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0. 12:07 AM - Reminder (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:55 AM - Re: need info (frank.goodnight)
2. 06:09 AM - Re: Re: Autumn flight in Kansas (Richard Girard)
3. 06:30 AM - Re: Autumn flight in Kansas (robert bean)
4. 12:28 PM - Tuft study stills (Richard Girard)
5. 04:12 PM - Re: Tuft study stills (Dana Hague)
6. 04:17 PM - (K I)
7. 04:51 PM - Re: (Dana Hague)
8. 05:05 PM - 503 limits (Lanny Fetterman)
9. 05:14 PM - Re: 503 limits (Larry Cottrell)
10. 06:54 PM - Re: (Richard Girard)
11. 09:34 PM - Re: (K I)
12. 11:50 PM - Tuft video (Richard Girard)
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Hi gang,
Thanks to you guys that responded to my request for info.
The list is a wealth of info , seems like there is someone on it ,
that knows something that is
applicable to almost any problem. Can save a lot of time ,
labor ,materials ,and mistakes.
---Love it---
Frank Goodnight
Firestar 2
Brownsville , TX
Over 100 hrs on my HKS no serious problems
On Nov 4, 2009, at 4:44 PM, frank.goodnight wrote:
> >
>
> I,m making a wind screen and need some help. .080 lexan when
> attatching to a 5/8 tube.
> Should I use screws with a coushin between the tube and the lexan?
> Or is it OK to just
> pop rivet it to the tube? Thanks for any advice
>
> FRANK GOODNIGHT
> FIRESTAR 2
> BROWNSVILLE , TX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Autumn flight in Kansas |
Richard, I don't want to annoy anybody. I offset the carbon from the 582 by
keeping the thermostat in my house at 55 and doing solar harvesting (opening
and closing blinds to follow the sun's track, not very high tech but it
works)
For what it's worth, I know about climate change, I grew up in the central
valley of California and watched it happen there. I moved to Seattle in the
late 70's and watched it go from clear skies and clean air to air pollution
alerts within 20 years. If you want to believe the industry lackeys and
outright liars, feel free. I'll believe my eyes.
Rick
Do not archive
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:57 PM, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote:
>
>
> ces308 wrote:
> > Rick,
> >
> > Nice pictures ! Second...do you think VG's would help the cabin side
> area??
> >
> > chris ambrose
> > Mark III Xtra / Jabiru A-2200
> > N327CS
>
>
> Get some VG's some tape, and stick them in various places on the doors,
> fuselage sides, etc. And film all of them. You might get lucky.
>
> At worst, it would be like feeding crackers to a dead man...couldn't hurt
> much... Tell everybody you're on an FFF project - flyin', filmin, and foolin
> around... As long as you can annoy Al Gore by adding CO2 to feed the
> cabbages it's all good...
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=271064#271064
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Autumn flight in Kansas |
I'm looking forward to those movies.
BB
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On 4, Nov 2009, at 10:04 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> After the chickens and guineas were loosed, the dog walked, and the
> second cup of coffee, I hit the hangar determined to get two
> projects done. One, build a camera mount to go on the top of the
> left strut and, two, tuft up the left side of the fuselage and go
> fly around and film the tufts. The camera mount was pretty straight
> forward, just a couple of pieces of aluminum angle and a few holes.
> Tufting up the fuselage didn't take long and by the time I had Zulu
> Delta all fueled and ready it occurred to me that my neighbor, John,
> had asked me about how the Kolb landed with flaps. Seemed like a
> great way to get him to take a few pictures so I did a half flap
> take off and landing then a full flap landing after which I departed
> the pattern to go see if my first attempt at aerial videography
> would net me anything. The little Nikon did great although the
> contrast when the camera was in the shade and I was backlighted was
> a bit too much to ask.
> The tuft study was done at airspeeds from 62 to 84 mph and confirmed
> what I suspected. The sides aft of the pilot on the Mk IIIC are
> pretty much stagnated or otherwise disturbed. only the most aft
> tufts showed straight flow going into the prop. In the middle of the
> panel all the tufts point upward at ever increasing angles as speed
> increases. Those just behind the widest point of the fuselage are
> very disturbed. The two upper ones got entangled almost immediately
> and stayed that way throughout the flight regardless of speed. The
> most curious was the lowest tuft in the second row aft. It pointed
> forward no matter the speed while both the ones immediately forward
> and aft of it were pointing aft and up.
> Now I have to learn to use Movie Maker so I can cut the video down
> and add titles for each of the speed ranges. As soon as I have it
> ready I'll post it on You Tube.
> Although I didn't film or get any pictures of the second flight of
> the day. I got the prop extension bolts just after noon and had the
> extension on in time to make a flight just before sundown. I
> suspect, given that my tach bouncing problem reappeared, although
> milder than running the two blade prop, that my next project is
> going to be a prop balancer.
>
> Rick Girard
> <STOL lift off 3 resize.jpg><Half flaps and slippin resize.jpg><full
> flap roundout 1 resize.jpg><All tufted up.jpg>
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| Subject: | Tuft study stills |
So far so good. I've learned how to break out still pictures from the video.
