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1. 05:25 AM - Re: Cheap hanger ideas (gliderx5@comcast.net)
2. 05:32 AM - Sorry about the large post! (gliderx5@comcast.net)
3. 05:38 AM - Re: Building Kolb Mark 3 enclosed trailer sizing? (Thom Riddle)
4. 05:47 AM - Re: Cheap hanger ideas (Fredrick Kerfoot)
5. 05:55 AM - Re: Minimum Grass Strip Length??? (Thom Riddle)
6. 05:59 AM - Re: Cheap hanger ideas (Thom Riddle)
7. 07:33 AM - Re: Cheap hanger ideas (Charlie England)
8. 07:53 AM - Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? (powerglider)
9. 07:55 AM - Re: Cheap hanger ideas (Thom Riddle)
10. 08:11 AM - Re: Re: Cheap hanger ideas (Dana Hague)
11. 08:30 AM - Re: Cheap hanger ideas (Thom Riddle)
12. 08:45 AM - Re: Cheap hanger ideas (Richard Pike)
13. 08:56 AM - Re: Minimum Grass Strip Length??? (Richard Pike)
14. 09:09 AM - Re: Minimum Grass Strip Length??? (Thom Riddle)
15. 08:39 PM - Re: Re: Cheap hanger ideas (jerb)
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| Subject: | Sorry about the large post! |
Oops, My bad. Tried to attach a picture, but it did not work.
Malcolm Morrison
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| Subject: | Re: Building Kolb Mark 3 enclosed trailer sizing? |
Rick,
One "good" pothole can also do a lot of damage to a Kolb when the pothole is in
the airstrip. That is what trashed my early Firestar a couple years ago.
It was at the SW end (far end) of BB's 1,200' airstrip in the corn field that BB
posted in another thread. To further combine/confuse the topics of multiple
threads, I guess I should have sued him for the pothole but it never occurred
to me, since I was PIC, not his pothole. He subsequently filled it. Case closed
:-).
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
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| Subject: | Cheap hanger ideas |
If you don't mind folding the wings=2C you can get a used 40' Sea/Land con
tainer. They are strong=2C very secure=2C excellent protection from the wea
ther (anything short of tornado) lots of extra storage (40') and relatively
inexpensive. In Florida you can find a good used weather-tight container
for less than $2000 US. If you don't want to fold the wings you might want
to consider a pole shed.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4697457_build-pole-shed.html
FredK
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum Grass Strip Length??? |
And DON'T try to land on the threshold; give yourself some leeway on the approach
end.
Catching a fence with your main gear will ruin your day. Ask Richard Pike about
that. Or if you are unlucky and find a hidden pothole with your main gear at
the threshold, because you were trying to land shorter than necessary, that can
also ruin your day, as it did mine a few years ago.
If you land just a little long, running into an obstacle at walking speed at the
far end is far better than at approach speed on the approach end.
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
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| Subject: | Re: Cheap hanger ideas |
albertakolbmk3,
I respectfully request that you edit your signature, which includes lots of information
about your airplane, to include your name.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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| Subject: | Re: Cheap hanger ideas |
Fredrick Kerfoot wrote:
>
> If you don't mind folding the wings, you can get a used 40' Sea/Land
> container. They are strong, very secure, excellent protection from the
> weather (anything short of tornado) lots of extra storage (40') and
> relatively inexpensive. In Florida you can find a good used
> weather-tight container for less than $2000 US. If you don't want to
> fold the wings you might want to consider a pole shed.
>
> http://www.ehow.com/how_4697457_build-pole-shed.html
> <http://www.ehow.com/how_4697457_build-pole-shed.html>
>
> FredK
I'd 2nd that idea, with a minor mod to the technique. If you design with
a 'single pitch' roof, you can do it with 4x4 or 6x6 posts and steel
purlins, used to build metal buildings. The purlins can be purchased to
span amazing distances. Set 2 rows of posts at whatever width you need
for the plane, with the post spacing determined by spacing requirements
of the purlins you buy (typically around 4-5 feet). Make the 2 posts at
the entry end the tallest, and the posts at the back the shortest; your
choice of pitch. Pull a line along the posts at the chosen pitch angle,
mark the tops at that angle & cut the tops. Using 'Z' channel purlins
allows you to sit the purlin on the cut top of the post at the correct
angle. Cut wood wedges to fill the gaps between the purlin's 'web' and
the post, or just trim the high side of the posts at the right angle if
you're using 6x6 posts. Lay metal roofing on the purlins & go to work
with the screw gun.
