Kolb-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/09/10


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 01:42 AM - Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (albertakolbmk3)
     2. 05:57 AM - Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (Mike Welch)
     3. 06:05 AM - Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (Mike Welch)
     4. 06:12 AM - Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (Mike Welch)
     5. 06:25 AM - Re: Videos I took this Sunday (willuribe@aol.com)
     6. 09:19 AM - Re: Fly In photo (Watkinsdw)
     7. 10:13 AM - Re: Fly In photo (ces308)
     8. 03:20 PM - IVO PROP (lhaggerty)
     9. 03:25 PM - Not Kolb Related Jet Contrail, Check it out  (Jack Carillon)
    10. 03:37 PM - Re: IVO PROP (daniel myers)
    11. 04:32 PM - IVO PROP (lhaggerty)
    12. 04:48 PM - Re: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/10 (Vic)
    13. 06:32 PM - Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (HShack@aol.com)
    14. 07:39 PM - Re: Not Kolb Related Jet Contrail, Check it out (Ralph B)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:42:46 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props???
    From: "albertakolbmk3" <cheriebraun@xplornet.com>
    They seem to claim the opposite of what you experienced. They say quieter and better performance. -------- Tony B. Kolb MKIII C Rotax 582 C Gearbox 3.00:1 WD 66&quot; 3 Blade Prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289757#289757


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    Time: 05:57:55 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Any opinions on Kiev props???
    Tony=2C This reply is off-list=2C because I don't want to get into a pissing match on the Kolb list about who make's the best propeller!! As you may know=2C I have the GEO engine on my MkIII. A member of the li st=2C a guy named Vassili=2C sells Koolprops=2C and absolutely swears by th em!! I have NO experience with the Koolprop=2C except from what his custo mer's say. Evidently the Kiev and the Kool props are practically identical=2C except the Kool uses carbon fiber and fiberglass=2C whereas the Kiev uses just fi berglass. Even the prop hub is interchangeable between the Kiev and the Ko ol. Like I said=2C I can't vouch for how good a prop the Kool is=2C but from what I read=2C it seems to be very well built and performs excellently. Mike Welch > Subject: Kolb-List: Any opinions on Kiev props??? > From: cheriebraun@xplornet.com > Date: Mon=2C 8 Mar 2010 13:19:38 -0800 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > om> > > Just wondering if anyone out there is using Kiev prop=2C and what their t houghts are? > > -------- > Tony B. > > Kolb MKIII C > Rotax 582 > C Gearbox 3.00:1 > WD 66&quot=3B 3 Blade Prop > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289671#289671 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.


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    Time: 06:05:17 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Any opinions on Kiev props???
    List=2C There I go again!! That last email was supposed to be off-list to Tony!! Sorry. Since I have very little experience with light plane propellers=2C I didn 't want to get into an argument with anyone who about who makes the best pr op!!! I didn't want to have to defend something I don't have much experien ce with!! I was simply passing along to Tony what I had read. The Kiev and the Kool are practically the same props=2C from what I see. So=2C don't kill the messenger. I'm not an expert on props=2C so don't f eel you have to defend your propeller choice!! Mike Welch > Subject: Kolb-List: Any opinions on Kiev props??? > From: cheriebraun@xplornet.com > Date: Mon=2C 8 Mar 2010 13:19:38 -0800 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > om> > > Just wondering if anyone out there is using Kiev prop=2C and what their t houghts are? > > -------- > Tony B. > > Kolb MKIII C > Rotax 582 > C Gearbox 3.00:1 > WD 66&quot=3B 3 Blade Prop > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289671#289671 > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection.


