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1. 02:46 AM - Re: Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album Starter (pj.ladd)
2. 02:54 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (pj.ladd)
3. 05:07 AM - Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Thom Riddle)
4. 05:09 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Dennis Souder)
5. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: Heel brakes or ??? (robert bean)
6. 06:47 AM - Jump Seat (Eric Marenyi)
7. 08:05 AM - Full Enclosure (Eric Marenyi)
8. 09:00 AM - Re: Heel brakes or ??? (Richard Pike)
9. 09:43 AM - Re: Firestars & gusts????? (John Bickham)
10. 09:45 AM - Re: Full Enclosure (dalewhelan)
11. 09:49 AM - Re: Jump Seat (dalewhelan)
12. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Firestars & gusts????? (frank.goodnight)
13. 01:13 PM - Wire wrap cable terminations (Richard Girard)
14. 02:02 PM - Re: Wire wrap cable terminations (Richard Pike)
15. 02:13 PM - Re: Wire wrap cable terminations (Richard Pike)
16. 02:16 PM - Re: Re: Wire wrap cable terminations (Richard Girard)
17. 04:20 PM - Re: Re: Props (HShack@aol.com)
18. 04:20 PM - Re: Firestars & gusts????? (John Bickham)
19. 04:38 PM - Re: Full Enclosure (zeprep251@aol.com)
20. 05:40 PM - Re: Full Enclosure (WillUribe@aol.com)
21. 05:47 PM - Floats on Firestar II (Eric Marenyi)
22. 05:50 PM - Re: Full Enclosure (Eric Marenyi)
23. 06:05 PM - Re: Full Enclosure (Larry Cottrell)
24. 06:21 PM - Re: Full Enclosure (WillUribe@aol.com)
25. 06:24 PM - Re: Full Enclosure (Eric Marenyi)
26. 06:25 PM - Re: Full Enclosure (Eric Marenyi)
27. 06:40 PM - John H - Info about Chilly Vest (Eric Marenyi)
28. 06:58 PM - Re: Firestars & gusts????? (WillUribe@aol.com)
29. 07:50 PM - Re: John H - Info about Chilly Vest (John Hauck)
30. 08:19 PM - Chilly vest VS Gerbing`s (Lanny Fetterman)
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| Subject: | Re: You have received photos from Adobe Photoshop Album |
Starter
Doubt changing/rerouting exhaust systems and pipes would amount to a hill of
beans.>>
Thanks John.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
When you pushed on the toe brake, the whole pedal assembly would
tend to move away, so you had to press on the opposite pedal with a
balancing force. This required very deft feet. We didn't leave them on for
long - the heels worked much much better>>
Hi Denis,
looks as though you unloaded your suspect stuff on the English Distributor.
I have toe brakes on my 3xtra and the problem is exactly as you describe.
The rudder pedals move away from you unless you specifically balance the
force with the other foot. The strain on the rudder cables must be terrific.
That and the Flap lever......Grief.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
not kolb related
Old Poops,
Recently, I've been seeing a photo of what looks like a Red Acura NSX by your name
on your posts. 3 questions: Is that what it is? Do you own/drive it? Why that
and not your very nice MkIII or your smiling bearded countenance?
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x34
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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| Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Pat,
Don't know why they might have adopted the toe brakes. Probably because
real airplanes have toe brakes and they wanted it to be more like a real
airplane - dunno. Certainly not from our recommendation and we never sold
toes brakes either.
Flap handle ... sorry about that.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pj.ladd
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:42 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Heel brakes or ???
When you pushed on the toe brake, the whole pedal assembly would
tend to move away, so you had to press on the opposite pedal with a
balancing force. This required very deft feet. We didn't leave them on for
long - the heels worked much much better>>
Hi Denis,
looks as though you unloaded your suspect stuff on the English Distributor.
I have toe brakes on my 3xtra and the problem is exactly as you describe.
The rudder pedals move away from you unless you specifically balance the
force with the other foot. The strain on the rudder cables must be terrific.
That and the Flap lever......Grief.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Pat, would it be possible to put an extension on the flap handle to
give it a more advantageous reach?
-and BTW, how many xtras had it there?
BB
On 5, Oct 2009, at 8:09 AM, Dennis Souder wrote:
>
> Pat,
>
> Don't know why they might have adopted the toe brakes. Probably
> because
> real airplanes have toe brakes and they wanted it to be more like a
> real
> airplane - dunno. Certainly not from our recommendation and we
> never sold
> toes brakes either.
