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1. 07:15 AM - Re: Re: HKS-700 on a Mark III or extra (zeprep251@aol.com)
2. 09:45 AM - Re: Re: HKS-700 on a Mark III or extra (Larry Cottrell)
3. 02:21 PM - There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (Richard Girard)
4. 02:56 PM - Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (Denny Rowe)
5. 04:29 PM - Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (Denny Rowe)
6. 04:56 PM - Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (robert bean)
7. 05:00 PM - Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (possums)
8. 05:10 PM - Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (Larry Cottrell)
9. 05:40 PM - Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (Richard Girard)
10. 07:11 PM - Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) (Carl Tosh)
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| Subject: | Re: HKS-700 on a Mark III or extra |
Larry,
?One more plus,the fuel burn of the HKS. Just slightly more than half of the 503.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HKS-700 on a Mark III or extra
So IMO, although the HKS makes more power than a 503, but less than a
582, unless I lived in flat Midwest country, probably the HKS engine on a MKIII
is not a happy choice.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P
(420ldPoops)
Even though the HKS makes more
power than the 503, I find that it is offset by the additional weight. I?
can fly faster with the HKS, but I cannot get off the ground as quick. The only
plus is the "apparent" safety factor of the four stroke, and the longer
TBO.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: HKS-700 on a Mark III or extra |
Oh yeah, some how I forgot that. :-/ I just got back from the Alvord
Desert where some of the Top Fun Flyer's will be going for a weekend fly
out. I had a head wind of about 10 MPH going so ran full power cruise,
(5750) I burned 4 gallons for the round trip of 1.4 hours. The BLM is
burning the Steen's Mts. and visibility is terrible. It almost took the
GPS to find the place. :-/
I only took one picture the whole trip. There were a couple of wild
horses on the rim overlooking the Desert.
----- Original Message -----
From: zeprep251@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HKS-700 on a Mark III or extra
Larry,
One more plus,the fuel burn of the HKS. Just slightly more than half
of the 503.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 11:41 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: HKS-700 on a Mark III or extra
So IMO, although the HKS makes more power than a 503, but less than a
582, unless I lived in flat Midwest country, probably the HKS engine on
a MKIII is not a happy choice.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Even though the HKS makes more power than the 503, I find that it is
offset by the additional weight. I can fly faster with the HKS, but I
cannot get off the ground as quick. The only plus is the "apparent"
safety factor of the four stroke, and the longer TBO.
Larry
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| Subject: | There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
Went to a Young Eagles event to get pictures for the newsletter, free
breakfast, pilot shmoozing, etc. Held up by ground fog, took off out of
Cherokee on 35 held a crab against a west northwest wind only to arrive at
Augusta to find them using 18 for ease in dispatching Young Eagles in spite
of the quartering down wind. Made a good landing with the traffic and was
having a real nice time until one of the club members lost it on landing and
ground looped his Aeronca, tearing off a main gear and closing the airport
while the FAA did their business. Field finally opened and all tail dragger
pilots agreed even though the wind was almost due west the downwind
component was still problematic. I taxied to 36, did runup and off. Climb to
700' heading for 1000' on downwind departure when things went quiet. Check
fuel valve, on the correct tank, try for a restart since no symptoms of
seizure, nada. Turn toward runway, maintain 55 to 60, looking good except
for the idiot in the nose dragger taking off downwind. Went over the top of
him at about 150' and slightly to the side just in case he didn't see me,
made the runway for a relatively uneventful landing. Airport guys on duty
for the fly in helped me push Zulu Delta back to parking. Walked around
thanking Spencer and my lucky stars for about 10 minutes then started trying
to diagnose the problem. Found that I had fuel from tank to selector valve
and from boost pump to carbs, but no fuel from valve to pump. This is why I
use the clear blue fuel line and change it out when it gets a brownish tint.
Turned selector valve to all options no fuel drawn into empty lines. Pulled
fuel line from inlet side of pump and blew back through lines. Reconnected
and fuel pulled all the way to pump. Engine started normally. Paced around
some more and decided to make a field fix and fly home if possible. Went to
the auto parts store for a fuel filter to put in line from tank to selector
valve figuring if there was a piece of junk in the tank it would be trapped
in the filter and not clog valve. Engine started normally, climbed to 3500'
over field and flew the 20 miles home.Things I learned;
Despite my assumption that 4 to 1 ratio gear box would let the prop wind
mill, it didn't. Airport guys reported seeing the prop stopped as I was
gliding in. So much for that idea.
Should have taken the tank out to mount fuel gage sender rather than
settling for vacuuming out after installation. Dumb.
Never even thought about the stupid BRS, too busy flying the aircraft.
Rick Girard
do not archive
PS Spencer was right, in an emergency, FIRST fly the airplane.
