. 12:38 AM - One step closer (icrashrc)
2. 02:43 AM - Re: Re: always do your preflight! (pj.ladd)
3. 03:38 AM - Re: One step closer (Denny Rowe)
4. 04:26 AM - Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (Thom Riddle)
5. 04:33 AM - Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (Thom Riddle)
6. 04:41 AM - Re: Re: Wingtips (pj.ladd)
7. 04:44 AM - Re: Re:Wingtips (pj.ladd)
8. 05:25 AM - Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (Jimmy Young)
9. 06:25 AM - Re: One step closer (Robert Laird)
10. 07:42 AM - Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (Ralph B)
11. 09:02 AM - Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA (2danglico)
12. 09:25 AM - Re: Wing Tip Failure? (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
13. 09:41 AM - Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
14. 09:57 AM - Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (dalewhelan)
15. 09:59 AM - Re: Another video... (cristalclear13)
16. 10:00 AM - Re: Wing Tip Failure? (JetPilot)
17. 10:12 AM - Re: One step closer (dalewhelan)
18. 11:24 AM - Re: Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
19. 01:14 PM - Re: powered and unpowered weights (Jeremy Casey)
20. 01:35 PM - Re: Another video... (ces308)
21. 02:16 PM - Re: Wing tip failure (william sullivan)
22. 02:18 PM - Re: Transporting a Kolb (Dana Hague)
23. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Failure? (Mike Welch)
24. 02:21 PM - Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (Dana Hague)
25. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: always do your preflight! (Jeremy Casey)
26. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: One step closer (Mike Welch)
27. 02:24 PM - Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA (Larry Cottrell)
28. 03:52 PM - Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA (ces308)
29. 04:18 PM - Re: turnbuckles and aircraft hardware (planecrazzzy)
30. 04:34 PM - Re: Re: turnbuckles and aircraft hardware (Mike Welch)
31. 04:38 PM - Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA (William Wheet)
32. 05:03 PM - Re: turnbuckles and aircraft hardware (planecrazzzy)
33. 06:29 PM - icom radio trouble (dalewhelan)
34. 06:36 PM - Re: icom radio trouble (Herb)
35. 06:50 PM - Re: icom radio trouble (Dana Hague)
36. 06:55 PM - Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA (robert bean)
37. 07:04 PM - Project posted on Barnstormers (Charles Davis)
38. 07:37 PM - Re: icom radio trouble (dalewhelan)
39. 07:47 PM - Kolb List I need a Part (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
40. 08:04 PM - Re: Re: icom radio trouble (Larry Cottrell)
41. 08:34 PM - Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey (John Hauck)
42. 09:09 PM - Re: One step closer (John Hauck)
43. 11:01 PM - Official Kolb-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
44. 11:13 PM - Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
45. 11:54 PM - Re: Re: Wing Tip Failure? (John Hauck)
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The FAA really blew it this time. I'm now officially a Sport Pilot. Now back to
covering the M3X...
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Scott
www.ill-EagleAviation.com
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| Subject: | Re: always do your preflight! |
The tangs have almost cut all the way through the cable thimble on mine,
much like the others have noted.>>
Hi,
thats interesting. Were they particularly tight?
I remember that when I was gliding everyone pulled their cables at every
annual as a matter of course. This was mainly to check cable wear round
pulleys etc, finding individual wires which had broken (usually by sticking
the end into your finger) but i can never remember anyone having trouble at
the tang.
I remember one guy landed a bit heavily, banging his feet on the rudder
pedals, and the rudder horn fell off. Nothing wrong with the cable though.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: One step closer |
Congrats!!
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> The FAA really blew it this time. I'm now officially a Sport Pilot. Now
> back to covering the M3X...
>
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> Scott
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> www.ill-EagleAviation.com
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
Eugene,
Yesterday I did a 1.5 hour flight at a steady 2,640 rpm and true airspeed of 80
mph at a density altitude of about 2,500'. Total fuel burn of 5.5 gallons for
burn rate of 3.67 gph or almost 22 mpg. These numbers include taxi, short warm
up, one take-off and climb to about 1800 AGL, one descent and landing and taxi
back. On my next flight I plan to do a similar flight at a slower speed, probably
around 72 mph and will report my numbers.
