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1. 05:44 AM - Re: Pre-construction advise wanted (Richard Girard)
2. 05:44 AM - Re: Pre-construction advise wanted (lucien)
3. 06:01 AM - Re: prop tip speed and noise (Thom Riddle)
4. 07:25 AM - Re: prop tip speed and noise (lucien)
5. 07:50 AM - Re: Any one know anything about this outfit (lucien)
6. 07:52 AM - Re: Re: prop tip speed and noise (John Hauck)
7. 08:12 AM - Non Kolb (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
8. 08:15 AM - new SP rules change video - not Kolb specific (Thom Riddle)
9. 08:21 AM - Re: prop tip speed and noise (lucien)
10. 10:45 AM - Spot tracking (Larry Cottrell)
11. 11:39 AM - Re: Spot tracking (frank.goodnight)
12. 12:00 PM - Re: Spot tracking (Larry Cottrell)
13. 03:12 PM - Re: Spot tracking (John Hauck)
14. 03:12 PM - Re: Spot tracking (John Hauck)
15. 03:32 PM - pennzoil (lhaggerty)
16. 03:53 PM - Re: Any one know anything about this outfit (albertakolbmk3)
17. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: Any one know anything about this outfit (Richard Girard)
18. 04:20 PM - Howard Levy (John Hauck)
19. 04:43 PM - Re: pennzoil (Dana Hague)
20. 05:30 PM - Re: Pennzoil (Arksey@aol.com)
21. 05:51 PM - Re: Re: Pennzoil (John Hauck)
22. 06:01 PM - Re: Any one know anything about this outfit (albertakolbmk3)
23. 07:09 PM - Re: Re: Pennzoil (Richard Girard)
24. 07:38 PM - Re: pennzoil (Richard Pike)
25. 07:47 PM - Re: Re: Pennzoil (John Hauck)
26. 08:09 PM - Re: pennzoil (lucien)
27. 08:22 PM - Gulp. I'm forsaking my Drifter. (TheWanderingWench)
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| Subject: | Re: Pre-construction advise wanted |
Nick, corrosion protection, corrosion protection, corrosion protection.
Alodyne, epoxy, drain grommets at the trailing edge, and inspection ports s
o
you can see that it's all working. I can send pictures of what happens if
you don't do these things and it ain't pretty.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
> Kolbsters,
>
>
> I am just about to start piecing together my wings, and then tail. Over
> time I have picked up a few hint about possible improves to avoid weak ar
eas
> of design, or maybe I should say weak materials. I have read enough to kn
ow
> these are great plane, but does anyone have a list of thing they would
> change or materials they would upgrade if they were doing it all over
> again=85?
>
>
> Thanks as always,
>
>
> Nick Cassara
>
> Palmer, Alaska
>
> Proto type Kolbra is going to have wings again!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pre-construction advise wanted |
[quote="nickc(at)mtaonline.net"]Kolbsters,
I am just about to start piecing together my wings, and then tail. Over time I
have picked up a few hint about possible improves to avoid weak areas of design,
or maybe I should say weak materials. I have read enough to know these are
great plane, but does anyone have a list of thing they would change or materials
they would upgrade if they were doing it all over again?
Thanks as always,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
Proto type Kolbra is going to have wings again!
> [b]
As I recall, the only thing I wanted to change on my FS II was the pullies under
the seat that carry the control cables to the tail. I found the pully diameter
to be borderline too small which led to a tight angle for the cables where
they ran over the pullies. There were broken strands on the cables where they
ran over the pullies after about 15 or 20 hours as a result (the original cables
were scary, about 1/3 of the strands broken when I finally discovered the problem).
I made several sets of cables as a result, tho the last set using cable
I ordered from Travis at Kolb held up fine until I sold the plane.
If I do another FSII, I'd look at modifying this pully block to use larger pullies.
The design is ok according to AC 43.13 because of the angles involved, but
it's borderline on one of the elevator cables that goes to the (upper horn)
on the stick. I'd go with larger pulies to add more fudge-factor here.
