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1. 05:14 AM - Re: Microbes in the fuel (pj.ladd)
2. 05:16 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Thom Riddle)
3. 05:18 AM - Re: q (pj.ladd)
4. 06:27 AM - P's and q's (Richard Girard)
5. 07:45 AM - Re: P's and q's (pj.ladd)
6. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed (zeprep251@aol.com)
7. 08:24 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Kirby, Dennis CTR USAF AFMC MDA/AL)
8. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed (Mike Welch)
9. 09:04 AM - Re: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed (zeprep251@aol.com)
10. 09:06 AM - Washing a FireFly with VG's (Jack B. Hart)
11. 09:49 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Thom Riddle)
12. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed (John Hauck)
13. 12:42 PM - Re: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed (b young)
14. 01:32 PM - got a little wet (dalewhelan)
15. 01:34 PM - Arial rainbow (dalewhelan)
16. 02:00 PM - Re: got a little wet (Thom Riddle)
17. 02:45 PM - Re: Arial rainbow (Mike Welch)
18. 02:49 PM - Three Forks of the Owyhee (Larry Cottrell)
19. 03:17 PM - Re: got a little wet (Richard Girard)
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Subject: | Re: Microbes in the fuel |
but enjoy the coast anyway. Isn't it getting coolish?>>
Hi Russ,
Great few days away, hot in the sun and the tide began coming in around 8 in
the morning so a lot of activity in the estuary. Drove into a fly in on
the way home and met a couple of guys from my field. Last time I was at that
fly in I flew the Challenger there.A Lovely sunny day, light breeze but the
temps are dropping. Needed my fleece by evening. North of England dropped 10
degrees yesterday.
Today it is overcast and breezy. Well it would be woudn`t it?
We often get a few weeks of smooth gentle winds around now. Evenings are
shortening. Pretty dusk ( dimpsy as we say in this part of the world) at
around 7.30. Have to get the plane out soon even if it is only to run the
engine.
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
The question of whether VGs will reduce stall speed has been answered over and
over in the affirmative. The less discussed question is whether there is a drag
penalty at higher speeds. Following are links to two tests done on a Bonanza
(same Bonanza for both tests), one for VGs and stall speed and the other VGs
and cruise speeds.
http://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/vortex/Vgs_stall_wide_screen.pdf
http://www.nar-associates.com/technical-flying/vortex/Vgs_cruise_wide_screen.pdf
Just because these tests were done on a Bonanza and not a Kolb does not mean that
the principles do not also apply to Kolbs. The magnitude of the effects may
be different but it is very unlikely (in my opinion) that there is no higher
speed cost/penalty when VGs are installed.
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Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
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List, my apologies. That msg was meant to go to Pat, not the List.>>
Sorry from me too. Banged off a reply without checking the address the
message came from.
Pat
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Pat, all, I don't mind hearing about you sojourn to the shore at all. After
all, you were longing for some Kolb time, so that makes it applicable to the
forum, doesn't it? I suppose it's a measure of your manners and geniality
that you feel the need to apologize at all.Pat, if it helps any, here in
Kansas we are under the influence of what the weather wizards call a
retrograde wind flow caused by a low pressure system centered in Texas that
is making the Great Plains as soggy and humid as anything in Jolly Old
England, just a bit warmer, that's all. I too am waiting on some decent
weather to pull the Kolb out and go do some flight testing.
Rick Girard
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it's a measure of your manners and geniality
that you feel the need to apologize at all.Pat, here in
Kansas we are under the influence of what the weather wizards call a
retrograde wind flow caused by a low pressure system centered in Texas
that
is making the Great Plains as soggy and humid as anything in Jolly Old
England, just a bit warmer, that's all. >>
Well thanks, I`m blushing.
Soggy and humid here it ain`t. We had the first of the Autumn (fall)
weather about 10 days ago after a miserable summer. As I was expaining
to Russ we often have a series of highs now for 2 or 3 weeks. Windless,
quiet days with the smoke from the leaf burning bonfires going straight
up. Kids are back at school. Great to get a break in while it is quiet.
