Kolb-List Digest Archive

Fri 10/09/09


Total Messages Posted: 25



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:23 AM - Re: Re: Something constructive for Kolbs (Richard Girard)
     2. 03:39 AM - Re: Re: Liability for selling your aircraft (was: Not Kolb related (pj.ladd)
     3. 03:53 AM - FAA AC 20-27G (Richard Girard)
     4. 04:40 AM - Re: FireFly - MZ 34 Start Up (Jack B. Hart)
     5. 05:07 AM - Re: law suit after selling plane? (Thom Riddle)
     6. 05:25 AM - Re: Re: law suit after selling plane? (russ kinne)
     7. 06:44 AM - Re: Fall is here (planecrazzzy)
     8. 07:35 AM - Re: Fall is here (robcannon)
     9. 08:40 AM - Re: Liability for selling your aircraft (was: Not Kolb related (JetPilot)
    10. 10:04 AM - what happened to the online Google questionare reaults? (Jason Omelchuck)
    11. 11:10 AM - Re: what happened to the online Google questionare 	reaults? (Robert Laird)
    12. 12:47 PM - A new Kolb ready for flight (cspoke)
    13. 12:56 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (Jim Kmet)
    14. 01:22 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (Beauford T)
    15. 01:38 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (ces308)
    16. 01:41 PM - Re: Re: law suit after selling plane? (possums)
    17. 01:47 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (russ kinne)
    18. 01:51 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (loseyf@comcast.net)
    19. 02:11 PM - Re: Re: Fall is here (zeprep251@aol.com)
    20. 02:15 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (John Hauck)
    21. 02:21 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (Arksey@aol.com)
    22. 02:21 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (neilsenrm@comcast.net)
    23. 03:48 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (Larry Cottrell)
    24. 04:22 PM - Re: law suit after selling plane? (JetPilot)
    25. 08:09 PM - Re: A new Kolb ready for flight (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:23:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Something constructive for Kolbs
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Richard, That was the point I started at, I had refills for the clearview filter on hand and some old brass compression fittings to modify to carry them. I was almost to the point of turning the lathe on when I realized the y wouldn't go through the hole in the tank. I use the Kolb pickups for the plastic tank and the fitting has to fit in a 1/2" hole. That became the limiting factor on the size of the screens. So these became gross filters that will limit the size of debris going up the pickups to .06" which will be collected by the fuel filter upstream of the fuel valve.Next post I'll have pictures of the new fuel filling filter that will keep crud out of the tank in the first place. Rick On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote: > > > rickofudall wrote: > > After the engine out caused by something caught in the fuel selector > valve and discussion here, Jim Baker suggested some fuel pickup screens > originally intended for jet skis. He even had part numbers and a source, > Dennis Kirk. It was just what I was looking for, but then the "I'll build it > myself" bug bit.=EF=BD Off to the junk drawers and I came up with a co uple of > barbed tube fittings, some brass sheet stock and a little silver solder. A > little turning on the lathe, some drilling on the mill, and a little time > with the torch and I had my pickup screens.=EF=BD > > > > > > Rick Girard > > do not archive > > > You do nice work. I am sold on good pickup screens, don't have any > pictures, but I enclose my pickup tube with a nylon mesh filter I got at > Advance Auto Parts, it is about as big around as my thumb, and several > inches long, think it was intended to be part of a Ford truck gas tank > pickup. I got lucky, talked the guy into letting me look through his boxe s > of nylon fuel filters as long as I promised to put them all back into the > same cubbyholes... If I was in your shoes, I would find a big nylon mesh > screen gas filter to slip over your nice pickups and safety wire them tig ht > into place. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267186#267186 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > >


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    Time: 03:39:37 AM PST US
    From: "pj.ladd" <pj.ladd@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Liability for selling your aircraft (was: Not Kolb
    related . If you think you know more and can give better legal advice to members of this forum on this subject than an aviation lawyer, then you must be much more experienced in this field than I gave you credit for.>> Oh dear Mike. Thank you for your reasonable reply to my post. Did you really have to keep up your reputation by adding the snide and quite unnecessary comments above. Cheers Pat


