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Sun 10/04/09


Total Messages Posted: 31



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     1. 03:56 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (pj.ladd)
     2. 03:58 AM - Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition 3.0 (pj.ladd)
     3. 04:11 AM - Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter Edition 3.0 (pj.ladd)
     4. 04:12 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (pj.ladd)
     5. 05:13 AM - Re: Re: Props (Dana Hague)
     6. 05:24 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
     7. 05:44 AM - Re: Heel Brakes or ??? (william sullivan)
     8. 06:50 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (russ kinne)
     9. 07:13 AM - Re: Props (John Hauck)
    10. 07:17 AM - Re: Re: Heel Brakes or ??? (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
    11. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Jack B. Hart)
    12. 08:23 AM - Taildragger or nosedragger (Mike Welch)
    13. 10:51 AM - Squeeze Bulb (Jack B. Hart)
    14. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter (pj.ladd)
    15. 11:09 AM - Re: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter (pj.ladd)
    16. 11:10 AM - Re: Re: Props (Dennis Souder)
    17. 12:01 PM - Firestars & gusts????? (frank.goodnight)
    18. 12:29 PM - Re: Taildragger or nosedragger (The Kuffels)
    19. 12:41 PM - Re: Re: Props (John Hauck)
    20. 01:11 PM - Re: Firestars & gusts????? (John Hauck)
    21. 01:23 PM - Re: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter (John Hauck)
    22. 01:52 PM - Re: Squeeze Bulb (Richard Girard)
    23. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: Props (robert bean)
    24. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Props (Jim Baker)
    25. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Props (robert bean)
    26. 02:52 PM - Re: Re: Props (John Hauck)
    27. 03:13 PM - Re: Squeeze Bulb (russ kinne)
    28. 07:14 PM - Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Richard Pike)
    29. 08:02 PM - Re: Squeeze Bulb (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
    30. 09:57 PM - Re: Re: Mz 34 (DAquaNut@aol.com)
    31. 11:32 PM - Re: Firestars & gusts????? (dalewhelan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:56:04 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Heel brakes or ???
    HI Robert,, Now , would I? /.. I did qualify it by saying `all other things being equal` Pat


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    Time: 03:58:14 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter
    Edition 3.0 a 45 degree fitting into the block "" Might work. I will have a shufti .Thanks Pat


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    Time: 04:11:58 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter
    Edition 3.0 Hi Ellery, <<You got to be a contortionist to use it comfortably >> You can`t reach it at all with the right hand so I have to reach across my body with my left. Seriously bad design. If I hadn`t been so smitten with the looks of the Kolb I would never have bought the plane. Bad case of heart ruling head. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 04:12:57 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Heel brakes or ???
    For my kind of flying, my mkIII tail dragger does a much better job than a tri gear.>> Hi John, I just know I am going to regret starting this. Why?. In what respect is a tail dragger better? Enquiringly ( and really envying you the crab) Pat


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    Time: 05:13:27 AM PST US
    From: Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Props
    At 01:12 AM 10/4/2009, DAquaNut@aol.com wrote: > Now that Power fin has gone out of business what other prop is as > light weight, that is also adjustable and rigid? I was intending on > getting one for my Firefly, because I was told it did not flex so badly > at idle like the Ivo. Also because I need to keep it light. Powerfins are very light, but fragile... bad news for a pusher where the landing gear may kick rocks into it. I watched a MKIII crash after the Powerfin prop exploded on takeoff at about 50' (shouldn't have been a crash but the pilot concentrated on shutting down the engine instead of flying the plane). The owner had repaired nicks in the prop from gravel strikes without realizing the cracks extended all the way through the rigid part into the foam core. If I was in the market for a plastic prop, it'd be a Warp Drive. Not as light as the Powerfin but very rigid and bulletproof.. Of course if you want light weight there's also the GSC adjustable wood props <http://www.ultralightprops.com/tech_series_props/gsc_tech_groundadjust.htm>. I have one on one of my PPG's; they're beautifully made and less expensive than any plastic prop. -Dana -- (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)retend it didn't happen?


