---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/29/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:28 AM - Fwed battery location (Steve Simmons) 2. 08:54 AM - de gaussing (pj.ladd) 3. 09:04 AM - Re: FWD Battery Location (pj.ladd) 4. 09:04 AM - Re: cowl (Ron @ KFHU) 5. 09:10 AM - Re: Re: Non-Kolb Beech Nut makes gear up landing (Ron @ KFHU) 6. 09:51 AM - Re: FWD Battery Location (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 7. 02:14 PM - Re: Fwed battery location (Steve Simmons) 8. 02:54 PM - Re: Fwed battery location (Steve Simmons) 9. 03:49 PM - Re: Fwed battery location (robert bean) 10. 08:57 PM - Re: de gaussing (Richard Pike) 11. 10:12 PM - Re: Re: de gaussing () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:01 AM PST US From: "Steve Simmons" Subject: Kolb-List: Fwed battery location I have attached a .xls file for the weight and balance for my Kolb Mark III, if I put the battery in the aft location it go's so fare aft I don't think I would like to fly it. The problem comes in because of the weight of my Verner 1400 engine. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:29 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: de gaussing Hi, regarding the de gaussing posts of the last couple of weeks. By coincidence, over Christmas, I was reading a book by a pilot in our Fleet Air Arm. Having finished off the war in Europe the Royal Navy were sent to help the Americans wrap up the Pacific. Consequently Victorious, Formidable, Indomitable, Indefatigable, and Illustrious, all carriers, joined the Pacific Fleet and were to carry out a solo operation against Truk. This pilot was just ducking under the wing of an aircraft as it was capulted off when its wooden prop hit the deck, split into pieces and one took nearly all of one leg off. Two years later, in 1947 he was still an outpatient at hospital and had been fitted with an iron caliper.In `48 he was learning to fly again in an Airspeed Oxford, a twin engined trainer, the only plane he could get into with his game leg. To fly he cocked his right leg, with caliper, up on the instrument panel and operated the rudder pedals with his left foot. After getting lost on a couple of simple cross country flights it dawned on him the the caliper was upsetting the compass. Quote. " While I lay on a bed the caliper was taken away and put in a magnetic field. After it had been de-gaussed, all was well and I had no further trouble" A gutsy guy In the Service from the outbreak of war. Involved in Dunkirk, battle of the Med. Taranto raid, Greek campaign, Malta. crashed on a top secret mission trying to land a couple of spies in North Africa. Due to faulty intel. he landed on a salt pan and went through the crust. P o W of the Vichy French (who were supposed to be neutral)but the prisoners were treated terribly with little food or water, thousands of PoW`a together in a camp designed for a couple of hundred in the middle of the Sahara. Ended as Commander with DSO, DSC. Very good read if anyone is interested. Cheers and Happy New Year to all as I am closing down until Jan 5th 2010 Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:12 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FWD Battery Location vinyl bag that would hold a 40 lb bag of play sand>> Jeepers! If you really need that much ballast i would suspect that something is seriously out of kilter. I have the battery just behind the passenger seat and about 4lbs of lead in the nose. Lateral inbalance caused by flying without a passenger is taken care of by the Hauk bungee design. Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:04:12 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: cowl Hey Craig you got fancier stuff in your Kolb than I have in my Sierra, (the new GPS 696 is a loaner). LOL. Ron @ Sierra Vista. =========================== ---- "Nelson wrote: ============ <> Uncle Craig/Gang: Get that MKIII put back together and flying. MV will be here before you know it, 5 months on my Alabama calendar. John Good to hear from you Its going together John... I've messed around 4 8 years and it is time to fly. I know I don't need an artificial horizon in Arizona or any where I would fly ..but it just looked aircrafty. Had to have it. My exhaust is the titan one you had before. mine has a different muffler. Ya I did have trouble with it... it was welded up by a motor cycle guy rather than the welder that did my tank, he was too busy to weld the muffler and I should have waited for him... the welds the motor cycle guy did not penetrate and he ground most of what was, off... the back of the muffler and exhaust tube went through the prop slamming it into the flap. ... I wonder if the new titan one would fit under my cowl...I admire Rick for his project those things get a guy going... I had fun doing all the stuff I did to my plane, the reason I did it was because I can..... Not really to improve the design....I did it because I like the way it looks. The kolb design to me is the spirit of true flight. Great visibility!!!closest thing to a helicopter without the maintenance or disk, slow enough to have fun, fast enough to go across the country and almost vertical takeoff and landing...but john I have to tell ya, you and lots of other guys are doing it...FLYING AND ENJOYING Your Kolbs .....it's time to stop the tinkering and fly!! I like your KISS rule I could have been flying...let's see what we can do at MV... I'll race you for breakfast....if I don't fly to MV this year I'm not going Uncle craig 15 hrs flying 2,000,000 hrs fussing, tinkering and building--enough is enough -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:10:58 AM PST US From: "Ron @ KFHU" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Non-Kolb Beech Nut makes gear up landing Sounded like a beach nut to me, which is something to be envied out from the desert, but not in an airplane. Ron @ KFHU do not archive ================================ ---- Thom Riddle wrote: ============ Perhaps there was a big wad of chewing gum in the wheel well keeping the gear from coming down. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 There is no pleasure in having nothing to do; the fun is in having lots to do and not doing it. - Mary Wilson Little Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=277394#277394 -- kugelair.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:51:30 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FWD Battery Location I have my battery installed in the nose of my MKIIIC. My VW required by the numbers that the battery be moved. My battery is a light 12AH lawn mower battery. When I installed my first redrive VW engine it was mounted so high that I had seven inches of clearance between the 72 inch prop and the boom tube. My first 150 lb. passenger required me to hold full up elevator to climb with power (not good). For a while I added a steel weight to the tail wheel strut. Later on a cross country I found that the aft CG caused by the tail weight caused the plane to be almost uncontrollable in heavy turbulence. Removing the weight made a significant improvement. I have since lowered the engine but haven't flown with more than a 160 lb. passenger yet. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: pj.ladd To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 12:01 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: FWD Battery Location vinyl bag that would hold a 40 lb bag of play sand>> Jeepers! If you really need that much ballast i would suspect that something is seriously out of kilter. I have the battery just behind the passenger seat and about 4lbs of lead in the nose. Lateral inbalance caused by flying without a passenger is taken care of by the Hauk bungee design. Pat ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:35 PM PST US From: "Steve Simmons" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fwed battery location I have attached a .xls file for the weight and balance for my Kolb Mark III, if I put the battery in the aft location it go's so fare aft I don't think I would like to fly it. The problem comes in because of the weight of my Verner 1400 engine. From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Simmons Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Fwed battery location I have attached a .xls file for the weight and balance for my Kolb Mark III, if I put the battery in the aft location it go's so fare aft I don't think I would like to fly it. The problem comes in because of the weight of my Verner 1400 engine. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:54:51 PM PST US From: "Steve Simmons" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Fwed battery location I have attached a .xls file for the weight and balance for my Kolb Mark III, if I put the battery in the aft location it go's so fare aft I don't think I would like to fly it. The problem comes in because of the weight of my Verner 1400 engine. From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Simmons Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:11 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Fwed battery location I have attached a .xls file for the weight and balance for my Kolb Mark III, if I put the battery in the aft location it go's so fare aft I don't think I would like to fly it. The problem comes in because of the weight of my Verner 1400 engine. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:50 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fwed battery location we have the message steve. On 29, Dec 2009, at 5:06 PM, Steve Simmons wrote: > I have attached a .xls file for the weight and balance for my Kolb Mark III, if I put the battery in the aft location it go's so fare aft I don't think I would like to fly it. The problem comes in because of the weight of my Verner 1400 engine. > > > > > From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Simmons > Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 10:11 AM > To: Kolb List > Subject: Kolb-List: Fwed battery location > > I have attached a .xls file for the weight and balance for my Kolb Mark III, if I put the battery in the aft location it go=92s so fare aft I don=92t think I would like to fly it. The problem comes in because of the weight of my Verner 1400 engine. > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:57:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: de gaussing From: "Richard Pike" I remember reading a book about Douglas Bader (Dogs Body) when I was back in middle school. Wasn't him, by any chance? (Been too long, forgot the details) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldpoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279184#279184 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:12:06 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: de gaussing No ,Ii don't think so , Douglas Bader lost both legs in a flying incident doing something he had been told not to in a bulldog I think . He over come that and carried on to fly spitfires and hurricanes, he was POW and continued to be a PITA for his captors , ended up in colditz. As fare as I know he never served on a carrier or in the Pacific conflict Sorry some may not see this as kolb related but these are the aviators that gave us all the inspiration to test flight Downonder Kolb MK111c Regards to all Have a happy and prosperous new year and may the weather gods be kind to you all ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:55 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: de gaussing > > I remember reading a book about Douglas Bader (Dogs Body) when I was back > in middle school. Wasn't him, by any chance? (Been too long, forgot the > details) > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldpoops) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=279184#279184 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.