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1. 07:45 AM - Re: toe-in (zeprep251@aol.com)
2. 08:53 AM - Re: toe-in (frank.goodnight)
3. 08:57 AM - lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (grantr)
4. 09:44 AM - Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (John Hauck)
5. 09:44 AM - Re: toe-in (John Hauck)
6. 09:49 AM - Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (kirkds)
7. 09:54 AM - Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (Mike Welch)
8. 02:45 PM - MV date decided yet? (TheWanderingWench)
9. 04:51 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (John Hauck)
10. 06:56 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (Larry Cottrell)
11. 07:20 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (John Hauck)
12. 08:56 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (Larry Cottrell)
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Frank,
If you pulled your plane into a trailer often,a little toe-in becomes a
lot of toe out when going backward,and it gets hard to pull like that.So
I tried for 0 when setting it up and it still handled fine.
G.Aman
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From: frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 10:18 am
Subject: Kolb-List: toe-in
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Hi all
Too cold here in the valley to do much of anything except set in the house
and whine about the weather.--no heat in the shop-.
I put a 3/4 windshield on my firestar but still don't enjoy flying when it
's below 50F.
Started mounting the steel gear legs and large wheels and tires --a la La
rry Cotrell-- , I've had them for about a year , too lazy to put them on.
It is a fairly large project what with adapting the A/C wheels to the litt
le matco brakes etc. also mounting a maule tail wheel.
Bent and straightened the aluminium ones often enough that it's time to
change.
My question is-- Anyone know what is a good toe in for a firestar 2 ?
Frank Goodnight
cold in Brownsville ,TX
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Thanks to every one that answered my toe-in question . Looks like zero
it is .
Frank Goodnight
do not archive
On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:39 AM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote:
> Frank,
> If you pulled your plane into a trailer often,a little toe-in
> becomes a lot of toe out when going backward,and it gets hard to
> pull like that.So I tried for 0 when setting it up and it still
> handled fine.
> G.Aman
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> From: frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 10:18 am
> Subject: Kolb-List: toe-in
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> Hi all
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> Too cold here in the valley to do much of anything except set in the
> house and whine about the weather.--no heat in the shop-.
>
> I put a 3/4 windshield on my firestar but still don't enjoy flying
> when it's below 50F.
>
> Started mounting the steel gear legs and large wheels and tires --a
> la Larry Cotrell-- , I've had them for about a year , too lazy to
> put them on.
>
> It is a fairly large project what with adapting the A/C wheels to
> the little matco brakes etc. also mounting a maule tail wheel.
>
>
> Bent and straightened the aluminium ones often enough that it's
> time to change.
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> My question is-- Anyone know what is a good toe in for a firestar 2 ?
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> Frank Goodnight
> cold in Brownsville ,TX
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Subject: | lawsuit against Kolb owner widow |
http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_166175.asp
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow |
Subject: Kolb-List: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow
Looks like somebody is getting on the band wagon to take advantage of the
situation.
Scum bags.
john h
MKIII
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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Not trying to be argumentative, but want to toss out one more thing
about main gear alignment on Kolbs.
Main gear legs on a Kolb do not have much torsional rigidity. They
twist very easily, especially when braking. Under braking, if the main
gear are set straight, no toe-in or toe-out, the legs will twist
allowing the main gear to go toe-out, placing more spreading load on the
gear legs. On grass, this doesn't affect handling, but on pavement, it
is another story.
I little tiny bit of toe-in assist the main gear legs in holding up the
aircraft, keeping them from bending more than when dealing with toe-out,
especially a FS with a heavier than average pilot and a load of gear to
boot.
My mkIII will spread the gear on pavement if I push her backwards.
Luckily, I don't have to do that very often.
If Kolbs had main gear built like the front end on my old Dodge truck,
we could go with the wheels neutral.
Not trying to change Frank's mind, but sharing what I have learned over
the years about Kolbs may prevent heart ache down the road.
john h
mkIII
----- Original Message -----
From: frank.goodnight
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: toe-in
Thanks to every one that answered my toe-in question . Looks like zero
it is .
Frank Goodnight
do not archive
On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:39 AM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote:
Frank,
If you pulled your plane into a trailer often,a little toe-in
becomes a lot of toe out when going backward,and it gets hard to pull
like that.So I tried for 0 when setting it up and it still handled fine.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 10:18 am
Subject: Kolb-List: toe-in
<frank.goodnight@att.net>
Hi all
Too cold here in the valley to do much of anything except set in the
house and whine about the weather.--no heat in the shop-.
I put a 3/4 windshield on my firestar but still don't enjoy flying
when it's below 50F.
Started mounting the steel gear legs and large wheels and tires --a
la Larry Cotrell-- , I've had them for about a year , too lazy to put
them on.
It is a fairly large project what with adapting the A/C wheels to
the little matco brakes etc. also mounting a maule tail wheel.