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    Time: 05:24:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heel brakes or ???
    From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
    It really doesn't make a difference to me Heal or Toe Brakes when I had small tires on the brakes worked ok now I have bigger tires on the brakes dont seem to work as well, I made a change and got a reaction, now I have to make another change to get the reaction I am looking for Heres a Few pic's Flying around Maine ??in a Kolb MK3C See attachements? Ellery Flying around Maine


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    Time: 05:44:13 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Heel Brakes or ???
    - Nice photos, Ellery.- Looks a lot like my area in Vermont.- Not a l ot of places to land.- Is that an electronic compass? - do not archive ------------------------- ------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------- Windsor Locks, Ct . ------------------------- --------------------FS 447


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    Time: 06:50:13 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Heel brakes or ???
    Pat Briefly, and not to start a long thread -- Kolbs are pusher taildraggers; so this is Kolb-related. Of course pushers are different from tractors, but most GA taildraggers are tractors, and IMHO: are much better for any kind of bush flying; keeps the prop up out of the brush. do better landing on soft ground; nosewheels are usually smaller than mains and can dig in more easily have less tendency to nose-over for photography, gear leg is FORWARD of wing-strut, and out of the way no nose gear & strut right behind prop, in the hi-speed airflow, to produce lots of drag easier to hand-prop as the prop is higher off the ground easier to get in & out of, esp for creaky or disabled pax if tailwheel is flat, broken or missing, you can still fly, carefully. Not so with nosewheels. Taildraggers just LOOK so much better! So. As I said, just IMHO Fly & enjoy; winter's coming Russ On Oct 4, 2009, at 7:04 AM, pj.ladd wrote: > > For my kind of flying, my mkIII tail dragger does a much better job > than a > tri gear.>> > > Hi John, > I just know I am going to regret starting this. Why?. In what > respect is a tail dragger better? > > Enquiringly ( and really envying you the crab) > > Pat > >


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    Time: 07:13:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Props
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Remind me when I get home. I disected a Warp Drive prop blade grip and also a GSC. You may change your mind about GSC after you see these two photos. The reason I started flying Warp Drive Props in 1993, was GSC. I had a GSC 3 blade wood prop mounted on a 582 on my mkIII. During climb out at WOT a blade failed, hit the tail boom, and collected the other two blades. I couldn't afford for this to happen again. GSC promptly sent me a new prop and hub. I promptly sold it. Moab, Utah -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266387#266387


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    Time: 07:17:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heel Brakes or ???
    From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com>
    no thats a digital Temp guage Ellery -----Original Message----- From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net> Sent: Sun, Oct 4, 2009 8:42 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Heel Brakes or ??? ? Nice photos, Ellery.? Looks a lot like my area in Vermont.? Not a lot of places to land.? Is that an electronic compass? ? do not archive ???????????????????????????????????????????? Bill Sullivan ???????????????????????????????????????????? Windsor Locks, Ct. ?????????????????????????????????????????????FS 447


