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1. 05:23 AM - Re: Re: 4130 steel and rockwell hardness (robert bean)
2. 06:58 AM - Aileron gap seal (lhaggerty)
3. 08:03 AM - Re: Re: 4130 steel and rockwell hardness (John Hauck)
4. 08:04 AM - Mk3 Baggage Area Question (mark rinehart)
5. 09:01 AM - Re: Mk3 Baggage Area Question (John Hauck)
6. 09:01 AM - Re: Mk3 Baggage Area Question (Richard & Martha Neilsen)
7. 03:15 PM - Re: Mk3 Baggage Area Question (Richard Pike)
8. 03:28 PM - Re: Aileron gap seal (Richard Pike)
9. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Aileron gap seal (John Hauck)
10. 06:02 PM - (Ben Ramler)
11. 06:23 PM - Re: (Richard Girard)
12. 07:40 PM - Kolb List Scam - Beware! (Beauford T)
13. 07:58 PM - Re: Noise Insulating Foam (zeprep251@aol.com)
14. 08:07 PM - Re: Noise Insulating Foam (John Hauck)
15. 08:44 PM - Re: Noise Insulating Foam (zeprep251@aol.com)
16. 08:57 PM - Re: Noise Insulating Foam (John Hauck)
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| Subject: | Re: 4130 steel and rockwell hardness |
I compared the weights when I installed the steel legs and they do weigh slightly
more than the aluminum too.
BB
On 23, Feb 2010, at 9:45 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
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> Bob,
> LOL "boing boing boing ." eh?
>
> Well, spring steel gear won't be nearly as springy as what I have now.
> The only reason I'm changing to steel is because FIBERGLASS is not torsionally
stiff enough to maintain precise wheel alignment.
> This makes for some really squirrelly ground roll at times.
> Been using fiberglass for years but the time has come for me for something more
tame and docile.
> Hate to add the extra weight of steel however.
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> Gene Z
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> On Feb 23, 2010, at 6:17 PM, robert bean wrote:
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>> Eugene Z landing this coming summer: boing boing boing . ahh now I got it!
>> BB
>> do not archive
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>> On 23, Feb 2010, at 5:42 PM, Eugene Zimmerman wrote:
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>>> Kolb friends,
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>>> Whoopee!
>>> I just got back home from delivering my 4130 legs to "Metal Improvement Company"
(MIC) in Emigsville Pa, less that 40 minutes from my house.
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>>> They said it would be a 2 to 3 day turnaround.
>>> They have $140. minimum charge however, but what the heck, no freight and no
wait.
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>>> I want to thank all you guys for your suggestions and attempts to help me
find a heat treater.
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>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=287887#287887
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| Subject: | Aileron gap seal |
My Fire Fly transport arrived yesterday and while putting the wings back
on I noticed the the aileron gapseal needs to be replaced. Any
suggestions. Pete
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| Subject: | Re: 4130 steel and rockwell hardness |
I compared the weights when I installed the steel legs and they do weigh
slightly more than the aluminum too.
BB
Bob B/Gang:
In 1991, at Homer's, during fabrication of my mkIII, we compared our "hauck
MKIII landing gear" with stock aluminum MKIII main gear. Our gear weight
included the gear leg mounts and gear legs. We came out lighter than the
standard aluminum gear, but memory of amount is long gone. My gear legs are
24" long with 6" inserted in the gear leg sockets.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Mk3 Baggage Area Question |
I modified my Mk3 fuselage cage to add an 12"x12" access door on the horizontal
deck behind the seats (very similar to what Steve Green did with his). Before
I cover the cage, I was wondering if I should install a shelf in this area for
storing baggage/camping equip/etc. For those of you who store stuff in this
area, what do you do? I know wt&bal can be an issue, so I don't plan on putting
anything too heavy back there.
Mark Rinehart
Indy MarkIII
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3 Baggage Area Question |
I modified my Mk3 fuselage cage to add an 12"x12" access door on the
horizontal deck behind the seats (very similar to what Steve Green did with
his). Before I cover the cage, I was wondering if I should install a shelf
in this area for storing baggage/camping equip/etc. For those of you who
store stuff in this area, what do you do? I know wt&bal can be an issue, so
I don't plan on putting anything too heavy back there.