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    Time: 06:12:28 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Any opinions on Kiev props???
    >Dude=2C >I don't think this went off list... >LOL >Mike Mike=2C Yeah=2C I noticed that as I pushed the send button. Oops! Mike W. do not archive --- On Tue=2C 3/9/10=2C Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> wrote: From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Any opinions on Kiev props??? Tony=2C This reply is off-list=2C because I don't want to get into a pissing match on the Kolb list about who make's the best propeller!! As you may know=2C I have the GEO engine on my MkIII. A member of the li st=2C a guy named Vassili=2C sells Koolprops=2C and absolutely swears by th em!! I have NO experience with the Koolprop=2C except from what his custo mer's say. Evidently the Kiev and the Kool props are practically identical=2C except the Kool uses carbon fiber and fiberglass=2C whereas the Kiev uses just fi berglass. Even the prop hub is interchangeable between the Kiev and the Ko ol. Like I said=2C I can't vouch for how good a prop the Kool is=2C but from what I read=2C it seems to be very well built and performs excellently. Mike Welch > Subject: Kolb-List: Any opinions on Kiev props??? > From: cheriebraun@xplornet.com > Date: Mon=2C 8 Mar 2010 13:19:38 -0800 > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > om> > > Just wondering if anyone out there is using Kiev prop=2C and what their t houghts are? > > -------- > Tony B. > > Kolb MKIII C > Rotax 582 > C Gearbox 3.00:1 > WD 66&quot=3B 3 Blade Prop > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289671#289671 > > > > > > &===================== >=========== > > > Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection.w'>Sign up now. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection.


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    Time: 06:25:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Videos I took this Sunday
    From: willuribe@aol.com
    Forgot to add this video I also took on Sunday of Dave flying his Mosquito Helicopter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99pVVRF7aX0


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    Time: 09:19:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fly In photo
    From: "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0@gmail.com>
    I also tried to capture the rapture of having five Kolbs on the same ramp at Arcadia this Saturday. I'll now attempt to attach the slideshow from Photobucket.com. It was great meeting the elder statesmen of the Kolb club. I also appreciate their discretion in the matter of my landing... I hope to get acquainted with other members of our community at Sun & Fun. Dave W. http://s752.photobucket.com/albums/xx164/Watkinsdw/Arcadia%20Flyin/?action=view&current=b59bfe91.pbw Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289803#289803


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    Time: 10:13:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fly In photo
    From: "ces308" <ces308@ldaco.com>
    Now thats more like it ! Nice pictures ! chris ambrose m3x/jab N327cs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289810#289810


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    Time: 03:20:26 PM PST US
    From: "lhaggerty" <lhaggerty@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: IVO PROP
    I did a stupid thing today and now I need a new blade for my IVO ground adjustable prop, or a new three blade 60" three blade adjustable prop. Don't ask what I did as I am too embarrassed to tell the story. Pete


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    Time: 03:25:08 PM PST US
    From: Jack Carillon <pcarillonsr@neo.rr.com>
    Subject: Not Kolb Related Jet Contrail, Check it out
    100_3749.JPG This is one of about five pixs I took this morning when I took our dog out at 7:30 am. They were perfect Z's when I first saw them, this was taken about five min. later when I finally got my camera. Haven't seen any posts since 9:24 this morning thats why I posted this. Jack Carillon Akron Oh. FS II


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    Time: 03:37:32 PM PST US
    From: daniel myers <h20maule@hotmail.com>
    Subject: IVO PROP
    let me guess...you were working on the engine and left the step ladder by t he prop while you tried starting it... I did that once...check barnstormers .com Daniel From: lhaggerty@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Kolb-List: IVO PROP I did a stupid thing today and now I need a new blade for my IVO ground adj ustable prop=2C or a new three blade 60" three blade adjustable prop. Don't ask what I did as I am too embarrassed to tell the story. Pete _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free.


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    Time: 04:32:35 PM PST US
    From: "lhaggerty" <lhaggerty@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: IVO PROP
    No Danny Boy, it was dumber and costlier than that Pete