>
> Flap handle ... sorry about that.
>
> Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pj.ladd
> Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:42 AM
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Heel brakes or ???
>
>
> When you pushed on the toe brake, the whole pedal assembly would
> tend to move away, so you had to press on the opposite pedal with a
> balancing force. This required very deft feet. We didn't leave
> them on for
> long - the heels worked much much better>>
>
> Hi Denis,
> looks as though you unloaded your suspect stuff on the English
> Distributor.
> I have toe brakes on my 3xtra and the problem is exactly as you
> describe.
> The rudder pedals move away from you unless you specifically
> balance the
> force with the other foot. The strain on the rudder cables must be
> terrific.
> That and the Flap lever......Grief.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
>
>
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I was wondering what the purpose of a Jump Seat is on a Firestar II or
any "single" place Kolb for that matter. is it just for a child? Can
an adult fit in it? maybe a person about 165 lbs or less?
Thanks everyone!
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I am wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar II
and what benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there. If you
have a jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure. Is there a
place to buy the enclosures?
Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud Kolb owner very soon (pending answers
to these questions)
Eric M.
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| Subject: | Re: Heel brakes or ??? |
Thom Riddle wrote:
> not kolb related
>
> Old Poops,
>
> Recently, I've been seeing a photo of what looks like a Red Acura NSX by your
name on your posts. 3 questions: Is that what it is? Do you own/drive it? Why
that and not your very nice MkIII or your smiling bearded countenance?
>
> do not archive
Answer 1. Yes it is.
Answer 2. Yes I do.
Answer 3. Because the car is a whole lot better looking than I am, and frankly,
(IMO) a lot better looking than my MKIII. The first (and only other) NSX I had
ever seen before I bought mine was Kermit Weeks car, parked by his first hangar/museum
in Homestead, Florida back in 91, and when I saw it, I said at the
time it was the most beautiful machine I had ever seen. I still think that. I
never expected to own one.
I am also a list member on NSX Prime, but I can't really afford to play in that
league. VG's, modifying the brake pedals and tweaking the MKIII is more my style.
Although come to think of it, I have been doing some low-cost mods to the NSX - http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/NSX%20mods.html
Do Not Archive
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Firestars & gusts????? |
Hey Mr. Frank,
Not an expert, just passing on my experiences.
I too had done some crosswind and higher wind condition practice prior to my trip
to MV.
I have to build up to that point and stay proficient to be be ahead of the plane.
Practice, practice, practice is the only way I can maintain that skill level.
If I take the easy path of light wind flying, I have to make myself go out
and start again.
I was a faithful three point lander until my trip out west in some pretty stiff
conditions. I got converted to three point landings quickly. Found it easier
it wing low and wheel land in the conditions you describe. I found that you
can stick it on the runway with a little more speed and rudder authority.
One additonal thing to consider that I neglected in my practice for the long XC's.
That would be tailwind landings. As you know, MV (UT25) is one way in and
one way out. It really got my attention after a long day of flying from Vernon,
TX to MV and arrive with the wind blowing in the wrong direction. When
I flared, I thought I was going 90 mph. Weird feeling and unusual visual cues.
Consider putting that on your list when you get more comfortable.
I also learned how to "B-52 takeoff and land" at the higher density altitudes.
Of course, some of that I learned the hard way!
Need to fly, but raining all my off-days lately.
Practice your shortfield stuff too. Maybe you could join us for the Nauga Field
Fly-Around the first weekend in December. Love for you to join us.
http://www.airnav.com/airport/LS35
Above all, please be careful.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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| Subject: | Re: Full Enclosure |
Yes on the getting in
Your passenger will be warmer
you would build the windows
--------
Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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I have taken 185 pound passenger in my Firestar II
Rear seat is full much of the time.
Often on little cross counrties.
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Dale Whelan
503 powered Firestar II
Projection, A simple and interesting Psychological concept
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| Subject: | Re: Firestars & gusts????? |
Hi John,
Nauga Field in early Dec. sounds like it MIGHT be doable. If I can get
in enough X country
practice, and my skill level improves enough so I can be confortable
on that long a X countrty.
Also I've got to talk with John H about how to camp. Haven't done that
in about 30 years.