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    Time: 07:50:47 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: Heel brakes or ???
    Advantage (disadvantage?) of a nose wheel is that one tends to drive the aircraft on the ground rather than fly it on the ground. This can cause problems when taxiing in gusty winds. Also another advantage (disadvantage?) is that due to the cg being ahead of the main landing gear, one can land the aircraft in a crab with less tendency to ground loop. When this is done there is a greater chance to fold the gear due to the increased side loading and stress on the landing gear. When flying a tail dragger configuration, one readily learns to pay attention to flying the aircraft on the ground, and not to land in a crab. Glider pilots are the best versed on flying on the ground, as they have only one main wheel. Also, with the cg behind the main gear, the load distribution upon takeoff rotation favors the tail dragger, in that, it allows one to get off soft field easier than a nose wheel aircraft. As one tries to early rotate a nose wheel aircraft with the cg ahead of the main gear, much more weight is shifted to the main gear than with a tail dragger. In side profile drag, I don't know if there is advantage in either configuration. The tail dragger has a longer wheel base. And so the tail wheel may give better ground stability than a nose wheel. But it may be a toss up as to which is better. Over all I like the tail dragger, as I believe it makes a better pilot out you as it demands that you continue to fly the aircraft while on the ground. FWIW - a couple of hours work away from first start up on the MZ 34 Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 08:23:20 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Taildragger or nosedragger
    Pat=2C and Kolb people=2C What is better=2C a taildragger or nosedragger? It depends on the type o f flying a person does. Why would the type of flying=2C or more specifical ly=2C the type of LANDING they do=2C be more appropriate for non-airport ty pe landings? Here's why: Example=3B A nosewheel airplane usually has a smaller wheel than the mai ns. In the process of slowing down (during the landing roll)=2C much more pressure is applied to the nosewheel as the plane pitches forward. This do wnward force is pushing on ONE (!) small tire. On any kind of soft grass/d irt/mud/etc runway=2C a nosewheel airplane runs the risk of "digging in"=2C and flipping over. Contrast that idea with a taildragger. When applying brakes=2C to slow d own from landing=2C you are concentrating the airplane's weight on TWO whee ls. Each of these two wheels are larger than what only one small nosewhee l would be=2C thereby distributing the airplane's weight better (and safer) . Also=2C as the plane drops it's tailwheel=2C the center of gravity shift 's rearward=2C which is also better if landing on a soft surface. This fact alone is why there is no such thing as a nosewheel bush plane. It would be foolish to build upon a flawed concept of using a nosewheel de sign in a soft field environment. Airplane=2C like automobiles=2C come in many different styles. What work s for one=2C will not likely work well for another. If someone believes a taildragger airplane works better for them=2C then they most likely see a l ot of non-airport landings. Additionally=2C since most taildragger designs are tractor types=2C they often has much better prop clearance from thrown-up debri=2C when the plane has slowed down (and resting on the tailwheel). Nosewheel style planes have their place in airport operations=2C or at le ast on hard surface runways. Worked on my MkIII yesterday for the first time in 6 months. Yay! I'm n earing completion on my house that I'm building. I'm looking forward to wo rking fulltime on the Kolb all winter. I should be able to finish it in ab out 3 months. Mike Welch MkIII =0A _________________________________________________________________=0A Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.=0A


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    Time: 10:51:21 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Squeeze Bulb
    Thought I could finish up the MZ34 installation today but Murphy showed up. I put the fuel tank back in and was ready to reconnect the fuel line to the engine. Before reinstalling the squeeze bulb, I found I could not squeeze it. It is hard as a rock. Evidently the fuel in side the bulb kept it flexible and when disconnected it dried out and became hard. Only ten years old, so I guess it was time. Will make a trip to Walmart to see if they have one. If they don't I will soak the original in gas over night as see if it softens up. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 11:09:28 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album
    Starter On the plus side, I'd bet that after muffler does a good job of quieting the exhaust sound>> Hi Thom, well it got the sound low enough to pass the `decibel gun` test. This is tested only once when the plane goes for type approval. Not on each plane built. Any change in the exhaust system would mean retesting. Not impossible but I would have to arrange for a test to be carried out at my expense. A total redesign might effect the C of G too. I wouldn`t ordinarily consider it but a slight rearrangement near that oil pressure sender might be possible. In spite of passing the noise test my plane is by far the noisiest on the field. But it can out climb anyone else so it has its compensations.. Regarding which I had a `heads up` last week. The strip is in the middle of a Low Level Corridor used by C130`s from a local field. Sitting on the end of the strip just about to open the throttle to take off and a C130 cruised across right in my climb out. I spoke to the safety officer at the RAF field they operate from and complained. He was a bit dismissive when I said `microlight` and in the subsequent exchange of letters he said that in effect even with registered microlight fields the C130 crews assume that they only fly at weekends and holidays and that the C130`s were entitled to fly down to 250 ft in the Corridor and `see and be seen` was the order of the day. I told him that we have a Cub and an Auster operate from the field as well but with their rate of climb they had no problem. I pointed out that sitting in a field with high hedges on either side rather limits the horizontal view of approaching a/c and that I could be at 250ft in about 15 seconds. Did that give his crews time to take evasive action?. I think that shook him a bit as he has promised to bring it to the attention of the C130 crews. Heh! Heh! Cheers Pat