Note that the max continuous spped for the Jabiru engine is 3300 rpm but I am currently
over propped and it won't reach that rpm in straight and level flight.
My prop is a Tennessee Wood 66x34, which I think is too long for a Jabiru engine.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
Eugene,
I forgot to mention that I also tested for minimum power flight. Without use of
flaperons I got down to sustained S&L flight at only 2,232 RPM and 55 mph airspeed.
I think it might go to a little less power cruise but this is only 10 mph
over my stall speed so I didn't bother to reduce power any more.
In case anyone is wondering why I'm quoting such un-rounded tach numbers, for some
reason, my EIS tach reading is in increments of 24 rpm. Have not figured out
why that is, maybe the sensor is reading flywheel teeth. I have not yet dug
into that but will.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 66x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
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you very selectively cite 3 fighter aircraft designed almost 70 years ago.
>>
Not consciously selective. Just 3 planes designed at the same time to do the
same job and I happened to be familiar with their silhouette through
aircraft identificaion classes. As planes stopped being so interesting
somewhere around the Canberra and the Hunter I probably couldn`t tell the
different in silhouette between a Mig and Sabre or anything more up to date.
Re the new shape tip on the Kolb tip. Challenger did the same thing just
before I sold mine. I would like to know how much was increased effeciency
and how much was cosmetic. I reckon its like spoilers on cars. Useful on
racing cars but a dead loss on a normal vehicle. They look nice but don`t
achieve anything but no one will admit it and take them off.
Cheers
Pat
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Very informative reading.>>
Thanks Bill. Will do. I didn`t want to make a federal case out of it,
just an observation.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
Firestar II with the HKS:
2.8 hr flight on Sunday, good combination of cruise at 5200-5400 rpm, slow flight
at 4700 rpm, full power climbs, 3 take offs & landings, burned avg. of 2.5
gal/hr.
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Jimmy Young
FS II, HKS 700
N7043P
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| Subject: | Re: One step closer |
Good job! But.... does this mean you'll change the name of your web site to
L-EagleAviation.com ? :-)
-- Robert
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:37 AM, icrashrc <icrashrc@aol.com> wrote:
>
> The FAA really blew it this time. I'm now officially a Sport Pilot. Now
> back to covering the M3X...
>
> --------
> Scott
>
> www.ill-EagleAviation.com
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
Original Firestar, 2.58 B box, 2-blade 66" Ivo, 2.7 GPH at 5100 rpm, 60mph
Kolbra, 912 80hp, 3-blade Warp Drive, 3.5 GPH at 5000 rpm, 80mph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
960 hours
22 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
1 year flying it
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| Subject: | Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA |
I was inspired by Larry's awesome footage recorded by that tiny camera. I got one
and started playing with it. It's size allowed my to mount it or hold it easily.It
does a good job snapping stills as well. I also edited in some older footage
taken with my dig/cam- I just held it in my throttle hand. My old old Firestar
is flying great, I'll be down for while for Fuel line/pump change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kimUH_YTyyk
John Tempest
Clemson SC
Firestar 447
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Failure? |
Jack B. Hart asked: << has anyone ever had a wing tip fail from normal
flight
conditions, as opposed to striking the ground, etc? >>
Jack, and Kolb Friends -
My experience has shown that the Mark-3 wingtips are pretty stout, even
if not the most aerodynamically efficient.
Three summers ago, I ground-looped my Kolb while taking off in a
crosswind. A strong gust hit me just as the tailwheel came off the
ground, and with insufficient speed for rudder effectiveness, my plane
nosed into the wind, dragging the wingtip on the runway.
(Not one of my prouder moments of flying my Kolb - Ranks right up there
with landing on a muddy salt flat!)
I removed the fabric from the wingtip to inspect the structure inside.
All was OK, thankfully. Replaced the fabric on the wingtip, and have
been flying without problems since.
Dennis Kirby
Happy that my abused Mark-III continues to serve me well, in
Cedar Crest, NM
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA |
John
Nice video. That camera does seem to work well. I need to find one. You also
did a nice job of editing.