Shelter done.
I added a 30x50 lean-to addition to my hangar using a similar technique
& built the entire structure totally alone. The 30' purlins were light
enough for me to lift one end & carry it up the ladder to set in its
hanger on one end, then lift the other end to the top of its post. The
32' pieces of roofing were placed on an over-extended extension ladder
going from the ground to the eave, then dragged/pushed onto the roof.
The work would have gone 3 or 4 times faster with a helper, but the
point is, a helper isn't absolutely required.
The benefit of the single pitch roof is that all the water runs to the
back, meaning you won't need a gutter on the front to keep water away at
the entrance. (Simpler to build, too.)
BTW, isn't it amazing how many new and unexpected things you can learn
when you visit a new web site? I've always wanted to 'learn to pole
dance at home'....
Charlie
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| Subject: | Re: Any Kolb instructors close to Burlington Iowa? |
Hi Dana,
I keep flying my paramotors, it's Dawn that bought the Kolb and wants to expand
her flying activities to include a faster and different style of flying.
I just never get tired of soaring, I want to spend more time this coming summer
in the sand dunes along the Michigan shoreline and paraglide without the motor.
I think it's best to come join the other threads, since this one is kind of a repeat
of the other two I started.
I'm in charge of the logistics of setting and maintaining the grass strips and
modifying the barn to become a hangar for the Kolb Mark 3 Dawn bought, those are
the new challenges.
I have a nice machine shop set up here on the farm, Haas TM-1P milling center is
the centerpiece, a few manual lathes to work the turning parts, looking to aquire
a cnc lathe in the next 18 months and a nice press brake (I had to leave
my Diacro press brake behind in Florida as I had already loaded 2 semi trailers
to bring to Iowa and couldn't justify a 3rd).
CHeck
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| Subject: | Re: Cheap hanger ideas |
The airport where I keep my Slingshot does not allow privately built hangars since
hangar rent is a big part of their revenue, at $250/mo rent and they are full
with a waiting list. However, on the end of each row of T-hangars is a 1/2
T-hangar space with a wide roll up garage type door. Some of these are used for
storage of ground maintenance equipment including snow plows etc.
I am renting one of the unused 1/2 T-hangar spaces and store my Slingshot in it
during the winter and tie-down outside during the summer flying season. I would
probably fold the wings after every flight and store it in the 1/2 T if it
did not require muffler removal. My A&P I/A partner and I
http://riddletr.googlepages.com/a%26pmechanix
store our tools and equipment there and do a small amount of maintenance and inspection
work on airplanes there which pays for our shop and my winter storage
space at $100/mo. It is not ideal but it is cheap enough with the bit of revenue
we get.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
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| Subject: | Re: Cheap hanger ideas |
At 10:54 AM 10/24/2009, Thom Riddle wrote:
>...on the end of each row of T-hangars is a 1/2 T-hangar space with a wide
>roll up garage type door. Some of these are used for storage of ground
>maintenance equipment including snow plows etc.
>
>I am renting one of the unused 1/2 T-hangar spaces and store my Slingshot
>in it during the winter and tie-down outside during the summer flying
>season. I would probably fold the wings after every flight and store it in
>the 1/2 T if it did not require muffler removal...
Couldn't you fit it in the 1/2 T by folding only one wing? Of course it
depends on which half of the T you have...
At our airport there's a Firestar (folded) and a gyrocopter sharing a 1/2 T.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Cheap hanger ideas |
Dana,
Yes I could fold just the left wing but would still have to remove the muffler
to do that. It has two springs (like Rotax exhaust) per cylinder and safety wire
securing each spring. Too much work for folding after every flight. If it were
not for the need to safety the springs, the muffler removal would probably
not be too onerous, but 8 safety wires is more than I'm willing to do every time
I want to fly. I have an adequate cover for the canopy and engine but will
be making a new and better one this winter.
