Kolb-List Digest Archive

Mon 01/11/10


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:53 AM - Re: MV date decided yet? (George Alexander)
     2. 05:34 AM - Re: Kolb Mark II for sale (cristalclear13)
     3. 05:40 AM - Re: Kolb Mark II for sale. (william sullivan)
     4. 06:18 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale (kolbdriver@mlsharp.com)
     5. 06:41 AM - Re: Kolb Mark II for sale (lucien)
     6. 07:42 AM - Re: MV date decided yet? (Larry Cottrell)
     7. 07:46 AM - Re: Re: MV date decided yet? (John Hauck)
     8. 07:56 AM - Re: MV date decided yet? (b young)
     9. 08:00 AM - Re: Kolb Mark II for sale (ces308)
    10. 10:36 AM - Test (Jack B. Hart)
    11. 10:46 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale (WhiskeyVictor36@AOL.COM)
    12. 10:51 AM - Re: Test (william sullivan)
    13. 11:53 AM - Re: Weather (william sullivan)
    14. 12:17 PM - Re: Re: Weather (John Hauck)
    15. 12:30 PM - Re: Re: Weather (Mike Welch)
    16. 01:09 PM - Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail (Jack B. Hart)
    17. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: Weather (Richard Girard)
    18. 02:25 PM - Re: Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail (Charlie England)
    19. 03:48 PM - Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail (Lanny Fetterman)
    20. 08:31 PM - Re: Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail (jerb)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:53:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: MV date decided yet?
    From: "George Alexander" <gtalexander@att.net>
    John Hauck wrote: > > > The 2010 Unplanned/Unorganized Kolb Flyin Monument Valley, Utah will be held from Friday, 21 May until Sunday, 23 May 2010. > > With the discussions concerning this year's Monument Valley gathering, it was a good time to update the material from past years. Take a look.... might be the incentive to go if you hadn't planned on it..... Added the miscellaneous material received from a couple of people for 2006. Not very organized (goes with the event). Also added material that John Hauck sent me for 2009. A little better organized. If any of you have material from any of the years and want it added, send it on to me. Pictures with words to go with them would be great. And for those of you that do make it this year, send the stuff and we'll put it up too. Click on http://gtalexander.home.att.net and then "Monument Valley Gatherings" -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=280993#280993


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    Time: 05:34:25 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale
    From: "cristalclear13" <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com>
    Husband said, "Are you SURE you want to sell it?" I said, "No! I'm not sure!" He said, "You won't be pregnant forever." That meant I had the green light from him to keep it (and my son had been begging me to keep it). When I went to mom's her preacher preached about being careful not to make permanent decisions for temporary situations, not sure what he was alluding to but I applied to it to my situation. So Merry Dawn was officially taken off the market yesterday. I'm keeping her! :) -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281008#281008


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    Time: 05:40:04 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale.
    - Good decision.- Bad time to sell anything. - do not archive. - ------------------------- ----------------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ----------------------- Winds or Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ----------------------- FS 44 7 ------------------------- ------------------------19 degrees, clear, sunny, no wind


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    Time: 06:18:13 AM PST US
    From: kolbdriver@mlsharp.com
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale
    Suh-Weet!!! - Then all of the Kolb List's Prayers have been answered!- - Good for you C! - Mike do not archive --- On Mon, 1/11/10, cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com> wrote: From: cristalclear13 <cristalclearwaters@gmail.com> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale .com> Husband said, "Are you SURE you want to sell it?"- I said, "No! I'm not s ure!"- He said, "You won't be pregnant forever."- That meant I had the green light from him to keep it (and my son had been begging me to keep it) .- When I went to mom's her preacher preached about being careful not to make permanent decisions for temporary situations, not sure what he was all uding to but I applied to it to my situation. So Merry Dawn was officially taken off the market yesterday.- I'm keeping her! :) -------- Cristal Waters Kolb Mark II Twinstar Rotax 503 DCSI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281008#281008 le, List Admin.


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    Time: 06:41:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale
    From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com>
    cristalclear13 wrote: > Husband said, "Are you SURE you want to sell it?" I said, "No! I'm not sure!" He said, "You won't be pregnant forever." That meant I had the green light from him to keep it (and my son had been begging me to keep it). When I went to mom's her preacher preached about being careful not to make permanent decisions for temporary situations, not sure what he was alluding to but I applied to it to my situation. > > So Merry Dawn was officially taken off the market yesterday. I'm keeping her! :) Whew.... excellent idea ;). You'll hear that right now is a particularly bad time to try to sell an aircraft, but actually, I don't think there's ever going to be a good time to sell one come around again for a very long time. If ever. Particularly for really high quality planes like the Kolb - the replacement costs are simply skyrocketing and don't show any signs of reversing and coming back down. It's cheaper to just keep it even if you have to store it for a while - that didn't used to be true but it is now. Unless it's got a problem, is a real mismatch for your mission or you have/want to give up flying, selling kind of doesn't make any sense anymore.... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281022#281022