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Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "2danglico" <john.tempest@basf.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:02 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA
>
> I was inspired by Larry's awesome footage recorded by that tiny camera. I
> got one and started playing with it. It's size allowed my to mount it or
> hold it easily.It does a good job snapping stills as well. I also edited
> in some older footage taken with my dig/cam- I just held it in my throttle
> hand. My old old Firestar is flying great, I'll be down for while for Fuel
> line/pump change.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kimUH_YTyyk
>
> John Tempest
> Clemson SC
> Firestar 447
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
Firestar II 503 DCDI 66" Ivo 2 blade pitched for 6,400 on climb 2.58:1 B box
32:1 with 87 octane fuel
Flight started with 320 pound load and 10 gallons of fuel.
Air temp at surface was about 95 relative humidity 20% Altimeter 29.86" Haze
Flew between 4,500 and 5,500 msl
Surface is about 1,300 AGL
Made landings at three airfields.
1.8 hours @ 5,800 RPM
Average indicated airspeed at cruise 70 MPH
Fuel burn Five gallons
Cruise EGT 10,500
Climb EGT 950, main jets on order
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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| Subject: | Re: Another video... |
ces308 wrote:
> Hi All....Just another view from m3x....I was curious as to what was going on
in the back of the plane....I may do this again with the windows out to get rid
of the distortion....hope you enjoy it...hey,what do you want for nothing.....rubber
biscuit ??
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/jab 52+ hrs
> N327CS
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO5W0jH72C8
That is really cool Chris. Thanks for giving us that perspective.
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Failure? |
Here are a couple reported cases... Only took me a few minutes to search and find
this. I could probably find more, but this will help those that are interested
in this subject will get the idea.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=39942
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: One step closer |
I don't understand, can I buy a vowel or get some history to understand?
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
MKIIIC Redrive 2180cc VW 71" PowerFin F model 3 blade 4GPH @ 75 MPH 3200 RPM
on a 2-3.5 hour cross country.
An interesting change occurred on the flight to the Purdy field fly in. The
flight was exactly 2 hours round trip winds < 5 MPH both directions. On the
way there I flew my normal 75 MPH indicated for app. one hour. On the way
back I flew in a loose formation at 70 MPH. The total fuel burn was exactly
6.25 gallons I emptied my 6 gallon aux tank just before landing to top off
the main tanks. This also included a brief period of flight close to 80 MPH
@ 3400 RPM to catch up. My MKIIIC really doesn't like to fly faster than 75
MPH and it appears there is considerable drag reduction, fuel economy by
slowing to 70 MPH.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 11:30 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey
>
> MKIII, 582, 2.58:1 B box, 2 blade 68" Ivo, 4 GPH @ 5,200 rpm & 65 mph
>
> FSII, 582, 2.58:1 B box, 2 blade 68" Ivo, 3.5 GPH @ 4,800 rpm & 62 mph
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: powered and unpowered weights |
The regulations will be academic anyway...if it isn't VERY light and an
immense wingspan human power will not get it off the ground...pound for
pound us humans are pretty pitiful engines
Jeremy
Richard Girard wrote:
> You've answered your own question, I think.
> "an ultralight that was powered by a propeller turned by bicycle
> pedals", powered is powered.
> *
> *
> *Rick
> *
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 4:49 PM, <Masqqqqqqq@aol.com
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>
> *Here's an odd question:*
> **
> * Just say somebody built an ultralight that was powered by a
> propeller turned by bicycle pedals. There is no engine. Would
> this machine need to make the weight of a powered ultralight, 254
> pounds, or an unpowered glider, 155 pounds. ?*
>
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| Subject: | Re: Another video... |
I think the distortion of the tail is more the plastic wiggling around...I am going
to take the window out and try this again then we'll know for sure...but
if you watch the tail and the window they seem to move in unison,but we'll see
! I'm thinking of putting the camera on the boom also and see what happens.
chris ambrose
M3X/jab 53+ HRS
n327cs
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| Subject: | Re: Wing tip failure |
- Mike- I remember that discussion from last year, and the small braces s
eem to be the culprit.- My old Firestar is one of the early ones, and pri
or to my getting it it had been flipped over in a northeaster when a tie do
wn rope broke.- There was also a little rash on it, covered with tape.-
The tip braces in question were not broken on mine, and the builder had wi
red a small block of foam where the braces crossed.- No chafing, either.