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    Time: 04:48:37 PM PST US
    From: "Vic" <vicw@vcn.com>
    Subject: Re: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/10
    Kolb Firestar II for sale - needs repair - have factory new parts for repair 503 engine and Chute included $4,500 before April 10 - Phoenix, AZ Vic at 623 628-5225 for details ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kolb-List Digest Server" <kolb-list@matronics.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:57 AM Subject: Kolb-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 03/08/10 > * > > ===========================av====================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Kolb-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Kolb-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-03-08&Archive=Kolb > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-03-08&Archive=Kolb > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kolb-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 03/08/10: 15 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 04:55 AM - Re: Allison Birthday flyin (EmailUser greg) > 2. 06:02 AM - Re: clipped wings (frank.goodnight) > 3. 07:33 AM - Leaving list (again) (lucien) > 4. 09:10 AM - Videos I took this Sunday (willuribe@AOL.COM) > 5. 12:03 PM - Re: Fuel Reserve and UL's (Jack B. Hart) > 6. 01:20 PM - Any opinions on Kiev props??? (albertakolbmk3) > 7. 03:07 PM - Re: New alternate engine on my MKIII (Jason Omelchuck) > 8. 03:15 PM - Re: New alternate engine on my MKIII (Jason Omelchuck) > 9. 03:52 PM - Re: Leaving list (again) (russ kinne) > 10. 04:52 PM - Re: Leaving list (again) (Ralph B) > 11. 05:31 PM - Re: Re: New alternate engine on my MKIII (Ellery > Batchelder Jr) > 12. 05:58 PM - Re: Videos I took this Sunday (Kip) > 13. 06:18 PM - Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (Richard Pike) > 14. 07:58 PM - Has anyone ever used an Arplast propeller? > (TheWanderingWench) > 15. 08:58 PM - Re: Has anyone ever used an Arplast propeller? (Robert > Laird) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:55:49 AM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Allison Birthday flyin > From: EmailUser greg <greg@skyelink.com> > > The state is virginia on the bay water frount flying, My big birthday > party > my name is Greg Allison, and the closest airport id is xaf tappahonock or > w79, w75 but the flyin is held at my field a 2000 ft grass strip to the > east of these airports in farnham va. > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Ellery Batchelder Jr > <elleryweld@aol.com>wrote: > >> Questions, I have a couple you could have answered ,What state ? what >> Part of that state ? and who is Allison? at least an Airport ID? or a >> web site url >> >> *Ellery Batchelder Jr.* >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: EmailUser greg <greg@skyelink.com> >> To: kolblist kolblist <kolb-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Sat, Mar 6, 2010 7:54 am >> Subject: Kolb-List: Allison Birthday flyin >> >> HELLO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!! >> 2nd annual Allison birthday flyin will be on july 9,10 2010 if you have >> any questions please call Greg at (804)450-6200 Hope to see you there. >> >> * >> >> ================================== >> rget=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List >> ================================== >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> ================================== >> _blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ================================== >> * >> >> * >> >> * >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:02:48 AM PST US > From: "frank.goodnight" <frank.goodnight@att.net> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: clipped wings > > > Hi all, > > Thanks to those that answered my post, I appreciate your time and > effort. Some of you answered off line with a longer and more involved > response than would have been of interest to the other people > on the list. The general conscience seems to be that it may be best to > put most of my effort into streamlining the plane and learn to use > what I am fortunate enough to have. Thats what I intend > to do , at least until I can gain enough experience to make an > informed decision of my own . Right now I'm just feeling my way. > > Frank > > > On Mar 7, 2010, at 8:43 PM, Robert Laird wrote: > >> Frank -- >> >> I'm not sure if you've read my story of my flight from Minnesota to >> Houston (http://www.texas-flyer.com/Minnesota/)... that's about the >> same distance (one-way) as from where you are to Monument Valley. >> Granted, I had a 582 behind me, but the Buccaneer is draggy as hell, >> and my average speed wasn't much more than what you get. That >> flight, along with a few others I took in ultralights, demonstrated >> that speed wasn't all that important. >> >> Will will probably adjust his speed to yours, so, no worries there. >> >> I think doing whatever you can to streamline your aircraft is ALWAYS a >> good idea, but clipping the wings just sounds like so much "let's see >> what happens when I do this!" kind of thinking. Not such a good way >> to proceed when dealing with aircraft. >> >> I can tell you first-hand, I never have air-speed on my mind, when I >> fly. Mainly I think about fuel and ground-speed, and how far to my >> next fuel stop. Ground speed can be dog slow, even if you have a fast >> plane, or