---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/20/10: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:59 AM - Re: Valley Engineering Big-Twin - Any one flying with one? (Jimmy Young) 2. 07:29 AM - Re: Re: Valley Engineering Big-Twin - Any one flying with one? (John Hauck) 3. 01:06 PM - Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue (Bob Kravis) 4. 02:07 PM - Texas Red's transport (Bob Kravis) 5. 02:19 PM - 447 fuel pressure sensor (Bob Kravis) 6. 02:23 PM - Trailering prep ideas (Bob Kravis) 7. 03:41 PM - Trailer (lhaggerty) 8. 05:49 PM - Re: Trailering prep ideas (robert bean) 9. 07:41 PM - Re: Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 10. 08:47 PM - Re: Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue (Bob Kravis) 11. 09:47 PM - Recommendations for Storing a 447 (Bob Kravis) 12. 11:23 PM - Re: In flight Adjustable Trim (joepilot503) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:50 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Valley Engineering Big-Twin - Any one flying with one? From: "Jimmy Young" > Jimmy, do you think you may have been over propping the engine not > allowing it to generate the RPM it needed to produce the HP - best to > prop to be in the highest torque area. > jerryb > Jerry, I do not remember the specific max rpms with each individual prop, but all of them turned between 3550 & 3700 at WOT. The max rpm is @ 3600. The 40 HP @ 3600 rpm claim comes from Valley Engineering. I do not know if that # comes from a dyno test session or not, you would have to ask them. Generac rates it at 33 HP continuous, I think that was at 3200 rpm. Regardless of all the power claims, the engine did not have the necessary power required to fly my plane safely. -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287341#287341 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:45 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Valley Engineering Big-Twin - Any one flying with one? Regardless of all the power claims, the engine did not have the necessary power required to fly my plane safely. -------- Jimmy Young Jimmy Y/Gang: The original FS with a 35 hp 377 Rotax was a hot rod. Flew like a Kolb was designed to fly. I never flew a 28 hp 277 Rotax, but flew with several that performed acceptably on Minimax, and other ULs. I never flew Jimmy's Generac powered FS, but have observed him fly and flown in formation with him. My observations were the engine was anemic and created an unsafe condition when flying from anything other than a long paved airstrip. Just a guess, but the Generac did not come close to producing claimed power. I'd put it in the same category as the weak half VW powered N3 Pup my buddy used to fly years ago. Larry Israel and his buddy tried to convert the 2CV Citroen 2 cyl opposed (similar to the BMW Boxer but much, much less HP) engine, but could not get enough power out of it to make a good alternative 4 stroke UL engine. Not easy to come up with a good, reliable alternative engine to power UL and light planes. If it was, they would be out there available to buy and fly. john hauck Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:44 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue From: Bob Kravis Happy ending today. The original buyer stepped down and I made the purchase! For those you you that have wished me luck...a big THANK YOU. Now I have got a trailer in Sadorus, IL that was custom made in Texas for a Firefly and a Firefly in Ellensburg, WA. Both a long way from Maine! Next month they both will have a new home. I appreciate the encouragement you have provided and your information and thoughts about the purchases too. I will be posting some new questions about my next steps as new topics. bk ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:23 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Texas Red's transport From: Bob Kravis Looking at options on getting the FF back east from WA, I came upon the Barnstormer's ad for Texas Red's transport service. He's cheap at $1/mi. on a shared load. That's cheaper than driving out and back. Wonder if anybody ever heard about his service? Aside from references, what should I be asking him? Of course I am asking to find out if it is an enclosed or open trailer. Haven't heard back yet. Bob ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:19:55 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: 447 fuel pressure sensor From: Bob Kravis The new FF has a GRT 2002 EIS with altitude sensor. Hal said it is sweet. I looked at Grand Rapids website and saw that they offer a fuel pressure sensor. As I have read in the postings, many of the engine outs are due to fuel starvation. There is a testimonial on their website (see Flying Impressions ) about an RV owner who turned back when he got a low fuel pressure warning after takeoff. That got me thinking about adding one. What does the group think about that idea? Bob ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:23:13 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Trailering prep ideas From: Bob Kravis My email buddy and FF owner Ken, sent me the following. It is just the kind of tips a first timer like me needs. If you could offer some additional thoughts, I am all ears! "Regarding transport, may I offer some advice? Ask the seller or mover to remove the wings (just one bolt per wing is all it takes). In the folded position, the wings hang on a removable device made of steel rods that fits into a hole in the boom tube and holes on the undersides of the wings. My trip out to Oregon [from