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1. 12:10 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? ()
2. 03:23 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (pj.ladd)
3. 04:13 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (pj.ladd)
4. 05:12 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (John Hauck)
5. 05:14 AM - Re: Powerfin props (Thom Riddle)
6. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (robert bean)
7. 05:41 AM - Re: 2 stroke carb synchronizing (zeprep251@aol.com)
8. 05:52 AM - You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition 3.0 (pj.ladd)
9. 06:11 AM - Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition 3.0 (zeprep251@aol.com)
10. 06:42 AM - Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition 3.0 (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
11. 07:31 AM - Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter (Thom Riddle)
12. 07:45 AM - Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter (ces308)
13. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (b young)
14. 09:36 AM - Re: Heel brakes or ??? (JetPilot)
15. 10:04 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Matt Dralle)
16. 11:07 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (russ kinne)
17. 11:19 AM - Re: Heel brakes or ??? (WillUribe@aol.com)
18. 01:40 PM - Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Dana)
19. 06:17 PM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Dennis Souder)
20. 10:15 PM - Re: Re: Props (DAquaNut@aol.com)
21. 11:25 PM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? ()
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
I will go along with that.If it wasnt for that line of thought we would all
be flying the same type and colour airoplane , driving the same make and
colour car ,living in the same shape house in the location someone thought
we should be ,now how much fun would that be ?
Innovation is where progress comes from, innovation is people being
individuals, innovation is daring to be different , without this we would
all be sitting on the ground looking skywards thinking "woulnd mind being up
there" We are where we are because people like Homer did not accept best
practice and dared to be innovative , the rest is history .
Downunder
New Zealand { home of Richard Pearse} who left the ground in powered fight
in March 1903.Had some control problems.
MK111c
Heal brakes . Work well . Land on grass and take off on grass 99% of the
time
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From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Heel brakes or ???
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> about all the duplicates,,, new laptop and software... my bad
>
> do not archive
> Boyd
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>
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
New Zealand { home of Richard Pearse} who left the ground in powered fight
in March 1903.Had some control problems.>>
Yeah!
If you seen the bits of his plane in the Auckland Museum? As unlikely a
pile of scrap to make it into the air as you can imagine. That propeller!
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
a lot of plane manufactures have gone to nose dragging... that does not
infer that all tail draggers are obsolete, or sub standard, just
different.>>
No, of course it doen`t but the tricyle gear is so obnviously better in all
respects that all other things being equal you wouldn`t choose a taildragger
would you.?
Cheers
Pat
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
> the tricyle gear is so obnviously better in all
> respects that all other things being equal you wouldn`t choose a
> taildragger would you.?
>
> Pat
Patrick/Gang:
For my kind of flying, my mkIII tail dragger does a much better job than a
tri gear.
john h
mkIII
Wendover, UT - Wish I hadn't eaten all those crab legs last night. Ugh!
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Subject: | Re: Powerfin props |
A couple weeks ago I emailed PowerFin asking the question directly and after about
a week finally got a response. They confirmed that they are out of business.
Sad day when a good company with a great product goes down the tubes.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Pat, throwing a little kindling on a dwindling flame?
BB
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On 3, Oct 2009, at 7:13 AM, pj.ladd wrote:
>
> a lot of plane manufactures have gone to nose dragging... that
> does not
> infer that all tail draggers are obsolete, or sub standard, just
> different.>>
>
> No, of course it doen`t but the tricyle gear is so obnviously
> better in all respects that all other things being equal you
> wouldn`t choose a taildragger would you.?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 2 stroke carb synchronizing |
The manometer has to be the most accurate method .But for me,two new round no.2
pencils worked fine.
? G.Aman former 503dcdi carb synchronizer.My spell checker claims that we have
invented a new word!
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:31 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 2 stroke carb synchronizing
Oops! Hopefully I caught this before someone goes out to their plane and tries
using my version of the Rotax instructions.
4, Screw in idle adjustment screw on carb connected to the fluid column with the
lower level?.....WRONG, should be higher level. Higher level means more vacuum,
opening the throttle lowers vacuum.
Screw in idle adjustment screw on carb connected to the fluid column with the lower
level?....Well, at least I'm consistent, again should be higher level, same
reason.
Sorry guys and gals, typed faster than my brain could follow and confused manometer
and vacuum gauges. Didn't catch it until I was expanding the email text for
an article in the Chapter 88 newsletter this evening.
My apologies if I caused any confusion.