fast, even if you have a slow plane. So, airspeed is >> secondary. Having a GPS helps ENORMOUSLY, especially an aviation GPS, >> so you can easily see how long it will take to get to the next >> airport. With that, and knowledge of your fuel, you can become >> confident that you have nothing to worry about (as long as the fan >> keeps turning!). >> >> There are many examples, besides myself, of people flying ultralights >> across the country. John Hauck is the exception, since he has tons of >> fuel onboard. Most pilots with his plane only carry about half of >> what he has. Regardless, the other pilots still make the xc's, just >> with a few more stops. >> >> And those stops are almost always interesting. You get to meet new >> people, see the countryside from ground-level, grab a bite to eat, >> something to drink, and it's a LOT quieter, too! ;-) So, just >> because you have to stop often, that's just part of the adventure, and >> nothing to be concerned about. >> >> The biggest obstacle to a fun and safe adventure is yourself. There >> have been plenty of times that my confidence lagged, my nerves got the >> better of me, or I was impatient at something, or aggravated over >> something else. But, as a rule, and on the whole, I plan my flight >> very carefully, and I'm always faithful to myself about one thing: >> don't hesitate to divert and/or land-out if I feel my safety is in >> jeopardy. After I have done so, I never felt like it was a bad idea, >> or regretted it; it's always been "well, it was probably a good thing, >> on the whole." >> >> And, as you've probably already felt with your shorter xc's, the >> feeling of accomplishment at the end of the trip is simply wonderful! >> >> So, I'm really not trying to talk you out of clipping your wings.... >> I'm really just trying to say, with or without clipped wings, you can >> have many successful xc adventures. Just be sure to enjoy the >> journey. The bonus to the MV trip is, at the end of the >> gettin'-there, there's a bunch of really nice people! >> >> -- Robert >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:08 PM, frank.goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net >> > wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Robert, >>> >>> Thanks for your response. Glad to get some input about the mental >>> side of X >>> country flying, as well as what might be the result to the physical >>> A/C if I >>> change the wings. >>> >>> My plans are to fly from Brownsville TX to MV this spring. I will >>> fly solo >>> from Brownsville to El Paso , then get with Willuribe and we will >>> fly the >>> rest of the way together. total trip should >>> be about 2500 miles. This will give me some experience flying X >>> country >>> solo, and with someone. Hopefully this will put me where I can make >>> a better >>> decision as to what I what to do. >>> As of now 400 miles was my longest trip ---no overnight--- looking >>> forward >>> to learning. >>> >>> Frank Goodnight >>> > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:33:16 AM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Leaving list (again) > From: "lucien" <lstavenhagen@hotmail.com> > > > Hi all, > Been offline with some other things going on for a bit and now doing some > catchup. > In case anyone is wondering where I might be: > > I've decided again to leave the list, but I want to be honest about why. I > initially > thought I didn't have a problem (as per my email with Larry C), but in > thinking > it over I really do. > > I found the "well rounded, all weather VFR pilot" exchange I had with John > Hauk > to be extremely disturbing. It took me a while to come to this conclusion > but > now having thought it through, I've decided it was enough of a problem for > me > that it's best I leave the list. This betrayed, to me, an attitude of > boldness > that indicates to me a lot of pushing of the limits and complacency > concerning > the risk of what we do in our airplanes. I consider this was a very bad > (and > dangerous) trait in a pilot and one that worries me greatly, especially > given > the reverence with which the attitude is regarded and propagated on this > list. > > I just wasn't trained that way and am just not a risk-taker of that type. > I'll > probably always continue to push back against it, which will I think only > increase > the signal/noise ratio on the list and just make a mess for everyone else. > > So in the interest of the list, I've (once again) decided to leave. I'm > still reachable > by PM (as I participate in other matronics lists still) in case of any > questions/issues, but I won't be participating on the list anymore. > > Sorry for the late response, good luck to everyone, > LS > > -------- > LS > Titan II SS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289645#289645 > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 09:10:56 AM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Videos I took this Sunday > From: willuribe@AOL.COM > > > Greetings Kolbs Fans, > > > I have not been keeping up with the list so to make up for it I posted som > e videos I took this Sunday. > Getting camera proficient on my air to air video taking for MV. > > > Regards, > Will Uribe > El Paso, Tx > FireStar II N4GU > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Jimandjaa#p/u/1/G4HQlpT7vHg > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Jimandjaa#p/u/2/Z5ti381_JLM > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Jimandjaa#p/u/3/xbxKAV0NMgM > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Jimandjaa#p/u/5/U9pF-ZtciBk > > > http://www.youtube.com/user/Jimandjaa#p/u/6/NWCTEZ-jt0Y > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 12:03:08 PM PST US > From: "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart@onlyinternet.net> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Fuel Reserve and UL's > > > From: chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com> >> > Jack getting to the point in my construction that I am sure I will finish > the Firefly. It was designed for the 447 but I am whondering about other > engines how about the Kawasaki 440? . What do you know about it?it would > be > easier for me to go with the 447 but the cost is getting out of hand . > thank > you for your time and Knowledge. >> > > Chris, > > I have no direct experience with the Kawasaki 440. When I lived in > southeast Missouri, I was a member of EAA Chapter 453 located at Painton, > MO. There was a fellow chapter member, Brian Williams, who purchased > Kawasaki engines from J-Bird and he seemed very pleased with them. He > liked > the engine performance and the low cost relative to a 447. He lives in > Cape Girardeau, MO, so you may be able to find a home telephone number for > him and give him a call. > > Brian Williams works as a mechanic at: > > World of Honda - Yamaha > 1728 N. Kingshighway > Cape Girardeau > > Phone: (573)334-4266 > E-mail: wohy@charterinternet.com > > He may be able to help you out. > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:20:08 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Any opinions on Kiev props??? > From: "albertakolbmk3" <cheriebraun@xplornet.com> > > > Just wondering if anyone out there is using Kiev prop, and what their > thoughts > are? > > -------- > Tony B. > > Kolb MKIII C > Rotax 582 > C Gearbox 3.00:1 > WD 66&quot; 3 Blade Prop > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289671#289671 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:07:06 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New alternate engine on my MKIII > From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com> > > > Hello All, > > I made a new video and posted it on youtube, below is the link > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Tlg9RMKx8 > > I now have a about 50 hours on the engine. I recently put that spiffy new > landing > gear on it and am having to learn how to land again. Many thanks to all > the > people who helped me with information on constructing a new gear. > > Regards > Jason > MKIII Yamaha Powered > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289687#289687 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:15:04 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New alternate engine on my MKIII > From: "Jason Omelchuck" <jason@trek-tech.com> > > >> BTW: I will be in SE Oregon next May and planning on a possible return >> flight from the Rock House to the Oregon Coast, then south through >> Northern >> California before turning back east to Alabama. Maybe we can hook up and >> I >> can see your project. >> >> john hauck >> mkIII >> Titus, Alabama > > > Hello John, > > I talked with Arty at our club meeting and she will keep me updated on the > timing > of you folks being at the rock house. It is highly unlikely that I would > be > able to convince the rest of my family that it is a good idea for me to > fly > away for 4 days, but I will see what I can do. > > Regards > Jason > MKIIIC > Portland OR > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289688#289688 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:52:33 PM PST US > From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com> > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Leaving list (again) > > > Lucien > Read your post twice and I still don't know what you're trying to > say. Is there anything WRONG with trying to be a "well rounded, all > weather VFR pilot"? > But I'm sorry you're leaving the List, as I'm sure you could learn a > lot there and would be a better and a safer pilot. > You couldn't find anyone with more XC experience than John H, nor > anyone more willing to share info. > Anyway, goodbye. > do not archive > > On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:32 AM, lucien wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> Been offline with some other things going on for a bit and now >> doing some catchup. In case anyone is wondering where I might be: >> >> I've decided again to leave the list, but I want to be honest about >> why. I initially thought I didn't have a problem (as per my email >> with Larry C), but in thinking it over I really do. >> >> I found the "well rounded, all weather VFR pilot" exchange I had >> with John Hauk to be extremely disturbing. It took me a while to >> come to this conclusion but now having thought it through, I've >> decided it was enough of a problem for me that it's best I leave >> the list. This betrayed, to me, an attitude of boldness that >> indicates to me a lot of pushing of the limits and complacency >> concerning the risk of what we do in our airplanes. I consider this >> was a very bad (and dangerous) trait in a pilot and one that >> worries me greatly, especially given the reverence with which the >> attitude is regarded and propagated on this list. >> >> I just wasn't trained that way and am just not a risk-taker of that >> type. I'll probably always continue to push back against