Using my timeline (I took a stop watch with me on the flight) I took stills
from each of the speed ranges I studied. To the extent possible I tried to
be random in the selection so I didn't cherry pick a shot to match my
conclusions.
If anyone on the forum is an experienced Movie Maker user and you have any
tips, please contact me off forum, otherwise, please don't laugh at my
bumbling. :-)
Rick Girard
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| Subject: | Re: Tuft study stills |
At 03:24 PM 11/5/2009, Richard Girard wrote:
>So far so good. I've learned how to break out still pictures from the
>video. Using my timeline (I took a stop watch with me on the flight) I
>took stills from each of the speed ranges I studied. To the extent
>possible I tried to be random in the selection so I didn't cherry pick a
>shot to match my conclusions.
Interesting. It looks like you have smoother airflow at lower speed (i.e.
higher AOA) than higher speed. The flow seems to be disturbed form
surfaces farther forward, so I'd say the flow over the windshield is
smoother at higher AOA (which make sense from what I know of the Kolb
windshield shape).
-Dana
--
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Hi List=2C
I am a long time reader of the list. This is my second posting. The first t
ime I posted a question on this list=2C I ended up buying a Kolb F/S2.
I have had the plane since May=2C 2009. It is in fair to good condition. I
have been taking flying lessons in a tail wheel. I am making some adjustmen
t to the plane and minor repairs. I have had my first =93Annual=94 with the
FAA inspector. Some of the things I need to do is mark the CHT and EGT wit
h operating range and limits. I read online that the Maximum RPM for the 50
3 is 6800.
My plane has a Rotax 503 DCDI with the oil injection. It has a =93B=94 bo
x with a 3 blade IVO propeller.
Could someone with a similar setup tell me what the operating limits are?
Thanks=2C
Kurt
Kolb F/S2 Rotax 503
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At 07:13 PM 11/5/2009, K I wrote:
>I have had the plane since May, 2009. It is in fair to good condition. I
>have been taking flying lessons in a tail wheel. I am making some
>adjustment to the plane and minor repairs. I have had my first "Annual"
>with the FAA inspector. Some of the things I need to do is mark the CHT
>and EGT with operating range and limits. I read online that the Maximum
>RPM for the 503 is 6800.
>
>My plane has a Rotax 503 DCDI with the oil injection. It has a "B" box
>with a 3 blade IVO propeller.
>
> Could someone with a similar setup tell me what the operating limits are?
If you bought the plane already flying, the operating limits should have
been specified by the original builder in the original operating limitations.
-Dana
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Kurt, CHT normal 355 -430 F Max 480 F EGT normal 860 - 1080 F Max 1200
F Lanny FSII
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http://www.rotax-owner.com/
will give you operators manuals as well.
Larry C
----- Original Message -----
From: Lanny Fetterman
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 6:04 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: 503 limits
Kurt, CHT normal 355 -430 F Max 480 F EGT normal 860 - 1080 F Max
1200
F Lanny FSII
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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
11/05/09 07:37:00
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| Subject: | Re: : Kolb-List: |
Kurt, You can find what you need in the Rotax 2 Stroke Operaters Manual,
Chapter 10 page 1. You can download it at the Rotax Owners Association
Network (ROAN).
Rick Girard
do not archive
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
> At 07:13 PM 11/5/2009, K I wrote:
>
> I have had the plane since May, 2009. It is in fair to good condition. I
> have been taking flying lessons in a tail wheel. I am making some adjustm
ent
> to the plane and minor repairs. I have had my first =93Annual=94 with the
FAA
> inspector. Some of the things I need to do is mark the CHT and EGT with
> operating range and limits. I read online that the Maximum RPM for the 50
3
> is 6800.
>
> My plane has a Rotax 503 DCDI with the oil injection. It has a =93B=94
box
> with a 3 blade IVO propeller.
>
> Could someone with a similar setup tell me what the operating limits are
?
>
>
> If you bought the plane already flying, the operating limits should have
> been specified by the original builder in the original operating
> limitations.
>
> -Dana
> --
> Welcome to the Federal Bureau for Reducing Bureaucracy!
>
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Dana=2C You are correct. It should have.
From: d-m-hague@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Kolb-List:
At 07:13 PM 11/5/2009=2C K I wrote:
I have had the plane since May=2C 2009. It is in fair to good condition. I
have been taking flying lessons in a tail wheel. I am making some adjustmen
t to the plane and minor repairs. I have had my first =93Annual=94 with the
FAA inspector. Some of the things I need to do is mark the CHT and EGT wit
h operating range and limits. I read online that the Maximum RPM for the 50
3 is 6800.
My plane has a Rotax 503 DCDI with the oil injection. It has a =93B=94 bo
x with a 3 blade IVO propeller.
Could someone with a similar setup tell me what the operating limits are?
If you bought the plane already flying=2C the operating limits should have
been specified by the original builder in the original operating limitation
s.
-Dana
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Okay, here it is. Dancing yarn and more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG796iiymYw
Rick Girard
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