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    Time: 03:53:12 AM PST US
    Subject: FAA AC 20-27G
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    The FAA has released the latest version of Advisory Circular 20-27G, "Certification and Operation of Amateur-Built Aircraft". Topics covered are: (1) Certificating and operating your amateur-built aircraft, (2) What to do and know before building an amateur-built aircraft, (3) Designing and constructing your amateur-built aircraft, (4) Fabricating and assembling your amateur-built aircraft, (5) Registering your amateur-built aircraft, (6) Identifying and marking your amateur-built aircraft, (7) Applying for certification of your amateur-built aircraft, (8) FAA inspection of your amateur-built aircraft, (9) Issuing an airworthiness certificate for your amateur-built aircraft, (10) Flight testing your amateur-built aircraft, (11) Operating your amateur-built aircraft after flight testing, (12) Amateur-built aircraft built outside the United States and purchased by a U.S. citizen, (13) Becoming a repairman for your amateur-built aircraft, and (14) General safety recommendations. A copy can be downloaded here: http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC%2020-27G.pdf Rick Girard


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    Time: 04:40:14 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Re: FireFly - MZ 34 Start Up
    Bill, It, the bulb, was designed for marine use where there is not that much head difference between the tank and the engine. Today, it is going to be an inside day because of rain, so I will go to the airport and remove the bulb and bring it home. It is assembled with wire spring clamps on each end of the bulb. I will remove them and pull out the valve assemblies and see if I can insert a perforated tube liner between and over the valve assemblies to prevent total collapse of the bulb. This should allow the fuel to pass on through even though the liner collapses. To maintain bulb pumping function the aluminum liner tube will be drilled full of holes. For ultra light vehicle use, this fix should be much lighter than the original bulb that came with the FireFly, and much simpler than the bulb and bypass system. So if it works, your suggested bulb will be better than what I had originally. If not I will fall back to the bypass system. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN ..................... From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com Jack, I'm the one who suggested that NAPA had a primer bulb. I recently installed one on my Kolb FireStar and didn't experience the collapsing you have, probably because I use a bypass line on my fuel routing setup. Still, glad you pointed it out as a potential problem area.


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    Time: 05:07:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: law suit after selling plane?
    From: "Thom Riddle" <riddletr@gmail.com>
    The best defense against lawsuits is very simple.... poverty. Lawyers first and foremost look for deep pockets. If they don't find worthwhile attachable assets then they stop bothering you. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x34 A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works. - John Gaule Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267202#267202


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    Time: 05:25:20 AM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: law suit after selling plane?
    Seems to me poverty is common if not rampant in the flying fraternity. Maybe we're safe! do not archive On Oct 9, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Thom Riddle wrote: > > The best defense against lawsuits is very simple.... poverty. > Lawyers first and foremost look for deep pockets. If they don't > find worthwhile attachable assets then they stop bothering you. > > do not archive > > -------- > Thom Riddle > Buffalo, NY > Kolb Slingshot SS-021 > Jabiru 2200A #1574 > Tennessee Prop 64x34 > > A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved > from a simple system that works. > - John Gaule > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267202#267202 > >


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    Time: 06:44:08 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fall is here
    From: "planecrazzzy" <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com>
    What is that Yellow Plane ??? I'm think 'n "Beaver" ??? . . Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN . . JP-KMA! . . . . -------- . . . . New Kolb Forum - No JP http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kolbaircraft/ . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267216#267216


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    Time: 07:35:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fall is here
    From: "robcannon" <leecannon@telus.net>
    The yellow plane is a Canadian mfg " Chinook ". Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267221#267221


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    Time: 08:40:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Liability for selling your aircraft (was: Not Kolb related
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Pat, You are correct, the last line was uncalled for. I hope you accept my apology. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267235#267235


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    Time: 10:04:04 AM PST US
    Subject: what happened to the online Google questionare reaults?
    From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com>
    I dont remember seeing the final tally for the on line survey that I filled out. Were they posted and I just missed it? Jason MKIII Yamana powered Portland, OR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267248#267248


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    Time: 11:10:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: what happened to the online Google questionare reaults?
    From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com>
    No final tally, yet. I did publish info when I had about 20 replies. The count, right now, is at 43... I was hoping to get 60-70, which is what previous polls had gotten. (or, maybe, just that many people were voting twice! :-) So, speaking to the broader group, if you haven't filled out the form yet, please do so soon! https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dDBfR083RWRGbHNvbUZFOWtFLXFTdHc6MA.. -- Robert On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Jason Omelchuck <jason@trek-tech.com>wrote: > > I dont remember seeing the final tally for the on line survey that I filled > out. Were they posted and I just missed it? > > Jason > MKIII Yamana powered > Portland, OR > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267248#267248 > >