Clear crisp sunny days with a bit of ground fog early in the morning.
The leaves are beginning to change colour but no frost yet so no leaves
are falling. The chestnut trees have got some sort of a disease and
they are turning brown. We had Dutch elm disease strike the trees some
years ago and tens of thousand of elms were lost .It would be a
catastrophe if the same thing hapenned to the chestnuts. Perfect flying
weather if you can get away in the afternoon but the long light
evenings which we get all summer are beginning to shorten.
heigh Ho. Fingers crossed.
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed |
Mike , They certainly are a giant pain when you clean your aircraft.
???? G.Aman
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From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 13, 2009 10:50 pm
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
Malcolm,
?
? I believe Chris is correct9about Manuevering speed affecting stall speed).? "Manuevering
speed" is the speed at which you can make (moderately) abrupt control
inputs, and not bend your airplane.? It must also be pointed out that these
abrupt inputs are limited to mild to moderate turbulence, if I recall correctly.
? A "high G loading" is suggesting an absolute maximum an airplane MAY?NOT recover
from, if you have to make a rapid control movement.
? (I haven't reached for my latest copy of the Airmen Information Manual, so don't
make a federal case, if I got a detail or two wrong)
?
? From what I have heard, read, researched, etc. VG's augment the slow end of the
flying spectrum.? They don't do much, if anything,?for the upper end.? The
VGs act on the wing's surface in?a similar?way?the dimples on a golf ball allow
it to?go MUCH further than a golf ball without dimples.? They, the VGs or dimples,
affect the boundary air going past the surface.
?
? On a separate note, some pilots have said they don't want VGs on their plane.?
Period!!!? Why is this so hard for some others to accept??
? For some purists, they do NOT want an airplane with whiskers, regardless of what
the whiskers may do.? They aren't interested in any of the benefits, real
or imagined, brought on by the addition of VGs.
? I don't recall hearing from any of these pilots?that VGs don't work as advertised,
they have simply said "No, thank you for me."
? It seems, for some inexplicable reason, there are those that simply won't rest
until everyone has?VGs.
?
? Personally , I DO plan on adding VGs, when I get back to work on my plane in
about two months.??I DO see their value, and am not worried about having the annoying
sharp edges on the wings.? But I certainly respect another guy's decision
to NOT use them!
? The science behind VGs is clear.? Their value is not in question when added properly
on "some" wings.? But, not everyone wants them.
?
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
?
?
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
> From: ces308@ldaco.com
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:08:09 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
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> I don't believe it has anything to do with the stall....it does ,however have
to do with when the airplane could start coming apart or at least start bending
something....
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Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Richard Girard wrote: << I'm interested in VG in two areas, ... Right
now my stall speeds are 37 clean, 35 half flaps, 32 full flaps. >>
Kolb Friends -
I am (finally) going to install VGs on my Mark-III. I have the set of
100 little polycarbonate VGs from LandShorter, which I bought 2 years
ago, and I figured it's time to finally give 'em a try! As long as my
Kolb is down this month for its annual, I am also planning to clean up
the airflow around the people-pod by covering the upper half of the aft
cabin sides with thin (1/16") Lexan panels.
The stall performance on my M3 Classic exactly matches Rick's numbers,
above. So I'm really looking forward to see what happens after I
install the VGs. I'll be installing them using double-stick carpet
tape, to allow me to easily remove them if I wish. No super glue.
Will provide a full flight-report when I take "Magic Bike" for its next
flight ...
Dennis Kirby
912ul, N93DK in
Cedar Crest, NM
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Subject: | Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed |
Gary=2C
I'm expecting that I'll use my big fluffy car brush=2C you know=2C the ki
nd that your garden hose attaches to.
That=2C or hire some teenager. LOL
Mike Welch
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
From: zeprep251@aol.com
Mike =2C They certainly are a giant pain when you clean your aircraft.
