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1. 04:14 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Thom Riddle)
2. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (pj.ladd)
3. 07:18 AM - Re: An Older but Good Basic GPS (no aviation data base) (pj.ladd)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Re: Vortex Generators (pj.ladd)
5. 07:25 AM - Re: Help please - can't take off (planecrazzzy)
6. 07:34 AM - Re: Vortex Generators (Thom Riddle)
7. 08:47 AM - Re: An Older but Good Basic GPS (no aviation data base) (Richard Girard)
8. 08:49 AM - Cross wind capability of the Mk IIIC (Richard Girard)
9. 09:14 AM - Re: Help please - can't take off (cristalclear13)
10. 09:56 AM - Re: Cross wind capability of the Mk IIIC (Thom Riddle)
11. 11:19 AM - Sedona, Az (dalewhelan)
12. 11:21 AM - Sedona, AZ (dalewhelan)
13. 11:35 AM - Re: Re: Help please - can't take off (John Hauck)
14. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: Help please - can't take off (possums)
15. 12:13 PM - Crash (John Hauck)
16. 12:52 PM - Re: Re: Wingtips (russ kinne)
17. 01:06 PM - Re: Crash (Robert Laird)
18. 01:11 PM - Re: Crash (Jim Kmet)
19. 01:12 PM - Re: Crash (Jack B. Hart)
20. 01:49 PM - Re: Crash (robert bean)
21. 01:52 PM - Fuel tank for FF (Dave Kulp)
22. 01:53 PM - Re: Crash (Jim Kmet)
23. 02:59 PM - Re: Fuel tank for FF (dalewhelan)
24. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: Fuel tank for FF (Beauford T)
25. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Fuel tank for FF (robert bean)
26. 05:07 PM - Re: Sedona, Az (JetPilot)
27. 05:18 PM - Re: Fuel tank for FF (possums)
28. 06:19 PM - Re: Fuel tank for FF (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
29. 06:30 PM - Re: Sedona, Az (dalewhelan)
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
John H.
You are correct, of course. My Kolb doesn't have an artificial horizon either so
staying out of the clouds is always the better choice.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
The decent rate in a mush in my mkIII is about 2,000 fpm.>>
Grief ! Thats about twice the climb out speed. Not an experiment I want to
try.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: An Older but Good Basic GPS (no aviation data base) |
Garmin has forced Magellan out of the market now; >>
Hi Russ,
i had a Magellan on my cat. Seemed to be OK but not easy to use. Manual
entry of lat and long No GPS was easy to use back then.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
use the non-stalled full up elevator to get down slowly and relatively
safely,>>
Hmm! I dont think I would like to try it.
The AN2 didn`t actually carry out the procedure. I assume that it wouldn`t
do the undercart much good, but you could probably walk away. which in that
position is the best you can hope for.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Help please - can't take off |
Hi Crystal,
I had a problem like that before...
I don't think it has been mentioned here....
Check the "Main Jet"....
I had one come loose, and the needle couldn't close enough....
Had a heck of a time tracing it down.... But when I saw it was
loose... I knew I found the problem...
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Gotta Fly...
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New Kolb Forum - No JP http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kolbaircraft/
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| Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators |
Now you have me wondering what my sink rate is at idle power at MCA. I know it
is about 900 fpm (no flaps) at 65 mph, my normal approach speed. I will find out
next time I fly.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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| Subject: | Re: An Older but Good Basic GPS (no aviation data base) |
Did the GPS help or hinder the cat with mousing? My cat keeps losing the
mice under the couch while he's tormenting them. It might work better to put
the GPS on the mouse, come to think of it.
Rick Girard
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:53 AM, pj.ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> Garmin has forced Magellan out of the market now; >>
>
> Hi Russ,
>
> i had a Magellan on my cat. Seemed to be OK but not easy to use. Manual
> entry of lat and long No GPS was easy to use back then.
>
> Pat
>
>
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| Subject: | Cross wind capability of the Mk IIIC |
Took Zulu Delta out Saturday afternoon to see how she handles 90 degree
crosswinds. Wind was 8 to 15 (guessing based on report from airport 15 miles
away and wind sock activity) Found that it was better to carry a little
power, about 3000 rpm (750 at the prop), for rudder effectiveness. When I
pulled back to idle on a high approach and put her in a slip it took full
rudder deflection to keep her headed down the runway straight. Less rudder
seemed to be required when I carried a little power. Looking at the plane
afterward and trying to reason it out, I speculated that when the prop is at
idle and the stick is forward to slip nose low the rudder is blanked out
pretty well.Sound reasonable?
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: Help please - can't take off |
These are all great suggestions. I've made a big list of things to check. I'm
going to try to work the easiest ones first.