Thanks for your advice, I think you hit the nail pretty much on the
head.
Frank Goodnight
Firestar2
Brownsville, TX.
On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:41 AM, John Bickham wrote:
> >
>
> Hey Mr. Frank,
>
> Not an expert, just passing on my experiences.
>
> I too had done some crosswind and higher wind condition practice
> prior to my trip to MV.
>
> I have to build up to that point and stay proficient to be be ahead
> of the plane. Practice, practice, practice is the only way I can
> maintain that skill level. If I take the easy path of light wind
> flying, I have to make myself go out and start again.
>
> I was a faithful three point lander until my trip out west in some
> pretty stiff conditions. I got converted to three point landings
> quickly. Found it easier it wing low and wheel land in the
> conditions you describe. I found that you can stick it on the
> runway with a little more speed and rudder authority.
>
> One additonal thing to consider that I neglected in my practice for
> the long XC's. That would be tailwind landings. As you know, MV
> (UT25) is one way in and one way out. It really got my attention
> after a long day of flying from Vernon, TX to MV and arrive with
> the wind blowing in the wrong direction. When I flared, I thought I
> was going 90 mph. Weird feeling and unusual visual cues. Consider
> putting that on your list when you get more comfortable.
>
> I also learned how to "B-52 takeoff and land" at the higher density
> altitudes. Of course, some of that I learned the hard way!
>
> Need to fly, but raining all my off-days lately.
>
> Practice your shortfield stuff too. Maybe you could join us for the
> Nauga Field Fly-Around the first weekend in December. Love for you
> to join us.
> http://www.airnav.com/airport/LS35
>
> Above all, please be careful.
>
> --------
> Thanks too much,
>
> John Bickham
> Mark III-C w/ 912UL
> St. Francisville, LA
>
> I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct
> difference that I have the greatest respect for.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266623#266623
>
>
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| Subject: | Wire wrap cable terminations |
Some of you expressed interest in using the wire wrap and solder method of
making cable terminations following the publication of the article in the
September issue of "Sport Aviation". In this month's Member's Forum two
letters appear that take issue with both the method and materials used by
the article's author. If any of you were serious about using this method,
please take time to read these two letters.
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: Wire wrap cable terminations |
[quote="rickofudall"]Some of you expressed interest in using the wire wrap and
solder method of making cable terminations following the publication of the article
in the September issue of "Sport Aviation". In this month's Member's Forum
two letters appear that take issue with both the method and materials used
by the article's author. If any of you were serious about using this method, please
take time to read these two letters.
Rick Girard
> [b]
Do you have a link? I'm not sure where to look.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wire wrap cable terminations |
[quote="Richard Pike"]
rickofudall wrote:
> Some of you expressed interest in using the wire wrap and solder method of making
cable terminations following the publication of the article in the September
issue of "Sport Aviation". In this month's Member's Forum two letters appear
that take issue with both the method and materials used by the article's author.
If any of you were serious about using this method, please take time to
read these two letters.
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
>
> > [b]
>
>
> Do you have a link? I'm not sure where to look.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Do Not Archive
Disregard - I found it.
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| Subject: | Re: Wire wrap cable terminations |
I got it out of the paper version, page 68.
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
>
> [quote="rickofudall"]Some of you expressed interest in using the wire wrap
> and solder method of making cable terminations following the publication of
> the article in the September issue of "Sport Aviation". In this month's
> Member's Forum two letters appear that take issue with both the method and
> materials used by the article's author. If any of you were serious about
> using this method, please take time to read these two letters.
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> > [b]
>
>
> Do you have a link? I'm not sure where to look.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=266672#266672
>
>
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In a message dated 10/4/2009 1:15:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
DAquaNut@aol.com writes:
Now that Power fin has gone out of business what other prop is as light
weight, that is also adjustable and rigid?
Check out Hot Prop [formerly Kiev prop]. I prefer it over the Warp.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Firestars & gusts????? |
Mr. Frank,
First....
> I was a faithful three point lander until my trip out west in some pretty stiff
conditions. I got converted to three point landings quickly.
Should have read, "I got converted to wheel landings quickly."
Second...
Don't stress too much about the camping gear except for the intermittent stops.
If you fly the Firestar that far, we'll take care of anything you might need
once you are here. You kinda get adopted once you are here. Jimmy Y may be
able to help out in between [Question] .