G.Aman
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From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sun=2C Sep 13=2C 2009 10:50 pm
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
Malcolm=2C
I believe Chris is correct9about Manuevering speed affecting stall speed)
. "Manuevering speed" is the speed at which you can make (moderately) abru
pt control inputs=2C and not bend your airplane. It must also be pointed o
ut that these abrupt inputs are limited to mild to moderate turbulence=2C i
f I recall correctly.
A "high G loading" is suggesting an absolute maximum an airplane MAY NOT
recover from=2C if you have to make a rapid control movement.
(I haven't reached for my latest copy of the Airmen Information Manual=2C
so don't make a federal case=2C if I got a detail or two wrong)
From what I have heard=2C read=2C researched=2C etc. VG's augment the slo
w end of the flying spectrum. They don't do much=2C if anything=2C for the
upper end. The VGs act on the wing's surface in a similar way the dimples
on a golf ball allow it to go MUCH further than a golf ball without dimple
s. They=2C the VGs or dimples=2C affect the boundary air going past the su
rface.
On a separate note=2C some pilots have said they don't want VGs on their
plane. Period!!! Why is this so hard for some others to accept?
For some purists=2C they do NOT want an airplane with whiskers=2C regardl
ess of what the whiskers may do. They aren't interested in any of the bene
fits=2C real or imagined=2C brought on by the addition of VGs.
I don't recall hearing from any of these pilots that VGs don't work as ad
vertised=2C they have simply said "No=2C thank you for me."
It seems=2C for some inexplicable reason=2C there are those that simply w
on't rest until everyone has VGs.
Personally =2C I DO plan on adding VGs=2C when I get back to work on my p
lane in about two months. I DO see their value=2C and am not worried about
having the annoying sharp edges on the wings. But I certainly respect ano
ther guy's decision to NOT use them!
The science behind VGs is clear. Their value is not in question when add
ed properly on "some" wings. But=2C not everyone wants them.
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
> From: ces308@ldaco.com
> Date: Sun=2C 13 Sep 2009 19:08:09 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
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> I don't believe it has anything to do with the stall....it does =2Choweve
r have to do with when the airplane could start coming apart or at least st
art bending something....
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Subject: | Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed |
Mike,
?No water available at the hanger so I use a trigger spray bottle and a towel to
clean .The towel thing is the pain.
? G.Aman
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From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 11:27 am
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
Gary,
?
? I'm expecting that I'll use my big fluffy car brush, you know, the kind that
your garden hose attaches to.
?
? That, or hire some teenager.? LOL
?
Mike Welch
?
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
From: zeprep251@aol.com
Mike , They certainly are a giant pain when you clean your aircraft.
???? G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Sep 13, 2009 10:50 pm
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
Malcolm,
?
? I believe Chris is correct9about Manuevering speed affecting stall speed).? "Manuevering
speed" is the speed at which you can make (moderately) abrupt control
inputs, and not bend your airplane.? It must also be pointed out that these
abrupt inputs are limited to mild to moderate turbulence, if I recall correctly.
? A "high G loading" is suggesting an absolute maximum an airplane MAY?NOT recover
from, if you have to make a rapid control movement.
? (I haven't reached for my latest copy of the Airmen Information Manual, so don't
make a federal case, if I got a detail or two wrong)
?
? From what I have heard, read, researched, etc. VG's augment the slow end of the
flying spectrum.? They don't do much, if anything,?for the upper end.? The
VGs act on the wing's surface in?a similar?way?the dimples on a golf ball allow
it to?go MUCH further than a golf ball without dimples.? They, the VGs or dimples,
affect the boundary air going past the surface.
?
? On a separate note, some pilots have said they don't want VGs on their plane.?
Period!!!? Why is this so hard for some others to accept??
? For some purists, they do NOT want an airplane with whiskers, regardless of what
the whiskers may do.? They aren't interested in any of the benefits, real
or imagined, brought on by the addition of VGs.
? I don't recall hearing from any of these pilots?that VGs don't work as advertised,
they have simply said "No, thank you for me."
? It seems, for some inexplicable reason, there are those that simply won't rest
until everyone has?VGs.
