---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/09/09: 28 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:54 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Thom Riddle) 2. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (John Hauck) 3. 07:57 AM - Re: Why a Kolb? (Ralph B) 4. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Why a Kolb? (pj.ladd) 5. 08:17 AM - Re: Microbes in the fuel (pj.ladd) 6. 08:19 AM - Re: Microbes in the fuel (pj.ladd) 7. 08:20 AM - Re: Re: Why a Kolb? (Robert Laird) 8. 09:00 AM - Re: Why a Kolb? (beberle) 9. 09:12 AM - Re: Why a Kolb? (Ralph B) 10. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: Why a Kolb? (Jim Kmet) 11. 10:04 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (r3000@warwick.net) 12. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Why a Kolb? (Richard Girard) 13. 10:23 AM - Re: Why a Kolb? (Eugene Zimmerman) 14. 10:45 AM - Re: Re: Why a Kolb? (zeprep251@aol.com) 15. 11:56 AM - Re: Why a Kolb? (Thom Riddle) 16. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: Why a Kolb? (Eugene Zimmerman) 17. 01:25 PM - Kolb list question? (Eugene Zimmerman) 18. 01:30 PM - Re: Kolb list question? (Eugene Zimmerman) 19. 02:13 PM - Gascolator / fuel filter (Richard Girard) 20. 02:22 PM - Re: Why a Kolb? (ces308) 21. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (Beauford T) 22. 02:39 PM - Re: Kolb list question? (George Alexander) 23. 02:55 PM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (John Hauck) 24. 03:16 PM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (Mike Welch) 25. 03:47 PM - Re: Microbes in the fuel (pj.ladd) 26. 06:42 PM - Re: Kolb list question? (Tony Oldman) 27. 07:01 PM - Retreiving the FSII (Richard Pike) 28. 07:54 PM - Fw: Why a Kolb? (Eugene Zimmerman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:01 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vortex Generators From: "Thom Riddle" The least expensive source I've found for plastic manufactured VGs is at the following link. http://flyfbi.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=FS&Product_Code=AIRWAVE-100&Category_Code=ACS or http://tinyurl.com/mp76ay I have some home made aluminum ones that I was going to put on my SS but since Beauford said the Landshorter ones work better than the aluminum ones did on his Kolb, I'm considering ordering a set of these. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x34 A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262243#262243 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:47:58 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Vortex Generators > I have some home made aluminum ones that I was going to put on my SS but since Beauford said the Landshorter ones work better than the aluminum ones did on his Kolb, I'm considering ordering a set of these. > > Thom Riddle Hi Gang: I was looking at the VG ad from Thom R. Kit includes 100 each VGs. Without going to Land Shorter web site, I believe they also send 100 VGs in their kit. >From the above info, am I to assume all airplanes use the same number of VGs? i.e., Fire Fly with 22 foot wingspan uses same number as MKIII with 30 feet? john h MKIII West Yellowstone, MT ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:59 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: "Ralph B" The single seat Firestar can be set up by one person and stored and trailered from a single car garage. The setup isn't hard and takes about 20 minutes to a half hour. Your car will have to sit outside, but what's more important? I now have a double-car garage and the car can sit inside too. A Mark II, or III will take 2 people to set up and can be stored in a garage. My Kolbra is stored in a hanger and it would be a chore to fold because of the weight of the wings and moving it around as it weighs 591 lbs. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 960 hours 22 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 1 year flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262262#262262 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/folded_up__152.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ralph_and_firestar__193.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tucked_in_bed__534.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/back_home_in_the_hanger__227.jpg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:15:16 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? ,cruises 70-90 mph 2 people,>> Hi Chris, I have the same set up and 90 feels pretty uncomfortable. What revs are you getting 70 to 90, and what prop? Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:00 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Microbes in the fuel When the government came down on them for false advertising, they must've found a new angle to sell those things...>> Hi Dana, Could be, I suppose but axccording to the article the guy in question did a hell of a lot of work trying to solve the problem before he finally got to the magnet thing. I dont know if the Microlight mag. is available on line but you might try BMAA. Org. i am surprised that the problem and the answer have not surfaced before, we have all been flying 2 strokes a long time. 4 strokes are different as we have only had the 10% addition to fuel rule since May. Magnetic bangles didn`t work for my arthritis either. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:19:10 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Microbes in the fuel With a magnetic field we can increase the internal energy of the fuel, causing specific changes at a molecular level. Increasing the internal energy to obtain more easier combustion. The molecules fly apart easier, join with oxygen easier and ignite easier. 