I literally couldn't find anything else on the plane that struck me as goofy or
needing modification etc. The original builder did go with a nice swivelling
tailwheel instead of the stock Kolb one, and I've heard about the weakness of
the lower vertical stab piece, which some guys mod to strengthen it.
I love the construction of the Kolb, it's all aircraft grade stuff with no weird
problems, etc. That's why it's near the top of the list of planes I'm considering
building when/if I ever get to that spot in my flying career....
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: prop tip speed and noise |
Rick,
I've only owned one aircraft with a 582 and it was a CH701. It cruised at 72 mph
at 5800 rpm, which is where I ran it most of the time. I can imagine how quiet
your trike is at 5,000 rpm or less. That sounds like a nice set up for quiet
sight seeing flight.
Change of subject:
There are almost zero weight shift aircraft near Buffalo due to the strong winds
here. The only one I ever saw never flew. Very few powered parachutes here either
(I've seen only one fly once) for the same reason, and not many legal ULs
of any type, probably for the same reason of very light wing loading in this
perpetually windy area. This is also one of the reasons I'm glad I moved to a
short wing Slingshot last year. It handles the winds, gusts and thermals very
well. My old short wing (20') Titan Tornado 912 handled them even better with
only 93 sq ft of wing area compared to the 110 sq ft on the SS.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
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- Herbert Hoover
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| Subject: | Re: prop tip speed and noise |
Thom Riddle wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I've only owned one aircraft with a 582 and it was a CH701. It cruised at 72
mph at 5800 rpm, which is where I ran it most of the time. I can imagine how quiet
your trike is at 5,000 rpm or less. That sounds like a nice set up for quiet
sight seeing flight.
>
> Change of subject:
> There are almost zero weight shift aircraft near Buffalo due to the strong winds
here. The only one I ever saw never flew. Very few powered parachutes here
either (I've seen only one fly once) for the same reason, and not many legal
ULs of any type, probably for the same reason of very light wing loading in this
perpetually windy area. This is also one of the reasons I'm glad I moved to
a short wing Slingshot last year. It handles the winds, gusts and thermals very
well. My old short wing (20') Titan Tornado 912 handled them even better with
only 93 sq ft of wing area compared to the 110 sq ft on the SS.
I know, not Kolb related, but real quick...
We do have a group of trikers down south in the area around Albuquerque. Those
guys are brave too, I don't know how they handle the conditions here during the
spring and summer but they do when I dare not even try it. (the main guy in
the trike community there is a guy named Frank Dempsey, one of the coolest, nicest
most helpful guys I've ever met in all of aviation. The rest of the group
there are great folks too, wish they lived nearer here I'd love to fly with them).
They do all kinds of long xcountries and everything else so they could really
teach me a thing or two or three.....
I think they've gone to MV several times now.
If I don't out and out build a new plane, I've given thought to building a spare
short wing (23 1/2 footer) for my titan to extend the flying season a little
bit. My 26 footer climbs great but can be a handful in gusty winds even with
the aileron spades on it.
Anyway, sorry for the OT post, but had to comment...
Do not archive
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: Any one know anything about this outfit |
ulflyer(at)verizon.net wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> I have a friend that ask if anyone on the list may be familiar with or have any experience with Rotax Rick (http://www.barnstormers.com//contact_seller.php?to=83456&id=405635&title=TOO+MANY+503%27s+SOME+GOT+TO+GO+&return=%2FEngines%2B-%2BPiston%2C%25202-Stroke%2520Classifieds.html) - RED GOLD ROTAX ENGINES & OVERHAULS (http://www.barnstormers.com//contact_seller.php?to=83456&id=405635&title=TOO MANY 503's SOME GOT TO GO &return=%2FEngines%2B-%2BPiston%2C%25202-Stroke%2520Classifieds.html), Broker - located Naples, FL. They sell Rotax engines with red shrouds. Since this isn't directly Kolb related if you don't mind please reply to me direct. I have never heard of these folks yet they claim to sell a lot of engines.
> jerb
>
Looks fishy to me. If they're not an actual Rotax dealer, I'd be very careful to
confirm that OEM (correct) parts and Rotax procedures were used in the building
of the engines. I.e. if they start talking about "ceramic coated" pistons
and such or aftermarket parts in general, I wouldn't go near it.
