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0. 12:23 AM - Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:20 AM - Re: Tuft video (Richard Girard)
2. 05:19 AM - Re: New videos on YouTube ! (Thom Riddle)
3. 09:15 AM - Re: New videos on YouTube ! (ces308)
4. 01:17 PM - Re: New videos on YouTube ! (cristalclear13)
5. 06:16 PM - another grass strip takeoff (cristalclear13)
6. 07:53 PM - Re: another grass strip takeoff (Larry Cottrell)
7. 08:06 PM - Re: another grass strip takeoff (ces308)
8. 08:17 PM - Re: Tuft video (Richard Pike)
9. 08:53 PM - gravity feed, was Re: Engine quits... (Richard Pike)
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Actually, you guys are right. The BD-4 guys have been using a vane at the
corners of the windshield to steer the flow for years. I thought I'd just
lay up some fiberglass over a piece of large PVC pipe and then cut them out.
The covering on Zulu Delta's pod is junk anyway so a couple of holes for
standoffs and a little RTV to seal them back up and we're there. I'm also
trimming back all the doors and windows to try and kill those little
turbulence makers, too. The wind is blowing so hard here I don't want to fly
anyway, might as well build something.
Rick
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Larry Cottrell <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>wrote:
> I have considered those myself, but haven't gotten around to it. Why not
> make a couple out of lexan using wire ties to secure them to the legs and
> tubes on the side. Shouldn't be too hard to do. I know that I get more
> speed if I leave the plastic stuff ( from Kolb's full enclosure) off the
> back of the cage. Since you are experimenting Rick-????
> Larry C
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* robert bean <slyck@frontiernet.net>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, November 06, 2009 7:33 PM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Tuft video
>
> Rick, I think what John was referring to would be (or at least what I would
> imagine) a slat located vertically just
> aft of the door opening to attempt to reconnect the flow. Similar to those
> gadgets they used to put on the top end
> of station wagons to sweep the dirt off the back window. Maybe there are
> some sitting in a junkyard somewhere.
> Couldn't be a lot uglier than VGs.
> BB
>
> On 6, Nov 2009, at 4:45 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> John, I would point out to you that WE did not "KNOW" anything of a sort.
> YOU may have had an intuitive insight into the flow around the pod given you
> by the raindrop observation, but that is all.
> You'll notice there are no tufts on the windows of my plane in the area
> where you observed the rain drops, they are on the opaque covered panels. I
> could not see those areas in flight. I've seen your airplane and it's
> covered similarly to mine. I seriously doubt you can see through those
> panels any better than me.
> I, too, had an intuitive idea that the area aft of the doors and aft of the
> panel joint is an area of stagnated flow. I would not have guessed the area
> witnessed by that one lone tuft pointing forward. I would not have guessed
> that as I went faster the air would flow up the side rather than back toward
> the prop.
> Will it do that when I put the windows back on? I don't know.
> Will the flow be affected by the prop extension I put on? I don't know.
> Will a pressure recovery fairing going all the way up the aft end of the
> pod weldment change the flow on the sides? I don't know.
> Too many unknowns for me. I intend to find out.
>
> Rick Girard
> do not archive
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:17 PM, <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Rick G/Gang:
>>
>> We've known for some time I have dead air at the top center of the
>> windshield where it joins the center section. Also behind the trailing edge
>> of both doors.
>>
>> Was able to ascertain this info without tufting, but flew in rain. When
>> the rain drops stay put, there's not much air moving over them.
>>
>> A fix for the windshield was a fiberglass faring. TNK laid one up on my
>> mkIII, finished it up, and shipped it to me. Unfortunately, the fabricator
>> got his cardinal directions 180 degrees out and built up the inside rather
>> than the outside of the faring. I flew that trip to Alaska without it.
>>
>> If we ever get around to it, we will use a faring like the old OH-58 used
>> at the aft end of the fuselage where it started an abrupt taper to the
>> tailboom, much like the mkIII. It was a band of sheet metal about two or
>> three inches wide, stood off the fuselage a couple inches, and ran from the
>> top to the bottom of the fuselage. One of these days, maybe we'll get to
>> that project.
>>
>> john h
>> mkIII
>> Edwards AFB, CA - A neat place for an aviation buff to hang out.
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>>
>> Okay, here it is. Dancing yarn and more.
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG796iiymYw
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>> Rick Girard
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Subject: | Re: New videos on YouTube ! |
Chris,
The third video showing your house location got me to wondering. Do you have access
to the open water via the creek without having to go under a low bridge?
If so, have you ever considered floats for you Xtra?
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
The world is round; it has no point.
- Adrienne E. Gusoff
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Subject: | Re: New videos on YouTube ! |
Thom,
That's the plan....I am planning on putting Full Lotus floats on her...and I 'm
planning on landing right at the house...should be plenty of room... I need to
sell my 172 first though...
chris ambrose
m3x/jab
N327CS
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Subject: | Re: New videos on YouTube ! |
Enjoyed the videos Chris!
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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Subject: | another grass strip takeoff |
Same field as my last post, but recently mowed.
The bumpy ground tries to launch me before I am up to speed but I just bump along
until I have enough speed and then take off. What fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDtQHQ0ZJrw
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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Subject: | Re: another grass strip takeoff |
Its a good looking and a good sounding plane. Very nice.
Larry C
----- Original Message -----
From: cristalclear13
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2009 7:16 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: another grass strip takeoff
<cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
Same field as my last post, but recently mowed.
The bumpy ground tries to launch me before I am up to speed but I just
bump along until I have enough speed and then take off. What fun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDtQHQ0ZJrw
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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11/07/09 19:39:00
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Subject: | Re: another grass strip takeoff |
Nice job Cristal ! Keep them coming !!
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab 78+ hrs
N327CS
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Thanks for the tuft video, very informative. Here's a question: I wonder if the
shock wave that apparently precedes the prop may have some effect on what the
tufts are doing. If memory serves me right you have a 582 so the prop on the
side of the fuselage that the camera is filming would be moving from the bottom
around towards the wing underside. Standing at the tail, a clockwise rotation.
I suppose very unlikely up towards the doors, but perhaps it could affect at least
some of the tufting?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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Subject: | Re: gravity feed, was Re: Engine quits... |
[quote="rickofudall"]Cool looking rice rocket fairing.
Rick Girard
Rick - Dude - you need to get with it. That was a crotch rocket fairing. I know,
my nephew has one on his Suzuki crotch rocket.
This is a rice rocket. Especially when the Good Lookin' Old Poop is driving it...
Took these yesterday evening, Sweet Thing kidnapped me and took me to the most
incredible Bed & Breakfast you can imagine. The owner's husband left her, she
is doing the B&B thing to try and pay the bills, but is charging almost nothing,
so I told her I would help spread the word, here is her website for this place.
http://peaceofheaventn.weebly.com/
Forgive the non-Kolb related, it looked like a slow evening...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (42oldPoops)
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