---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 01/07/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:25 AM - Re: Trailer challenge (pj.ladd) 2. 03:01 AM - Re: Trailer challenge (pj.ladd) 3. 03:11 AM - Re: Trailer challenge (pj.ladd) 4. 03:49 AM - cold (Ted Cowan) 5. 05:49 AM - Apology (pj.ladd) 6. 05:54 AM - Re: cold (robert bean) 7. 06:09 AM - Re: Good winter gloves (Thom Riddle) 8. 06:24 AM - Re: cold (russ kinne) 9. 08:49 AM - FSII covering continued (Richard Pike) 10. 09:31 AM - Re: FSII Covering continued (william sullivan) 11. 10:14 AM - Re: FSII covering continued (Richard Pike) 12. 10:31 AM - Re: FSII covering continued (william sullivan) 13. 11:08 AM - Kolb Mark III for sale (grantr) 14. 12:01 PM - Re: FSII covering continued (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:13 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailer challenge What control tower?>> Hi Dana, Of course you are right. I tend to forget the basic difference between the USA and the UK which is SIZE. I think it would be difficult in the UK to find even a farm strip which is not overlooked by someone . A change in the pattern of use would probably be remarked on and noted. Also we have no `flying communities` where you could taxi from your house to the peri track. Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:01:33 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailer challenge Not to prolong things>> Hi Russ, I am quite sure there are ramifications of which I am not aware. I was really just noting that just because` authority` wants something done it is not automatically bad. I think the American `stand on your own feet` philosophy is wholly admirable and the idea that `guv`ment interference` should be treated with suspicion is great. The trouble is that at the other end of the spectrum this means that a National Health Bill, which means that you don`t have to sell your house before you can go into hospital, and which most of the rest of the world accept as a basic tenet of a civilized country is looked on as rank Communism in the USA. Never mind, its the differences between countries and attitudes which help to make this life interesting. Off next week to Bangkok, and Cambodia, down the Mekong and then Australia and then a month on the beach in New Zealand. That ought to turn up a few different attitudes to life. Money for one with the Cambodian Riel at 6,618 to the =A3. Finished my anti cancer course of treatment last week so there is nothing to be done before I get back to the UK in March. Then there will be a biopsy and, depending on the result, I shall have some more treatment or not. All without paying a penny. The plane is laid up, drained, plugs out and `winterised`, wheels off the ground and everything covered up. All ready to start flying again in April, I hope. Wx has been bad in the UK for the last 3 weeks. Scotland and the north have had snow and temps below freezing. Not much by the standards of some of your States but because we don`t get it very often we do not have the infrastructure of machines standing by to deal with it. We have been lucky locally. About 8 inches of snow a couple of nights ago but today is cold and bright sun. Everything looks like a picture. Very icy, last night temps down to 10 dgrees C below.. Wendy has bought a small `netbook` portable and various `dongles` which I hope will mean we can stay in touch with the list while we are away. All the best Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:11:40 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailer challenge Stuff like: "the pilot took off without clearance" . >> Hi Robert, Yea! Shock, horror! No flight plan? No radio? This must be stopped! The trouble is that the ignorant, particularly the press, is not interested in improving their knowledge. Many years ago when I was Secretary of my gliding club I got fed up with every away landing being reported as a crash. I contacted the editors of all our local papers and told them that if they wanted the pukka gen on anything happening just give me a ring and I would give them an update. None of them ever did. It is just too easy to run a headline about `Crashed glider" than to check on the facts. People! Cheers Pat ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:49:51 AM PST US From: "Ted Cowan" Subject: Kolb-List: cold If your body is cold for winter flying (actually, flying all the way to Miama is cold) I have a great solution. Dont wear one of those overblown puffed up snow mobile suits. I have what I think they call a helo artic suit. It is designed exactly as a normal flight suit only it is packed with some special ingrediant that keeps you warm no matter what. It is think, maybe 1/4 inch thick and zippers all over it. Wind does not go through it. Warm stays in. I used it when I had a Kobra (almost a quicksilver) rag and tube plane. Flew down to 32 degress or more and NEVER got cold. Hands are something else but there are lots of skiiing mits to fix that. If you want pics, let me know. I stand about 5'7" and it used to fit good until I got paunchy. I would say for someone up to 170 lbs or so. The first hundred bucks takes it and I will ship it for free. Dont like it just hanging in my closet. Let it get out there and fly again. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot 912ul. (yes, I still have my rum rum) ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:01 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: Apology General apology to the list. Mistakenly I sent to the entire list what was supposed to be a personal post to Russ.. Grovelling apology. Pat ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:54:52 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: cold From: robert bean Ted, diverging slightly from the string, re: the rum-rum. I also had a similar effect which I have partially blamed on a personal hearing defect. I have a blocked right eustachian tube which makes background noise pulse in time with my heartbeat. The sound became detectable long before the blockage. I do intend to eventually see a doc about it. BB On 7, Jan 2010, at 6:49 AM, Ted Cowan wrote: > > If your body is cold for winter flying (actually, flying all the way to Miama is cold) I have a great solution. Dont wear one of those overblown puffed up snow mobile suits. I have what I think they call a helo artic suit. It is designed exactly as a normal flight suit only it is packed with some special ingrediant that keeps you warm no matter what. It is think, maybe 1/4 inch thick and zippers all over it. Wind does not go through it. Warm stays in. I used it when I had a Kobra (almost a quicksilver) rag and tube plane. Flew down to 32 degress or more and NEVER got cold. Hands are something else but there are lots of skiiing mits to fix that. If you want pics, let me know. I stand about 5'7" and it used to fit good until I got paunchy. I would say for someone up to 170 lbs or so. The first hundred bucks takes it and I will ship it for free. Dont like it just hanging in my closet. Let it get out there and fly again. Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot 912ul. (yes, I still have my rum rum) > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:01 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Good winter gloves From: "Thom Riddle" Richard, Contrary to the appearance of my overweight body, I have very skinny hands and fingers which are super sensitive to both heat and cold; same for my feet and toes. In any case, for hands and fingers the best no hassle solution I've found is to wear knit glove liners when it is cold and then put good gloves over them when it gets really cold. I also have very good pair of mittens but they are not as good as knit glove liners plus good gloves. My mittens have internal finger holes in them which helps a bit. However, I once tried combining the knit glove liners with the mittens. Bad idea. When removing the mittens the finger hole lining in the mittens came out stuck to the knit liners and I had a hard time getting them back in side where they belonged. Glove liners plus mittens without the finger holes would probably work too but liners inside gloves gives you more dexterity. When working in a cold shop/hangar if I don't want the noise of a big torpedo heater, then I use the washable knit gloves and a little milk-house heater for warming my hands occasionally, when doing work that requires the better dexterity. Thom in Buffalo Balmy 25F this morning -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 I have reached an age when, if someone tells me to wear socks, I don't have to. - Albert Einstein Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280490#280490 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:32 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: cold "Ted Cowan, Alabama, Slingshot 912ul. (yes, I still have my rum rum)" Ted -- IMHO the rum-rum that comes in bottles is the best kind. Russ do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:49:38 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: FSII covering continued From: "Richard Pike" Since some of the Kolbers asked for me to post pictures of the ongoing repair job, here is the fuselage covering in it's almost finished condition. Something I learned last night is how to get rid of those annoying little brown bumps of sharp or prickly glue that form along the tubes after you work the fabric down smooth with the hot iron. Just go over them quickly with the brush full of MEK, just enough to wet the surface, and then rub them with your fingers. They either smooth down or rub off. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280516#280516 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/plateinside_157.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/side2_162.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/side1_484.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/plateinside2_111.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:03 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FSII Covering continued - Keep the reports coming, Richard.- You are progressing nicely.- Wha t weight fabric are you using on the cage? - ------------------------- -------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- -------------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- -------------------- FS 447- Can't do Stits on the cage until spring. - - ------------------------- -------------------- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:42 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FSII covering continued From: "Richard Pike" Using 2.7 oz. Stits on the fuselage because we had some left over, and because the fuselage gets the most abuse. Used double thickness on the floor where you might put your feet and weight getting in or out. Using the last of the Poly-Tak to attach it. The rest of the airplane will be covered with uncertified 1.6 oz. dacron, attached with Certified Coatings Sure Seam cement and then the tapes and any doping overlaps etc. will be with Certified Coatings nitrate dope. Then it all gets painted with latex. We are going for minimum weight and minimum expense this time around. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280528#280528 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:31:24 AM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FSII covering continued - Richard- Is the FSII experimental class?- I wasn't aware that you cou ld put 2 full layers on a wear surface.- How much weight difference betwe en that and an aluminum floor plate?- By the way, how is Ed doing? - ------------------------- ------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------- Windsor Locks, Ct .. ------------------------- ------------------- FS 447 ------------------------- ------------------- 36 degrees, beaut iful day - - ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:47 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Kolb Mark III for sale From: "grantr" I have put my Mark III up for sale on Barnstormers. Plane has about 130 hours on it, Rotax 503 DCDI, C gearbox, 64" 3 blade IVO prop and basic instruments. Climbs 650 FPM solo and burns 3.5 GPH.Cruisee 60 mph. Also has a enclosed trailer to go with. Asking $15,250 I will sell it without the trailer and or engine if someone is interested in the airframe. If anyone is interested Email me for more details, videos and pictures. grant_richardson25@yahoo.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280538#280538 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:01:03 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: FSII covering continued From: "Richard Pike" Ed is pretty much back to normal, his ankle is still swollen, but he is getting around ok. Yes, the FSII is Experimental. In it's first life it weighed 488 with the 582 and all it's other assorted bells and whistles. (transponder, full day and night vfr, bulletproof lexan floorboards, funky gap seal, etc) This time around, we are hoping for MUCH less. It flew great before, can't imagine what it would do if it was much lighter, but we plan to find out. What I did to double layer the floor was just to apply one layer of fabric and shrink it, iron the edges smooth around the tubes and then put a couple coats of glue over the edges. Then laid another piece of fabric over the first, glued the edges just like any other, just like when you lay the overlap from the upper surface fabric of the wing over the fabric of the lower surface of the wing. Then iron it and shrink it tight, and then lay the dope into it. The dope will bond the two fabric pieces together and give you a flexible but very strong surface. Then when you lay some floor carpet over it, you're good. Not sure what it weighs, but I would guess less than aluminum, it's just two layers of fabric and some dope. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280554#280554 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.