factory] took quite a toll on those holes in the wings with the combination of vibrations and steel against aluminum. Other issues for the mover to consider are such things as supporting the boom tube so that the weight is off of the tailwheel, insuring that there's no rubbing or contact between two fabric covered surfaces and prevention of things like the prop (if left attached to the engine) or lift struts (if left attached to the wings) from causing damage to fabric surfaces. I hope this doesn't cause unnecessary worry for you.....just thought I'd pass on some of the lessons I've learned (too often the hard way)." Bob ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:41:40 PM PST US From: "lhaggerty" Subject: Kolb-List: Trailer I am looking for a trailer for a Fire Fly. Pete ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:04 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Trailering prep ideas Wings should come off and be strapped to either the sides or ceiling of the trailer. the bottom (nose) of the wings should have carpeting wrapped and broad nylon straps for suspension. I worked for me and several hundred miles of travel with a MkIII. BB On 20, Feb 2010, at 5:21 PM, Bob Kravis wrote: > My email buddy and FF owner Ken, sent me the following. It is just the kind of tips a first timer like me needs. If you could offer some additional thoughts, I am all ears! > "Regarding transport, may I offer some advice? Ask the seller or mover to remove the wings (just one bolt per wing is all it takes). In the folded position, the wings hang on a removable device made of steel rods that fits into a hole in the boom tube and holes on the undersides of the wings. My trip out to Oregon [from factory] took quite a toll on those holes in the wings with the combination of vibrations and steel against aluminum. Other issues for the mover to consider are such things as supporting the boom tube so that the weight is off of the tailwheel, insuring that there's no rubbing or contact between two fabric covered surfaces and prevention of things like the prop (if left attached to the engine) or lift struts (if left attached to the wings) from causing damage to fabric surfaces. I hope this doesn't cause unnecessary worry for you.....just thought I'd pass on some of the lessons I've learned (too often the hard way)." > Bob > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue From: Ellery Batchelder Jr Great Bob I am happy for you Great to see things are working out for you, always another Kolp Owner /Pilot welcome I am still willing to give you some time Im My Mk3 C if you are interested Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kravis Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 4:04 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue Happy ending today. The original buyer stepped down and I made the purcha se! For those you you that have wished me luck...a big THANK YOU. Now I have got a trailer in Sadorus, IL that was custom made in Texas for a Firefly and a Firefly in Ellensburg, WA. Both a long way from Maine! Next month they both will have a new home. I appreciate the encouragement you have provided and your information and thoughts about the purchases too. I will be posting some new questions about my next steps as new topics. bk ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:47:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue From: Bob Kravis Absolutely interested. I wanted to make sure the deal was a go before contacting you. BTW I saw your pictures in the photos section. Very nice! Bob On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote: > Great Bob I am happy for you Great to see things are working out for you, > always another Kolp Owner /Pilot welcome > I am still willing to give you some time Im My Mk3 C if you are interested > > > *Ellery Batchelder Jr.* > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Kravis > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sat, Feb 20, 2010 4:04 pm > Subject: Kolb-List: Re:Crossed Fingers on purchase - - - Epilogue > > Happy ending today. The original buyer stepped down and I made the > purchase! For those you you that have wished me luck...a big THANK YOU. > > Now I have got a trailer in Sadorus, IL that was custom made in Texas for > a Firefly and a Firefly in Ellensburg, WA. Both a long way from Maine! > Next month they both will have a new home. > > I appreciate the encouragement you have provided and your information and > thoughts about the purchases too. I will be posting some new questions > about my next steps as new topics. > > bk > > * > > =================================== > rget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > =================================== > tp://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > =================================== > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:17 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Recommendations for Storing a 447 From: Bob Kravis Seeking instructions for storage (more than a month). I saw the Rotax manual's brief description, drain fuel system, squirt oil into carb and through plug holes. Can you share any experience? I read an old post from a guy who shot the fogging oil tube into his crankcase, LOL. Bob ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:56 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: In flight Adjustable Trim From: "joepilot503" I installed in flight trim wheel from Rans, works great. here is a photo. Brian. 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