Without knowing better I'd say you're better off in the long run buying new from
a known Rotax dealer. Otherwise I'd still be really careful....
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Re: prop tip speed and noise |
>
> I know, not Kolb related, but real quick...
> Anyway, sorry for the OT post, but had to comment...
> --------
> LS
> Titan II SS
Lucien/Gang:
I have a friendly suggestion on how to handle those uncontrollable urges to
write about trikes and Titans:
Try going back copy to the individual(s).
If I am out of line, let me know, please.
john hauck
mkIII
titus, alabama
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John
Agreed 100%
Seems like we are on a KOLB!! site. Once or twice fine but..... Lets keep it
Kolb related.
Do not archive "ALSO"
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: prop tip speed and noise
>
>
> >
>> I know, not Kolb related, but real quick...
>
>> Anyway, sorry for the OT post, but had to comment...
>
> > --------
>> LS
>> Titan II SS
>
>
> Lucien/Gang:
>
> I have a friendly suggestion on how to handle those uncontrollable urges
> to write about trikes and Titans:
>
> Try going back copy to the individual(s).
>
> If I am out of line, let me know, please.
>
> john hauck
> mkIII
> titus, alabama
>
>
>
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| Subject: | new SP rules change video - not Kolb specific |
FYI - Good explanation of the new rule changes for Sport Pilots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgjcrDxY6EI
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x31
About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends.
- Herbert Hoover
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| Subject: | Re: prop tip speed and noise |
John Hauck wrote:
> >
>
> > I know, not Kolb related, but real quick...
> >
> >
>
>
> > Anyway, sorry for the OT post, but had to comment...
> >
> >
>
> > --------
>
> > LS
> > Titan II SS
> >
> >
>
>
> Lucien/Gang:
>
> I have a friendly suggestion on how to handle those uncontrollable urges to
> write about trikes and Titans:
>
> Try going back copy to the individual(s).
>
> If I am out of line, let me know, please.
>
> john hauck
> mkIII
> titus, alabama
Apologies guys, will keep it on topic from now on....
LS
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Hi,
Most of you know that I fly over some of the least populated land
mass in North America. While I love it, my wife has legitimate concerns
on how to find my dead or disabled body if the worst should happen. I
got a Spot last December, but did not get the tracking feature with it.
Last summer I bought a ICOM radio for a base station so that I could
communicate with her and the range is quite good. John H was able to
talk to us from 60 miles out, but it is of course line of sight and the
higher the better. I decided this year to get the tracking feature and
just turn it on every time I fly. It sends a location every 10 minutes,
so that should narrow the search pattern quite a lot. My problem with it
before has been finding somewhere to put it that it could see the sky.
This is my solution.
While I haven't been able to take a test flight with it as of yet, the
static test appear to be just what is needed. I created a "Shared page"
that sends a notification to my friends that appear to be interested in
seeing where I am flying.
Filing a flight plan is a bit overkill when one is just flying in
circles or down to my favorite fishing hole, but notification and a
track on the home computer will do a lot to make my friends envious and
the wife a little happier.
Larry C
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| Subject: | Re: Spot tracking |
HI ALL,
My son gave me a spot for xmas, when I went on line to register and
activate it they had me return it to the factory seems like there is
some kind of trouble.They are supposed to
send me a new one as soon as they are available . Don't know when that
will be.I don't know if the older ones that have been in service for a
while have the same problems, You
might want to contact them and see. [ could easily be kolb related if
you fly a kolb like Larry C and myself ]
Frank Goodnight
firestar 2
Brownsville TX
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> Hi,
> Most of you know that I fly over some of the least populated
> land mass in North America. While I love it, my wife has legitimate
> concerns on how to find my dead or disabled body if the worst should
> happen. I got a Spot last December, but did not get the tracking
> feature with it. Last summer I bought a ICOM radio for a base
> station so that I could communicate with her and the range is quite
> good. John H was able to talk to us from 60 miles out, but it is of
> course line of sight and the higher the better. I decided this year
> to get the tracking feature and just turn it on every time I fly. It
> sends a location every 10 minutes, so that should narrow the search
> pattern quite a lot. My problem with it before has been finding
> somewhere to put it that it could see the sky. This is my solution.