Mark Rinehart
Mark R/Gang:
I put a 25 gal (150 lbs of fuel) aluminum fuel tank up and rear where the
open area is in a standard MKIII.
That opened up the bottom, behind the bulkhead, for cargo.
Used D-103, heaviest Stitts fabric and doubled the bottom of the fuselage.
I put about 100 to 125 lbs of gear back there.
More stuff goes under and behind the seats, plus stuff in the nose of my
MKIII.
CG has not been a problem with my MKIII. I have a 12+ lb Maule Tundra
Tailwheel to boot.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3 Baggage Area Question |
Mark
My rear fuselage is completely enclosed like John H's airplane but I have
the stock fuel tanks. I added two triangular bins low, one behind each seat
and a shelf near the top of the tanks that goes all the way back. When
traveling I load these areas with mostly clothing accessed via a sound
proofed curtain just behind the seats. This area is very close to CG so
don't worry too much about messing up your wt&bal. Between these storage
areas and the right cockpit seating area I can load a weeks clothing, a 6
gallon aux fuel tank, 5 tie downs with ropes, tent, sleeping bag, air
mattress, pillow, folding camp chair, survival gear, extra oil and misc.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark rinehart" <capt_riney@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 11:01 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk3 Baggage Area Question
>
> I modified my Mk3 fuselage cage to add an 12"x12" access door on the
> horizontal deck behind the seats (very similar to what Steve Green did
> with his). Before I cover the cage, I was wondering if I should install a
> shelf in this area for storing baggage/camping equip/etc. For those of
> you who store stuff in this area, what do you do? I know wt&bal can be an
> issue, so I don't plan on putting anything too heavy back there.
>
> Mark Rinehart
> Indy MarkIII
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Mk3 Baggage Area Question |
I put my gas tank between the wings and ahead of the engine, and turned the previous
tank area into luggage. Here's some pics -
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg1.htm
And here's some more -
http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg3.htm
Gives me a space as big as the original two 5 gallon tanks plus the package shelf
for the lighter stuff like jackets or whatever. Since I don't do long cross
countries anymore, it's enough.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=288045#288045
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
Something that has worked well so far as a gap seal between the elevators and horizontal
stab, I got some Office Depot brand premium packing tape which is 1
7/8" wide. Unless you cover the unused sticky part with something, it will collect
dirt and soon look awful, so I tore off a length and pinned it down sticky
side up. Then you get some 3/4" or 7/8" wide clear tape and lay it onto the
middle of the wide tape, sticky sides together. You will need a helper, because
it tries to jump together and will drive you nuts. Then get the wing and aileron
clean, stick it on the underside of the wing and aileron with a little free
play and you are good to go.
Like I say, it has held up for about three years on the tail, so it ought to work
on the ailerons.
Or you could just bite the bullet and do it with Stits...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=288047#288047
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
Or you could just bite the bullet and do it with Stits...
Richard Pike
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Richard/Gang:
I still have one wing on my mkIII with 19 year old serviceable gap seal on
flap and aileron. That is a total of 2,987.0 flight hours. Ain't bad for a
piece of polyester fabric finishing tape with a little dope and paint.
Gap seal on the other wing was good and probably would have lasted as long,
but the wing got broken in 2000. ;-)
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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How are you,I hope all is well at home and work,I'm writing you this with tears
in my eyes,as many of you have not responded to my last email and i guess you
don't seem to be of help after when i told you about my difficulties here in
United Kingdomi write to let you know i misplaced my wallet on my way heading
back to my hotel room from the Starbucks coffee shop.Presently i have limited
access to internet and would like you to assist me with a loan of 1,540 Pounds
to sort-out my hotel bills and to get myself back home because my wallet consist
of all my money,phone,diary and my boarding pass(Return Ticket).
I have spoken to the embassy here but they are not responding to matters effectively,I'll
Refund the money back to you as soon as i'm back home,I would have
love you to call me but don't have a phone where i can be reached.
let me know if you can be of any help,I will appreciate whatever you can afford
to assist me with, do get back to me immediately as you receive this email in
order for me to let you know where to send the money.