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    Time: 11:09:34 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album
    Starter That's pretty cool,Pat....is it quieter??? And I can't figure out how you do your flap handle..???? What the heck do you grab onto ???>> Hi Ces, Well....quiet enough to be legal. The flaps? Left hand across body. What am I supposed to hang on to???? Ask the Kolb factory. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 11:10:23 AM PST US
    From: "Dennis Souder" <flykolb@pa.net>
    Subject: Re: Props
    John, If I knew where your GSC prop blade failed ... I have since forgotten. Where did the blade fail? I do recall when building a SS for the twin engine 2si engine package, that I cut out a piece of 6" tubing and made a doubler plate for the fuselage tube under the prop area. Maybe this was an inspiration from your GSC prop experience. Dennis -----Original Message----- From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hauck Sent: Sunday, October 04, 2009 10:14 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Props Remind me when I get home. I disected a Warp Drive prop blade grip and also a GSC. You may change your mind about GSC after you see these two photos. The reason I started flying Warp Drive Props in 1993, was GSC. I had a GSC 3 blade wood prop mounted on a 582 on my mkIII. During climb out at WOT a blade failed, hit the tail boom, and collected the other two blades. I couldn't afford for this to happen again. GSC promptly sent me a new prop and hub. I promptly sold it. Moab, Utah -------- John Hauck MKIII/912ULS hauck's holler, alabama Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266387#266387


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    Time: 12:01:30 PM PST US
    From: "frank.goodnight" <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Firestars & gusts?????
    Decided to pratice takeoffs and landings today , in gusty conditions. Firestar 2 @ 725lbs Runway heading 13 wind 170 @ 14k gusting 20k, gust were rather closely spaced. DA 2400 ft. My goal was to touch down within 50 yards of my selected touch down point and feel safe and in compleat control. I couldn't do it. I was really pushing it to stay within 100 yards. I only did 6 landings because I felt like I was at or maybe exceading my skill limits. As I am planing 2 rather long X countrys this spring, one to Utah & one to Sun&Fun, I'm sure I'll run into rough weather and I need to pratice for it. MY questions to anyone who flys a firestar are , what do you think is a reasonable limit for the firestar regarding gusty conditions and crosswind components? I realize that each pilot has a different skill level, I,m trying to raise mine up to what the airplane can do, but I don't want to push hard enough to get in trouble. any thoughts will be appreciated and helpful. Frank Goodnight Firestar2 HKS 55161 Brownsville , TX


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    Time: 12:29:48 PM PST US
    From: "The Kuffels" <kuffel@cyberport.net>
    Subject: Re: Taildragger or nosedragger
    Both have their pluses and minuses. But for grass or unimproved runways I much prefer a taildragger. When I lived in Anchorage my next door neighbor got an absolutely fantastic deal on a Cessna 182 in South Carolina. On his first flight after getting back to Alaska he landed at the best maintained grass airfield in the state. While taxing slowly, the nose wheel caught a rut and folded back. Between the bent firewall and the prop strike the plane was totaled and never flew again. So when flying my Mooney I'm extra cautious when not on paved ground. At least it has trailing link knee action in front which is less vulnerable than the Cessnas. Tom Kuffel Whitefish, MT Building original FireStar


