---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/10/10: 22 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:54 AM - Re: IVO PROP (Thom Riddle) 2. 08:01 AM - Re: Re: IVO PROP (Jack B. Hart) 3. 08:21 AM - Re: IVO PROP (Thom Riddle) 4. 09:00 AM - Carb screws (David Kulp) 5. 10:15 AM - FW: Re: Fuel Reserve and UL's (mark.shimei) 6. 11:34 AM - Re: Carb screws (Richard Pike) 7. 11:38 AM - for long distance Kolbers.... with money (Thom Riddle) 8. 11:39 AM - for long distance Kolbers.... with money (Thom Riddle) 9. 02:12 PM - Re: Carb screws (Roger Lee) 10. 02:23 PM - IVO PROP (lhaggerty) 11. 02:37 PM - Re: IVO PROP (Thom Riddle) 12. 04:02 PM - could be that Homer knew best (frank.goodnight) 13. 04:42 PM - Re: could be that Homer knew best (Larry Cottrell) 14. 04:42 PM - Re: IVO PROP (Larry Cottrell) 15. 05:26 PM - Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (albertakolbmk3) 16. 05:40 PM - Re: IVO PROP (russ kinne) 17. 05:44 PM - Mk111Xtra912 (Thumb) 18. 06:54 PM - Re: Mk111Xtra912 (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 19. 07:48 PM - Re: Mk111Xtra912 (Thumb) 20. 08:55 PM - Re: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? (jerb) 21. 10:18 PM - short ride (robert bean) 22. 10:50 PM - Re: short ride (robert bean) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:55 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: IVO PROP From: "Thom Riddle" Pete, One of the unwritten rules on this list is you have to fess up to stupid acts, not because anyone wants to laugh at you but because we are all guilty of stupid acts. Sometimes we learn from others errors of judgement or lapse in thinking. That is why we are here. If you look back a few years you'll read about how I stupidly crashed my early FS.... STUPID STUPID STUPID ME. We are all guilty so just let us know what you did so you can be a bona fide member of the the stupid kolb drivers ASSociation. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory. - Friedrich Engels Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289889#289889 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:29 AM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: IVO PROP At 04:54 AM 3/10/10 -0800, you wrote: > >Pete, > >One of the unwritten rules on this list is you have to fess up to stupid acts, not because anyone wants to laugh at you but because we are all guilty of stupid acts. > Thom, I read a bit, and one of the things I came across was a pessimistic view of piloting. Basically it espoused that no flight was error free. The trick was to recognize the errors and to correct them before physical damage took place. Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:53 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: IVO PROP From: "Thom Riddle" Jack, You are correct, of course. I didn't have time to correct my obvious error before the inevitable consequences of the error took place. Had I another 5 seconds or so, I could probably have recovered from the error. I will not commit that particular error again, at least not under those circumstances. It was an expensive and somewhat painful lesson, but one that is indelibly recorded in my psyche. On the bright side, it could have been worse. For those who don't recall, I stalled the FS a couple of feet above the runway. That in itself would not have been too bad, but the left main gear "landed" in a deep pot-hole breaking off the axle weldment. The end of the gear leg dug in, and over I went inverted. Much damage to airframe and some to my shins. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory. - Friedrich Engels Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289913#289913 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:00:23 AM PST US From: David Kulp Subject: Kolb-List: Carb screws Folks, Quick question. Whenever I remove the cap on the carb and replace it, the absence of any star or lock washers of any type gets my attention. Is there any recommendation to use Locktite? I'd feel better knowing for sure! Dave Kulp Bethlehem, PA FireFly 11DMK ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:35 AM PST US From: "mark.shimei" Subject: Kolb-List: FW: Re: Fuel Reserve and UL's -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: Fuel Reserve and UL's I cruise my Ultrastar at 4400rpm,burn 2 gph at 50mph. Takeoff max RPM is 6000. EGT is just below 1200,CHT is under 290deg. Gauges were checked for accuracy,I thought they were off. Mark Also have a lot of time behind the Kawai 440A ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:34:32 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Carb screws From: "Richard Pike" Been flying with that type carb since 1983, none of those screws have come loose yet. Maybe the rubber boot isolates them from that sort of vibration. Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289933#289933 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:58 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: for long distance Kolbers.... with money From: "Thom Riddle" For you long distance Kolb flyers, if you have lots of extra money laying around. http://www.yikebike.com/site/gallery/video/yikebike-discovery-channel do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory. - Friedrich Engels Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289934#289934 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:33 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: for long distance Kolbers.... with money From: "Thom Riddle" For you long distance Kolb flyers, if you have lots of extra money laying around. http://www.yikebike.com/site/gallery/video/yikebike-discovery-channel do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory. - Friedrich Engels Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289935#289935 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:12:09 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Carb screws From: "Roger Lee" They do not get any Loctite. The only thing on the carb that gets a minute amount is the enricher circuit housing screws. Just a tad. -------- Roger Lee Tucson, Az. Light Sport Repairman - Maintenance Rated Rotax Repair Center 520-574-1080 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289952#289952 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:20 PM PST US From: "lhaggerty" Subject: Kolb-List: IVO PROP OK I will fess up. The Dumb thing I did was while working on the 447 Rotax that was giving me trouble, I had removed the Fire Fly from the trailer/hanger, un-folded the wings, removed the right wing. DSH { that means dumb shit Haggerty} left the left wing hanging on the universal joint connector aft of the wing, with the leading edge of the wing laying prone on the ground. DSH thought it would not be sucked into the prop when the engine started. Well it did get sucked into the prop and now I have to mortgage the house to pay for the damages. All that DSH had to do was remove one bolt holding the wing on, place the wing out of harms way, and every thing would have been fine. Pete [No I am not a blond]. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:37:26 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: IVO PROP From: "Thom Riddle" Thanks, Pete. I learned from your experience. You are now a member of the Stupid Kolb Flyers ASSociation. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory. - Friedrich Engels Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289956#289956 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:02:36 PM PST US From: "frank.goodnight" Subject: Kolb-List: could be that Homer knew best Hi all, I had been having trouble with the rollout after landing since installing the 36 in. crome molly gear legs , and large wheels I was always behind the airplane and was and was over controlling , just couldn't seem to get it right. I figured it had to get better with practice, Today was what I thought was the perfect day to practice X wind landings---8 to 10 mph direct X wind swinging about 20degrees ever 30 seconds or so , piece of cake before the gear change. I started crow hoping made 15 or 20 some of them were ragged enough that I was glad no one was watching. To make a long sad story shorter but not much happier , I had a really hard ground loop, bent both axels the right one 45 degrees down---wheels went out at the top-- because of the plane skipping sideways . didn't bend the cage or the gear, but hit the right wing on the ground. Don't know much damage , I do know the trailing edge spar has a 6in bow in it , trailing edge bent up,and there is loose fabric at the rear of the last two bays. Will talk with Bryan Melborn and Kolb tomorrow and see what they recommend for an inspection. Now believing That Homer knew what he was doing when he designed the gear so the plane would be easy to land , I have already put the gear back like it came from the factory. Hats off to Larry C and others that fly with the long gear. I think I'll stay stock for a while. Frank Goodnight Firestar 2--- with regular size gear legs ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:57 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: could be that Homer knew best Frank, Sorry that you had trouble with the gear legs. While I don't do too many landing on pavement, the ones that I have, had shown none of the tendencies that you describe at all. In fact the gear legs that I do use are quite forgiving and springy and I wouldn't trade back at all. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: frank.goodnight To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 4:59 PM Subject: Kolb-List: could be that Homer knew best Hi all, I had been having trouble with the rollout after landing since installing the 36 in. crome molly gear legs , and large wheels I was always behind the airplane and was and was over controlling , just couldn't seem to get it right. I figured it had to get better with practice, Today was what I thought was the perfect day to practice X wind landings---8 to 10 mph direct X wind swinging about 20degrees ever 30 seconds or so , piece of cake before the gear change. I started crow hoping made 15 or 20 some of them were ragged enough that I was glad no one was watching. To make a long sad story shorter but not much happier , I had a really hard ground loop, bent both axels the right one 45 degrees down---wheels went out at the top-- because of the plane skipping sideways . didn't bend the cage or the gear, but hit the right wing on the ground. Don't know much damage , I do know the trailing edge spar has a 6in bow in it , trailing edge bent up,and there is loose fabric at the rear of the last two bays. Will talk with Bryan Melborn and Kolb tomorrow and see what they recommend for an inspection. Now believing That Homer knew what he was doing when he designed the gear so the plane would be easy to land , I have already put the gear back like it came from the factory. Hats off to Larry C and others that fly with the long gear. I think I'll stay stock for a while. Frank Goodnight Firestar 2--- with regular size gear legs ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 03/10/10 07:33:00 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:58 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: IVO PROP Don't feel too bad, I have been a member of this ASSociation since 97 and have even reupped twice more. Thankfully not for the same reasons, but humbling none the less. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: lhaggerty To: kolb matronics Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 3:22 PM Subject: Kolb-List: IVO PROP OK I will fess up. The Dumb thing I did was while working on the 447 Rotax that was giving me trouble, I had removed the Fire Fly from the trailer/hanger, un-folded the wings, removed the right wing. DSH { that means dumb shit Haggerty} left the left wing hanging on the universal joint connector aft of the wing, with the leading edge of the wing laying prone on the ground. DSH thought it would not be sucked into the prop when the engine started. Well it did get sucked into the prop and now I have to mortgage the house to pay for the damages. All that DSH had to do was remove one bolt holding the wing on, place the wing out of harms way, and every thing would have been fine. Pete [No I am not a blond]. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 03/10/10 07:33:00 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:26:45 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? From: "albertakolbmk3" Thanks for all the responses guys. I just ordered a Kiev prop. I'll let you know what I think and what kind of performance I get with it. It won't be for a while because apparently they are quite booked up. I was told a month before it ships. -------- Tony B. Kolb MKIII C Rotax 582 C Gearbox 3.00:1 WD 66" 3 Blade Prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289975#289975 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:40:54 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: IVO PROP Pete LOTS of us (most?) have done dumb things. And survived; somehow. No shame, no regrets, but consider it a survivable learning experience. I'm glad that blondes don't get yet one more downer! Thank you for your honesty. Fair winds, Russ K do not archive On Mar 10, 2010, at 5:22 PM, lhaggerty wrote: > OK I will fess up. The Dumb thing I did was while working on the > 447 Rotax that was giving me trouble, I had removed the Fire Fly > from the trailer/hanger, un-folded the wings, removed the right > wing. DSH { that means dumb shit Haggerty} left the left wing > hanging on the universal joint connector aft of the wing, with the > leading edge of the wing laying prone on the ground. DSH thought it > would not be sucked into the prop when the engine started. Well it > did get sucked into the prop and now I have to mortgage the house > to pay for the damages. All that DSH had to do was remove one bolt > holding the wing on, place the wing out of harms way, and every > thing would have been fine. Pete [No I am not a blond]. > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:44:12 PM PST US From: "Thumb" Subject: Kolb-List: Mk111Xtra912 Hi Kolbers,,, I regret it but I am in position that I need to sell my MK111Xtra-912. I have discussed with some other builders and the price I have come up with is $25,000.00 for the plane, I also have a trailer that was built to haul the plane. The trailer has 1200 miles on it just from Mitch to Florida and I will sell both for $30.000.00. I will send pictures of the trailer by request and more pictures of the as well. Anyone interested contact me on the Kolb list or directly to me at bill_joe@bellsouth.net. Thanks,,,,Bill futrell ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:45 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk111Xtra912 From: Ellery Batchelder Jr I was looking at your Picture and noticed the other Kolb the Blue and Red one it has a new nest now thats the one I bought last July Well it is in Maine Getting a make over "almost finished though sorry to hear your selling your plane but it sure is nice looking, Good luck Ellery Batchelder Jr. N213 Mk3C -----Original Message----- From: Thumb Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:40 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Mk111Xtra912 Hi Kolbers,,, I regret it but I am in position that I need to sell my MK111Xtra-912. I have discussed with some other builders and the price I have come up with is $25,000.00 for the plane, I also have a trailer that was built to haul the plane. The trailer has 1200 miles on it just from Mitch to Florida and I will sell both for $30.000.00. I will send picture s of the trailer by request and more pictures of the as well. Anyone interested contact me on the Kolb list or directly to me at bi ll_joe@bellsouth.net. Thanks,,,,Bill futrell ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:21 PM PST US From: "Thumb" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk111Xtra912 Yes you are right Ellery, I helped Thom get it loaded for the trip up there. I really hate to get rid of it but for now I do unless something changes. It's got a 912 UL 80 Hp. and 3 blade Warp drive prop and I believe it has between 75 and 80 Hrs on the engine ' Not even broke in. Take Care Ellery Your friend Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Ellery Batchelder Jr To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 9:48 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk111Xtra912 I was looking at your Picture and noticed the other Kolb the Blue and Red one it has a new nest now thats the one I bought last July Well it is in Maine Getting a make over "almost finished though sorry to hear your selling your plane but it sure is nice looking, Good luck Ellery Batchelder Jr. N213 Mk3C -----Original Message----- From: Thumb To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 8:40 pm Subject: Kolb-List: Mk111Xtra912 Hi Kolbers,,, I regret it but I am in position that I need to sell my MK111Xtra-912. I have discussed with some other builders and the price I have come up with is $25,000.00 for the plane, I also have a trailer that was built to haul the plane. The trailer has 1200 miles on it just from Mitch to Florida and I will sell both for $30.000.00. I will send pictures of the trailer by request and more pictures of the as well. Anyone interested contact me on the Kolb list or directly to me at bill_joe@bellsouth.net. Thanks,,,,Bill futrell ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:55:12 PM PST US From: jerb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Any opinions on Kiev props??? Tony, If you can have things ready for the switch over, you could make a flight with the old prop, change over to the new prop and repeat the same flight pattern - if you have a GPS you could fly down a straight road for some distance and see what effect it has on your cruise speed and climb rate for each prop. About as close of comparison as your going to get. Since it is a new prop you might not be able to do a back to back comparison as you will need to swap the prop, adjust the pitch, and tweak it in. jerb ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 10:18:27 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: short ride Primitive Productions Presents... this was shot with an old VHS mounted on the wheelbarrow tire in the left seat. http://tinyurl.com/yjbje6t BB MkIII, suzuki ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:08 PM PST US From: robert bean Subject: Kolb-List: re: short ride > > > > > ----right seat. it's late :( > > On 11, Mar 2010, at 12:31 AM, robert bean wrote: > >> Primitive Productions Presents... this was shot with an old VHS mounted on the wheelbarrow tire in the left seat. >> http://tinyurl.com/yjbje6t >> >> BB >> MkIII, suzuki > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.