While on this subject of tie-down outside... someone this list has commented that
the Jabiru engines are prone to hard starting in humid conditions, at least
the one(s) he was familiar with. It is not particularly humid here in Buffalo
during the summer except when it rains. Once this summer, my first attempts at
an engine cover failed during a rain storm and the engine was out in the rain
over night. It was drenched when I arrived at the airport the next morning.
It cranked right up with no problems.
Perhaps the Jabiru that someone commented about was a very early model or perhaps
the spark gaps (plugs and coils) were not set properly, or their distributer
caps were not sealing properly. I can't say but can say without equivocation
that I've not had any starting problems on my Jabiru 2200A (#1574) in any conditions,
including those just described.... discounting the time I left the master
switch on overnight :-).
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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| Subject: | Re: Cheap hanger ideas |
albertakolbmk3 wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Anyone have some good ideas for a cheap hangar just to keep snow and the likes
off of the kolb?
Here is a page showing how I built my hangar back in the 80's, we added another
one just like it alongside a couple years back for Ed's FSII. It cost $1800 to
build 25 years ago, Ed's recent one cost about $3200.
We use a roll up and roll down tarp across the front.
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/Hangar.html
One correction to the article on that page, what took 4 days 25 years ago takes
2 weeks after you pass age 60...
I can post more pictures if you want.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum Grass Strip Length??? |
Thom Riddle wrote:
> And DON'T try to land on the threshold; give yourself some leeway on the approach
end.
>
> Catching a fence with your main gear will ruin your day. Ask Richard Pike about
that.
>
> do not archive
Yep. Starting next week, I will begin putting Bro. Ed's airplane back together.
Just when my son is buying a house on the next block and wants me to help remodel
it. Yippee.... (Actually, Ed missed the fence with the mains, snagged it
with the tail)
Speaking of short fields, did my biennial flight review in the MKIII on Wednesday,
and was doing a short approach, short field landing for the check pilot -
his comment: "This thing couldn't come down any quicker if it was made of bricks!"
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Minimum Grass Strip Length??? |
Richard,
Thanks for correcting the error in my aging memory. In any case the net result
was a very bad day.
do not archive
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system
that works.
- John Gaule
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| Subject: | Re: Cheap hanger ideas |
There a way of interlocking the springs using small dia. aircraft
cable where it can be quickly removed and taken out. Think about how
you would do it.
jerb
At 08:30 AM 10/24/2009, you wrote:
>
>Dana,
>
>Yes I could fold just the left wing but would still have to remove
>the muffler to do that. It has two springs (like Rotax exhaust) per
>cylinder and safety wire securing each spring. Too much work for
>folding after every flight. If it were not for the need to safety
>the springs, the muffler removal would probably not be too onerous,
>but 8 safety wires is more than I'm willing to do every time I want
>to fly. I have an adequate cover for the canopy and engine but will
>be making a new and better one this winter.
>
>While on this subject of tie-down outside... someone this list has
>commented that the Jabiru engines are prone to hard starting in
>humid conditions, at least the one(s) he was familiar with. It is
>not particularly humid here in Buffalo during the summer except when
>it rains. Once this summer, my first attempts at an engine cover
>failed during a rain storm and the engine was out in the rain over
>night. It was drenched when I arrived at the airport the next
>morning. It cranked right up with no problems.
>
>Perhaps the Jabiru that someone commented about was a very early
>model or perhaps the spark gaps (plugs and coils) were not set
>properly, or their distributer caps were not sealing properly. I
>can't say but can say without equivocation that I've not had any
>starting problems on my Jabiru 2200A (#1574) in any conditions,
>including those just described.... discounting the time I left the
>master switch on overnight :-).
>
>--------
>Thom Riddle
>Buffalo, NY
>Kolb Slingshot SS-021
>Jabiru 2200A #1574
>Tennessee Prop 64x31
>
>A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from
>a simple system that works.
> - John Gaule
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=269232#269232
>
>
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