---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/08/10: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:49 AM - Re: Flight report (zeprep251@aol.com) 2. 05:50 AM - Re: Tailboom Dolly (Thom Riddle) 3. 05:50 AM - Tail boom dollies (zeprep251@aol.com) 4. 05:50 AM - Re: Flight report (George Alexander) 5. 05:55 AM - Re: Tailboom Dolly (Thom Riddle) 6. 06:05 AM - Re: Re: Flight report (John Hauck) 7. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: Flight report (Beauford T) 8. 07:56 AM - Re: Tailboom Dolly (Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN) 9. 08:40 AM - Re: Re: Tailboom Dolly (George T. Alexander, Jr.) 10. 09:34 AM - Re: what upstate NY looks like (Thom Riddle) 11. 09:53 AM - Re: Re: what upstate NY looks like (John Hauck) 12. 10:08 AM - Re: what upstate NY looks like (Thom Riddle) 13. 10:16 AM - Re: Re: Flight report (zeprep251@aol.com) 14. 10:34 AM - Re: Re: what upstate NY looks like (Dana Hague) 15. 10:45 AM - Re: what upstate NY looks like (Thom Riddle) 16. 10:59 AM - Re: what upstate NY looks like (lucien) 17. 11:03 AM - Re: Flight report (lucien) 18. 11:21 AM - Re: Flight report (lucien) 19. 01:02 PM - Re: black dust from starter? (b young) 20. 03:14 PM - Re: black dust from starter? (Tom Jones) 21. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: Flight report (zeprep251@aol.com) 22. 03:22 PM - Re: Re: Flight report (Dana Hague) 23. 05:37 PM - Re: black dust from starter? (Kirkds) 24. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: Flight report (John Hauck) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:15 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight report From: zeprep251@aol.com Roger, It's beautiful and fun,but some in the aviation community might call these pictures ("evidence").Got to be careful what you post. G Aman PS For the first time in my flying career,I patched a bullet hole in my aircraft wing,one in the bottom ,one in the top -----Original Message----- From: R. Hankins Sent: Sun, Feb 7, 2010 10:14 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Flight report It has not been a good winter for flying in my neck of the woods, but I sn uck in a nice flight this morning in between storms. It was one of those post ra in, dead calm, puffy cloud mornings. I played around for an hour or so, in an d around the cotton candy. Here is a link to a short video I shot while fly ing around one of the cloud columns. I'll attach a picture as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWlwU8PqJjQ Every once in a while a flight makes me smile like a kid who just got his first kiss. This was one of those. Still smiling. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285290#285290 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p1130489_128.jpg ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:31 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tailboom Dolly From: "Thom Riddle" When I was flying an early firestar and folding the wings for each flight, I built a wooden dolly that also supported the wings up high over the tail wires so I wouldn't have to fold the tail for each flight. It saved enough time to make it worthwhile. Photo attached. The photo doesn't show this but I held the wings in place with a hose that fitted over the aileron balance tubes on one end and bungeed the other end together with a wrap of foam rubber around the boom where the wings made contact. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends. - Herbert Hoover Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285330#285330 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_boom_wing_dolly_small_204.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:52 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Tail boom dollies From: zeprep251@aol.com Easy to make and supports wings when traveling ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:56 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report From: "George Alexander" zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote: > > > * * * * SNIP * * * * > G Aman > > PS For the first time in my flying career,I patched a bullet hole in my aircraft wing,one in the bottom ,one in the top > > -- Gary: Do you have any idea when/where your Kolb was a target? -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285332#285332 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:33 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tailboom Dolly From: "Thom Riddle" When I was flying an early firestar and folding the wings for each flight, I built a wooden dolly that also supported the wings up high over the tail wires so I wouldn't have to fold the tail for each flight. It saved enough time to make it worthwhile. Photo attached. The photo doesn't show this but I held the wings in place with a hose that fitted over the aileron balance tubes on one end and bungeed the other end together with a wrap of foam rubber around the boom where the wings made contact. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 About the time we think we can make ends meet, somebody moves the ends. - Herbert Hoover Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285335#285335 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/close_up_of_boom_wing_dolly_small_204.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:24 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report > Do you have any idea when/where your Kolb was a target? > > -------- > George Alexander Morning Gang: Did you report this to local and Federal authorities? Any investigation started? Folks go to jail for shooting airplanes. I have had several holes in my wings, ailerons, flaps, and fuselage fabric over the past 26 years, but they were from FOD (foreign object damage). That is bad news. There are nuts cases out there that will shoot at civilian and military aircraft. john hauck mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:31 AM PST US From: "Beauford T" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report John: RE: Bulletholes -- I can recall being based at the Dublin, Ga. airport during the winter months in the mid 60's, when the Feds arrived with two well-used Super Cubs to engage in a little moonshine still hunting for two weeks. They would launch at first light and cruise slowly around a target county at 500 feet or so, looking for the smoke going straight up from the whiskey mash cooking fires out in the woods. When the breeze came up around 1000 hours, it scattered the smoke and made it hard to find, so the "revenuers" would recover to the airport and wait until late afternoon to go again. Both of their airplanes had numerous bullethole patches on them... one of them must have had around a dozen. The pilots laughed about it... but were dead serious when they warned us about the dangers of playing around low and slow over the piney woods in little airplanes...