---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 10/21/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:43 AM - Re: Crash Photos (Dana Hague) 2. 02:03 AM - Re: Crash Photos (pj.ladd) 3. 07:04 AM - Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? (Jason Omelchuck) 4. 07:32 AM - Re: Crash Photos (John Hauck) 5. 07:40 AM - Re: Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? (John Hauck) 6. 08:24 AM - Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? (Jason Omelchuck) 7. 10:47 AM - Re: Building Kolb Mark 3 enclosed trailer sizing? (ces308) 8. 06:11 PM - Re: law suit after selling plane? (Don G) 9. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Building Kolb Mark 3 enclosed trailer sizing? (russ kinne) 10. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: law suit after selling plane? (Dana Hague) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:37 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Crash Photos At 05:17 AM 10/19/2009, pj.ladd wrote: > >Did no investigaton take place?. Here there would be a CAA report >somewhere and probably available on line. If it's an ultralight and there are no injuries to anybody on the ground the FAA or NTSB rarely investigate. -Dana -- C-CODE C-CODE RUN RUN CODE RUN RUN DAMMIT RUN ! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:03:16 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Crash Photos If it's an ultralight and there are no injuries to anybody on the ground the FAA or NTSB rarely investigate.>> Hi Dana, Your system has many freedoms but this looks like the downside. Here there would be an investigation. Not with the purpose of punishment but trying to find out what happened so that it could be avoided by others. Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:22 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? From: "Jason Omelchuck" I got my Sport Pilots license in a J3 and I feel this was a great airplane to transition to a MKIII from. If your girlfriend can find some kind of light tail dragger and learn to wheel land it, I believe her airplane will have a much better chance of surviving her first few hours unscathed. My $.02 worth Jason MKIII, Yamaha Powered Portland, OR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268796#268796 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:10 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Crash Photos Patrick/Gang: The government can not prevent folks from doing something stupid, whether it is the decision to push the throttle forward without proper training, equipment below acceptable standards, inclement weather, etc. I, personally, do not see a down side to this accident by not getting the FAA and NTSB involved. Both these agencies have their hands full investigating "real" airplane accidents. We are already over regulated and Obama wants to regulate us even more. ;-( More government, more tax. john h mkIII Marysvale, Utah - Snow on the higher 11,000+mountains on both sides of the valley. Three or four years ago John W and I flew over these mountains to land in Richfield, UT, for fuel and food. The Little Wonder Cafe on Main St is great!!! DO NOT ARCHIVE Your system has many freedoms but this looks like the downside. Here there would be an investigation. Not with the purpose of punishment but trying to find out what happened so that it could be avoided by others. Pat ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:30 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? > I got my Sport Pilots license in a J3 and I feel this was a great airplane to transition to a MKIII from. If your girlfriend can find some kind of light tail dragger and learn to wheel land it, I believe her airplane will have a much better chance of surviving her first few hours unscathed. > > My $.02 worth > > Jason Jason/Gang: I try to get a few inches off the ground before I let the airspeed get below stall speed when landing. If I get below stall speed at altitudes more than a few inches, it will stall and fall, whether one foot or 10 feet. My mkIII won't survive a stall from 20 feet, for sure. Worth what you paid for it. john h mkIII Marysvale, Utah ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:02 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? From: "Jason Omelchuck" > Jason/Gang: I try to get a few inches off the ground before I let the airspeed get below stall speed when landing. If I get below stall speed at altitudes more than a few inches, it will stall and fall, whether one foot or 10 feet. My mkIII won't survive a stall from 20 feet, for sure. Worth what you paid for it. john h mkIII Marysvale, Utah[/quote][/quote] Powerglider, I dont believe Johns advice should be substituted for training, or will help you find training for your girlfriends transition to her MKIII, but it couldent hurt to suggest to her not to stall her MKIII 20 feet above the runway. Jason MKIII, Yamaha Powered Portland, OR Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268808#268808 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:47:05 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Building Kolb Mark 3 enclosed trailer sizing? From: "ces308" Here are a couple of pictures.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268825#268825 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_3018_197.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_3014_451.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:03 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: law suit after selling plane? From: "Don G" Grant, Here is my advice..although as has been already said...its worth what you are paying for it... Demo the plane for the buyer...show him it is flys... then take it apart...not completely of course... just take the wings off and take out the fuel tank if its not too hard...simple things and have him help so he can see how to put it back together.. Then have him sign a doc that says he is buying an aircraft that is NOT in flying condition...parts sale only. Pack it up and send him on his way. Even a rookie lawyer could defend you against his heirs if he kills himself in it then. -------- Don G. Central Illinois Kitfox IV Speedster Luscombe 8A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268868#268868 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:34 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Building Kolb Mark 3 enclosed trailer sizing? MAAAAN, but that's one cool-looking Kolb! Congratulations! do not archive On Oct 21, 2009, at 1:45 PM, ces308 wrote: > > Here are a couple of pictures.... > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=268825#268825 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_3018_197.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_3014_451.jpg > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:41 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: law suit after selling plane? On this subject, I came across this last night while searching for something else: -Dana -- Does fuzzy logic tickle? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.