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    Time: 07:42:11 AM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Re: MV date decided yet?
    Perhaps a bit of an explanation is due here. I had kind of expected an outburst from John Bickham. When the boys were coming in last year, they were still operating on reflexes honed in the South. The wind was up a bit, even for here. My airstrip is a bit under a lot of the airflow that generally blows from the west. I had a "wind meter" that we used on the Railroad that was supposed to determine when the wind was blowing too hard for safe welding out in the field. Having no reason to doubt that the wind gage might be less accurate than my "WAG". When they called for landing suggestions I checked the wind, and found that the meter showed 6 to 10 mph and it was blowing right down the runway. They of course will swear that it was nothing less than a "Gale force wind". In the future we used my other wind meter to check. It is a 1/4 pound rock dropped from a height of 6 feet. Larry (honest as the day is long) Cottrell Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: robert bean To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:42 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV date decided yet? sounds like either a retired car salesman or investment advisor.... BB nice here at zero and calm. Dog's out hunting squirrels at 7:00AM I'll be with him after some coffee do not archive On 9, Jan 2010, at 11:53 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote: I will guarantee that the ice will be melted and the wind no more than 6 to 10 down the runway! Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:09 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MV date decided yet? Will the ice be melted at the Rock House by May? I am going to have to take an ice pick with me to Gantt International and chip my mkIII out of the hanger if I am going to attempt aviation tomorrow. If it stays in the 30's, I ain't gonna go. john h mkIII DO NOT ATTEMPT I want to add that if anyone is so inclined, they are also welcome at the Rock House afterward. There is plenty of space for planes and people. Larry Cottrell href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - Release Date: 01/09/10 19:35:00 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 01/09/10 19:35:00


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    Time: 07:46:58 AM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: MV date decided yet?
    > With the discussions concerning this year's Monument Valley gathering, it was a good time to update the material from past years. Take a look.... might be the incentive to go if you hadn't planned on it..... > > Added the miscellaneous material received from a couple of people for > 2006. Not very organized (goes with the event). > Click on http://gtalexander.home.att.net and then "Monument Valley > Gatherings" > > -------- > George Alexander George/Gang: A special pat on the back for the time and hard work you volunteer to do to keep Kolb history. If you all have captions for the photos George has posted to his web site, please send them to him. I am the laziest of that bunch, but through George's goading, I have gotten captions for last year's MV Flyin, and will have some more soon for the 2006 MV Flyin. Those captions are as important as the photos. john h mkIII - 11F with a warming trend on the way.


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    Time: 07:56:28 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: MV date decided yet?
    Perhaps a bit of an explanation is due here. I had kind of expected an outburst from John Bickham. When the boys were coming in last year, they were still operating on reflexes honed in the South. The wind was up a bit, even for here. My airstrip is a bit under a lot of the airflow that generally blows from the west. I had a "wind meter" that we used on the Railroad that was supposed to determine when the wind was blowing too hard for safe welding out in the field. Having no reason to doubt that the wind gage might be less accurate than my "WAG". When they called for landing suggestions I checked the wind, and found that the meter showed 6 to 10 mph and it was blowing right down the runway. They of course will swear that it was nothing less than a "Gale force wind". In the future we used my other wind meter to check. It is a 1/4 pound rock dropped from a height of 6 feet. Larry (honest as the day is long) Cottrell Larry,,,,,, have you noticed how short the days have been the last few weeks???????????????????? LOL ;-) Boyd Do not archive


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    Time: 08:00:00 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale
    From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
    YAY!! I am happy for you in BOTH ways !! :D chris ambrose M3x/jABIRU N327CS 89.0 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=281031#281031


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    Time: 10:36:26 AM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Test
    test do not archive Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN


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    Time: 10:46:59 AM PST US
    From: WhiskeyVictor36@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Kolb Mark II for sale
    Good for you Cristal, Glad to hear that you will still be able to send reports and photos, of both your babies. Bill Varnes - hiding in the house, trying to stay warm. Original Kolb FireStar Audubon NJ Do Not Archive In a message dated 1/11/2010 8:34:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, cristalclearwaters@gmail.com writes: So Merry Dawn was officially taken off the market yesterday. I'm keeping her! :)


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    Time: 10:51:07 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Test
    - Came through fine, Jack. - do not archive - ------------------------- -------------------- Bill Sullivan