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    Time: 12:47:21 PM PST US
    Subject: A new Kolb ready for flight
    From: "cspoke" <cspoke@gulftel.com>
    I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA, N381CS is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing. It looks like rain and storms all weekend but as soon as the weather clears, I will start the testing process. My plane is a Mark 3 XTRA with a VW with redrive. I have been lurking on the list for the 3 year building process and thanks to all for the great information. As soon as I get some performance numbers, I will post if anybody is interested. I included a couple of pics taken inside because it is raining. I will post more when the weather allows outside shots. -------- Craig Spoke Mk 111 Xtra VW (in the works) Lillian, AL cspoke@gulftel.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267270#267270 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094616_320x200_905.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094612_320x200_101.jpg


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    Time: 12:56:15 PM PST US
    From: "Jim Kmet" <jlsk1@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    NICE!!! Congrats!!! Jim Kmet 912/MK-3C Cookeville, TN, ----- Original Message ----- From: "cspoke" <cspoke@gulftel.com> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 2:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: A new Kolb ready for flight > > I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA, > N381CS is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing. It looks > like rain and storms all weekend but as soon as the weather clears, I will > start the testing process. My plane is a Mark 3 XTRA with a VW with > redrive. I have been lurking on the list for the 3 year building process > and thanks to all for the great information. As soon as I get some > performance numbers, I will post if anybody is interested. I included a > couple of pics taken inside because it is raining. I will post more when > the weather allows outside shots. > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mk 111 Xtra VW (in the works) > Lillian, AL > cspoke@gulftel.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267270#267270 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094616_320x200_905.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094612_320x200_101.jpg > > >


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    Time: 01:22:17 PM PST US
    From: "Beauford T" <beauford173@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    Brother Spoke: That is one classy looking piece of machinery, Sir... Hope your flight test phase is as easy as your airplane is pretty... Congratulations...! beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL Do not Archive ----- Original Message ----- I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA, N381CS is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing.


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    Time: 01:38:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
    Great Job !! Looks nice ! Good luck on your flight testing! chris ambrose M3X/Jabiru N327CS 70.8 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267279#267279


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    Time: 01:41:19 PM PST US
    From: possums <possums@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: law suit after selling plane?
    At 08:07 AM 10/9/2009, you wrote: > >The best defense against lawsuits is very simple.... poverty. I found the Liability Form the EAA uses for the Young Eagles, maybe a variation of it would work? I would think their lawyers have reviewed it to death by now.


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    Time: 01:47:32 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    NICE job, Craig! -- it's beautiful. I'm jealous. Congratulations, and enjoy it, Russ K do not archive On Oct 9, 2009, at 3:46 PM, cspoke wrote : > > I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 > XTRA, N381CS is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing. > It looks like rain and storms all weekend but as soon as the > weather clears, I will start the testing process. My plane is a > Mark 3 XTRA with a VW with redrive. I have been lurking on the list > for the 3 year building process and thanks to all for the great > information. As soon as I get some performance numbers, I will post > if anybody is interested. I included a couple of pics taken inside > because it is raining. I will post more when the weather allows > outside shots. > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mk 111 Xtra VW (in the works) > Lillian, AL > cspoke@gulftel.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267270#267270 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094616_320x200_905.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094612_320x200_101.jpg > >


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    Time: 01:51:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    From: loseyf@comcast.net
    Great looking bird! Congratulations Fran Losey Boca Raton, FL ------Original Message------ From: cspoke Sender: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com ReplyTo: kolb-list@matronics.com Subject: Kolb-List: A new Kolb ready for flight Sent: Oct 9, 2009 3:46 PM I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA, N381CS is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing. It looks like rain and storms all weekend but as soon as the weather clears, I will start the testing process. My plane is a Mark 3 XTRA with a VW with redrive. I have been lurking on the list for the 3 year building process and thanks to all for the great information. As soon as I get some performance numbers, I will post if anybody is interested. I included a couple of pics taken inside because it is raining. I will post more when the weather allows outside shots. -------- Craig Spoke Mk 111 Xtra VW (in the works) Lillian, AL cspoke@gulftel.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267270#267270 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094616_320x200_905.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094612_320x200_101.jpg Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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    Time: 02:11:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fall is here
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    Mike, ?It is a Chinook 2 with a 582 warp 3 blade.As soon as you get to your altitude you best bring the throttle back smartly or it runs up past 90mph before you know it. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: planecrazzzy <planecrazzzy@yahoo.com> Sent: Fri, Oct 9, 2009 9:43 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fall is here What is that Yellow Plane ??? I'm think 'n "Beaver" ??? . . Gotta Fly... Mike & "Jaz" in MN . . JP-KMA! . . . . -------- . . . . New Kolb Forum - No JP http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kolbaircraft/ . Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267216#267216