- The other wing set that I had was dated about 1989.- Even after my ac
cident, no breakage there, but I seem to remember some rub marks.
- I don't think it is a design problem.- A little care when assembling,
and not over crushing the tube ends would seem to eliminate the problem.
-
- The little foam block was about 3/4" square, and about 1/2" thick.- I
t was held in place with twisted wire.
-
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-------------------- Bill Sullivan
-------------------------
-------------------- Windsor Locks,
Ct
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-------------------- FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: Transporting a Kolb |
At 11:56 AM 8/30/2009, Tim Warlick wrote:
>
>Found out that I "may" be moving from Mobile, AL to Tucson, AZ.
>
>For those who have transported their Kolbs, should I let the movers try to
>move it in the moving van or should I rent a 26 foot U-Haul truck and
>drive it the 23 hours?
>
>Either way, with the wings folded it is pretty compact. What precautions
>do I need to take?
You REALLY REALLY don't want to trust your plane to movers who know nothing
about aircraft!
I don't know about the later models, but my UltraStar manual has a section
about trailering. The important points are:
-Plane sits on the main wheels.
-Use a padded cradle to support the tail boom, don't rest on the tailwheel
(the folded wings move too much weight aft for the tailwheel to
handle). The padded cradle is right under the folded wing support.
-Secure the wings so they can't slip off the supports.
Why don't you just fly it there?
-Dana
--
"If I knew there were coming to my house a man with the fixed intention
of doing me good I would run for my life." - Thoreau
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Failure? |
Mike B=2C (notice the "B"=2C since there are several Mikes!!)
I agree with you=2C and in adding to your point about "wingtip breakage"
=2C I would also add that because the 5/16" and reinforcing tubes are pop-r
iveted=2C this is one of the main reasons why they break.
In the numerous times I've had to move my MkIII=2C and hangar rash=2C in
general=2C I've had a couple of the 5/16" tubes break at the pop-rivet dril
l hole (on one flap and the elevator). Fortunately=2C these breaks were pr
ior to covering!!
When possible=2C I used the sheet metal tab/pop-rivet method (giving me a
bout 4 rivets)=2C to fasten some of the 5/16" tubes=2C rather than rely on
just one 1/8" rivet.
Now that my Poly Fiber covering and paint are finished=2C I wouldn't imag
ine the fastening points are as sensitive=2C since they don't flex very muc
h.
Mike Welch
MkIII
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Wing Tip Failure?
> From: orcabonita@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue=2C 1 Sep 2009 10:00:29 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Here are a couple reported cases... Only took me a few minutes to search
and find this. I could probably find more=2C but this will help those that
are interested in this subject will get the idea.
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=39942
>
>
> Mike
>
> --------
> "=3BNO FEAR"=3B - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as y
ou could have !!!
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> Kolb MK-III Xtra=2C 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
UltraStar with Cuyuna ULII-02:
3.3GPH overall (taxi, climb, cruise, landing) with 5800 rpm cruise (50-55 mph).
5 gallons won't give me a hour flight!
Extended slower cruise flights are on my agenda.
-Dana
At 10:21 PM 8/31/2009, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
>I'm curious what other kolb pilots are experiencing as their gallon
>per hour fuel burn?
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>What is your sustained level flight absolute minimum gal, per hr? At
>what engine rpm? And at what cruise speed?
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>What is your over all "average" gal. per hr. engine rpm, and
>cruise speed?
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>Please specify the model of your plane and engine when you share your
>statistics.
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>Statistic from flights of 2 hours or longer will likely be more
>accurate and reliable than shorter flights, but please share whatever
>you personally experience with your plane.
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| Subject: | Re: always do your preflight! |
>
> I posted a warning about this here on the Kolb List last year. These tangs
have a history of cracking like this. Rans even posted an AD on this same type
tang last year for their aircraft. Rans speculated that this can happen due
to incorrect bending, and over tightening of the tail wires. Rans said these
tangs shoud be inspected with a 10 X magnifying glass, which I do regularly.