Rick Girard
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 8:09 PM, Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com> wrote:
Here you go guys and gals. I'm not sure why Rotax has mechanical synching after
pneumatic. I do it the other way, that's how it's spec'd for the 912 and my HKS.
This is really so simple, it just seems intimidating until you do it once. As with
all things done with a running engine, tie the plane down and have an assistant
ready to hit mag switch(es) if required. Before you start raise throttle
cable boots so you can get at the cable adjustment screw. Give each cable a tug
to see how much slop there is. When you get to cable adjustment that's most
likely the one that will have to be adjusted.
1. Adjust idle air screw per Rotax or Bing for your engine / carb combo.
2. Warm up engine to operating temperature
3. Hook up manometer (incidentally, someone on the list suggested two stroke oil
instead of water, I used transmission fluid because I had it loaded into a pressure
gun to fill the brake system on my trike. That is the easiest way to get
the fluid into the tube. Using oil also makes the levels a little slower acting
so you make an adjustment and wait a bit for the fluid column to react. It's
also less likely to get sucked into the engine if one carb is severely out
of synch to the other. To get the initial level set before you hook up to the
primer port blow into the tube with the higher level until they're even.
4. Start engine and let idle. Screw in idle adjustment screw on carb connected
to the fluid column with the lower level until the columns are even. If that makes
your idle speed too high adjust each screw back out until you get the idle
speed you want and both fluid columns are even. If you do have to back out an
idle adjustment screw make sure you haven't brought the throttle cable up tight
so that the carb piston is no longer setting on the adjustment screw.
5. Set RPM to 3000. Loosen adjustment screw on the top of the carb with the lower
fluid column and screw out adjustment until columns are almost even and tighten
lock nut (this will raise the column very slightly, which is why you don't
want to get them exactly equal. It's not much but you are after perfection,
after all).
6. Shut off engine, disconnect manometer lines and plug with an AN 3 screw so the
manometer stays clean, replace primer plugs or lines.
I did my 582 while I had the wings off as spinning props make me nervous. I put
an eyebolt (my local surplus store sells them cheap) in the board so I could
safety wire the manometer to the aircraft, you could just as easily drill a hole
and run safety wire through it.
That's it.
Rick Girard
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Subject: | You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter |
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Thom,
you kindly sent pics of your exhaust set up. Here is mine showing the
proximity of the exhaust to the oil pressre sender. Also a pic of my
dreaded flap lever. I am getting used to it but it really is pretty
dreadful.
Pat
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Subject: | Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter |
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Pat,
Don't mean to intrude but,have you considered a 45 degree fitting into the block
and then the sender into that?
G.Aman
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From: pj.ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:49 am
Subject: Kolb-List: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter
Edition 3.0
Thom,
you kindly sent pics of your exhaust set up.?
Here is mine showing the proximity of the exhaust to the oil pressre sender.
Also a pic of my dreaded flap lever. I am getting used to it but it really is
pretty dreadful.
?
Pat
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Subject: | Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter |
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I really like your engine and I know what You mean about that Flap lever I have
flown Vics MK3Xtra with the Flap in the same place You got to be a contortionist
to use it comfortably
I really like where the flap Levers are in Both my Mk3Xtra and Mk3C up over head
Ellery?in MAINE?
-----Original Message-----
From: pj.ladd <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sat, Oct 3, 2009 8:49 am
Subject: Kolb-List: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter
Edition 3.0
Thom,
you kindly sent pics of your exhaust set up.? Here is mine showing the proximity
of the exhaust to the oil pressre sender. Also a pic of my dreaded flap lever.
I am getting used to it but it really is pretty dreadful.
?
Pat
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(R) Album Starter Edition-Free!
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Subject: | Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter |
Thanks, Pat. Now I see the problem. On the plus side, I'd bet that after muffler
does a good job of quieting the exhaust sound, not to mention getting the soot
far enough away from the prop to eliminate any sooty residue on the prop blades.
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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Subject: | Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter |
That's pretty cool,Pat....is it quieter??? And I can't figure out how you do
your flap handle..???? What the heck do you grab onto ??? lol
chris ambrose
m3x/jab 70.HRS
n327cs
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
No, of course it doen`t but the tricyle gear is so obnviously better in all
respects that all other things being equal you wouldn`t choose a taildragger
would you.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.
I nose dragger is heavier, flies slower and bounces around like a wallaby
on a rough field. There are some things they do better. but not in all
respects.
Boyd
Do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Dana wrote:
> Just because YOU don't like something, Mike, doesn't make it
> substandard.