Important to be comfortable with short fields over obstacles (trees). Nauga is
Kolb friendly but it will get your attention if you are used to landing on long
runways with clear approaches.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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| Subject: | Re: Full Enclosure |
Eric,
The full enclosure is made of fabric and clear vinyl I think.Got mine from Kolb
.It velcro's on.With a little foam gasket between the wing and upper windshield
support it closes up pretty good.Bt don't try to go fast,it pressures up on
the inside and I had it blow loose on the right side and tail back far enough
that the prop put a slice in the vinyl window before I could yank it back into
the rear seat.
?G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Marenyi <marenyi@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:03 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Full Enclosure
I am wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar II and what
benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there. If you have a
jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure. Is there a place to
buy the enclosures?
Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud Kolb owner very soon (pending answers to
these questions)
Eric M.
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| Subject: | Re: Full Enclosure |
Hi Eric,
Here some pictures of the full enclosure installed on my FireStar II. The
rear clear cover is not installed completely so you can see it's not
stretched. It protects you from the elements and keeps you warmer in the winter.
The down side is your adding more weight, need to undo the Velcro on of
the rear cover to pull start the engine and slows you down a little. Yes you
can still shoe horn a grown up in the jump seat. I ordered my enclosure
kit from Kolb. I fly with the full enclosure in the winter and remove the
rear cover in the summer.
Hope this helps,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
_Will's FireStar_
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1089406573728651489&ei=0Y_KSu3eApbWrQKvlu2KDg&q=firestar+site:google.com&hl=en&emb=1#)
_Kolb FireStar II_
(http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1480724639524498797&hl=en)
In a message dated 10/5/2009 9:06:30 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
marenyi@gmail.com writes:
I am wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar II
and what benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there. If you
have a jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure. Is there
a place to buy the enclosures?
Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud Kolb owner very soon (pending
answers to these questions)
Eric M.
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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| Subject: | Floats on Firestar II |
I just saw this on YouTube and was pretty amazed, its retractable gear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPrAbIK-Xsg
There is also some other videos of the Amphib Float here:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kolb+seaplane&search_type=&aq=f
Does anyone have any info on either of them. I would love to do this one
day! I see it is a Full Lotus FL1000 float, but I have never seen the
retractable gear and dont know where to find that at all.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Eric
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| Subject: | Re: Full Enclosure |
Thanks Will, that does help a lot!
Do you know if there is a cabin heater made for the enclosure? I would
imagine it wouldnt be too hard to fashion one. I was talking to another guy
today who said the enclosure acts almost like a greenhouse and keeps you
pretty warm in the winter, but I never asked him about the heater.
Thanks
Eric
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, <WillUribe@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi Eric,
> Here some pictures of the full enclosure installed on my FireStar II. The
> rear clear cover is not installed completely so you can see it's not
> stretched. It protects you from the elements and keeps you warmer in the
> winter. The down side is your adding more weight, need to undo the Velcro on
> of the rear cover to pull start the engine and slows you down a little. Yes
> you can still shoe horn a grown up in the jump seat. I ordered my enclosure
> kit from Kolb. I fly with the full enclosure in the winter and remove the
> rear cover in the summer.
>
>
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Eric,
I bought my full enclosure from Kolb, and it included the fabric and
clear vinyl as well as a full sheet of Lexan, a hoop for the top of the
enclosure, two side rods for the back of the Lexan and an aluminum rod
for the center of the windshield.
While I used it for years and even incorporated a heater for really
cold weather. I did not feel that it was as suitable as it could have
been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design. I also found that the
vinyl part that fully enclosed the rear of the cockpit cut my speed down
by 5 to 7 MPH. I also found that there was not much noticeable
difference in temp. as far comfort was concerned. I no longer use the
vinyl part, a silk scarf and a rag wool hat over my headset, a Chili
Vest with a pair of gloves and I am good down to 24 degrees so far. Not
real interested in experimenting further in that direction.
Larry C, Oregon Firestar II
----- Original Message -----
From: zeprep251@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Full Enclosure
Eric,
The full enclosure is made of fabric and clear vinyl I think.Got mine
from Kolb .It velcro's on.With a little foam gasket between the wing and
upper windshield support it closes up pretty good.Bt don't try to go
fast,it pressures up on the inside and I had it blow loose on the right
side and tail back far enough that the prop put a slice in the vinyl
window before I could yank it back into the rear seat.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Marenyi <marenyi@gmail.com>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:03 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Full Enclosure
I am wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar
II and what benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there.