I know this email sounds strange but i did send it
Thanks
Ben
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I'm guessing no one responded because your return ticket was to Never Never
Land. For the benefit of the rest of you idiots in Nigeria, this BS doesn't
work with this group.
Rick
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Ben Ramler <ben_ramler2002@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> How are you,I hope all is well at home and work,I'm writing you this with
> tears in my eyes,as many of you have not responded to my last email and i
> guess you don't seem to be of help after when i told you about my
> difficulties here in United Kingdomi write to let you know i misplaced my
> wallet on my way heading back to my hotel room from the Starbucks coffee
> shop.Presently i have limited access to internet and would like you to
> assist me with a loan of 1,540 Pounds to sort-out my hotel bills and to get
> myself back home because my wallet consist of all my money,phone,diary and
> my boarding pass(Return Ticket).
>
> I have spoken to the embassy here but they are not responding to matters
> effectively,I'll Refund the money back to you as soon as i'm back home,I
> would have love you to call me but don't have a phone where i can be
> reached.
> let me know if you can be of any help,I will appreciate whatever you can
> afford to assist me with, do get back to me immediately as you receive this
> email in order for me to let you know where to send the money.
>
>
> I know this email sounds strange but i did send it
>
> Thanks
> Ben
>
>
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| Subject: | Kolb List Scam - Beware! |
Kolbers:
Be advised that there is an African originated e-mail scam
circulating among some members of the List... This
is a version of a worm that takes over a group member's address book
and shotguns requests for
money to be sent to an overseas address, supposedly to assist someone
who has been called out of the
country and is in trouble. This request is automatically sent to
every addressee in the stolen address book.
Whatever you do, DO NOT RESPOND to, or answer the e-mail or your
e-mail address goes into the
data base for these goons and you will be hearing from them again...
Worth what ye paid fer it....
Do not archive
beauford
FF-076
Brandon, FL
NOTE : If you forward this e-mail, please remove my address from it
before you send it .
I promise to do the same for you.
Thanks.
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| Subject: | Re: Noise Insulating Foam |
John,
Hi-Tech Foams Lincoln NE 402-470-2346.I believe the product is called Dens
o-Foam.It's 1/2" thick
peel and stick on the white side,black on the other.
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Mon, Feb 22, 2010 10:44 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Noise Insulating Foam
Hi Folks:
Recently, someone posted the name and a source for some thin noise
insulating self-adhesive foam. At the time, I did not see a requirement
for
it, but now I do.
After rebuilding the mkIII center section with sheet metal and not lexan,
I
am now flying in a true snare drum. Blamed it on my radio, my hearing, an
d
anyone else that was standing around, when I realized I had created a drum
.
The 10.5 hour flight day returning from Homer Kolb's funeral almost killed
me. Not only was I deaf as a door knob, but the noise had beat the crap
out
of me and I was worn out well before I saw Gantt IAP and home.
Need to get some and get the noise killed before I start serious flying in
April.
Thanks,
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Noise Insulating Foam |
Gary A/Gang:
That is the one I remember now.
Thanks a million.
I'll check them out.
Did you use this in your airplane? or know someone that did? have any
results?
john hauck
mkIII
titus, alabama
Hi-Tech Foams Lincoln NE 402-470-2346.I believe the product is called
Denso-Foam.It's 1/2" thick
peel and stick on the white side,black on the other.
G.Aman
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| Subject: | Re: Noise Insulating Foam |
John,
Got yards of the stuff everywhere I thought it would help.In the center co
ver on root ends.on both sides of the spar carry through and on the inside
of the top and in the cabin.Ask Rick if it helps.
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 11:06 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Noise Insulating Foam
Gary A/Gang:
That is the one I remember now.
Thanks a million.
I'll check them out.
Did you use this in your airplane? or know someone that did? have any resu
lts?
john hauck
mkIII
titus, alabama
Hi-Tech Foams Lincoln NE 402-470-2346.I believe the product is called
Denso-Foam.It's 1/2" thick
peel and stick on the white side,black on the other.
G.Aman
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| Subject: | Re: Noise Insulating Foam |
OK.
Thanks,
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
Got yards of the stuff everywhere I thought it would help.In the
center cover on root ends.on both sides of the spar carry through and on
the inside of the top and in the cabin.Ask Rick if it helps.
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