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=42213
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> Attached to this post is a copy of the Rans AD on these tangs.
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> Rans aircraft have two sets of tail wires, Kolbs only have one set. If one tail
wire were to fail on a Kolb, the airplane would tumble. Given the AD, and
close calls like this one, I recently did the work to install a second set of
tail wires on my Kolb MK III.
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I believe the "Warning" you refer to was my message dated APRIL 15 2008
that referenced (and attached) the RANS AD about these tangs. I do not
know who Kolb gets them from but RANS does in fact manufacture these
tangs for several other companies...they do NOT use them for the tail
wire purpose anymore. At the last inspection in July of this year I
found another tang that was starting to crack (right through the 2ND and
3RD hole just like the AD says they will, for what it is worth I have
never heard of the tangs with only 1 hole in each end ever having a
failure) For the record this tang had never been REbent and the bend was
located properly per the original plans. I am most likely going to
retrofit my cables to a 4130 steel strap with 1 hole in each end...have
another thought on the subject but haven't decided yet. My application
is a RANS S7 but same setup as Kolb for tail cables. Before anyone says
"That doesn't apply to Kolbs" I want to go ahead and say "bull-doody",
they both are subject to vibration and tension and a myriad of other
forces...and will be subject to the same failures on either plane. Only
difference will be the S7 has another complete set of cables to hold
things in their general location till you get it on the ground (albeit
wiggly)...if a Kolb has a tang failure then I hope you have a BRS.
For what it is worth this is kind of ironic that it is even being
discussed again...When someone has a failure of a particular
manufactured part , you'd think other folks with the same manufactured
part would think "Hey, that might be worth taking a look at!" Come on
guys, don't rationalize that "I did mine right , they are fine!!!"
Waste an hour and inspect those 8 little tangs holding your tail
feathers together (and keeping your TAIL in the air...so to speak)
While we are rehashing old warnings, I'll throw out another that I
mentioned around 2005. MATCO 6" aluminum rims that were optional
upgrades on many Kolbs over the years. If memory serves they were MATCO
model number MH6B and were usually anodized gold. They were a spun rim
and had some problems with the web of the rim cracking out where it bent
around and formed the flange. These were later changed ...the
replacements I got were both thicker material and a different profile
shape as well. I know of 2 that let go in use 1 during an otherwise
nice landing that then caused a pretty spectacular sudden stop...I took
the hint and pulled mine off and broke them down to inspect...lo and
behold one of mine had already cracked about 45 degrees of the web to
flange bend. So I can personally attest to 3 failures or imminent
failures of this part. While you are pulling maintenance , checking
those cable tangs why not pull the rims (if you have that style) and
give them a once over?
I am attaching a picture of my cracked rim to show you where to look...I
drew an ellipse around the crack...
Fly safe,
Jeremy Casey
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| Subject: | Re: One step closer |
Dale=2C
I think our good friend Scott was bragging=2C in his subtle way=2C that t
he FAA made the mistake of letting him be a gen-u-wine pilot type guy=2C AN
D he's getting mighty close to finishing his Xtra.
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA |
John,
I liked the video very much, nice job!
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: 2danglico
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 10:02 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA
I was inspired by Larry's awesome footage recorded by that tiny
camera. I got one and started playing with it. It's size allowed my to
mount it or hold it easily.It does a good job snapping stills as well. I
also edited in some older footage taken with my dig/cam- I just held it
in my throttle hand. My old old Firestar is flying great, I'll be down
for while for Fuel line/pump change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kimUH_YTyyk
John Tempest
Clemson SC
Firestar 447
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA |
Great Video !!! Are you using Movie Maker to edit???and what format is your video
in ??
chris ambrose
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| Subject: | Re: turnbuckles and aircraft hardware |
Somebody got a quote from this place today...
I paid $160 for 8 Turnbarrels... at ACS
The place your saying that's cheaper , wanted $207 for the same thing
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | Re: turnbuckles and aircraft hardware |
I said "I think that's them"
>>I also ordered some other items from these folks=2C like pulleys=2C and A
N nuts & bolts. I tried >>finding them online=2C and I THINK this is them
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Evidently not! Huh?