'Ionization' implies that the fuel acquires a 'charge' and molecules of like charge repel each other, this makes fuel dispersal more efficient. Then if you charge the air to the opposite polarity, then the fuel and oxygen combine far quicker than 'normal'.>> So thats where all that fuel on the hangar floor has been coming from. It seems that the effect continues even with the engine switched off Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: Robert Laird Correction, Ralph.... my MkIIIC doesn't take two people, just me, to set up.... in fact, the time to set it up LENGTHENS if I get someone else involved. :-) Here's a video I did of unfolding then refolding my Kolb. During the re-folding, you'll see I had some help, but, as I mentioned, it increased the time! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGblkR8cdYE -- Robert On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Ralph B wrote: > > The single seat Firestar can be set up by one person and stored and > trailered from a single car garage. The setup isn't hard and takes about 20 > minutes to a half hour. Your car will have to sit outside, but what's more > important? I now have a double-car garage and the car can sit inside too. A > Mark II, or III will take 2 people to set up and can be stored in a garage. > My Kolbra is stored in a hanger and it would be a chore to fold because of > the weight of the wings and moving it around as it weighs 591 lbs. > > Ralph > > -------- > Ralph B > Original Firestar 447 > N91493 E-AB > 960 hours > 22 years flying it > Kolbra 912UL > N20386 > 1 year flying it > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262262#262262 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/folded_up__152.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/ralph_and_firestar__193.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/tucked_in_bed__534.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/back_home_in_the_hanger__227.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:52 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: "beberle" I love to hear the 'preaching'! I watched the video of Travis' yellow MKIIIX. Didn't realize there were options for more than 10gallons fuel. That's a plus. How does the MKIII handle midday turbulence? I've got several hours in trikes; love the flying, just not much utility. I'm prepared for a light aircraft 'feel', but don't want to be limited to early-morining flights. I've got two teenagers, so not sure if I've got time to build. How long to build w/ the quickbuild options? I take it a 90mph cruise is a bit optimistic ? thanks for the replies Brian Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262277#262277 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:51 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: "Ralph B" > Correction, Ralph.... my MkIIIC doesn't take two people, just me, to set up.... in fact, the time to set it up LENGTHENS if I get someone else involved. :-) > > Here's a video I did of unfolding then refolding my Kolb. During the re-folding, you'll see I had some help, but, as I mentioned, it increased the time! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGblkR8cdYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGblkR8cdYE) > -- Robert Thanks for the correction Robert. I know what you mean when someone wants to help out during setup. I always say that I can do it by myself and they can watch and ask questions. Ralph B -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 960 hours 22 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 1 year flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262278#262278 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:14 AM PST US From: "Jim Kmet" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? Brian, 90 mph cruise will be a stretch, they like 70 to 80. My MK-3C with a 912 takes , well, my best time is 12 minutes, to fold or unfold, then take time to do a good pre-flight, & like the others, If I get "Help", something will get missed. People watching seem to feel helpless, & can`t help but to offer. Hard to make them understand it`s just better If I do it myself. Best way to evaluate the plane is to get a ride in one. The Folks at the factory are Fantastic at supporting builders/fliers. And, any problem you encounter has been solved before. You won`t be alone. Jim Kmet ----- Original Message ----- From: "beberle" Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 11:00 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? > > I love to hear the 'preaching'! I watched the video of Travis' yellow > MKIIIX. Didn't realize there were options for more than 10gallons fuel. > That's a plus. How does the MKIII handle midday turbulence? > I've got several hours in trikes; love the flying, just not much utility. > I'm prepared for a light aircraft 'feel', but don't want to be limited to > early-morining flights. > I've got two teenagers, so not sure if I've got time to build. How long > to build w/ the quickbuild options? > I take it a 90mph cruise is a bit optimistic ? > > thanks for the replies > Brian > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262277#262277 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Vortex Generators From: r3000@warwick.net Thanks for all the responses. The project in question was a Colomban CriCri, now in eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300343336101&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT I played for a while with the idea of buying it, and build a pair of slightly longer wings to shoehorn it into Part-103 limits. (Stock stall speed is too high for VGs alone to bring it down to '103 specks - would be non-aerobatic, of course.) Between the longer wings + VGs + new propellers to limit max speed, it could have