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    Time: 12:41:49 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Props
    > If I knew where your GSC prop blade failed ... I have since forgotten. > Where did the blade fail? > > Dennis Dennis S/Gang: I have an idea the double K&N air filter I was using decided to depart its normal location and went through the prop. Either that or one blade failed, hitting the tail boom, and collected the other two blades. Had a large dent in the tail boom, which was knocked about 5 to 10 degrees out of column. Had no idea they tail boom was no longer straight until after I landed. I was in a steep climbing attitude, WOT, when I experienced a very loub explosion and immediate terrific vibration. I didn't have time to shut down the engine. When the prop failed, it instantaneously shook both carbs out of their sockets. Only thing holding them on to the aircraft was the cables. I had the standard Rotax starter mounted on the mag eng of the 582. It was hanging by the positive battery cable after the bell housing broke. I put the mkIII in a shoe box forced landing area. Thank God I had 40 degrees of flaps to get me down and stopped before I hit a large bamboo thicket. I had to ground loop the mkIII to keep from hitting the thicket. To add to my delema, the Johnson grass in the field was shoulder high. Did not put a scratch on the mkIII during the forced landing. Says a lot for the capability of the Kolb MKIII. Not a classic, because there were no classics until the MKIIIx came along. Don't change the designation of my MKIII because of that. I have a MKIII, and TNK designed a MKIII Extra. ;-) john h mkIII Moab, Utah


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    Time: 01:11:32 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Firestars & gusts?????
    > I realize that each pilot has a different skill level, I,m trying to > raise mine up to what the airplane can do, but I don't want to push hard > enough to get in trouble. any thoughts will be appreciated > and helpful. > > Frank Goodnight Hi Frank G/Gang: Capability of any Kolb and its pilot, to me, is what that pilot feels comfortable with. That is how I approach the capabilities of my mkIII and the other Kolb models I get to fly occasionally. Many times, when I get caught in bad weather conditions, my mkIII demonstrates it is a better airplane than I am a pilot. I learned to fly Kolbs by flying frequently, almost every day, pushing the envelope more each time I flew. Flew in all kinds of wind and weather conditions. I learned a lot. Some good and some very bad. The bad part was my fault, not the airplanes'. BTW: I also practiced a lot of dead stick landings. Wish I could execute them now as good as I could 20 years ago. The reason, I don't practice nearly enough. Looking forward to seeing Frank G at Monument Valley, May 2010. Hope I get there early so I can watch Frank land and see the big ass grin on his face when he taxiis up to the tie down cable. Experiencing my second dust storm in Moab. First since John W, Boyd Y, and I rode one out at the airport a few years ago. john h mkIII Moab, Utah


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    Time: 01:23:50 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album
    Starter > A total > redesign might effect the C of G too. I wouldn`t ordinarily consider it > but a slight rearrangement near that oil pressure sender might be > possible. > Pat Patrick L/Gang: Kolbs are noted for their rather wide cg range. Takes quite a bit of weight to make a noticeable change in cg. Doubt changing/rerouting exhaust systems and pipes would amount to a hill of beans. john h mkIII


    Message 22


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    Time: 01:52:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Squeeze Bulb
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Jack, When one of the flapper valves in a primer bulb broke off and cut off fuel to the engine I was on the ground almost instantly. Fortunately it happened right after take off and not when I was cruising down the Arkansas River at 150' the day before. You've put a lot of time and effort into your MZ34 installation. It sure would be a shame if a $10 primer bulb took it down. My 2 cents. Rick Girard do not archive On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jack B. Hart <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>wrote: > > Thought I could finish up the MZ34 installation today but Murphy showed up. > I put the fuel tank back in and was ready to reconnect the fuel line to the > engine. Before reinstalling the squeeze bulb, I found I could not squeeze > it. It is hard as a rock. Evidently the fuel in side the bulb kept it > flexible and when disconnected it dried out and became hard. Only ten > years > old, so I guess it was time. > > Will make a trip to Walmart to see if they have one. If they don't I will > soak the original in gas over night as see if it softens up. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > >


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    Time: 02:14:56 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Props
    Amazing how focussed you attention gets in these circumstances. -and how glad you feel when you survive intact. BB do not archive On 4, Oct 2009, at 3:36 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > > > If I knew where your GSC prop blade failed ... I have since > forgotten. >> Where did the blade fail? >> >> Dennis > > > Dennis S/Gang: > > I have an idea the double K&N air filter I was using decided to > depart its normal location and went through the prop. Either that > or one blade failed, hitting the tail boom, and collected the other > two blades. Had a large dent in the tail boom, which was knocked > about 5 to 10 degrees out of column. Had no idea they tail boom was > no longer straight until after I landed. > > I was in a steep climbing attitude, WOT, when I experienced a very > loub explosion and immediate terrific vibration. I didn't have > time to shut down the engine. When the prop failed, it > instantaneously shook both carbs out of their sockets. Only thing > holding them on to the aircraft was the cables. I had the standard > Rotax starter mounted on the mag eng of the 582. It was hanging by > the positive battery cable after the bell housing broke. > > I put the mkIII in a shoe box forced landing area. Thank God I had > 40 degrees of flaps to get me down and stopped before I hit a large > bamboo thicket. I had to ground loop the mkIII to keep from > hitting the thicket. To add to my delema, the Johnson grass in the > field was shoulder high. Did not put a scratch on the mkIII during > the forced landing. > > Says a lot for the capability of the Kolb MKIII. Not a classic, > because there were no classics until the MKIIIx came along. Don't > change the designation of my MKIII because of that. I have a > MKIII, and TNK designed a MKIII Extra. ;-) > > john h > mkIII > Moab, Utah > >


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    Time: 02:22:56 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Baker" <jlbaker@msbit.net>
    Subject: Re: Props
    X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.51) X-SpamReason %%SpamReason%%: > Now that Power fin has gone out of business what other prop is as > light weight, that is also adjustable and rigid? I was intending on > getting one for my Firefly, because I was told it did not flex so > badly at idle like the Ivo. Also because I need to keep it light. > > > > Ed Diebel This is NOT about how bad Ivo props are,,,many love them.... but rather one of the reasons I'm not wild about them ( I have a Warp on mine). Test flew another gentleman's FS 2 with an Ivo and was really surprised at the stall characteristics. Just as I approached a stall the Ivo would "unload"/cavitate and instead of a nice smooth break the plane would quit flying immediately, not buffet a bit as mine will. The airspeed would dramatically drop as the prop stopped producing any thrust whatsoever. Really bad behaviour..... Jim Baker 580.788.2779 405. 426.5377 cell Elmore City, OK


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    Time: 02:28:53 PM PST US
    From: robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Props
    John, how did you extract the Kolb from the shoebox? BB do not archive On 4, Oct 2009, at 3:36 PM, John Hauck wrote: > > > > If I knew where your GSC prop blade failed ... I have since > forgotten. >> Where did the blade fail? >> >> Dennis > > > Dennis S/Gang: > > I have an idea the double K&N air filter I was using decided to > depart its normal location and went through the prop. Either that > or one blade failed, hitting the tail boom, and collected the other > two blades. Had a large dent in the tail boom, which was knocked > about 5 to 10 degrees out of column. Had no idea they tail boom was > no longer straight until after I landed. > > I was in a steep climbing attitude, WOT, when I experienced a very > loub explosion and immediate terrific vibration. I didn't have > time to shut down the engine. When the prop failed, it > instantaneously shook both carbs out of their sockets. Only thing > holding them on to the aircraft was the cables. I had the standard > Rotax starter mounted on the mag eng of the 582. It was hanging by > the positive battery cable after the bell housing broke. > > I put the mkIII in a shoe box forced landing area. Thank God I had > 40 degrees of flaps to get me down and stopped before I hit a large > bamboo thicket. I had to ground loop the mkIII to keep from > hitting the thicket. To add to my delema, the Johnson grass in the > field was shoulder high. Did not put a scratch on the mkIII during > the forced landing. > > Says a lot for the capability of the Kolb MKIII. Not a classic, > because there were no classics until the MKIIIx came along. Don't > change the designation of my MKIII because of that. I have a > MKIII, and TNK designed a MKIII Extra. ;-) > > john h > mkIII > Moab, Utah > >