?
? Personally , I DO plan on adding VGs, when I get back to work on my plane in
about two months.??I DO see their value, and am not worried about having the annoying
sharp edges on the wings.? But I certainly respect another guy's decision
to NOT use them!
? The science behind VGs is clear.? Their value is not in question when added properly
on "some" wings.? But, not everyone wants them.
?
Mike Welch
MkIII CX
?
?
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed
> From: ces308@ldaco.com
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 19:08:09 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
>
> I don't believe it has anything to do with the stall....it does ,however have
to do with when the airplane could start coming apart or at least start bending
something....
>
> chris ambrose
> m3x/jab
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Subject: | Washing a FireFly with VG's |
The first couple of times I cleaned the FireFly, I used too much water. I
asked my hangar mate how he kept his little Cessna so bright and clean. He
showed me a spray water bottle and a roll of paper towels.
I adopted his technique and it works out very well. For the wing I spray an
area that covers my reach from three step stool. Then I use a square paper
towel folded into quarters, and sop up the water and dust. Then I spray the
area again and unfold the towel to expose the inside surfaces and mop up the
water an the remaining dust. Then I discard the towel, move the stool and
start again.
One has to be a little careful around the vg's but it is easy to clean
around them with a folded towel while holding the vg down with one
finger.
On the tail surfaces that receive a little oil spatter, I spray the affected
areas with a green cleaner before the water. And then I use the same
process on the tail.
Overall I can clean the FireFly with less that two dozen paper towels and
less than a pint of water.
FWIW
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Mike , They certainly are a giant pain when you clean your aircraft.
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Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
I went to the airport today and installed my VGs made of flashing aluminum. I taped
them on to the wings only, using black electrical tape over the center section
between the vanes, 6.5 " aft of leading edge to the peak (aft part) of the
VGs. That turns out to be 8.5" measured along the curvature of the upper camber.
I used 23 pair (I use the term pair because they are double vaned with an
included angle of 30 degrees) on each of my short wings (span is 22') spaced
evenly one pair in the valley between each rib and false rib, for a total of
46 pair. My ribs and false ribs are spaced on 4" centers so my VGs are spaced
4" on centers. I stopped just outside of the prop circle so there are none from
the fuselage centerline outwards for about 3' on each wing.
I made these many years ago for my early FS and later removed them. I had them
installed much further back on the FS and it decreased the stall speed a good
bit but at that location on my FS the stall became a little too abrupt for my
tastes. The design was copied from someone's design posted on this list more
than once.
It was too windy to fly today to get reliable speeds so I can't yet report the
results, but will at the first opportunity. I don't know if any SS flyer has ever
installed VGs on an SS so this should be interesting. I'll be checking powered
required (rpm) at my normal cruise speed too to see if there is noticable
degradation in airspeed at my normal cruise power setting.
Stay tuned.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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Subject: | Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed |
Beauford/Gang:
Took the words right out of my mouth.
When the air gets rough enough to be uncomfortable in my mkIII, I
automatically reduce power and airspeed to compensate. I have a
maneuver speed arc on my ASI, but don't need to look at it. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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when the air gets rough enough to be looking for maneuvering speed in
a Kolb, you'll likely be lucky to keep the needle bounce within 5 mph
anyway...
my opinion...worth what ye paid fer it...
beauford
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Subject: | Re: VGs and Manuvering Speed |
when the air gets rough enough to be looking for maneuvering speed in a
Kolb, you'll likely be lucky to keep the needle bounce within 5 mph
anyway...
my opinion...worth what ye paid fer it...
beauford
FF-076
Brandon FL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The time I needed maneuvering speed this spring.. The air speed indicator
was bouncing back and forth between 40 and 90 several times before we got
out of the rough air. I was too busy flying,,, but I honestly thing that
the gps would have shown very little change. I don't want to experience
that again to find out.
Boyd Young
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Subject: | got a little wet |
rain before sunset
Wish I knew how to shrink the photo
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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This is near Pleasant Valley Airport (P48) Peoria, Az
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503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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Subject: | Re: got a little wet |
Don't Windows PCs come with image editing software? Surely they must, no?