If you have a jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure.
Is there a place to buy the enclosures?
Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud Kolb owner very soon (pending
answers to these questions)
Eric M.
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| Subject: | Re: Full Enclosure |
Eric,
I never needed a heater but I know of one who installed one. Talk to John
H about the Chilly vest or look it up in the archives.
Hope this helps
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
In a message dated 10/5/2009 6:50:33 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
marenyi@gmail.com writes:
Thanks Will, that does help a lot!
Do you know if there is a cabin heater made for the enclosure? I would
imagine it wouldnt be too hard to fashion one. I was talking to another guy
today who said the enclosure acts almost like a greenhouse and keeps you
pretty warm in the winter, but I never asked him about the heater.
Thanks
Eric
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, <_WillUribe@aol.com_
(mailto:WillUribe@aol.com) > wrote:
Hi Eric,
Here some pictures of the full enclosure installed on my FireStar II. The
rear clear cover is not installed completely so you can see it's not
stretched. It protects you from the elements and keeps you warmer in the winter.
The down side is your adding more weight, need to undo the Velcro on of
the rear cover to pull start the engine and slows you down a little. Yes you
can still shoe horn a grown up in the jump seat. I ordered my enclosure
kit from Kolb. I fly with the full enclosure in the winter and remove the
rear cover in the summer.
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Larry, you said "I did not feel that it was as suitable as it could have
been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design" but I dont follow you as
to what design you have morphed to? did you send a picture that I didn't
get?
Eric
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>wrote:
> Eric,
> I bought my full enclosure from Kolb, and it included the fabric and
> clear vinyl as well as a full sheet of Lexan, a hoop for the top of the
> enclosure, two side rods for the back of the Lexan and an aluminum rod for
> the center of the windshield.
>
> While I used it for years and even incorporated a heater for really cold
> weather. I did not feel that it was as suitable as it could have been, and
> my enclosure has morphed to this design. I also found that the vinyl part
> that fully enclosed the rear of the cockpit cut my speed down by 5 to 7 MPH.
> I also found that there was not much noticeable difference in temp. as far
> comfort was concerned. I no longer use the vinyl part, a silk scarf and a
> rag wool hat over my headset, a Chili Vest with a pair of gloves and I am
> good down to 24 degrees so far. Not real interested in experimenting further
> in that direction.
> Larry C, Oregon Firestar II
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* zeprep251@aol.com
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 5:37 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Full Enclosure
>
> Eric,
> The full enclosure is made of fabric and clear vinyl I think.Got mine from
> Kolb .It velcro's on.With a little foam gasket between the wing and upper
> windshield support it closes up pretty good.Bt don't try to go fast,it
> pressures up on the inside and I had it blow loose on the right side and
> tail back far enough that the prop put a slice in the vinyl window before I
> could yank it back into the rear seat.
> G.Aman
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eric Marenyi <marenyi@gmail.com>
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:03 am
> Subject: Kolb-List: Full Enclosure
>
> I am wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar II
> and what benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there. If you
> have a jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure. Is there a
> place to buy the enclosures?
>
> Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud Kolb owner very soon (pending answers
> to these questions)
>
> Eric M.
>
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>
>
> *
>
> *
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Larry, Nevermind, it took my email a while to show them, I see what you
meant now!
Thanks!! Eric
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:24 PM, Eric Marenyi <marenyi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Larry, you said "I did not feel that it was as suitable as it could have
> been, and my enclosure has morphed to this design" but I dont follow you as
> to what design you have morphed to? did you send a picture that I didn't
> get?
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>> I bought my full enclosure from Kolb, and it included the fabric and
>> clear vinyl as well as a full sheet of Lexan, a hoop for the top of the
>> enclosure, two side rods for the back of the Lexan and an aluminum rod for
>> the center of the windshield.
>>
>> While I used it for years and even incorporated a heater for really
>> cold weather. I did not feel that it was as suitable as it could have been,
>> and my enclosure has morphed to this design. I also found that the vinyl
>> part that fully enclosed the rear of the cockpit cut my speed down by 5 to 7
>> MPH. I also found that there was not much noticeable difference in temp. as
>> far comfort was concerned. I no longer use the vinyl part, a silk scarf and
>> a rag wool hat over my headset, a Chili Vest with a pair of gloves and I am
>> good down to 24 degrees so far. Not real interested in experimenting further
>> in that direction.