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    Time: 02:52:28 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Props
    > John, how did you extract the Kolb from the shoebox? > BB Hi Bob B/Gang: Pulled the wings and trailered it out. Dinged the leading edge of the upper vertical stabilizer loading into the trailer. ;-( Little Mike sent me a "2d" tail boom, and I was back in business in a couple weeks, only to have the 582 seize. Got it into a small hay field. Wiped out the landing gear trying to fly it out. That was the last flight of the mkIII until Bro Jim built new landing gear, and I repaired the damage, and installed my new 912. That was winter of 93/94. Flew again a couple days prior to Sun and Fun 1994. Two months later it flew 17,400 miles in 41 days and 232.0 flight hours. Think I got the bugs worked out of it by then. ;-) john h mkIII - I break'em. Me and Bro Jim fix'em.


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    Time: 03:13:28 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Squeeze Bulb
    Jack FWIW, when something important screws up, REPLACE it Russ K do not archive On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:38 PM, Richard Girard wrote: > Jack, When one of the flapper valves in a primer bulb broke off and > cut off fuel to the engine I was on the ground almost instantly. > Fortunately it happened right after take off and not when I was > cruising down the Arkansas River at 150' the day before. You've put > a lot of time and effort into your MZ34 installation. It sure would > be a shame if a $10 primer bulb took it down. My 2 cents. > > Rick Girard > do not archive > > On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jack B. Hart > <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> wrote: > <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > > Thought I could finish up the MZ34 installation today but Murphy > showed up. > I put the fuel tank back in and was ready to reconnect the fuel > line to the > engine. Before reinstalling the squeeze bulb, I found I could not > squeeze > it. It is hard as a rock. Evidently the fuel in side the bulb > kept it > flexible and when disconnected it dried out and became hard. Only > ten years > old, so I guess it was time. > > Will make a trip to Walmart to see if they have one. If they don't > I will > soak the original in gas over night as see if it softens up. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > > ========== > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > >


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    Time: 07:14:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heel brakes or ???
    From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org>
    Dana wrote: > Here's a couple of pix of my "substandard" heel brake installation for anybody who's interested. Not saying they're "better", never did, but they work just fine for me. > > -Dana > > Growing old is inevitable, but we can stay immature indefinitely. Dana, that is sweet, much better than the stock cable operated setup. I saved those pix, I can actually see myself liking that, thanks. (Now if John will ever get over his crabs and go home so he can post some pix...) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldpoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266511#266511


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    Time: 08:02:15 PM PST US
    From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Squeeze Bulb
    In a message dated 10/4/2009 1:51:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes: Will make a trip to Walmart to see if they have one. Jack, I had the same problem with the squeeze bulb getting hard after being dry for a few weeks, while I was cleaning out the fuel tank and installing new fuel lines. Walmart only had the 3/8" size, but I found a 1/4" size at NAPA auto parts. They have a few parts in their marine department. Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive


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    Time: 09:57:10 PM PST US
    From: DAquaNut@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Mz 34
    Great news Jack! I for one am waiting for your next report and Im sure others are interested. Ed Diebel In a message dated 10/4/2009 9:51:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, jbhart@onlyinternet.net writes: FWIW - a couple of hours work away from first start up on the MZ 34 Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 11:32:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Firestars & gusts?????
    From: "dalewhelan" <dalewhelan@earthlink.net>
    Frank, I have done 17kts at about 45 degrees without problems but not without attention. I also glt hit by 20 MPH at 90 degrees and stomped on the brakes to stop a ground loop damaged the nose. I usually do wheel landings in crosswind although I have heard people argue for 3 pointers in crosswind. Flew today with 20+ winds, only one crosswind takeoff, a bit sloppy, all else into the wind -------- Dale Whelan 503 powered Firestar II Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266534#266534




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