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1. 01:07 AM - Re: VG's............... (David Lucas)
2. 04:52 AM - Re: VG's............... (Richard Girard)
3. 05:03 AM - Flying the Kolb MkIIIC, addendum (Richard Girard)
4. 05:08 AM - Re: VG's............... (zeprep251@aol.com)
5. 06:34 AM - Tuesday evening flight video (cristalclear13)
6. 06:51 AM - Re: Tuesday evening flight video (william sullivan)
7. 07:06 AM - Re: Tuesday evening flight video (robert bean)
8. 01:35 PM - Re: Tuesday evening flight video (Thom Riddle)
9. 01:36 PM - Re: VG's............... (ces308)
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Subject: | Re: VG's............... |
> What do you make of that?
>
They're just doing their job keeping the airflow attached longer. Comes into play
in different phases of flight. The aircraft I fly, a Fokker 50 twin turbo
prop, even has VG's installed inside the inlet duct to the oil cooler which apparently
assists in maintaining the flow volume to the cooler by eliminating dead
air eddies in the duct which otherwise would have restricted the flow. Great
little gadgets !
David.
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Subject: | Re: VG's............... |
Nick, Once you start looking for them they do seem to be everywhere, they'r
e
a great aerodynamic fix for local flow problems. Most likely at that
location they help keep the airflow attached when the flaps are extended.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote:
> Hello Kolb VG users, and enablers,
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> I flew in a brand new Boeing 737 -900 a couple weeks back. I had a seat
> just behind the wing. The wing had the now standard invert droop tip on t
he
> end, But it also had eight VG=92s spacer out on the wing ahead of the fla
ps.
> What do you make of that?
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> All Ears,
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> Nick Cassara
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> Palmer, Alaska
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Subject: | Flying the Kolb MkIIIC, addendum |
There was a time I thought the wind only blew north and south here on the
Great Plains but no longer. I don't think I've flown more than once or twice
all winter when the wind was even close to coming down the runway. It has
given me lots of opportunities to test Zulu Delta's ability to slip.
One thing I've learned is that no matter the flap position, when you cross
the controls her nose comes up sharply. I can almost understand when the
wing is clean but you'd think with the strong nose down down moment when the
flaps are lowered, it would cancel out, but it doesn't. Doesn't seem to make
any difference whether left or right, either.
A caution when using full flaps. There appears to be some blanking of the
elevator which makes the aircraft more sensitive to local turblulence from
buildings and trees while slipping with flaps, but especially so with full
flaps. As a result I don't slip her to the deck anymore. Cross controlling
to maintain alignment with the runway in minor crosswinds it is less
noticeable, but get her all crossed up and hit the torn up air behind a
hangar or such and you best be on top of pitch control. There was one
approach in particular when I swear that just for a moment it felt like she
was going right over on her back. Got my attention PDQ.
In conclusion, if you're new to the aircraft, practice slipping at altitude
before you need to use it on final 'cause this ain't your daddy's Cessna.
Rick Girard
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Subject: | Re: VG's............... |
List,
I finally had the chance to fly a MK3C without VG's after flying mine w/VG
's for 2 years.I ain't tak'en em off.
G.Aman MK3C Jabiru 2200A 520 hrs
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From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, Mar 18, 2010 6:21 am
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: VG's...............
Nick, Once you start looking for them they do seem to be everywhere, they'
re a great aerodynamic fix for local flow problems. Most likely at that lo
cation they help keep the airflow attached when the flaps are extended.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:53 PM, Nick Cassara <nickc@mtaonline.net> wrote
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Hello Kolb VG users, and enablers,
I flew in a brand new Boeing 737 -900 a couple weeks back. Ihad a seat jus
t behind the wing. The wing had the now standard invert droop tipon the en
d, But it also had eight VG=99s spacer out on the wing ahead ofthe
flaps. What do you make of that?
All Ears,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
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Subject: | Tuesday evening flight video |
I love the longer daylight. Now I have time to go for a quick flight after work
on a nice evening, as it was Tuesday.
Don't have big mountains or ocean views to fly over, but have a view of the train
yard and a forest fire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdnNCubZA8Y
:D
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Cristal Waters
Kolb Mark II Twinstar
Rotax 503 DCSI
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Subject: | Re: Tuesday evening flight video |
Thanks, Cristal.- Keep them coming.
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Subject: | Re: Tuesday evening flight video |
Very nice. A traffic jam in Waycross?
BB
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On 18, Mar 2010, at 8:32 AM, cristalclear13 wrote:
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> I love the longer daylight. Now I have time to go for a quick flight after work
on a nice evening, as it was Tuesday.
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> Don't have big mountains or ocean views to fly over, but have a view of the train
yard and a forest fire.
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> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdnNCubZA8Y
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> Cristal Waters
> Kolb Mark II Twinstar
> Rotax 503 DCSI
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Subject: | Re: Tuesday evening flight video |
Thanks for the excellent video, Cristal. Until seeing this video it had not register
in my brain that your MkII has a duckbillish nose. Looks good and you had
a smooth as silk landing.
You sure have an abundance of runways there and not much wind to make a difference.
Have you ever flown through a forest fire smoke plume? I did it once and it was
pretty much what you would expect. A thermal with an aroma.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory.
- Friedrich Engels
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Subject: | Re: VG's............... |
I'm with you Gary ! One of the best things I did to the airplane ! I have the Air
Wave VG's on mine...94 on the wing and 64 on the tail.
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru 105.4 hrs
N327CS
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