>
> -Dana (who PREFERS taildraggers with open cockpits, control sticks, and
> heel brakes)
>
>
I like toe brakes, that does not mean much, but the entire aviation world has accepted
this standard, and that means a lot. You try that just because YOU don't
like them, well its the entire aviation community...
You go on to try to change this discussion into something about Taildragers, Open
Cockpits, control sticks, etc. which are different types of aircraft and have
NOTHING to do about standardized controls. Don't put words into my mouth
and try to imply that I am against different types of aircraft, that is just
lame on your part.
People see this type of Junior High clique behavior, where the same certain few
are so intent on being popular, that you attack anything posted by someone like
me that is not part of the " In Group ". Why do you think this Kolb list
has very little activity ? This list has turned into the same few guys so intent
on harassing and discrediting anything that I post, that you will post bad
advice and bad information in favor of your personal politics. People see
this, and are afraid to post here. John H is right on one thing, not everyone
here is unfriendly, but there are a few here that have created an unfriendly
atmosphere on the list, at the expense of everyone.
Mike
--------
"NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could
have !!!
Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
At 09:36 AM 10/3/2009 Saturday, you wrote:
>
>
>Dana wrote:
>> Just because YOU don't like something, Mike, doesn't make it
>> substandard.
>>
>
>
>People see this type of Junior High clique behavior, where the same certain few
are so intent on being popular, that you attack anything posted by someone like
me that is not part of the " In Group ". Why do you think this Kolb list
has very little activity ? This list has turned into the same few guys so
intent on harassing and discrediting anything that I post, that you will post
bad advice and bad information in favor of your personal politics. People see
this, and are afraid to post here. John H is right on one thing, not everyone
here is unfriendly, but there are a few here that have created an unfriendly
atmosphere on the list, at the expense of everyone.
>
>Mike
Are you guys fricken kidding me? Why must this BS continue? Always with the mud
slinging. How many times to I have to step in and stop this? Why must I baby-sit
you all the time?
No more post like this, period.
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Pat
For a handful of good reasons, taildraggers are 'better' aircraft.
I'd pick one ever time.
like a Kolb (now it's Kolb-related!)
You say "tricycle gear is so obviously better in all respects"?? I
don't agree.
Russ
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On Oct 3, 2009, at 7:13 AM, pj.ladd wrote:
>
> a lot of plane manufactures have gone to nose dragging... that
> does not
> infer that all tail draggers are obsolete, or sub standard, just
> different.>>
>
> No, of course it doen`t but the tricyle gear is so obnviously
> better in all respects that all other things being equal you
> wouldn`t choose a taildragger would you.?
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Greetings,
IMHO my heel brakes work just fine, I have no need to change them to toe
brakes. As soon as I got used to them it was not a problem for me. The
Piper Colt I also fly has no heel brakes or toe brakes, it also took some
getting used to but it is no longer a problem for me.
Now what was the question?
Regards,
Will Uribe
FireStar II N4GU
El Paso, TX
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Here's a couple of pix of my "substandard" heel brake installation for anybody
who's interested. Not saying they're "better", never did, but they work just
fine for me.
-Dana
Growing old is inevitable, but we can stay immature indefinitely.
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
At TOK we had tried toe brakes on a M3 and none of us liked them - not even
a little. When you pushed on the toe brake, the whole pedal assembly would
tend to move away, so you had to press on the opposite pedal with a
balancing force. This required very deft feet. We didn't leave them on for
long - the heels worked much much better. Perhaps we could have fine-tuned
things to work better, but we felt the heels worked so much better, that we
were disinclined to spend any more time on the toe brakes.
Dennis
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Guys,
Now that Power fin has gone out of business what other prop is as
light weight, that is also adjustable and rigid? I was intending on getting
one for my Firefly, because I was told it did not flex so badly at idle like
the Ivo. Also because I need to keep it light.
Ed Diebel
Houston Tx FF# 62
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Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
That may be so Pat,but we do have a couple of replica aircraft of Richards
design in the hanger of old stuff ,one of them has a engine built to his
design and they show promise. Working rudder, elevators and real wing
controls ,not wing warping , it has a tricycle undercarriage { you know the
one with the trainer wheel out front } and that funny propeller does
produce some interesting thrust.
Downunder
MK111c
----- Original Message -----
From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Heel brakes or ???
>
> New Zealand { home of Richard Pearse} who left the ground in powered fight
> in March 1903.Had some control problems.>>
>
> Yeah!
>
> If you seen the bits of his plane in the Auckland Museum? As unlikely a
> pile of scrap to make it into the air as you can imagine. That propeller!
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
>
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