been a wonderful '103 plane. Fortunately, I suffered an attack of temporary sanity and begun to think about the side effects of such change. Longer wings will develop more lift, but what about elasticity problems? Do I want to do flutter testing with the new wings? (Answer: No) The tail surfaces may not have enough control authority at lower speeds making landings tricky. Also, flying at lower speeds and higher angle of attack will make the T-tail sink into the turbulence created by the fuselage and canopy. Again, potential control problems at low speeds. Finaly, I could fit in that plane, but me and my wife together would not. So I am back looking for a two-seat LSA, may be a Kolb. Sorry for the detour from the regular programming and again, thanks for the very useful information shared here. Roberto Waltman ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:56 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: Richard Girard Brian, If I had it to do over again I'd buy a MkIIIX instead of the C. That claim is based on ergonomics as much as anything. When I first started flying my C I left the shoulder harness loose enough so that I could reach the switches on the panel. Then I found myself doing a face plant on the inside of the canopy when I was nailed by a Kansas boomer thermal. During the rebuild I put in an over head panel for mag, starter and fuel boost pump switches. The only switches that remain on the panel are the master and starter solenoid switches. I can fly with the straps nice and snug now. The airplane takes the thermals in stride.Bottom line, if I were you I'd set up a test ride in the factory demo plane or someone on the list. But beware, Kolbs are like beautiful women and can be very seductive. Rick Girard do not archive On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:00 AM, beberle wrote: > > I love to hear the 'preaching'! I watched the video of Travis' yellow > MKIIIX. Didn't realize there were options for more than 10gallons fuel. > That's a plus. How does the MKIII handle midday turbulence? > I've got several hours in trikes; love the flying, just not much utility. > I'm prepared for a light aircraft 'feel', but don't want to be limited to > early-morining flights. > I've got two teenagers, so not sure if I've got time to build. How long to > build w/ the quickbuild options? > I take it a 90mph cruise is a bit optimistic ? > > thanks for the replies > Brian > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262277#262277 > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:23:38 AM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Why a Kolb? Why a Kolb? A flying smile in the sky says it all. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: zeprep251@aol.com Hate to butt in here Ralph, but I'm 71 and fold and unfold my MK-3 every time I fly it in Fla. unassisted. 20 minutes from climbing out of the pilots seat it's locked up in the trailer.It is more difficult than my Firestar by 8-10 minutes but easily a one man job. G.Aman MK-3C Jabiru 2200A 472hrs -----Original Message----- From: Ralph B Sent: Wed, Sep 9, 2009 10:57 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? The single seat Firestar can be set up by one person and stored and trailered from a single car garage. The setup isn't hard and takes about 20 minutes to a half hour. Your car will have to sit outside, but what's more important? I now have a double-car garage and the car can sit inside too. A Mark II, or III will take 2 people to set up and can be stored in a garage. My Kolbra is stored in a hanger and it would be a chore to fold because of the weight of the wings and moving it around as it weighs 591 lbs. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 960 hours 22 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 1 year flying it Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262262#262262 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/folded_up__152.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/ralph_and_firestar__193.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/tucked_in_bed__534.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/back_home_in_the_hanger__227.jpg ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:34 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: "Thom Riddle" Gene, re: three-bird-smiley What a great image! Did this occur naturally or was it "constructed". I think I'm going to change my desktop background. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x34 A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262307#262307 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:52:08 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? Tom. I found it on the net and liked it. I have no idea as to it's origin? Gene On Sep 9, 2009, at 2:55 PM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > Gene, > > re: three-bird-smiley > > What a great image! Did this occur naturally or was it > "constructed". I think I'm going to change my desktop background. > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x34 > > A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from > a simple system that works. > - John Gaule > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262307#262307 > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:25:19 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb list question? From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Does anyone have any idea why some of my posts to the Kolb list show up in the e-mail and others do not? I'm wondering if anyone received a post from me today via e-mail with a pict attachment? The message subject was "Why a Kolb?" Also why do my posts show as from "guest" on the Web format when I have been a long time member, perhaps for as long as the list was in existence? I noticed some others members also show up as "guest". In last November fund drive I did not make a financial contribution to Matronics and am curious if this has anything to do with it, or if I'm just having a problem with my computer or e-mail settings? I'm sending this message vie the web interface. Gene Zimmerman Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262325#262325 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:30:05 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb list question? From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Ah Ha! This time I show up as "Eugene Zimmerman" rather than "guest" ? ? ? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262329#262329 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:13:18 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Gascolator / fuel filter From: Richard Girard All the discussion about fuel filters got me started thinking of doing something new for Zulu Delta. We're having a spate of thunderstorms every day for the next week so I decided yesterday to just get on with it. I cut the filter stem to get it started and played around on Acad last night to figure out how things would fit. I decided on a left hand thread to attach the bowl so I wouldn't be feeding into a shoulder. 1 5/8-20 isn't exactly a common thread so I had to get out the thread wires and remember how to use them. It's been a quarter century since I last pulled them out of the drawer (now there's a way to make yourself feel old). Calculation said I needed 1.6262" over the wires to get the pitch diameter I wanted. The flash obscured the lines on the mic's barrel but if you look close you can see it reads .6259" (it's a 1" to 2" mic). -.0003" ain't too shabby.Off to grind a tool to cut the O-ring groove. Rick Girard do not archive ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:29 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Why a Kolb? From: "ces308" Hi Pat! Yeah...80 feels the best for me too and 80 mph is 2800 rpm's 90 is 2900...and 70 is 2700....My prop is a Sensenich w58djl44 wood. chris ambrose M3X/Jab Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262343#262343 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:51 PM PST US From: "Beauford T" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Vortex Generators >>From the above info, am I to assume all airplanes use the same number of >>VGs? i.e., Fire Fly with 22 foot wingspan uses same number as MKIII with 30 >>feet? -------- ...Well...I reckon you COULD get all 100 of 'em on the Fly, John... but it might look kinda like a cheese grater from the front.... and would likely sound like a harmonica band going by... Actually, the Landshorter package provides an assortment of templates to make sure that the installer sets them on the wings of a given airplane at an efficient interval and exactly the right angle of attack...they make a big deal of getting the angle of attack of the VG precisely correct, and the templates will do that if one pays attention to them. I had about 28 of the original 100 left over on the Fly as I recollect. When I ordered them the lady at Landshorter mentioned that while most folks just keep the extras as spares in the event some fall off, she said that some customers who have shorter wingspan machines use the leftovers at other places such as the tail feathers... I decided to leave the old aluminum items currently on the bottom of the horizontal stab and both sides of the vertical stab on the Fly where they are... mainly because they are danged hard to get off, even after soaking. I tried. I'll keep about 8 of the Lexan extras in case I eventually lose a few off the wings... will likely replace the five large yellow ones on the helmet with the remaining 20... Speaking of losing them... I have yet to have a single one of the Lexan units fall off... Landshorter recommends a certain Loctite #401 industrial-strength cyanoacrylic clear cement, basically a souped-up crazy glue, to put them on with... they sell the stuff and I ordered a tube with my VG's. One thing, though -- one had best know EXACTLY where, and at what angle, one wants that doober BEFORE it touches to the fabric...or your thumb.... your stogie... the cat.... your left nostril..... whatever. The word "adjustment" is clearly not in the Loctite #401 vocabulary....even one nanosecond after first contact. Kinda reminded me of our honeymoon.... So far -- So good, with these things... as already mentioned, a remarkable positive difference from the VG setup I previously had... ...worth what ye paid fer it... beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:54 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb list question? From: "George Alexander" Eugene Zimmerman wrote: > Does anyone have any idea why some of my posts to the Kolb list show up in the e-mail and others do not? > > = = = SNIP = = = > > I'm sending this message vie the web interface. > > Gene Zimmerman Gene: My guess......... One (the smiling birds) came to the list through a gmail account and that's the one you show up as a guest and the other, this 'un, came in through a different account (maybe your regular ISP acct?) and you show up legitimate. They both show up on the web forum. Matt will have to tell us why. -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262345#262345 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 02:55:01 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Vortex Generators I had about 28 of the original 100 left over on the > Fly as I recollect. > > beauford Beauford/Gang: Still don't know if I would have enough left over for my helmet after fitting out the MKIII wing. ;-( john h mkIII West Yellowstone, MT - 24F this morning when