(most of that part of south central Georgia was piney woods). It seems that an airplane was an airplane to the good 'ol boys cooking the mash, and they were obviously equal opportunity shooters... Occasionally think about that when cruising around over the local woods at 55 mph in the Kleenex Kolb, but no holes as yet... I reckon the local Florida boys are too busy running smokeless crystal meth labs indoors in trailers to waste time fooling around out in the woods with smelly old stills... Times have changed... Worth what ye paid fer it... Do not archive. beauford FF-076 Brandon, FL ------------------- Did you report this to local and Federal authorities? Any investigation started? Folks go to jail for shooting airplanes. I have had several holes in my wings, ailerons, flaps, and fuselage fabric over the past 26 years, but they were from FOD (foreign object damage). ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tailboom Dolly From: "Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN" Pete - For tailboom support ideas, check out George Alexander's excellent Kolb website. He's done a good job of collecting pictures of the various ideas from our Kolb List members. (sorry - I do not have the URL handy right now ...) Dennis Kirby New Mexico do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:06 AM PST US From: "George T. Alexander, Jr." Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Tailboom Dolly Dennis et al: New URL...... http://www.oh2fly.net George _____ From: owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kirby, Dennis Civ USAF AFMC AFNWC/EN Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 10:55 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Tailboom Dolly Pete - For tailboom support ideas, check out George Alexander's excellent Kolb website. He's done a good job of collecting pictures of the various ideas from our Kolb List members. (sorry - I do not have the URL handy right now .) Dennis Kirby New Mexico do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:45 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: what upstate NY looks like From: "Thom Riddle" What upstate NY looked like from my first early FS in Sept. 2003. Very white below but not snow. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 Always be nice to your children because they are the ones who will choose your rest home. - Phyllis Diller Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285385#285385 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/earlyfs377_in_flight_above_clouds_115.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:53:30 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: what upstate NY looks like > What upstate NY looked like from my first early FS in Sept. 2003. Very white below but not snow. > -------- > Thom Riddle Thom/Gang: Ever get caught on top doing that? john hauck mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:08:52 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: what upstate NY looks like From: "Thom Riddle" At the time, I had a current medical so I was flying legally as a private pilot.... but illegally in an unregistered overweight Firestar.... which was pretty common at the time, but still illegal. So far, my only encounter with the FAA as an active pilot has been a single ramp check after a night IFR flight in a Piper Cherokee landing at Hays, KS. The FAA met me (and the instructor) at the airplane as I was unloading and asked for papers. All in order with no consequences. He was very polite and friendly. I try to stay legal these days so no "on top" flying anymore. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 Always be nice to your children because they are the ones who will choose your rest home. - Phyllis Diller Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285394#285394 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:16:16 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report From: zeprep251@aol.com George, I know where I'd been but not sure when the holes arrived.They're just beh ind the thickest part of the airfoil and small,about 1/4"dia.,smooth on th e bottom and a little more ragged on the top.I was cleaning the top of the wing while folded when I first noticed it.Thought it was a bird strike un til I found the matching hole in the bottom.Have 10 hrs on it since I got here in Dec.Didn't keep the log up to date.That would have been helpful. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: George Alexander Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 8:50 am Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report zeprep251(at)aol.com wrote: > > > * * * * SNIP * * * * > G Aman > > PS For the first time in my flying career,I patched a bullet hole in my aircraft wing,one in the bottom ,one in the top > > -- Gary: Do you have any idea when/where your Kolb was a target? -------- George Alexander FS II R503 N709FS http://gtalexander.home.att.net Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285332#285332 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:34:28 AM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: what upstate NY looks like At 12:48 PM 2/8/2010, John Hauck wrote: >Ever get caught on top doing that? I did once, in the T-Craft. I knew the ceiling was at least 1000' underneath so I did a spin to get down through. -Dana -- Tolerate the freedom of others or lose yours! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 10:45:32 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: what upstate NY looks like From: "Thom Riddle" Oh..., is that what you meant by getting "caught on top"? In that case, no. However, the day after my FAA ramp check, I flew up through a small hole and flew on top of solid overcast for about 100 miles to land somewhere in Colorado where it was CAVU, which I knew before departure and had 50 gallons of fuel on board. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x31 Always be nice to your children because they are the ones who will choose your rest home. - Phyllis Diller Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285403#285403 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 10:59:43 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: what upstate NY looks like From: "lucien" John Hauck wrote: > > Thom/Gang: > > Ever get caught on top doing that? > > john hauck > mkIII > Titus, Alabama Came close once in my ultralight back in TX. I got down through a hole by doing a tight spiral descent. After that the only time I've gone "VFR on top" is if I can keep a large open patch nearby and there's a decent temp/dewpoint spread. Overcasts like this are extremely rare where I fly now so don't run into it that much.... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285407#285407 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:26 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report From: "lucien" R. Hankins wrote: > It has not been a good winter for flying in my neck of the woods, but I snuck in a nice flight this morning in between storms. It was one of those post rain, dead calm, puffy cloud mornings. I played around for an hour or so, in and around the cotton candy. Here is a link to a short video I shot while flying around one of the cloud columns. I'll attach a picture as well. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWlwU8PqJjQ > > Every once in a while a flight makes me smile like a kid who just got his first kiss. This was one of those. > > Still smiling. You know you're breakin' all kinds of rules, dontcha..... No I won't tell and yes I totally live for views like this too when I go fly (in the rare event we have cumulus clouds around here)... Awsome..... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285413#285413 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:29 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report From: "lucien" One of the reasons I'm an altitude man and don't like low-and-slow..... I worried the most about getting shot at back when I flew my powered parachute. We flew out in the boonies of TX most of the time and there was no shortage of buck-tooth idiots around out there who'd not think twice about shooting at anything that flew over them. Even here I try to fly quietly and as high up as I can reasonably go without wasting too much gas, etc....... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285423#285423 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:02:41 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: black dust from starter? Anyone ever experience a black dust blowing out of their starter? Is there any maintenance needed on a starter...such as taking it apart and cleaning it? I will give Ronnie a call this week and ask him, but wondered if anyone else has seen this? -------- Cristal Waters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. Crystal No I haven't seen it. Guess it depends if the black is coming from inside or outside the starter. It may be an indication that the lubricant in the starter has dried up. And you are starting to rub metal to metal. I would think that removal and lubricating would be in order. Or the mounting hardware is chafing. Boyd Young Kolb MKIII Utah. ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:14:22 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: black dust from starter? From: "Tom Jones" > Anyone ever experience a black dust blowing out of their starter? Is there any maintenance needed on a starter...such as taking it apart and cleaning it? I will give Ronnie a call this week and ask him, but wondered if anyone else has seen this? Ask Ronnie if it could be coming from a loose fan belt wearing out. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285488#285488 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report From: zeprep251@aol.com Lucien, The only time I was under 1000' was take off & landing.Back home is a diff erent story.The direct drive Jabiru is loud.Another reason to fly a Rotax engine,so quiet nobody will know you are out and about . G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: lucien Sent: Mon, Feb 8, 2010 2:18 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report One of the reasons I'm an altitude man and don't like low-and-slow..... I worried the most about getting shot at back when I flew my powered parachu te. We flew out in the boonies of TX most of the time and there was no shortage of buck-tooth idiots around out there who'd not think twice about shooting at anything that flew over them. Even here I try to fly quietly and as high up as I can reasonably go witho ut wasting too much gas, etc....... LS -------- LS Titan II SS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285423#285423 ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 03:22:37 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report At 02:18 PM 2/8/2010, lucien wrote: > >One of the reasons I'm an altitude man and don't like low-and-slow..... I >worried the most about getting shot at back when I flew my powered >parachute. We flew out in the boonies of TX most of the time and there was >no shortage of buck-tooth idiots around out there who'd not think twice >about shooting at anything that flew over them. Hah! I've heard lots of PPC pilots find bullet holes in their wings... I guess they're so slow they're an irresistible target. Out in Kansas there was a clown who was shooting at PPC's during the big annual Powrachute fly-in. Somehow he was caught, and found guilty. The judge sentenced him to probation... and jail for the week of the fly-in, every year for the next 12 years. No word on whether the fly-in pilots deliberately fly past the jail and wave... :) -Dana do not archive -- Lie ? Me ? Never! No, no, no, the truth is far too much fun! ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:27 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: black dust from starter? From: "Kirkds" You may need to replace the brushes in your starter as they wear down over time from rubbing on the commutator leaving a fine black dust. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=285520#285520 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:01 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Flight report > Even here I try to fly quietly and as high up as I can reasonably go without wasting too much gas, etc....... > > LS How do you accomplish that? John Williamson and I have low leveled from Sherman, TX, to Monument Valley, UT, continued low level from there to the Rock House, 7 miles south of Burns Junction, OR. If we were shot at during that flight, we never knew it. Last time either John W or I were shot at, that we know of, is Vietnam 1970 for me, and I can't remember when John W came home the last time, 1972, kinda rings a bell. Of course, we were both in a wonderful position to defend ourselves in VN. Be careful how you talk about country folks. There are a bunch of us on the Kolb List and we all fly Kolbs. ;-) john hauck mkIII hauck's holler Titus, Alabama ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.