it, which >> will I think only increase the signal/noise ratio on the list and >> just make a mess for everyone else. >> >> So in the interest of the list, I've (once again) decided to leave. >> I'm still reachable by PM (as I participate in other matronics >> lists still) in case of any questions/issues, but I won't be >> participating on the list anymore. >> >> Sorry for the late response, good luck to everyone, >> LS >> >> -------- >> LS >> Titan II SS >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289645#289645 >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:52:59 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Leaving list (again) > From: "Ralph B" <ul15@juno.com> > > > No sense leaving the list Lucien. Just ignore those things that might > offend you. > People say things on a computer that they wouldn't normally say to your > face. > Take it all in stride ... > > I enjoy your posts and hate to see you leave ... > > Ralph > > -------- > Ralph B > Original Firestar 447 > N91493 E-AB > 1000 hours > 23 years flying it > Kolbra 912UL > N20386 > 2 years flying it > 120 hrs > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289708#289708 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:31:24 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: New alternate engine on my MKIII > From: Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld@aol.com> > > > Jason > send some flying video that is very interesting looks like a great job fi > tting that engine to your plane have you recorded any performance numbers > fuel burn rate on it yet? > > > Ellery Batchelder Jr. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Omelchuck <jason@trek-tech.com> > Sent: Mon, Mar 8, 2010 6:06 pm > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: New alternate engine on my MKIII > > > Hello All, > I made a new video and posted it on youtube, below is the link > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Tlg9RMKx8 > I now have a about 50 hours on the engine. I recently put that spiffy new > > anding gear on it and am having to learn how to land again. Many thanks > to all > he people who helped me with information on constructing a new gear. > Regards > ason > KIII Yamaha Powered > > > ead this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289687#289687 > > > ======================= > ========== > -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - > -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse > -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, > -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > -= Photoshare, and much much more: > - > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > - > -======================= > ======================= > ========== > -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! > - > -= --> http://forums.matronics.com > - > -======================= > ======================= > ========== > -= - List Contribution Web Site - > -= Thank you for your generous support! > -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -======================= > ======================= > ========== > > > ________________________________ Message 12 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:58:44 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Videos I took this Sunday > From: "Kip" <klaurie@mindspring.com> > > > Cool... :D > > Thanks for sharing...! > > -------- > 2000 Firestar II > R503 DCDI > VLS 750 > > 2010 Waiex > Jabiru 3300 > > 1980 Quickie 1 > Electric? > Needs restoration! > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289727#289727 > > > ________________________________ Message 13 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:18:41 PM PST US > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? > From: "Richard Pike" <richard@bcchapel.org> > > > When we first started flying N582EF, the FSII with the 582, we were using > a 68" > two blade Ivo. Friend was building a Hawk Arrow with an HKS and a 3 blade > Kiev. > Figured that the HKS & the 582 were not too far apart to compare their > respective > props so borrowed the Kiev and tried it out. > A little noisier, top end about the same, a hair less climb, and at all > cruise > speeds, needed a bit more rpm. About as smooth as the Ivo. > > Worth what you paid for it. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289733#289733 > > > ________________________________ Message 14 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:58:37 PM PST US > From: TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> > Subject: Kolb-List: Has anyone ever used an Arplast propeller? > > Does anyone have any experience with the Arplast? Efficiency? Damage > tolera > nce?- > For example, my Ultraprop is fairly inefficient, but it can take numerous > n > icks and still fly safely until you get somewhere to do a repair job. And > i > t's fairly easy to repair - you don't need to buy a new blade for minor > dam > age. > My understanding is that the Arplast is made from glass, carbon and > epoxy - > specifically for -Rotax engines fitted with "A" or "B" gearboxes. > So - if you have any experience flying with an Arplast - what's your > opinio > n? - > Arty TrostSandy, Oregon > > www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm > =0A > =0A"Life's a daring adventure or nothing" > =0A Helen Keller > =0A > =0A"I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." > > --- On Mon, 3/8/10, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> wrote: > > From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> > Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? > > > When we first started flying N582EF, the FSII with the 582, we were using > a > 68" two blade Ivo. Friend was building a Hawk Arrow with an HKS and a 3 bl > ade Kiev. Figured that the HKS & the 582 were not too far apart to compare > their respective props so borrowed the Kiev and tried it out. > A little noisier, top end about the same, a hair less climb, and at all > cru > ise speeds, needed a bit more rpm. About as smooth as the Ivo.