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| Subject: | Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
Despite my assumption that 4 to 1 ratio gear box would let the prop
wind mill, it didn't. Airport guys reported seeing the prop stopped as I
was gliding in. So much for that idea.
Rick Girard
do not archive
Rick,
The higher the gear ratio, the less likely the prop will back drive
the engine and windmill. The engine has a 4 to 1 mechanical advantage
on the prop, no way that sucker is going to windmill at our speeds.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
Rick,
Forgot to say Great job on getting down safe!
Glad you're OK.
Denny
----- Original Message -----
From: Denny Rowe
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy)
Despite my assumption that 4 to 1 ratio gear box would let the prop
wind mill, it didn't. Airport guys reported seeing the prop stopped as I
was gliding in. So much for that idea.
Rick Girard
do not archive
Rick,
The higher the gear ratio, the less likely the prop will back drive
the engine and windmill. The engine has a 4 to 1 mechanical advantage
on the prop, no way that sucker is going to windmill at our speeds.
Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
Rick, you think the chunk is gone? I hate when those seeds of doubt
get planted.
I could have grown a garden with them this year.
BTW, the Aeronca legs shouldn't break with a mere groundloop unless
he hit a rock.
They have a single bolt at the bottom of the cabin that fastens the
whole works together.
It takes a heavy shear load with hard landings and will eventually fail.
A lot of them are never removed for inspection even for a recover.
BB
On 26, Sep 2009, at 7:26 PM, Denny Rowe wrote:
> Rick,
> Forgot to say Great job on getting down safe!
> Glad you're OK.
>
> Denny
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Denny Rowe
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy)
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> Despite my assumption that 4 to 1 ratio gear box would let the prop
> wind mill, it didn't. Airport guys reported seeing the prop stopped
> as I was gliding in. So much for that idea.
>
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
>
>
> Rick,
> The higher the gear ratio, the less likely the prop will back drive
> the engine and windmill. The engine has a 4 to 1 mechanical
> advantage on the prop, no way that sucker is going to windmill at
> our speeds.
>
> Denny Rowe
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| Subject: | Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
At 05:11 PM 9/26/2009, you wrote:
>Never even thought about the stupid BRS, too busy flying the aircraft.
>
>Rick Girard
>do not archive
>
>PS Spencer was right, in an emergency, FIRST fly the airplane.
>
That's normal - most of the time, when you're that close to the ground, you
won't remember you have a chute.
More than once for me.
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| Subject: | Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
Hopefully you aren't disappointed that you didn't pull the cord for the
chute. Now if the wing had fallen off, I could see that you might be a
bit put out that you didn't pull the chute, but other wise, I would
think you would be happy with your handling of the situation.
Larry
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From: possums
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy)
At 05:11 PM 9/26/2009, you wrote:
>Never even thought about the stupid BRS, too busy flying the
aircraft.
>
>Rick Girard
>do not archive
>
>PS Spencer was right, in an emergency, FIRST fly the airplane.
>
That's normal - most of the time, when you're that close to the
ground, you
won't remember you have a chute.
More than once for me.
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| Subject: | Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
Yeah, I'm pretty pleased, but then it worked out, right? As for the chuck of
whatever, no, the tank has to come out and be thoroughly cleaned. It's a
week to payday and more flying time so I have something to do. :-) I don't
know about the Aeronca, I wasn't watching. I visited the crash site, it
ended up in a ditch, and it looked like the lugs had failed, but I didn't
get a chance to look that closely.
Rick
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>wrote:
> Hopefully you aren't disappointed that you didn't pull the cord for the
> chute. Now if the wing had fallen off, I could see that you might be a bit
> put out that you didn't pull the chute, but other wise, I would think you
> would be happy with your handling of the situation.
> Larry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> *Sent:* Saturday, September 26, 2009 5:56 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy)
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> At 05:11 PM 9/26/2009, you wrote:
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> >Never even thought about the stupid BRS, too busy flying the aircraft.
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> >Rick Girard
> >do not archive
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> >PS Spencer was right, in an emergency, FIRST fly the airplane.
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> That's normal - most of the time, when you're that close to the ground, you
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| Subject: | Re: There I was, FDAH (fat, dumb, and happy) |
Rick, sounds as if things were real exciting today at Augusta Airport. I started
to go to the flyin but, my grandson wanted to go fishing. We went to Butler
Lake and youngin landed a 2lb. bass he was very excited. I would rather have
went to flyin and got him a young eagles ride, he's 9yrs. old. I maybe would have
met you. I live out by Smillyburg east of Douglass. We know some of same people,
the Alleys, Lawrance, WWII pilot and his son Terry. Lawrance flies clipped
wing Cub and Terry now has a Kitfox Lite, with half VW. Terry goes to Selby
field ever once in a while. I have a Micro Mong biplane with an A084a (Hercules
engine) and I'm rebuilding an old Ultrastar. So glad you didn't get hurt today.
Carl
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