I got up, but T-shirt weather under a dark blue cloudless sky this afternoon. Just got up from my nap and headed out to find me some senior citizen grub. ;-) ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 03:16:24 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Vortex Generators John=2C You have the priority backwards. FIRST=2C the helmet=2C then the wings. : ) Mike Welch MkIIICX > From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Vortex Generators > Date: Wed=2C 9 Sep 2009 15:30:57 -0600 > > > > I had about 28 of the original 100 left over on the > > Fly as I recollect. > > > > beauford > > > Beauford/Gang: > > Still don't know if I would have enough left over for my helmet after > fitting out the MKIII wing. =3B-( > > john h > mkIII > West Yellowstone=2C MT - 24F this morning when I got up=2C but T-shirt we ather > under a dark blue cloudless sky this afternoon. Just got up from my nap a nd > headed out to find me some senior citizen grub. =3B-) > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ With Windows Live=2C you can organize=2C edit=2C and share your photos. http://www.windowslive.com/Desktop/PhotoGallery ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:02 PM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Microbes in the fuel Hi Russ, <> One of the things that the guy mentioned in his article which I did not pass on was that he found that the problem was well known in the marine business. I think they gave him the lead on the magnet thing.. Everything conspires to stop me flying. Lovely day to day could have flown except that I was sceduled at middayto take my wife to watch my stepson, who works for the BBC, filming locally. As it takes at least 3 hours to get to the field, fly and put her away that was the morning shot. This afternoon was shot because I had a church engagement around 7 this evening. Evenings are closing in and it is too dark to fly by about 8. Off to our cottage at the seaside tomorrow until Sunday The WX? Super for the next 3 days. Someone up there doesn`t like me. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 06:42:00 PM PST US From: "Tony Oldman" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Kolb list question? Recieved loud and clear downunder. great photo, name and all. Regards Downunder MK111c ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eugene Zimmerman" Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 8:24 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb list question? > > > Does anyone have any idea why some of my posts to the Kolb list show up in > the e-mail and others do not? > > I'm wondering if anyone received a post from me today via e-mail with a > pict attachment? The message subject was "Why a Kolb?" > > Also why do my posts show as from "guest" on the Web format when I have > been a long time member, perhaps for as long as the list was in existence? > > I noticed some others members also show up as "guest". > > In last November fund drive I did not make a financial contribution to > Matronics and am curious if this has anything to do with it, or if I'm > just having a problem with my computer or e-mail settings? > > I'm sending this message vie the web interface. > > Gene Zimmerman > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262325#262325 > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:46 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Retreiving the FSII From: "Richard Pike" Last week my nephew and I went to South Florida to acquire a donor airplane for Ed's Firestar II rebuild and my nephew's 67 Mercury Cougar restoration. His dad was giving him an old Ford pickup truck that had outlived most of it's usefulness (at least in West Palm Beach) so we drove down in a rental car to get it. After we got down there we constructed what my nephew called a "Mexican cattle rack" in the back of the truck (out of PVC pipe!) and tied all the Kolb parts to it. The first two pictures are at Punta Gorda and show the Kolb tied in place, snugged around a 351 engine tucked into the front part of the bed. The last picture shows two fine gentlemen who aided and assisted in this endeavor, George Alexander on my right, and the illustrious Beauford Teuton on my left. After checking out Beauford's Kleenex plane, he took us to lunch and sent us on our way well fed and with my nephew asking "Are all airplane guys that nice?" That's almost as good as it gets, but it actually does get better - the preacher gets to brag on his Lord a little bit - 30 miles after we got home, the next day, the center carrier bearing on the trucks 2 piece driveshaft failed. Is that not cool or what? Nobody ever gets to be that lucky... so it wern't luck... As soon as the weather gets too cold to ride motorcycles any more this fall, we cannibalize the Punta Gorda basket case and build Ed's FSII back together. Sweet. (Will probably have a left wing and tailfeathers left over, if you need those, let me know) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (42oldPoops Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262372#262372 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0442_large_209.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0443_large_203.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0448_large_122.jpg ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 07:54:11 PM PST US From: Eugene Zimmerman Subject: Fwd: Kolb-List: Why a Kolb? Sorry folks , This is a repeat post to test my Matronics account. reactivation. Begin forwarded message: > From: Eugene Zimmerman > Date: September 9, 2009 1:16:41 PM EDT > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Why a Kolb? > > Why a Kolb? > > A flying smile in the sky says it all. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.