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1. 03:49 AM - Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube (Ralph B)
2. 03:52 AM - Re: Fuel system layout (Dana Hague)
3. 05:32 AM - Re: Fuel system layout (albertakolbmk3)
4. 05:37 AM - Re: Best way to cut lexan (albertakolbmk3)
5. 06:01 AM - Re: Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube (John Hauck)
6. 06:07 AM - Re: Fuel system layout (John Hauck)
7. 08:13 AM - Re: Fuel system layout (frank.goodnight)
8. 08:33 AM - Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube (David Kulp)
9. 08:33 AM - Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube (David Kulp)
10. 11:32 AM - Re: Best way to cut lexan (b young)
11. 05:34 PM - Re: Fuel system layout (Ellery Batchelder Jr)
12. 07:51 PM - Re: Fuel system layout (albertakolbmk3)
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube |
John, you sure had a handful with those wind conditions in a Firefly!
You handled it well ...
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system layout |
At 09:11 PM 1/20/2010, John Hauck wrote:
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>The site gauge is the most accurate/reliable/no maintenance sytem for
>monitoring fuel level.
I will be using a sight gauge for the new aluminum tank I'm putting in my
UltraStar. Something I found on another list: If you use 5/16" instead of
14" ID tubing for the sight gauge, you can drop a "Piper fuel ball" into
the tube. The floating red ball makes the fuel level a lot easier to see
(the FAA requires the balls in type certificated planes with sight
gauges). Univair seems to be the only supplier:
<http://univairparts.com/shopping/product_info.php?products_id=10373>
-Dana
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Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system layout |
Dana,
I Like the ball idea. The reason I'm putting the sending units in is I find it
very hard to read the fuel level in the tube. The ball would definitely help but
only as a backup for me. I like to see everything on the panel and not have
to crank my head around like a chicken to see my fuel level.
Tony
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Tony B.
Kolb MKIII C
Rotax 582
C Gearbox 3.00:1
WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
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| Subject: | Re: Best way to cut lexan |
John,
Tried the snips on an old piece and it does work quite well... I think that is
the way I'm going. No mess is always good.
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Tony B.
Kolb MKIII C
Rotax 582
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WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube |
> John, you sure had a handful with those wind conditions in a Firefly!
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> You handled it well ...
>
> Ralph
Thanks, Ralph:
Could not have done it without a good airplane.
The ultralight strip at Lakeland is notorious for difficult wind.
john h
mkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system layout |
Dana/Gang:
Good idea. Wish I had one in my sight gauge. I'll keep that in mind
when I get to the point I need to change out my tube.
john h
mkIII
If you use 5/16" instead of 14" ID tubing for the sight gauge, you
can drop a "Piper fuel ball" into the tube.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system layout |
Dana,
The fuel float ball sounds like a great idea. Why didn't I think of
that.
Frank Goodnight
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On Jan 21, 2010, at 5:38 AM, Dana Hague wrote:
> At 09:11 PM 1/20/2010, John Hauck wrote:
>>
>> The site gauge is the most accurate/reliable/no maintenance sytem
>> for monitoring fuel level.
>
> I will be using a sight gauge for the new aluminum tank I'm putting
> in my UltraStar. Something I found on another list: If you use
> 5/16" instead of 14" ID tubing for the sight gauge, you can drop a
> "Piper fuel ball" into the tube. The floating red ball makes the
> fuel level a lot easier to see (the FAA requires the balls in type
> certificated planes with sight gauges). Univair seems to be the
> only supplier:
> <http://univairparts.com/shopping/product_info.php?products_id=10373>
>
> -Dana
> --
> Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube |
Thanks, John. You not only answered my question, you gave me a good
laugh early in the day!!
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Flying the lazy river on Youtube |
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* I've seen the video before and always wondered if there > was a
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| Subject: | Best way to cut lexan |
What is the best way to cut lexan. Knife, bandsaw, jigsaw. I'm just about
ready to to start cutting my new lexan... never done it before. Any advice
would be appreciated.
Tony
I used a hand held grinder with an abrasive wheel,
Boyd Young
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system layout |
frank
I use a northstar fuel flow meter in My Kolbs this unit gives you fuel
burn rate ,remaining fuel, alrms,all you have to be is fussy calibrating
it and I think this is the best unit for my situation You can find them
in the link below
http://www.boatersmarinesupply.com/m7_view_item.html?m7:item=28843
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
Sent: Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel system layout
Hi Mike ,
I don't have a moisture trap or drain. Have never had a water problem, app
arently plastic tanks don't condense as much as metal tanks. I do keep the
tanks
full most of the time. I plan to make a sump with drain some time in the
future.[ before the trip to MV this spring] Should have already done it
, lazy & too much procrastination . When I do, I think I will
tie in a loop of fuel line and bring it forward so it can be used as a sig
ht gage. Too old and too fat to twist around and see how much fuel is left
, I use a mirror but it is not the
best sys. Don't know anything about the electric fuel gages , they may be
a better option.
FYI when I changed to the marine fuel tubing [alcohol resistant] I did
trap the fuel & checked it , clean and dry. About 30 hrs ago. same small
auto store fuel filter for about 100 hrs.
Frank Goodnight
Firestar 2
Brownsville , TX
On Jan 20, 2010, at 6:42 PM, Mike Welch wrote:
Frank,
I like the description of your fuel system. Your's sounds very similar
to mine.
One minor difference between our systems is I have a petcock at the lowe
st point of the tubing, to allow for a quick drain of moisture in the fuel
.
You didn't mention that you can accomodate for moisture drainage. Do yo
u have a way to drain off any water/crud in your fuel system?
Mike Welch
From: frank.goodnight@att.net
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Fuel system layout
Tony,
I have a 2 tank firestar 2. I have never liked the top draw system, I am
NOT trying to say there is something wrong with it , or that any one shou
ld change it, just that I
personally don't like it. At my auto store I found an all metal tire valv
e that is made similar to a through bulkhead fitting. I removed the [guts]
, made a gasket of silicone ,cut a hole
in the bottom of each tank and mounted the valves. I connected the valves
together with tubing , and with a tee between them , then connected the
tee to the facet pump [it is also is lower than
the tanks]. The fuel level in both tanks stays the same and all but about
a quart of fuel is usable, assuming I can keep the plane level. No on off
valves in the entire sys.
Once again ,taking a page from John Hs book I'm not suggesting that th
is is the way things should be done, only that this is how i did it. About
100 hrs on this sys. No problems.
Frank Goodnight
Firestar 2
Brownsville , TX
On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
Tony, I plumbed my fuel system with stock plastic tanks and top taps. Ther
e is no balance line between the tanks so I run a selector valve. I have
the fuel gauge sender in the tank behind me since I cannot see it in flig
ht. I run off the left tank first until it's down to a gallon or so, then
switch to the right tank with the gauge.
For what it's worth.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:21 PM, albertakolbmk3 <cheriebraun@xplornet.com
> wrote:
m>
Your opinions would be appreciated.
The original owner had a valve to switch between tanks I want to eliminate
that. Also, with it set up like this do I still need to use the primer bu
lb he has installed. I have remote chokes. Just trying to work on the KISS
principal.
Tony
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Tony B.
Kolb MKIII C
Rotax 582
C Gearbox 3.00:1
WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system layout |
Here's an even cheaper place to pick them up,
http://www.boatersland.com/f210.html
Tony
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Tony B.
Kolb MKIII C
Rotax 582
C Gearbox 3.00:1
WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
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