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    Time: 02:15:38 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    > I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA, > N381CS is a real airplane. > Craig Spoke Craig S/Gang: Congratulations. Good luck on your first flight and many more to come. john h mkIII Monument Valley, UT


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    Time: 02:21:47 PM PST US
    From: Arksey@aol.com
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    nice looking plane....you did good....if it performs as good as Rick Neilsen's MK lll C with a Volkswagon engine you will be very happy. jim do not archive JIM SWAN firestar ll, 503, N663S Eaton Rapids, Mi. 48827 PH 517-663-8488 runway 2300' E & W (42-28.58N 084-44.69 W )


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    Time: 02:21:47 PM PST US
    From: neilsenrm@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    Craig That's one beautifully airplane. Congratulations you are the first Xtra wit h a VW . Yes sent us more photos and flight reports. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: " cspoke " < cspoke @ gulftel .com> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2009 3:46:59 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Kolb -List: A new Kolb ready for flight --> Kolb -List message posted by: " cspoke " < cspoke @ gulftel .com> I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA , N381C S is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing. It looks like rain and storms all weekend but as soon as the weather clears, I will start the testing process. My plane is a Mark 3 XTRA with a VW with redrive . I have been lurking on the list for the 3 year building process and thanks to all for the great information. As soon as I get some performance numbers, I wi ll post if anybody is interested. I included a couple of pics taken inside because it is raining. I will post more when the weather allows outside sho ts. -------- Craig Spoke Mk 111 Xtra VW (in the works) Lillian, AL cspoke @ gulftel .com Read this topic online here: http ://forums. matronics .com/ viewtopic . php ?p=267270#267270 Attachments: http ://forums. matronics .com//files/pa094616_320x200_905. jpg http ://forums. matronics .com//files/pa094612_320x200_101. jpg =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle , List Admin. ===========


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    Time: 03:48:09 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    You did a great job from what I can see, however I lost my magnifying glass, so a lot of it is guess work on my part. :-) try only reducing the pictures to 1000 x 750 and I won't have to buy a new glass. :-) Larry ----- Original Message ----- From: cspoke To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 1:46 PM Subject: Kolb-List: A new Kolb ready for flight I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA, N381CS is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing. It looks like rain and storms all weekend but as soon as the weather clears, I will start the testing process. My plane is a Mark 3 XTRA with a VW with redrive. I have been lurking on the list for the 3 year building process and thanks to all for the great information. As soon as I get some performance numbers, I will post if anybody is interested. I included a couple of pics taken inside because it is raining. I will post more when the weather allows outside shots. -------- Craig Spoke Mk 111 Xtra VW (in the works) Lillian, AL cspoke@gulftel.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267270#267270 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094616_320x200_905.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pa094612_320x200_101.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 10/09/09 08:10:00


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    Subject: Re: law suit after selling plane?
    From: "JetPilot" <orcabonita@hotmail.com>
    Possums wrote: > > > I found the Liability Form the EAA uses for the > Young Eagles, maybe a variation of it would work? > I would think their lawyers have reviewed it to death by now. > Here is what you have to understand. No variation, no document, no contract, in no way would ever work. The person that buys your plane may or may not be able to sue you depending on the details, BUT.... The person that purchases your plane can NOT EVER sign the rights of his family away, they can sue you no matter what he signs. Mike -------- &quot;NO FEAR&quot; - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! Kolb MK-III Xtra, 912-S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=267297#267297


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    Time: 08:09:40 PM PST US
    From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
    Subject: Re: A new Kolb ready for flight
    In a message dated 10/9/2009 3:47:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cspoke@gulftel.com writes: I received my airworthiness certificate today. YEA!!!!! Mark 3 XTRA, N381CS is a real airplane. Now the fun starts-flight testing. It looks like rain and storms all weekend but as soon as the weather clears, I will start the testing process. My plane is a Mark 3 XTRA with a VW with redrive. I have been lurking on the list for the 3 year building process and thanks to all for the great information. As soon as I get some performance numbers, I will post if anybody is interested. I included a couple of pics taken inside because it is raining. I will post more when the weather allows outside shots. Craig, Your M3X looks beautiful. Please stop lurking. We have a great desire to hear what you have to say, especially about your VW. Congratulations on your accomplishment! Bill Varnes Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive




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