- > > Worth what you paid for it. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289733#289733 > > > le, List Admin. > > > ________________________________ Message 15 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:58:30 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Has anyone ever used an Arplast propeller? > From: Robert Laird <rlaird@cavediver.com> > > I had a 3-blade Arplast prop connected to a Rotax 503 DCDI engine on a > Rossi > trike, many years ago. At the time, I only had prior experience with a > Warp > Drive prop on a 447 pushing a Quicksilver. Compared to that, the Arplast > was like someone used magic to create it. It was strong, quiet and > resilient. The engine and prop were directly behind me, but I could > actually fly without any hearing protection, and it was tolerable. People > on the ground couldn't hear me at all, even at 600'AGL. > > Now, whether that translates to a Kolb or other fixed-wing, I can't say. > I've not seen one since I owned the Rossi. I never measured the thrust, > but it was a kick in the pants compared to the 447/WD combo. Granted, a > Rossi trike is WAY more aerodynamic than a Quicksilver (a barn door has > similar flying characteristics), so that is probably a lot of it, but I > was > very impressed. > > If you want to see a photo of the prop on the Rossi, let me know and I'll > forward it to you. > > -- Robert > > > On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:29 PM, TheWanderingWench < > thewanderingwench@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> Does anyone have any experience with the Arplast? Efficiency? Damage >> tolerance? >> >> For example, my Ultraprop is fairly inefficient, but it can take numerous >> nicks and still fly safely until you get somewhere to do a repair job. >> And >> it's fairly easy to repair - you don't need to buy a new blade for minor >> damage. >> >> My understanding is that the Arplast is made from glass, carbon and epoxy >> - specifically for Rotax engines fitted with "A" or "B" gearboxes. >> >> So - if you have any experience flying with an Arplast - what's your >> opinion? >> >> Arty Trost >> Sandy, Oregon >> >> www.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/uladventure2009.htm >> >> "Life's a daring adventure or nothing" >> Helen Keller >> >> "I refuse to tip toe through life just to arrive safely at death." >> >> --- On *Mon, 3/8/10, Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org>* wrote: >> >> >> From: Richard Pike <richard@bcchapel.org> >> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? >> To: kolb-list@matronics.com >> Date: Monday, March 8, 2010, 6:17 PM >> >> > >> >> When we first started flying N582EF, the FSII with the 582, we were using >> a >> 68" two blade Ivo. Friend was building a Hawk Arrow with an HKS and a 3 >> blade Kiev. Figured that the HKS & the 582 were not too far apart to >> compare >> their respective props so borrowed the Kiev and tried it out. >> A little noisier, top end about the same, a hair less climb, and at all >> cruise speeds, needed a bit more rpm. About as smooth as the Ivo. >> >> Worth what you paid for it. >> >> Richard Pike >> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List" --> >> <http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289733#289733> >> http====================== >> >> >> <http://forums.matronics.com> >> >> * >> >> * >> >> > > >


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    Time: 06:32:03 PM PST US
    From: HShack@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props???
    There are 3 running at our field. I run a 68" on my Firestar II w/ 503. I traded in a WD for it. There's one on a MK iii with 912S float plane with over 900 takeoffs. He also has a Highlander w/ 912S with a Kiev. Warps are very good- the strongest available, but strength isn't everything. The Kiev is lighter but still very strong. Light enough to run a spacer. I believe it's scimitar shape is more efficient than the WD. Seems a bit quieter too. Comes standard with bronze leading edge. Sexier too. Cost about the same. I guess you can tell I like 'em. In a message dated 3/8/2010 4:20:15 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cheriebraun@xplornet.com writes: Just wondering if anyone out there is using Kiev prop, and what their thoughts are?


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    Time: 07:39:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Not Kolb Related Jet Contrail, Check it out
    From: "Ralph B" <ul15@juno.com>
    ZZZZZ ..... It means the aircraft was on autopilot and the the pilots were snoozing again ... :) Ralph do not archive -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000 hours 23 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 2 years flying it 120 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289871#289871




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