> <DSCF1469.JPG>
> <DSCF1467.JPG>
> While I haven't been able to take a test flight with it as of yet,
> the static test appear to be just what is needed. I created a
> "Shared page" that sends a notification to my friends that appear to
> be interested in seeing where I am flying.
>
> Filing a flight plan is a bit overkill when one is just flying in
> circles or down to my favorite fishing hole, but notification and a
> track on the home computer will do a lot to make my friends envious
> and the wife a little happier.
> Larry C
>
>
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> history, which includes my email address.
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| Subject: | Re: Spot tracking |
This is the link that they send. You have to reduce it on the slide
scale since they don't take close ups around here.
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/gogl.jsp?glId=0siAoTNYTZD6KPbiDncNLf
KZruRqx5nUO
Mine is the old one. Not sure what you ran into Frank, but the newer one
is supposed to be a bit easier to use.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: frank.goodnight
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spot tracking
HI ALL,
My son gave me a spot for xmas, when I went on line to register and
activate it they had me return it to the factory seems like there is
some kind of trouble.They are supposed to
send me a new one as soon as they are available . Don't know when that
will be.I don't know if the older ones that have been in service for a
while have the same problems, You
might want to contact them and see. [ could easily be kolb related if
you fly a kolb like Larry C and myself ]
Frank Goodnight
firestar 2
Brownsville TX
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
Hi,
Most of you know that I fly over some of the least populated
land mass in North America. While I love it, my wife has legitimate
concerns on how to find my dead or disabled body if the worst should
happen. I got a Spot last December, but did not get the tracking feature
with it. Last summer I bought a ICOM radio for a base station so that I
could communicate with her and the range is quite good. John H was able
to talk to us from 60 miles out, but it is of course line of sight and
the higher the better. I decided this year to get the tracking feature
and just turn it on every time I fly. It sends a location every 10
minutes, so that should narrow the search pattern quite a lot. My
problem with it before has been finding somewhere to put it that it
could see the sky. This is my solution.
<DSCF1469.JPG>
<DSCF1467.JPG>
While I haven't been able to take a test flight with it as of yet,
the static test appear to be just what is needed. I created a "Shared
page" that sends a notification to my friends that appear to be
interested in seeing where I am flying.
Filing a flight plan is a bit overkill when one is just flying in
circles or down to my favorite fishing hole, but notification and a
track on the home computer will do a lot to make my friends envious and
the wife a little happier.
Larry C
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history, which includes my email address.
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| Subject: | Re: Spot tracking |
Larry:
I got 4 hits this afternoon, every 10 minutes.
john
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Cottrell
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spot tracking
This is the link that they send. You have to reduce it on the slide
scale since they don't take close ups around here.
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/gogl.jsp?glId=0siAoTNYTZD6KPbiDncNLf
KZruRqx5nUO
Mine is the old one. Not sure what you ran into Frank, but the newer
one is supposed to be a bit easier to use.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: frank.goodnight
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Spot tracking
HI ALL,
My son gave me a spot for xmas, when I went on line to register and
activate it they had me return it to the factory seems like there is
some kind of trouble.They are supposed to
send me a new one as soon as they are available . Don't know when
that will be.I don't know if the older ones that have been in service
for a while have the same problems, You
might want to contact them and see. [ could easily be kolb related
if you fly a kolb like Larry C and myself ]
Frank Goodnight
firestar 2
Brownsville TX
On Feb 4, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
Hi,
Most of you know that I fly over some of the least populated
land mass in North America. While I love it, my wife has legitimate
concerns on how to find my dead or disabled body if the worst should
happen. I got a Spot last December, but did not get the tracking feature
with it. Last summer I bought a ICOM radio for a base station so that I
could communicate with her and the range is quite good. John H was able
to talk to us from 60 miles out, but it is of course line of sight and
the higher the better. I decided this year to get the tracking feature
and just turn it on every time I fly. It sends a location every 10
minutes, so that should narrow the search pattern quite a lot. My
problem with it before has been finding somewhere to put it that it
could see the sky. This is my solution.
