Kolb-List Digest Archive

Sat 01/09/10


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:45 AM - Re: toe-in (zeprep251@aol.com)
     2. 08:53 AM - Re: toe-in (frank.goodnight)
     3. 08:57 AM - lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (grantr)
     4. 09:44 AM - Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (John Hauck)
     5. 09:44 AM - Re: toe-in (John Hauck)
     6. 09:49 AM - Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (kirkds)
     7. 09:54 AM - Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow (Mike Welch)
     8. 02:45 PM - MV date decided yet? (TheWanderingWench)
     9. 04:51 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (John Hauck)
    10. 06:56 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (Larry Cottrell)
    11. 07:20 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (John Hauck)
    12. 08:56 PM - Re: MV date decided yet? (Larry Cottrell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:45:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: toe-in
    From: zeprep251@aol.com
    Frank, If you pulled your plane into a trailer often,a little toe-in becomes a lot of toe out when going backward,and it gets hard to pull like that.So I tried for 0 when setting it up and it still handled fine. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 10:18 am Subject: Kolb-List: toe-in t> Hi all Too cold here in the valley to do much of anything except set in the house and whine about the weather.--no heat in the shop-. I put a 3/4 windshield on my firestar but still don't enjoy flying when it 's below 50F. Started mounting the steel gear legs and large wheels and tires --a la La rry Cotrell-- , I've had them for about a year , too lazy to put them on. It is a fairly large project what with adapting the A/C wheels to the litt le matco brakes etc. also mounting a maule tail wheel. Bent and straightened the aluminium ones often enough that it's time to change. My question is-- Anyone know what is a good toe in for a firestar 2 ? Frank Goodnight cold in Brownsville ,TX ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============


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    Time: 08:53:49 AM PST US
    From: "frank.goodnight" <frank.goodnight@att.net>
    Subject: Re: toe-in
    Thanks to every one that answered my toe-in question . Looks like zero it is . Frank Goodnight do not archive On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:39 AM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote: > Frank, > If you pulled your plane into a trailer often,a little toe-in > becomes a lot of toe out when going backward,and it gets hard to > pull like that.So I tried for 0 when setting it up and it still > handled fine. > G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 10:18 am > Subject: Kolb-List: toe-in > > > > > Hi all > > Too cold here in the valley to do much of anything except set in the > house and whine about the weather.--no heat in the shop-. > > I put a 3/4 windshield on my firestar but still don't enjoy flying > when it's below 50F. > > Started mounting the steel gear legs and large wheels and tires --a > la Larry Cotrell-- , I've had them for about a year , too lazy to > put them on. > > It is a fairly large project what with adapting the A/C wheels to > the little matco brakes etc. also mounting a maule tail wheel. > > > Bent and straightened the aluminium ones often enough that it's > time to change. > > My question is-- Anyone know what is a good toe in for a firestar 2 ? > > Frank Goodnight > cold in Brownsville ,TX > > =================================== > rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > =================================== > ttp://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > "_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > >


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    Time: 08:57:10 AM PST US
    Subject: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow
    From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com>
    http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_166175.asp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280811#280811


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    Time: 09:44:24 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow
    Subject: Kolb-List: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow Looks like somebody is getting on the band wagon to take advantage of the situation. Scum bags. john h MKIII DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 09:44:25 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: toe-in
    Not trying to be argumentative, but want to toss out one more thing about main gear alignment on Kolbs. Main gear legs on a Kolb do not have much torsional rigidity. They twist very easily, especially when braking. Under braking, if the main gear are set straight, no toe-in or toe-out, the legs will twist allowing the main gear to go toe-out, placing more spreading load on the gear legs. On grass, this doesn't affect handling, but on pavement, it is another story. I little tiny bit of toe-in assist the main gear legs in holding up the aircraft, keeping them from bending more than when dealing with toe-out, especially a FS with a heavier than average pilot and a load of gear to boot. My mkIII will spread the gear on pavement if I push her backwards. Luckily, I don't have to do that very often. If Kolbs had main gear built like the front end on my old Dodge truck, we could go with the wheels neutral. Not trying to change Frank's mind, but sharing what I have learned over the years about Kolbs may prevent heart ache down the road. john h mkIII ----- Original Message ----- From: frank.goodnight To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: toe-in Thanks to every one that answered my toe-in question . Looks like zero it is . Frank Goodnight do not archive On Jan 9, 2010, at 9:39 AM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote: Frank, If you pulled your plane into a trailer often,a little toe-in becomes a lot of toe out when going backward,and it gets hard to pull like that.So I tried for 0 when setting it up and it still handled fine. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2010 10:18 am Subject: Kolb-List: toe-in <frank.goodnight@att.net> Hi all Too cold here in the valley to do much of anything except set in the house and whine about the weather.--no heat in the shop-. I put a 3/4 windshield on my firestar but still don't enjoy flying when it's below 50F. Started mounting the steel gear legs and large wheels and tires --a la Larry Cotrell-- , I've had them for about a year , too lazy to put them on. It is a fairly large project what with adapting the A/C wheels to the little matco brakes etc. also mounting a maule tail wheel. Bent and straightened the aluminium ones often enough that it's time to change. My question is-- Anyone know what is a good toe in for a firestar 2 ? Frank Goodnight cold in Brownsville ,TX =========== rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List =========== ttp://forums.matronics.com =========== "_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution


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    Time: 09:49:45 AM PST US
    From: "kirkds" <kirkds@dishmail.net>
    Subject: Re: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow
    Seems the wrong brother died in the crash. ----- Original Message ----- From: "grantr" <grant_richardson25@yahoo.com> Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 11:57 AM Subject: Kolb-List: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow > > http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_166175.asp > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280811#280811 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:54:34 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow
    Ditto=2C John. Mike Welch > From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow > Date: Sat=2C 9 Jan 2010 11:41:32 -0600 > > > > Subject: Kolb-List: lawsuit against Kolb owner widow > > > > > > > Looks like somebody is getting on the band wagon to take advantage of the > situation. > > Scum bags. > > john h > MKIII > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft.


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    Time: 02:45:51 PM PST US
    From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com>
    Subject: MV date decided yet?
    John H -I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best for the MV fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision been made? I'm hoping to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is clear for which-ever weekend is decided on. (Right now it makes no difference.) Arty TrostMaxair DrifterSandy, Oregon www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" Helen Keller "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death."


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    Time: 04:51:37 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: MV date decided yet?
    Hi Arty/Gang: The 2010 Unplanned/Unorgnized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley, Utah will be held from Friday, 21 May until Sunday, 23 May 2010. Normally, we get there sometime on Thursday. If you want to get there a week early, that's ok too. If you want to stay late, that's ok, but most of us will be heading out for other places, and home, on Sunday morning. I'll be flying to the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon, along with anybody else that wants to tag along. Last year there were four of us that flew from MV, and joined up with three more Kolbs at Larry and Karen Cottrell's. Needless to say, we had a grand and exciting time. Amazing at the varied inclement weather conditions that can be handed out by Mother Nature in the SE corner of Oregon. On the other hand, she can also hand out some beautiful flying days to take advantage of that part of our great country. Glad to hear Arty is going to join us again, even though she flies one of those other ultralights. ;-) BTW: Everyone is welcome at our flyin, no matter what you fly or how you get there. Remember though, some of us fly as much as 20 hours to get there, so if we aren't ready to jump back in the air and fly circles around MV, it is because we are getting old and lazy, and still have 50 or more hours to fly before we get back home. I am looking forward to this year's flyin. Hope to see all of you there. john h mkIII I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best for the MV fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision been made? I'm hoping to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is clear for which-ever weekend is decided on. (Right now it makes no difference.) Arty Trost


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    Time: 06:56:04 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: MV date decided yet?
    I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also welcome at the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and people. Larry Cottrell Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:48 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV date decided yet? Hi Arty/Gang: The 2010 Unplanned/Unorgnized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley, Utah will be held from Friday, 21 May until Sunday, 23 May 2010. Normally, we get there sometime on Thursday. If you want to get there a week early, that's ok too. If you want to stay late, that's ok, but most of us will be heading out for other places, and home, on Sunday morning. I'll be flying to the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns Junction, Oregon, along with anybody else that wants to tag along. Last year there were four of us that flew from MV, and joined up with three more Kolbs at Larry and Karen Cottrell's. Needless to say, we had a grand and exciting time. Amazing at the varied inclement weather conditions that can be handed out by Mother Nature in the SE corner of Oregon. On the other hand, she can also hand out some beautiful flying days to take advantage of that part of our great country. Glad to hear Arty is going to join us again, even though she flies one of those other ultralights. ;-) BTW: Everyone is welcome at our flyin, no matter what you fly or how you get there. Remember though, some of us fly as much as 20 hours to get there, so if we aren't ready to jump back in the air and fly circles around MV, it is because we are getting old and lazy, and still have 50 or more hours to fly before we get back home. I am looking forward to this year's flyin. Hope to see all of you there. john h mkIII I think you were asking folks which weekend would work best for the MV fly-in this year. Have you had any responses? Has a decision been made? I'm hoping to be there - and want to be sure my calendar is clear for which-ever weekend is decided on. (Right now it makes no difference.) Arty Trost ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01/09/10 19:35:00


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    Time: 07:20:49 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: MV date decided yet?
    Will the ice be melted at the Rock House by May? I am going to have to take an ice pick with me to Gantt International and chip my mkIII out of the hanger if I am going to attempt aviation tomorrow. If it stays in the 30's, I ain't gonna go. john h mkIII DO NOT ATTEMPT I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also welcome at the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and people. Larry Cottrell


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    Time: 08:56:24 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: MV date decided yet?
    I will guarantee that the ice will be melted and the wind no more than 6 to 10 down the runway! Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV date decided yet? Will the ice be melted at the Rock House by May? I am going to have to take an ice pick with me to Gantt International and chip my mkIII out of the hanger if I am going to attempt aviation tomorrow. If it stays in the 30's, I ain't gonna go. john h mkIII DO NOT ATTEMPT I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also welcome at the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and people. Larry Cottrell ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01/09/10 19:35:00




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