The outfit I found charged $7.50 for the complete assembly. I bought sever
al.
Mike
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: turnbuckles and aircraft hardware
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> Date: Tue=2C 1 Sep 2009 16:17:38 -0700
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA |
YOUZER I like makes me wanta do it too
Bill in maine
98 fsII
503
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, 2danglico <john.tempest@basf.com> wrote:
From: 2danglico <john.tempest@basf.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA
I was inspired by Larry's awesome footage recorded by that tiny camera. I g
ot one and started playing with it. It's size allowed my to mount it or hol
d it easily.It does a good job snapping stills as well. I also edited in so
me older footage taken with my dig/cam- I just held it in my throttle hand.
My old old Firestar is flying great, I'll be down for while for Fuel line/
pump change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kimUH_YTyyk
John Tempest
Clemson SC
Firestar 447
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| Subject: | Re: turnbuckles and aircraft hardware |
Ahhhh,
Well it still looks like a good "Link" to add to the
other Kolb site... We're looking for alternative "anything"
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Gotta Fly...
Mike & "Jaz" in MN
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| Subject: | icom radio trouble |
I have an Icom A24
The radio transmits fine until I install the pigtail and hook up either of my headsets.
Then it squeals like feedback in my ears and to a nearby(200 yards away)
ground station.
I am using the battery when doing this and the radio indicates (TX)
In flight on the Icom power supply it has been reported that they hear my motor
more than me.
I can not hear the side tone any longer.
Reception is fine.
The pig tail show no connection from any terminal to any other terminal.
Perhaps a short occurs when I install the jacks.
Does any one have any ideas on this?
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| Subject: | Re: icom radio trouble |
Some radios have to be programmed to turn the internal mike off...Herb
At 08:28 PM 9/1/2009, you wrote:
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>I have an Icom A24
>The radio transmits fine until I install the pigtail and hook up
>either of my headsets. Then it squeals like feedback in my ears and
>to a nearby(200 yards away) ground station.
>I am using the battery when doing this and the radio indicates (TX)
>In flight on the Icom power supply it has been reported that they
>hear my motor more than me.
>I can not hear the side tone any longer.
>Reception is fine.
>The pig tail show no connection from any terminal to any other terminal.
>Perhaps a short occurs when I install the jacks.
>Does any one have any ideas on this?
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>503 powered Firestar II
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| Subject: | Re: icom radio trouble |
At 09:28 PM 9/1/2009, dalewhelan wrote:
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>I have an Icom A24
>The radio transmits fine until I install the pigtail and hook up either of
>my headsets. Then it squeals...
I had the same problem, all A24's do it. It's RF feedback in the mike
cable. The only way to fix it is to remote the antenna. It doesn't have
to be far; I bought a 6' cable and a connector at Radio Shack and put the
original rubber duck antenna at the end. It's only about 2' from the
radio, the rest of the cable is coiled up, but it takes care of the problem.
I made a plastic block to clamp the connector and mounted the antenna,
pointing straight down, under the fuel tanks (under my knees in the UltraStar.
I've heard that [only] a couple of expensive David Clark headsets don't
have this problem with the A24.
People can hear me fine when I transmit, but I've only ever used the
internal battery. If you're getting engine noise on external power, you
probably need some kind of filter on the power supply.
Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA |
John, that was really well done.
I took 30 minutes of vid today in perfect weather, got home and
looked....... aimed poorly, lots of clouds.
maybe tomorrow.
BB
btw, right after I took off a Kolb passed overhead in the other
direction. A rare occurrence around here.
On 1, Sep 2009, at 12:02 PM, 2danglico wrote:
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> I was inspired by Larry's awesome footage recorded by that tiny
> camera. I got one and started playing with it. It's size allowed my
> to mount it or hold it easily.It does a good job snapping stills as
> well. I also edited in some older footage taken with my dig/cam- I
> just held it in my throttle hand. My old old Firestar is flying
> great, I'll be down for while for Fuel line/pump change.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kimUH_YTyyk
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> John Tempest
> Clemson SC
> Firestar 447
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| Subject: | Project posted on Barnstormers |
There were a few nibbles, but no bites, so I've re-listed by Firefly project
on Barnstomers.
http://www.barnstormers.com/classified_328593_Kolb+Firefly+Project.html
This is an excellent project for some one looking to get a high performance
plane at an economical price. $4000 get's you just about everything you
need to get into the air except the engine, including wings (covered), cage,
boom tube and assembled tail feathers, nose cone and instruments. This is
less then 1/2 price to buy new.