>> Larry C, Oregon Firestar II
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* zeprep251@aol.com
>> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 05, 2009 5:37 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Full Enclosure
>>
>> Eric,
>> The full enclosure is made of fabric and clear vinyl I think.Got mine from
>> Kolb .It velcro's on.With a little foam gasket between the wing and upper
>> windshield support it closes up pretty good.Bt don't try to go fast,it
>> pressures up on the inside and I had it blow loose on the right side and
>> tail back far enough that the prop put a slice in the vinyl window before I
>> could yank it back into the rear seat.
>> G.Aman
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eric Marenyi <marenyi@gmail.com>
>> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Mon, Oct 5, 2009 11:03 am
>> Subject: Kolb-List: Full Enclosure
>>
>> I am wondering how you go about putting a full enclosure on a firestar II
>> and what benefits does it have, as well as what downsides are there. If you
>> have a jump seat can you still get into it with a full enclosure. Is there a
>> place to buy the enclosures?
>>
>> Thanks everyone. I hope to be a proud Kolb owner very soon (pending
>> answers to these questions)
>>
>> Eric M.
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>> *
>>
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>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c*
>>
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| Subject: | John H - Info about Chilly Vest |
As the subject implies I was looking for some info about the Chilly Vest. I
tried to search in the archives but I didnt have any luck except for another
message asking about it. What is it? What does it do? Where can I get it?
and how much is it?
Thanks,
Eric
P.S. You guys on this list are great!
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| Subject: | Re: Firestars & gusts????? |
Hi Frank,
I have landed my FireStar in some bad winds. One time Dave Rains and I
were landing in Apple Valley, when on the base leg, the automated wind shear
alert came on over the radio. While taxing very slow the tail on my
FireStar came up because of the gusting winds. When we got to parking we needed
the assistance of the ground crew to hold the FireStars so we can get off the
tie them down. When we walked into the FBO the heavy iron drivers couldn't
believe we were flying in that wind everybody else was grounded.
This was one time my Kolb far exceeded my skill or someone with greater
powers was looking over us.
Another time after I landed in very gusty winds I was opening the hanger
doors when the wind started pushing the FireStar back. I almost lost it had
I it not been for someone who came over and helped me put it in the
hanger. Check out the wind sock on this picture after we had just landed.
Regard,
Will Uribe
El Paso, TX
FireStar II N4GU
In a message dated 10/4/2009 1:01:51 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
frank.goodnight@att.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: "frank.goodnight"
<frank.goodnight@att.net>
Decided to pratice takeoffs and landings today , in gusty conditions.
Firestar 2 @ 725lbs
Runway heading 13
wind 170 @ 14k gusting 20k, gust were rather closely spaced.
DA 2400 ft.
My goal was to touch down within 50 yards of my selected touch down
point and feel
safe and in compleat control. I couldn't do it. I was really pushing
it to stay within 100 yards.
I only did 6 landings because I felt like I was at or maybe exceading
my skill limits.
As I am planing 2 rather long X countrys this spring, one to Utah &
one to Sun&Fun, I'm
sure I'll run into rough weather and I need to pratice for it.
MY questions to anyone who flys a firestar are , what do you think is
a reasonable limit for
the firestar regarding gusty conditions and crosswind components?
I realize that each pilot has a different skill level, I,m trying to
raise mine up to what the airplane can do, but I don't want to push
hard enough to get in trouble. any thoughts will be appreciated
and helpful.
Frank Goodnight
Firestar2 HKS 55161
Brownsville , TX
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| Subject: | Re: John H - Info about Chilly Vest |
http://www.sargentcycle.com/chillivest.htm
As the subject implies I was looking for some info about the Chilly
Vest.
Thanks,
Eric
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| Subject: | Chilly vest VS Gerbing`s |
Eric, I own a chilly vest which I like. I also own Gerbing`s 12 volt heated
clothing which I use while riding my Honda Valkyrie Interstate Motorcycle.
The Gerbing`s keeps me warmer then the Chilly vest. Not cheap but worth the
money. Check the Gerbing`s web site for more info. Lanny FSII
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