Since I haven't cleaned the air filters in 50 hrs and over a year and half I'll
start with that. I also noticed that the vent tube I purchased from the hardware
store down the street has gotten a little mushy on the bottom where the holes
are. I will order a new one from Aircraft Spruce along with the air filter
cleaner/oil kit.
I will keep you all informed of what I find. I plan to do one thing at a time
to narrow down what the issue really is.
If it isn't the air filter, I'll go to the next thing on my list. Sure wish I
had a few days off from work. It's getting dark so early now too. [Rolling Eyes]
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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| Subject: | Re: Cross wind capability of the Mk IIIC |
I'm having a hard time visualizing the rudder on a pusher getting blanked out by
any sort of slip.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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Turning final Sedona 3
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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Time to leave
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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| Subject: | Re: Help please - can't take off |
I will order a new one from Aircraft Spruce along with the air filter
cleaner/oil kit.
>
> Cristal Waters
Cristal/Gang:
Local motorcycle shop will have K&N filter oil. Make sure you get it for
cotton and not foam filters.
As far as cleaning, I have used gasoline, a coffee can, and a little
agitation to clean K&N filters. Sling them around a little to get excess
gasoline out of them, then set them in the sun to air dry, and finally oil.
Some say gasoline will ruin the cotton filter element, I don't think so.
Two strokes keep them wet with gasoline and oil when they are running.
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
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| Subject: | Re: Help please - can't take off |
At 12:13 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote:
><cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
>
>These are all great suggestions. I've made a big list of things to
>check. I'm going to try to work the easiest ones first.
>Since I haven't cleaned the air filters in 50 hrs and over a year
>and half I'll start with that. I also noticed that the vent tube I
>purchased from the hardware store down the street has gotten a
>little mushy on the bottom where the holes are.
If those holes get plugged up - the engine will act like you are talking about.
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Gang:
Is this one of our guys?
john h
mkIII
Rock House, Oregon
IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 208NS Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK III
EXTRA
Date: 09/20/2009 Time: 1434
Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
Damage: Unknown
LOCATION
City: NORTH STONINGTON State: CT Country: US
DESCRIPTION
AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT
INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
# Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
1
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Dana
Who was it in the Xtra?
Waiting to know,
Russ
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Not in the database that I'm accumulating...
FAA registration is to:
PATRICK, DANIEL L
Street PO BOX 303
City NORTH STONINGTON State CONNECTICUT
County NEW LONDON Zip Code 06359-0303
Country UNITED STATES
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
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> Gang:
>
> Is this one of our guys?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon
>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 208NS Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK III EXTRA
> Date: 09/20/2009 Time: 1434
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
>
> LOCATION
> City: NORTH STONINGTON State: CT Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk: 1
>
>
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Dan Patrick.
Newly built MK-3X Was not his first flight. Low time Light sport pilot.
I know no more details, but will try to find out.
Jim Kmet
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Crash
>
> Gang:
>
> Is this one of our guys?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon
>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 208NS Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK III
> EXTRA
> Date: 09/20/2009 Time: 1434
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
>
> LOCATION
> City: NORTH STONINGTON State: CT Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk: 1
>
>
>
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John,
>From the N number
PATRICK DANIEL L
Street PO BOX 303
City NORTH STONINGTON State CONNECTICUT
County NEW LONDON Zip Code 06359-0303
Country UNITED STATES
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
At 01:12 PM 9/21/09 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Gang:
>
>Is this one of our guys?
>
>john h
>mkIII
>Rock House, Oregon
>
>
>IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 208NS Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK III
>EXTRA
> Date: 09/20/2009 Time: 1434
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
>
>LOCATION
> City: NORTH STONINGTON State: CT Country: US
>
>DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT
>
>INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0 Unk:
>1
>
>
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a little news:
http://www.courant.com/community/hc-north-stonington-aircraft-
crashes-0921,0,3842844.story
Bb
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On 21, Sep 2009, at 3:57 PM, Robert Laird wrote:
>
> Not in the database that I'm accumulating...
>
> FAA registration is to:
>
> PATRICK, DANIEL L
> Street PO BOX 303
> City NORTH STONINGTON State CONNECTICUT
> County NEW LONDON Zip Code 06359-0303
> Country UNITED STATES
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Gang:
>>
>> Is this one of our guys?
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Rock House, Oregon
>>
>>
>>
>> IDENTIFICATION
>> Regis#: 208NS Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK
>> III EXTRA
>> Date: 09/20/2009 Time: 1434
>>
>> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N
>> Missing: N
>> Damage: Unknown
>>
>> LOCATION
>> City: NORTH STONINGTON State: CT Country: US
>>
>> DESCRIPTION
>> AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT
>>
>> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
>> # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min:
>> 0 Unk: 1
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel tank for FF |
Does anyone have info on sources for buying a fuel tank for a FireFly?