Chuck Davis
Firefly N7057K
Flying, not building
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| Subject: | Re: icom radio trouble |
Dana thanks for the reply.
I have been using the radio with a six foot antenna cable for about a year, antenna
pointing down from the nose. it just started acting up Monday.
It squeals on the battery with the external antenna.
One headset is David Clark (Older)
Motor noise has not been a problem since I installed BR8ES plugs, resistor caps,
and wrapped the plug wires.
I am planning to inspect and or replace the plugs and caps as they have 100 hours
on them.
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| Subject: | Kolb List I need a Part |
Anyone on the list got a Cap that fits the oil injection tank?on ?a 582 Rotax I
have one on order but it looks like it will be a while there on backorder and
they don't know when they will be coming in, I have cash waiting for your cap
Ellery in Maine
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From: William Wheet <fishhawk16@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 1, 2009 7:38 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA
YOUZER I like makes me wanta do it too
Bill in maine
98 fsII
503
--- On Tue, 9/1/09, 2danglico <john.tempest@basf.com> wrote:
From: 2danglico <john.tempest@basf.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar Video Upstate SC/GA
I was inspired by Larry's awesome footage recorded by that tiny camera. I got one
and started playing with it. It's size allowed my to mount it or hold it easily.It
does a good job snapping stills as well. I also edited in some older footage
taken with my dig/cam- I just held it in my throttle hand. My old old Firestar
is flying great, I'll be down for while for Fuel line/pump change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kimUH_YTyyk
John Tempest
Clemson SC
Firestar 447
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| Subject: | Re: icom radio trouble |
Check for a short that is causing the radio to be in transmit mode.
Other than that your mikes in the headset are directional, most use them
one way for tractors, the reverse for pushers.
Good Luck
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: dalewhelan
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: icom radio trouble
<dalewhelan@earthlink.net>
Dana thanks for the reply.
I have been using the radio with a six foot antenna cable for about a
year, antenna pointing down from the nose. it just started acting up
Monday.
It squeals on the battery with the external antenna.
One headset is David Clark (Older)
Motor noise has not been a problem since I installed BR8ES plugs,
resistor caps, and wrapped the plug wires.
I am planning to inspect and or replace the plugs and caps as they
have 100 hours on them.
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503 powered Firestar II
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb gph fuel burn survey |
> I'm curious what other kolb pilots are experiencing as their gallon
> per hour fuel burn?
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> Eugene Zimmerman
Gene/Gang:
582
5800
5.5 gph
912UL
5000
4 gph
912ULS
5000
5 gph
447
5800
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Cuyuna ULII02
5800
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UH-1H
600 lbs/100 gph
AH-1G
600 lbs/100 gph
Forgot all the rest. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Marion, IL
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| Subject: | Re: One step closer |
> The FAA really blew it this time. I'm now officially a Sport Pilot. Now
> back to covering the M3X...
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Well, do you feel any sportier? ;-)
Congratulations.
john h
mkIII
Marion, IL
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file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
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| Subject: | Official Kolb-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
Please read over the Kolb-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
Kolb-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
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Thank you,
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the Kolb-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the Kolb-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
Kolb-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the Kolb-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
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| Subject: | Re: Wing Tip Failure? |
> Here are a couple reported cases... Only took me a few minutes to search
> and find this. I could probably find more, but this will help those that
> are interested in this subject will get the idea.
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=39942
>
>
> Mike
Mike B/Gang:
The referenced brace that broke, in my opinion, is not structural.
Its primary function is to keep from pulling the bow tip aft during
shrinking of the fabric.
Dennis S can correct me if I am wrong.
Without this tube, the bow tip is not any weaker.
That is not a wing tip/bow tip failure.
john h
mkIII
Marion, IL
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