Perhaps some Windows savvy Kolber can point you to an easy to use image editing
freeware that will work on your PC.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
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Dale=2C
Please call me=2C and I'll see if I can help you reduce the image file si
zes of your photos.
I have to do it occationally.
Mike Welch
573-480-9802
> Subject: Kolb-List: Arial rainbow
> From: dalewhelan@earthlink.net
> Date: Mon=2C 14 Sep 2009 13:34:48 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
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> This is near Pleasant Valley Airport (P48) Peoria=2C Az
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> 503 powered Firestar II
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Subject: | Three Forks of the Owyhee |
Gang,
As you know by now, John Hauck has been here for his annual get dirty
time of the year where we do on the ground what we do from the air in
the spring at our annual Kolb Fly in at the Rock House..
I scouted from the Firestar a route down into the Three Forks area.
John has flown over it every time that he goes home in the spring and
wanted to put some boots on the ground for a change.
I have a blog that I created for my family and friends that are
interested in the things that I do here in this fantastic area, that
covers every thing from my flights to hunting with my hawks, and the
trip that I take here. You are welcome to look through it, but not
obligated.
http://owyheeflyer.blogspot.com/
Larry C
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Subject: | Re: got a little wet |
Dale, get Irfanview. It's free from Tucows and other download sites. Here is
you photo at various sizes. All three done in about as many minutes.
Rick
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:32 PM, dalewhelan <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>wrote:
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> rain before sunset
> Wish I knew how to shrink the photo
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> Dale Whelan
> 503 powered Firestar II
> Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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Subject: | Re: got a little wet |
Or you can do effects.
Rick
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dale, get Irfanview. It's free from Tucows and other download sites. Here
> is you photo at various sizes. All three done in about as many minutes.
> Rick
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> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:32 PM, dalewhelan <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>wrote:
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>> rain before sunset
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>> Dale Whelan
>> 503 powered Firestar II
>> Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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Subject: | Re: got a little wet |
Or be Dave Bowman falling into the monolith.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
> Or you can do effects.
> Rick
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> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> Dale, get Irfanview. It's free from Tucows and other download sites. Here
>> is you photo at various sizes. All three done in about as many minutes.
>> Rick
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>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 3:32 PM, dalewhelan <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>wrote:
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>>> rain before sunset
>>> Wish I knew how to shrink the photo
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>>> Dale Whelan
>>> 503 powered Firestar II
>>> Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263007#263007
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Subject: | Re: got a little wet |
In the menu settings for most digital cameras is an image mode option. Yours is
probably set to a high quality setting right now. Change it to a "PC screen"
1074 x 768 pixel setting and they will be good for email or websites.
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Jimmy Young
FS II, HKS 700
N7043P
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It was raining around my airport on Sunday, but I managed to avoid these
localized showers, one of them smack dab in the middle of this image.
If you look closely, about 75% of the way to the right, you'll see
downtown Houston on the horizon.
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Hello Kolbers,,
Here is some pictures of what a little summer storm looks like in
Fla. My good friend and I had flown up to Crystal River Fl .He flew his
flight star and I had my Mk111xtra. About 10 minutes after lift off to
return to Brooksville this is the first storm we saw, went around that
one but there was 3 more of them. By the time we got back to
Brooksville we could only see half of the airport, the other half of the
field was solid rain and you could not see the other side of the field.
Poor planning on our part, you have to watch these storms down here they
can come up in a hurry.
Bill Futrell
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Subject: | re:image resizer free download from microsoft |
This works good for me to resize pictures. jswan
Image Resizer
This PowerToy enables you to resize one or many image files with a
right-click.
_http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx_
(http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/Downloads/powertoys/Xppowertoys.mspx)
do not archive
JIM SWAN
firestar ll, 503, N663S
Eaton Rapids, Mi. 48827
PH 517-663-8488 runway 2300' E & W (42-28.58N 084-44.69 W )
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