---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/02/10: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:57 AM - Re: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC (John Hauck) 2. 08:46 AM - Re: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC (Ralph B) 3. 08:52 AM - Re: Re: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC (John Hauck) 4. 01:50 PM - Re: Re: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC (Jack B. Hart) 5. 03:45 PM - (russ kinne) 6. 06:06 PM - Re: (Jack B. Hart) 7. 06:42 PM - Re: (russ kinne) 8. 08:51 PM - Cheap Ivo Spinner (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:56 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC Gentlemen: I am sadden to report the following it is from todays news from JZI Charleston SC The Aircraft was a Mark III Xtra and John was a member of the local EAA Chapter and I last spoke with him a month ago, I will send more info when I get some, may he rest in peace. Sincerely, John T. Schmidt, CFI The Charleston County Coroner's office has not identified the pilot yet, but a spokesperson with the FAA identified the pilot as 70-year-old John Ratcliffe of Johns Island. ************ Morning Gang: I am sorry to hear of John Ratcliffe's accident. Never met John personally, but corresponded quite a bit with him when he was preparing to fly his new MKIIIx. RIP brother. http://www.wect.com/Global/story.asp?S=12241202 http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/apr/02/kit-built-plane-crashes-pilot-killed/ john hauck mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:36 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC From: "Ralph B" Sorry to hear this kind of news. It's always disturbing to hear when a pilot goes down. My condolences to his family and friends. Notice how the news distorts reporting: "The aircraft are prone to stall, there's no backup system in place, and at low altitudes the pilot doesn't have much time to recover, she said." In actuality, light aircraft are safe with a good safety record. Ralph -------- Ralph B Original Firestar 447 N91493 E-AB 1000 hours 23 years flying it Kolbra 912UL N20386 2 years flying it 120 hrs Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292778#292778 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:17 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC Notice how the news distorts reporting: "The aircraft are prone to stall, there's no backup system in place, and at low altitudes the pilot doesn't have much time to recover, she said." In actuality, light aircraft are safe with a good safety record. Ralph Ralph B/All: Yes, I noticed how the FAA rep really had some bad, uninformed things to say about our aircraft. john hauck Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:50:42 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Mark III xtra down, one fatality, JZI Johns Is, SC At 10:51 AM 4/2/10 -0500, you wrote: > John, I just checked out the jump. There has been time for comments to be added to the original article. The paper was pretty much taken to task for poor reporting and using unverified experts. Now may be a good time to back and check it out again. http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/apr/02/kit-built-plane-crashes-pilot-killed/ Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN > >Ralph B/All: > >Yes, I noticed how the FAA rep really had some bad, uninformed things to say >about our aircraft. > >john hauck >Titus, Alabama > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:51 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Kolb-List: Guys FYI I got sufficiently ticked off at the newspaper report of the recent fatal crash that I sent this to the newspaper Editor. May do some good, may not. Editor, Post and Courier: That writeup by "Bo Peterson " about the fatal crash of a homebuilt aircraft (NB: IT WAS NOT AN 'ULTRALIGHT') was a very poor piece of reporting. Your paper, and Mr Peterson, should hang your heads in shame. ACCURATE REPORTING IS NOT DIFFICULT! But you must resist the temptation to be dramatic and sensational, and at least try to be accurate. One disgusted pilot. do not archiove ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:02 PM PST US From: "Jack B. Hart" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: At 06:44 PM 4/2/10 -0400, russ kinne wrote: Russ, I complained to the local newspaper about what I thought were grievous errors of fact. I was told that they accurately report was said, but make no attempt to ascertain whether the information was accurate. So if they interview someone who is not an expert or experienced with the question subject matter, they will accurately report what was said. FWIW Jack B. Hart FF004 Winchester, IN >Guys >FYI I got sufficiently ticked off at the newspaper report of the >recent fatal crash that I sent this to the newspaper Editor. >May do some good, may not. > >Editor, Post and Courier: >That writeup by "Bo Peterson " about the fatal crash of a homebuilt >aircraft (NB: IT WAS NOT AN 'ULTRALIGHT') was a very poor piece of >reporting. >Your paper, and Mr Peterson, should hang your heads in shame. >ACCURATE REPORTING IS NOT DIFFICULT! >But you must resist the temptation to be dramatic and sensational, >and at least try to be accurate. >One disgusted pilot. > >do not archiove > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:04 PM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Jack I agree. But my point is that they should TRY to be accurate, which includes interviewing (hopefully) accurate people; not just whomever's nearby & wants to talk, and maybe get his name in the paper. This may well be a lost cause! Russ do not archieve. On Apr 2, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote: > > > At 06:44 PM 4/2/10 -0400, russ kinne wrote: > > Russ, > > I complained to the local newspaper about what I thought were grievous > errors of fact. I was told that they accurately report was said, but > make no attempt to ascertain whether the information was accurate. > So if > they interview someone who is not an expert or experienced with the > question > subject matter, they will accurately report what was said. > > FWIW > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > >> Guys >> FYI I got sufficiently ticked off at the newspaper report of the >> recent fatal crash that I sent this to the newspaper Editor. >> May do some good, may not. >> >> Editor, Post and Courier: >> That writeup by "Bo Peterson " about the fatal crash of a homebuilt >> aircraft (NB: IT WAS NOT AN 'ULTRALIGHT') was a very poor piece of >> reporting. >> Your paper, and Mr Peterson, should hang your heads in shame. >> ACCURATE REPORTING IS NOT DIFFICULT! >> But you must resist the temptation to be dramatic and sensational, >> and at least try to be accurate. >> One disgusted pilot. >> >> do not archiove >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:10 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Cheap Ivo Spinner From: "Richard Pike" This is a home made spinner that one of the guys in the Mountain Empire Sport Flyers made http://www.bcchapel.org/MESF/Index.html It is made from a 2006 Ford F250 van air filter. The guys who are using it claim it will stay in place even without a retaining screw (although they use one) - that it clips over the bolt heads on an Ivoprop. Have no idea how it fits on other props. I don't have one on the MKIII, so - no opinion. Worth what ya paid for it. Richard Pike MKIII N4230P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292855#292855 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0880_small_396.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0879_small_170.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.