<DSCF1469.JPG>
<DSCF1467.JPG>
While I haven't been able to take a test flight with it as of yet,
the static test appear to be just what is needed. I created a "Shared
page" that sends a notification to my friends that appear to be
interested in seeing where I am flying.
Filing a flight plan is a bit overkill when one is just flying in
circles or down to my favorite fishing hole, but notification and a
track on the home computer will do a lot to make my friends envious and
the wife a little happier.
Larry C
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding
history, which includes my email address.
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| Subject: | Re: Spot tracking |
Sorry guys, thought I was sending bc to Larry.
john hauck
mkIII
titus, alabama
This is the link that they send. You have to reduce it on the slide
scale since they don't take close ups around here.
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/gogl.jsp?glId=0siAoTNYTZD6KPbiDncNLf
KZruRqx5nUO
Mine is the old one. Not sure what you ran into Frank, but the newer
one is supposed to be a bit easier to use.
Larry
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I am having a hard time finding Pennzoil 16 oz bottles by the case. for
my kolb :} Pete
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| Subject: | Re: Any one know anything about this outfit |
Lucien,
What is your reasoning for staying away from aftermarket parts? Have you or someone
you know had a bad experience with them in your engine? I'm not really familiar
with aftermarket for UL engines but I know with dirt bikes I would take
an aftermarket piston and ring in a heart beat!
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Tony B.
Kolb MKIII C
Rotax 582
C Gearbox 3.00:1
WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
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| Subject: | Re: Any one know anything about this outfit |
Well, I'm not Lucien, but for starters, if you're dirt bike engine seizes
you might have to take a little hike to get back someplace for help. If your
aircraft engine seizes you might be the star of the funeral.
Yes, Rotax engines and parts are pricey but you get a 30 year trail of
engineering to make your engine reliable. After market stuff may be fine or
it might be.......
Rick Girard
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 5:53 PM, albertakolbmk3 <cheriebraun@xplornet.com>wrote:
> cheriebraun@xplornet.com>
>
> Lucien,
>
> What is your reasoning for staying away from aftermarket parts? Have you or
> someone you know had a bad experience with them in your engine? I'm not
> really familiar with aftermarket for UL engines but I know with dirt bikes I
> would take an aftermarket piston and ring in a heart beat!
>
> --------
> Tony B.
>
> Kolb MKIII C
> Rotax 582
> C Gearbox 3.00:1
> WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=284894#284894
>
>
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Folks:
Here is a short note and photo of an old friend to old and new Kolb
Aircraft, Howard Levy. I had the pleasure of flying Howard in the old
factory MKIII many times at Lakeland and Oshkosh.
http://www.eaa.org/news/2010/2010-02-04_levy.asp
In 1989, Howard came to the Flight Farm at Monetrey, NY, for their annual
flyin. He flew in Al Carpenter's two place Maxair to take air to air photos
of my Firestar, the 1988 Sun and Fun Grand Champion Ultralight, a week
before this same little airplane flew on over to Oshkosh to pick up a Gold
Lindy as the 1989 Oshkosh Grand Champion Ultralight. I flew 3,000 statute
miles on the flight to Homer Kolb's, The Flight Farm, all the New England
States, Sault Saint Marie, Michigan, and Sault Saint Marie, Canada, across
the UP of Michigan and south into Oshkosh. From Oshkosh another 1,000 miles
home to Alabama. All in front of a dual point ignition 447 single carb
Rotax, with a sectional and a mag compass, and no ground crew. ;-)
BTW: Al Carpenter was a Naval Aviator who was a POW for many years during
the Vietnam Warm.