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    Time: 11:53:30 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: Weather
    - John- You mentioned that it was 11 degrees down there this morning.- What is the freeze temperature on your coolant?- 912 series engines are t oo expensive to have freeze. -Don't forget the other vehicles! - ------------------------- ------------------------ Bi ll Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------ Wi ndsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------- FS 447 ------------------------- ------------------------ 34 degrees and clear


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    Time: 12:17:29 PM PST US
    From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Weather
    Hope it is higher than 11F. ;-) john h mkIII John- You mentioned that it was 11 degrees down there this morning. What is the freeze temperature on your coolant? 912 series engines are too expensive to have freeze. Don't forget the other vehicles! Bill Sullivan Windsor Locks, Ct. FS 447 34 degrees and clear


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    Time: 12:30:07 PM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Weather
    John=2C You mean "lower" than 11F. You hope the coolant will freeze lower than 1 1F. We knew what you meant=2C tho Mike Welch Drained ALL coolant out of my diesel air compressor just to make sure it di dn't freeze. It got down to zero a couple days ago. From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Weather Hope it is higher than 11F. =3B-) john h mkIII John- You mentioned that it was 11 degrees down there this morning. What is the freeze temperature on your coolant? 912 series engines are too exp ensive to have freeze. Don't forget the other vehicles! Bill Sullivan Windsor Locks=2C Ct. FS 447 34 degrees and clear _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.


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    Time: 01:09:20 PM PST US
    From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net>
    Subject: Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail
    Kolbers, Evidently matronics.com uses a service provided by barracudacentral.com called "Barracuda Reputation" than rates IP addresses and offers a service that lets one block IP address that pass too much spam, etc, etc. This may seem like a good idea to block IP addresses that pass a high rate of spam etc. but it is some what insidious in that when you block an IP address you shut down all other communication. In this case I could not email the List or Matt about the problem. I Googled and called Barracuda. I asked it they directly contacted the owner of the IP address that was causing problems, and the answer was no they do not. They just compile the data and let their customers decide what to do. They are only providing information and a means for others to take action there for they can suffer no liability or responsibility. The upshot is that when Matronics and others, who use this service, they also close down the passage of legitimate information as well as the spammers etc. that pass through a problem IP address. If you get a message like the one below, call Barracuda at 408-342-5400. They will give you a case number and call you back. When they call, express some displeasure at the ham fisted approach to knocking you off your favorite list and ask them to notify the owner of the offending IP address. In a couple of hours the block will be removed. Also contact your email provider and let them know that one of their IP addresses is being blocked. This gives the provider a chance to check and clean out the server. I know the internet pipe line is under attack. Since it does not discriminate between the spam, and the legitimate user, IP address blocking is not the answer. It is much like blocking the flow of water or electricity because one person on the system did not pay their bill. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN From: MAILER-DAEMON@s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com (Mail Delivery System) Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender Auto-Submitted: auto-replied This is the mail system at host s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com. I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. For further assistance, please send mail to <postmaster> If you do so, please include this problem report. You can delete your own text from the attached returned message. The mail system <kolb-list@matronics.com>: host barracuda.matronics.com[64.81.74.21] said: 554 Service unavailable; Client host [s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com] blocked using Barracuda Reputation; http://bbl.barracudacentral.com/q.cgi?ip=69.89.182.162 (in reply to end of DATA command) Reporting-MTA: dns; s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 88C674202CD X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; jbhart@onlyinternet.net Arrival-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:23:35 -0500 (EST) Final-Recipient: rfc822; kolb-list@matronics.com Original-Recipient: rfc822;kolb-list@matronics.com Action: failed Status: 5.0.0 Remote-MTA: dns; barracuda.matronics.com Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 Service unavailable; Client host [s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com] blocked using Barracuda Reputation; http://bbl.barracudacentral.com/q.cgi?ip=69.89.182.162 Received: from y6s7o5 (unknown [69.89.182.162]) by s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 88C674202CD for <kolb-list@matronics.com>; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:23:35 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: jbhart@mail.onlyinternet.net From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: toe-in Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:18 AM 1/8/10 -0600, you wrote: > >My question is-- Anyone know what is a good toe in for a firestar 2 ? >


