---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/19/09: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:18 AM - Re: Crash Photos (pj.ladd) 2. 03:21 AM - Fw: Super Cub Bear Attack 2009 (pj.ladd) 3. 05:55 AM - Re: Crash Photos (Richard Girard) 4. 09:32 AM - Firefly prop (Ducati SS) 5. 11:34 AM - Re: Firefly prop (JetPilot) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:18:06 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Crash Photos locked up the brakes and just went right over on his snout. Look at the struts, the channel carry through and the landing gear. The gear is almost pristine and the struts don't appear to be bent forward very much.>> Hi Richard, as you say, it is an interesting problem. However, I can`t imagine any scenario where the fuselage would break with the tail forward except a sudden full stop with quite a lot of forward motion. No brakes I ever saw could produce traction like that.Even assuming that they could the wheels would skid. The only way I can see this damage happening is driving full chat into a solid wall or diving into the ground. The struts have not moved forward much because there is nowhere for them to go. The wing is buried in the tarmac halfway to the main spar so the struts maximum forward movement could only be around 18 inches or maybe 2ft. Did no investigaton take place?. Here there would be a CAA report somewhere and probably available on line. Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:40 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: Fw: Super Cub Bear Attack 2009 Not Kolb but very interesting. John H where are you? Cheers Pat The pilot had not yet cleaned out the inside of his Super Cub after a long fishing trip, and a passing bear had a to have a look inside. The guy had 2 new tires, 3 cases of Duct Tape, and several rolls of cellophane delivered, and then went about repairing the plane so he could fly it home. Have a look at this ..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:06 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Crash Photos From: Richard Girard I don't know how the man listed his name or how discriminating the FAA database is when doing a name search, but just using the name from the news report, Gary Fender, no registration record is returned. None of the pictures show an N number, but the area where it might be is obscured by the horizontal stab. If he was operating as an ultralight any NTSB investigation is unlikely since ultralights aren't considered aircraft, they're a sporting device with no covering federal agency. That was the logic by which FAA got out of controlling ultralights in the beginning, I don't know if that's their rationale these days. If they weigh the wreckage and find the owner was in violation then some sort of enforcement action might take place, otherwise there was no passenger involved and the only property damage done was to his own so he'll most likely not be hearing from the feds. Rick Girard do not archive On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 4:17 AM, pj.ladd wrote: > locked up the brakes and just went right over on his snout. Look > at the struts, the channel carry through and the landing gear. The gear is > almost pristine and the struts don't appear to be bent forward very much.>> > > Hi Richard, > as you say, it is an interesting problem. However, I can`t imagine any > scenario where the fuselage would break with the tail forward except a > sudden full stop with quite a lot of forward motion. No brakes I ever saw > could produce traction like that.Even assuming that they could the wheels > would skid. The only way I can see this damage happening is driving full > chat into a solid wall or diving into the ground. > The struts have not moved forward much because there is nowhere for them to > go. The wing is buried in the tarmac halfway to the main spar so the struts > maximum forward movement could only be around 18 inches or maybe 2ft. > > Did no investigaton take place?. Here there would be a CAA report somewhere > and probably available on line. > > Pat > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:04 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Firefly prop From: "Ducati SS" I am new to this list, and in the final stages of building a Firefly. I am using a 3 blade Ivoprop. I expect to start and break in the engine in the next week or so. What would be a good initial setting. I know I will need to fine tune it later but I would like to have a reasonable load on the engine at start up. Standard Firefly engine gearbox package. Tom Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268548#268548 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:15 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Firefly prop From: "JetPilot" Do not prop for full RPM on the ground, if you do your EGT's will most likely be too high. My setting for a 447 on the ground is around 6100 - 6200 RPM. If you look at the power curve, you get very little more power at higher RPM's and just shorten the life of the engine hugely by trying to get every last HP out of it by running a high RPM... Mike -------- "NO FEAR" - If you have no fear you did not go as fast as you could have !!! 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