Howard was 88 years old and never quit working. He was at Oshkosh last
year, and I bet he was getting his camera stuff ready to go to Lakeland in
two months.
john hauck
mkIII
titus, alabama
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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At 06:32 PM 2/4/2010, lhaggerty wrote:
>I am having a hard time finding Pennzoil 16 oz bottles by the case. for my
>kolb :} Pete
I don't think they make the 16oz bottles any more. Oil-store.com has cases
of 8oz bottles, but the price is almost as much as the 16oz bottles were.
-Dana
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Hi gang,
I understand that Shell has just introduced AEROSHELL OIL SPORT PLUS 2
a new 2 stroke oil which is supposed to be recommended for Rotax.
Lockwood Avaition is now selling it and tested it...I have not yet looked for
it
local but intend to. It is my understanding that Pennzoil is owned by Shell.
The following web site explains the new Shell 2- stroke oil in more
detail.
_http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/aboutshell/media_center/news_and_press
_releases/2010/aviation_012010.html_
(http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/aboutshell/media_center/news_and_press_releases/2010/aviation_012010.html)
Jim Swan
firestar ll with a 503 in Michigan
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Pennzoil |
Hi Gang:
Some of you may know my Kolb flying buddy James Tripp from Millbrook,
AL. James has flown his FSII to the Kolb Homecoming 3 or 4 times now
from Alabama, over some very gnarly mountains, happily being pushed
along with a 503 that has 270 hours total time since new. This 503 was
broken in and lubricated with two gallons of Walmart TCW3 two stroke oil
that I bought in 1992 to run through my 582 powered MKIII. Sat in my
basement until James was ready to fly his FS 3 or 4 years ago. That 503
has never had anything but Walmart TCW3 oil in it. It is flown, as it
should be, hard, not babied. Sometimes in the afternoon I can hear that
FS coming across the lake. It sure sounds good.
James is a retired AF LTC who saw my MKIII sitting alone at Wetumpka
Airport, many years ago. He did not meet me for a long time, but that
first visit, alone with my mkIII planted a seed. James said he dreamed
and researched Kolbs every day while in assigned in Korea. He came back
to the Air University at Maxwell AFB, Alabama, assigned as an instructor
there. Soon after I got a call from him. He told me who he was and how
much he wanted to look at my MKIII and possibly go flying. He was
hooked before, but after our flight he was thoroughly convinced what he
wanted to built and fly. I recommended he go ahead and get a private
ticket and register the FS homebuilt/experimental, which he did. He did
a great job of building the FS and is nearing completion of his Kolb
MKIII with Jim and John Hauck modifications. He is building it right
the first time.
You can get a good buy on two stroke oil at Walmarts. ;-) I think
pilot expertise has more to do with two stroke reliability than burning
expensive, exotic oil. You can baby and screw up a two without even
trying.
john hauck
mkIII
titus, alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Any one know anything about this outfit |
That is true... but I've never seized an engine of any type! Rotax's have seized
even with OEM parts so...??? Sometimes I think Rotax banks on the fear factor...
all the way to the bank! I believe owner maintenance and running procedures
are the deciding factor as to how well an engine does... period!
--------
Tony B.
Kolb MKIII C
Rotax 582
C Gearbox 3.00:1
WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Pennzoil |
You can get it at the Shell Aerospace and Aviation Store at:
http://www.shellaviationstore.com/order/displaytype.cfm?type=AE&bus_unit=&doc=&bus_desc=&show=asp_menu
<http://www.shellaviationstore.com/order/displaytype.cfm?type=AE&bus_unit=&doc=&bus_desc=&show=asp_menu>But
at $80 for a case plus shipping, yikes.
For what it's worth whatever you get, if you run oil injection or you have a
582 (the rotary valve) and you're changing oil types be sure to purge the
system before adding the new oil. Some additve packages in the oil will
cause the oil to congeal if mixed with a different additive. The classic was
Pennzoil Air Cooled and Pennzoil Marine. Just passing along what Eric
covered in two stroke school.
Rick Girard
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 7:29 PM, <Arksey@aol.com> wrote:
> Hi gang,
> I understand that Shell has just introduced AEROSHELL OIL SPORT PLUS 2
> a new 2 stroke oil which is supposed to be recommended for Rotax. Lockwood
> Avaition is now selling it and tested it...I have not yet looked for it
> local but intend to. It is my understanding that Pennzoil is owned by
> Shell. The following web site explains the new Shell 2- stroke oil in more
> detail.