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    Time: 01:45:41 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Weather
    From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
    Have hope. Four days ago the temps here in SE Kansas were in the minus single digits with wind chills at almost minus 30. Today it's almost 50. Rick Girard On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote: > John, > > You mean "lower" than 11F. You hope the coolant will freeze *lower*than 11F. We knew what you meant, tho > > Mike Welch > Drained ALL coolant out of my diesel air compressor just to make sure it > didn't freeze. It got down to zero a couple days ago. > > ------------------------------ > From: jhauck@elmore.rr.com > > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Weather > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:13:56 -0600 > > > Hope it is higher than 11F. ;-) > > john h > mkIII > > > John- You mentioned that it was 11 degrees down there this morning. > What is the freeze temperature on your coolant? 912 series engines are too > expensive to have freeze. Don't forget the other vehicles! > > Bill Sullivan > Windsor Locks, Ct. > FS 447 > 34 degrees and clear > > ** > > * > > ttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-Listronics.comww.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > ------------------------------ > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerf/01/' target='_new'>Sign up now. > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 02:25:16 PM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail
    I can understand your frustration, but you might want to contact your ISP, too. They control what flows through their IP address. If Barracuda is right about the amount of spam coming from that IP address, I'd be concerned about using them for my email service. Serving abusive spammers doesn't say much for the ISP's ethics. Charlie On 1/11/2010 3:07 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote: > --> Kolb-List message posted by: "Jack B. Hart"<jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > > Kolbers, > > Evidently matronics.com uses a service provided by barracudacentral.com > called "Barracuda Reputation" than rates IP addresses and offers a service > that lets one block IP address that pass too much spam, etc, etc. This may > seem like a good idea to block IP addresses that pass a high rate of spam > etc. but it is some what insidious in that when you block an IP address you > shut down all other communication. In this case I could not email the List > or Matt about the problem. > > I Googled and called Barracuda. I asked it they directly contacted the > owner of the IP address that was causing problems, and the answer was no > they do not. They just compile the data and let their customers decide what > to do. They are only providing information and a means for others to take > action there for they can suffer no liability or responsibility. The upshot > is that when Matronics and others, who use this service, they also close > down the passage of legitimate information as well as the spammers etc. that > pass through a problem IP address. > > If you get a message like the one below, call Barracuda at 408-342-5400. > They will give you a case number and call you back. When they call, express > some displeasure at the ham fisted approach to knocking you off your > favorite list and ask them to notify the owner of the offending IP address. > In a couple of hours the block will be removed. Also contact your email > provider and let them know that one of their IP addresses is being blocked. > This gives the provider a chance to check and clean out the server. > > I know the internet pipe line is under attack. Since it does not > discriminate between the spam, and the legitimate user, IP address blocking > is not the answer. It is much like blocking the flow of water or > electricity because one person on the system did not pay their bill. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:23:37 -0500 (EST) > From: MAILER-DAEMON@s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com (Mail Delivery System) > Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender > To: jbhart@onlyinternet.net > Auto-Submitted: auto-replied > > This is the mail system at host s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com. > > I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not > be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below. > > For further assistance, please send mail to<postmaster> > > If you do so, please include this problem report. You can > delete your own text from the attached returned message. > > The mail system > > <kolb-list@matronics.com>: host barracuda.matronics.com[64.81.74.21] said: 554 > Service unavailable; Client host [s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com] blocked > using Barracuda Reputation; > http://bbl.barracudacentral.com/q.cgi?ip=69.89.182.162 (in reply to end of > DATA command) > Reporting-MTA: dns; s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com > X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 88C674202CD > X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; jbhart@onlyinternet.net > Arrival-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:23:35 -0500 (EST) > > Final-Recipient: rfc822; kolb-list@matronics.com > Original-Recipient: rfc822;kolb-list@matronics.com > Action: failed > Status: 5.0.0 > Remote-MTA: dns; barracuda.matronics.com > Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 554 Service unavailable; Client host > [s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com] blocked using Barracuda Reputation; > http://bbl.barracudacentral.com/q.cgi?ip=69.89.182.162 > Received: from y6s7o5 (unknown [69.89.182.162]) > by s6mqueue.hosts.gabmidwest.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 88C674202CD > for<kolb-list@matronics.com>; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:23:35 -0500 (EST) > Message-Id:<3.0.6.32.20100108144552.007dc7c0@mail.onlyinternet.net> > X-Sender: jbhart@mail.onlyinternet.net > Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 14:45:52 -0500 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > From: "Jack B. Hart"<jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: toe-in > In-Reply-To:<028EBFA3-247C-4587-99B0-9EEB9753BB57@att.net> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > At 09:18 >


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    Time: 03:48:58 PM PST US
    From: Lanny Fetterman <donaho1@verizon.net>
    Subject: Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail
    I was having the same problem, I sent Matt an E-mail and he fixed it for me. Lanny FSII


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    Time: 08:31:50 PM PST US
    From: jerb <ulflyer@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Kolb List Refusal to Accept E-mail
    Matt ran his weasel message a short time back, wonder if that had something to do with it. I don't recall seeing it having been run for some time. It is a operation to detect bogus email addresses spammer have used to subscribe to his mail list so they can post spam messages - because the weasel message bounces back if it is a bogus address it deletes that subscribed address from the list. It tells you not to replay back, if you did you may have had your address automatically deleted. jerb At 03:47 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote: > >I was having the same problem, I sent Matt an E-mail and he fixed it >for me. Lanny FSII > >




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