Mfrs, sales outlets, websites, etc. I'd appreciate anything you could
provide with various size and shape options.
Thanks,
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
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http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=5d675b44-34d3-42f4-a655-443e0aa41494
http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=5d675b44-34d3-42f4-a655-443e0aa41494
Dan was not a kolb-lister
Jim Kmet
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:12 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Crash
>
> Gang:
>
> Is this one of our guys?
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Rock House, Oregon
>
>
> IDENTIFICATION
> Regis#: 208NS Make/Model: EXP Description: KOLB MARK III
> EXTRA
> Date: 09/20/2009 Time: 1434
>
> Event Type: Incident Highest Injury: None Mid Air: N Missing: N
> Damage: Unknown
>
> LOCATION
> City: NORTH STONINGTON State: CT Country: US
>
> DESCRIPTION
> AIRCRAFT CRASHED IN A WOODED AREA, NORTH STONINGTON, CT
>
> INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 0
> # Crew: 1 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
> Unk: 1
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank for FF |
Not sure this is what you want to hear. I just got one from Travis at Kolb for
my Firestar II. He has 5 or 6 gallon tanks. He says he has not had troubles with
the 5 gallon tank. I think that may mean they last better than the 6 gallon
tanks.
Price seemed pretty good to me
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank for FF |
He says he has not had troubles with the 5 gallon tank. I think that may mean
they last better than the 6 gallon tanks.
------------------------------
Fer what it is worth...
In my experience, the 6 gallon tanks have substantially thinner and more flexible
walls than the 5 gallon items. The 6 gallon tank I got from TNK became so
"flabby" after about a year and a half that I became uneasy flying with it. It
is
still in the airplane, but I don't like it.
Weak and undisciplined beauford (willing to trade life for 18 more minutes - kinda
like matrimony)...
FF-076
Brandon, FL
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank for FF |
flabby? Sure those wuz the tanks yer talking about?
BB, a few parts gone flabby too.
My 5 gal tanks have to be 20 years old. Do I think about one popping
a seam? Once in a while.
On 21, Sep 2009, at 7:10 PM, Beauford T wrote:
> <beauford173@verizon.net>
>
>
> <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>
>
> He says he has not had troubles with the 5 gallon tank. I think
> that may mean
> they last better than the 6 gallon tanks.
> ------------------------------
>
> Fer what it is worth...
>
> In my experience, the 6 gallon tanks have substantially thinner and
> more flexible
> walls than the 5 gallon items. The 6 gallon tank I got from TNK
> became so
> "flabby" after about a year and a half that I became uneasy flying
> with it. It is
> still in the airplane, but I don't like it.
>
> Weak and undisciplined beauford (willing to trade life for 18 more
> minutes - kinda
> like matrimony)...
> FF-076
> Brandon, FL
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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Neat pictures Dale, did you beat the storm out ???
Mike
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"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank for FF |
At 04:21 PM 9/21/2009, you wrote:
>
>Does anyone have info on sources for buying a fuel tank for a FireFly?
>Mfrs, sales outlets, websites, etc. I'd appreciate anything you
>could provide with various size and shape options.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Dave Kulp
>Bethlehem, PA
>FireFly 11DMK
>I got mine from a place in Florida called
>Rotational molding Inc.Phone 914-534-1766
>Don't know if they have a web site or not.
>Plastic powder is poured
>into a mold and then heated as it turns. Comes out in
>one solid piece.They make
>"Gray Water" storage tanks for RVs.
>You may like this site better http://www.ronco-plastics.net/marinetanks.html
>It seems to have more choices. I like to be able to design my own
>stuff and I can see thru it (about 1/8+ thick?)
>My plane is wider than Firefly - so you would have to measure the
>space you have and figure out how to get it in. The holes are
>drilled and the fittings have to
>be spun on at the factory with some kind of machine that melts them
>to the tank.
>They are made of the same plastic that the tanks are made of.
>If you tell them you are using it on anything that flys - they won't
>sell it to you.
>We have used these tanks for 12 years, mine for 10+ and no problems
>if the fittings are done right "raised" so you can also put a
>clamp on the outside of the fitting after your screw in the
>connections (no leaks).
Don't have any good pictures of the tank by itself.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank for FF |
are you looking for the 5 gallon tank that you get with a kit????? ?I happen to
have a few of them kicking around
Ellery in Maine
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From: Dave Kulp <undoctor@ptd.net>
Sent: Mon, Sep 21, 2009 4:21 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Fuel tank for FF
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Does anyone have info on sources for buying a fuel tank for a FireFly? Mfrs, sales
outlets, websites, etc. I'd appreciate anything you could provide with various
size and shape options.?
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Thanks,?
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Dave Kulp?
Bethlehem, PA?
FireFly 11DMK?
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