>
>
> http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/aboutshell/media_center/news_and_press_releases/2010/aviation_012010.html
>
> Jim Swan
> firestar ll with a 503 in Michigan
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Been running Phillips Injex 2 stroke oil in all my Rotax 2 strokes since 1984 with
no problems, that comes out to 1300 hours. The local oil company even delivers
it to my door, since I buy 2 or 3 cases at a time. Last summer I think they
got about $40 for a case of 12 quarts.
Phillips Injex wont get as much sooty carbon all over the tail of your airplane
as Pennzoil does. I tried Pennzoil for a year, went back to Injex, Pennzoil was
just too nasty.
Yes, I know Lockwood thinks Pennzoil is better. That's OK, they still haven't figured
out how to put a windshield on a Drifter that doesn't make the tail shake...
(Sorry Artie)
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Pennzoil |
Thank God, I never had to run those expensive oils. If I had, I would
have run out of money before I got out of site of Gantt IAP. ;-)
Back in the early 80's I did some research, without a computer, to find
a two stroke oil for air cooled engines. Somewhere along the line I had
discovered information that there was some available. However, there
was none available of the store shelves. All this research was done
through telephone books and telephones. Early on I talked to the folks
at Pennzoil's SE US area office, Jackson, MS. Sure, we have two stroke
oil for air cooled engines. How much would you like.
Pennzoil dropped shipped 12 quart cases for me to the local quick oil
change place on Atlanta Hwy, Montgomery, AL, for about 8.00 or 10.00 a
case, no shipping charges. I'd stop by the oil change place, give them
a personal check and be on my way.
That lasted for a few years before Lockwood or some of the Rotax gurus
discovered and started selling this brand new oil for Rotax air cooled
engines, and the price suddenly doubled. I was still getting mine from
Jackson, MS, until one day I called and the well had dried up.
Had good luck with Pennzoil, about the same as I had with Walmart TCW3.
My story and I'm sticking to it.
john hauck
MKIII
titus, alabama
Rick Girard
But at $80 for a case plus shipping, yikes.
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I'm pretty much with John H. on this one. I think the API TC oils do a hair better
in terms of carbon buildup, but a Rotax 2 stroke will do fine on TCW-III.
I ran the walmart oil for most of the time I owned my ultralight in its points
(non-provision) 503 with no problems.
Besides, before there even was the TC spec from API, Rotax required TCW-II and
then III oils. Not much change inside in terms of metallurgy since then, so...
go figure.....
LS
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LS
Titan II SS
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| Subject: | Gulp. I'm forsaking my Drifter. |
In the thread re: Penzoil, Richard Pike wrote:"Yes, I know Lockwood thinks
Pennzoil is better. That's OK, they still haven't figured out how to put a
windshield on a Drifter that doesn't make the tail shake... (Sorry Arty)-
-"
So now's the time to let you all know that in spite of falling totally in l
ove with the Drifter Red Rocket (an aerobatic, clipped wing Drifter...that
cruises at 80+ and STILL doesn't have a windshield,) I've gone out and boug
ht a Sport Flight Talon Typhoon. It's a third generation Drifter - looks li
ke a Drifter on steroids. Not as gigantic as the Air Cam, sort of the Mama
Bear between the Papa Bear Air Cam and the Baby Bear Drifter. And it has a
slight windshield - just a slight one, but more than the Drifter's.
I really considered a Kolb - seriously, seriously. I can't tell you how thi
s list - and all the wonderful folks I've met who fly Kolbs, made me want t
o be a Kolb driver. But I wanted something much more open than any of the s
peedier Kolbs, and once you're used to flying completely in the open, buyin
g a fully enclosed and taking the doors off still feels claustraphobic.-
So, unless something goes very awry, I'll be flying my Talon to the disorga
nized Kolb Fly In at Monument Valley this May. I can hardly wait!!!
Arty TrostDrifter AND Talon driverSandy, Oregon
www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm
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