Bent and straightened the aluminium ones often enough that it's
time to change.
My question is-- Anyone know what is a good toe in for a firestar 2
?
Frank Goodnight
cold in Brownsville ,TX
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Subject: | Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow |
Seems the wrong brother died in the crash.
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From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:57 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow
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Subject: | lawsuit against Kolb owner widow |
Ditto=2C John.
Mike Welch
> From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow
> Date: Sat=2C 9 Jan 2010 11:41:32 -0600
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> Looks like somebody is getting on the band wagon to take advantage of the
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> Scum bags.
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> john h
> MKIII
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Subject: | MV date decided yet? |
John H -I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best for the MV
fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision been made? I'm hoping
to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is clear for which-ever weekend
is decided on. (Right now it makes no difference.)
Arty TrostMaxair DrifterSandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
"Life's a daring adventure or nothing"
Helen Keller
"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."
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Subject: | Re: MV date decided yet? |
Hi Arty/Gang:
The 2010 Unplanned/Unorgnized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley, Utah will be
held from Friday, 21 May until Sunday, 23 May 2010.
Normally, we get there sometime on Thursday. If you want to get there a
week early, that's ok too. If you want to stay late, that's ok, but
most of us will be heading out for other places, and home, on Sunday
morning. I'll be flying to the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns
Junction, Oregon, along with anybody else that wants to tag along. Last
year there were four of us that flew from MV, and joined up with three
more Kolbs at Larry and Karen Cottrell's. Needless to say, we had a
grand and exciting time. Amazing at the varied inclement weather
conditions that can be handed out by Mother Nature in the SE corner of
Oregon. On the other hand, she can also hand out some beautiful flying
days to take advantage of that part of our great country.
Glad to hear Arty is going to join us again, even though she flies one
of those other ultralights. ;-)
BTW: Everyone is welcome at our flyin, no matter what you fly or how
you get there. Remember though, some of us fly as much as 20 hours to
get there, so if we aren't ready to jump back in the air and fly circles
around MV, it is because we are getting old and lazy, and still have 50
or more hours to fly before we get back home.
I am looking forward to this year's flyin. Hope to see all of you
there.
john h
mkIII
I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best for
the MV fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision been
made? I'm hoping to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is clear
for which-ever weekend is decided on. (Right now it makes no
difference.)
Arty Trost
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Subject: | Re: MV date decided yet? |
I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also welcome at
the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and
people.
Larry Cottrell
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV date decided yet?
Hi Arty/Gang:
The 2010 Unplanned/Unorgnized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley, Utah will be
held from Friday, 21 May until Sunday, 23 May 2010.
Normally, we get there sometime on Thursday. If you want to get there
a week early, that's ok too. If you want to stay late, that's ok, but
most of us will be heading out for other places, and home, on Sunday
morning. I'll be flying to the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns
Junction, Oregon, along with anybody else that wants to tag along. Last
year there were four of us that flew from MV, and joined up with three
more Kolbs at Larry and Karen Cottrell's. Needless to say, we had a
grand and exciting time. Amazing at the varied inclement weather
conditions that can be handed out by Mother Nature in the SE corner of
Oregon. On the other hand, she can also hand out some beautiful flying
days to take advantage of that part of our great country.
Glad to hear Arty is going to join us again, even though she flies one
of those other ultralights. ;-)
BTW: Everyone is welcome at our flyin, no matter what you fly or how
you get there. Remember though, some of us fly as much as 20 hours to
get there, so if we aren't ready to jump back in the air and fly circles
around MV, it is because we are getting old and lazy, and still have 50
or more hours to fly before we get back home.
I am looking forward to this year's flyin. Hope to see all of you
there.
john h
mkIII
I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best
for the MV fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision
been made? I'm hoping to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is
clear for which-ever weekend is decided on. (Right now it makes no
difference.)
Arty Trost
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Subject: | Re: MV date decided yet? |
Will the ice be melted at the Rock House by May?
I am going to have to take an ice pick with me to Gantt International
and chip my mkIII out of the hanger if I am going to attempt aviation
tomorrow. If it stays in the 30's, I ain't gonna go.
john h
mkIII
DO NOT ATTEMPT
I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also welcome at
the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and
people.
Larry Cottrell
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Subject: | Re: MV date decided yet? |
I will guarantee that the ice will be melted and the wind no more than 6
to 10 down the runway!
Larry
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which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Hauck
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV date decided yet?
Will the ice be melted at the Rock House by May?
I am going to have to take an ice pick with me to Gantt International
and chip my mkIII out of the hanger if I am going to attempt aviation
tomorrow. If it stays in the 30's, I ain't gonna go.
john h
mkIII
DO NOT ATTEMPT
I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also welcome
at the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and
people.
Larry Cottrell
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