---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/06/10: 19 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:59 AM - Re: Re: Seats for a MkIIIC (Richard Girard) 2. 05:04 AM - Re: Seats for a MkIIIC (rayw) 3. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: Seats for a MkIIIC (russ kinne) 4. 06:29 AM - Re: Seats for a MkIIIC (Thom Riddle) 5. 06:36 AM - Re: Seats for a MkIIIC (Thom Riddle) 6. 06:40 AM - Re: Sun & Fun (Jimmy Young) 7. 06:49 AM - Re: Seats for a MkIIIC (russ kinne) 8. 07:20 AM - Re: Re: Sun & Fun (frank goodnight) 9. 10:43 AM - Re: Seats for a MkIIIC...reply () 10. 12:41 PM - new Firefly now in Durham (Bob Kravis) 11. 01:20 PM - Re: new Firefly now in Durham (Herb) 12. 03:06 PM - 4:1 C box (Richard Pike) 13. 04:15 PM - Re: 4:1 C box (Richard Girard) 14. 04:32 PM - Re: 4:1 C box (John Hauck) 15. 04:56 PM - Re: 4:1 C box (Richard Pike) 16. 06:12 PM - Re: new Firefly now in Durham (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 17. 06:48 PM - Re: new Firefly now in Durham (Dana Hague) 18. 07:36 PM - Re: Re: 4:1 C box (Richard Girard) 19. 08:19 PM - Re: 4:1 C box (Richard Pike) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:59:35 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Seats for a MkIIIC From: Richard Girard Thanks, Jack. I always like looking at your work. Rick do not archive On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Jack B. Hart wrote: > > At 06:43 PM 4/5/10 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > Also know what ya mean about cutting off circulation to the leg. I fit > pretty good, no problems, but the Good Lookin' Old Poop needs a pad under > her leg over the front tube, the stock seat thing just doesn't fit right > for > her. > > > > Richard, & Richard, > > I like my full sling seat. I am short legged, and so at first I used a lot > of padding to move my self forward so that I could reach the rudder pedals. > Then I realized that, if I released the material from the lower rear cross > tube and hiked up the back it would form a true sling seat that would > automatically slide me forward. It almost worked too well, in that I > slipped too far forward, and I had to remember to push my self back in the > seat. > > Although I could reach the rudder pedals ok, I found that after an hour > flight, I staggered like a drunk upon arrival. The front cross piece was > cutting into the back of my legs and cutting off the circulation. To get > around this problem I made a cheek board and some padding to raise my > cheeks > a sufficient amount to get the pressure off my legs and to prevent the > problem. Currently, the whole works weighs a little over 1.5 pounds. > > A true sling seat has a tendency to let your rear end swing around a little > in rough air. I found a five point set belt and shoulder harness seems to > be > the answer to this problem, and it also prevents you from sliding forward > during the flight. > > How the cheek board was made can be seen at: > > http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly37.html > > FWIW > > Jack B. Hart FF004 > Winchester, IN > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:48 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Seats for a MkIIIC From: "rayw" How about a go-kart seat? I would think a lot lighter than those JEGS seats. http://www.bmikarts.com/shop/?shop=1&cat=176 Click for larger image Go Kart Bucket Seat Bucket Seat Complete with Seat Brackets and Hardware. Sold with or without seat cover. Seat cover also sold seperately. High Impact Nylon Seat. Reinforced Mounting Sockets Part #400511 (with Cover) $89.95 Part #400510 (no Cover)$59.95 Part #400509 (Cover Only) $42.95 SKU Number:400510 Price: $59.95 Seat Cover: Without Cover #400510 ($59.95)With Cover #400511 ($89.95)Cover Only #400509 ($42.95) 3250:=:59.95,3251:=:89.95,3569:=:42.95 Quantity: Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293163#293163 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:32 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Seats for a MkIIIC If you'll pardon a correction -- I think you mean the OTHER Good- Lookin' Old Poop do not archive On Apr 5, 2010, at 9:43 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > I know what ya mean about bending that tube. I replaced mine with > one that had a LOT more wall thickness. Cured that - > > Also know what ya mean about cutting off circulation to the leg. I > fit pretty good, no problems, but the Good Lookin' Old Poop needs a > pad under her leg over the front tube, the stock seat thing just > doesn't fit right for her. > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293135#293135 > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:29:41 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Seats for a MkIIIC From: "Thom Riddle" Rick, The builder of my Slingshot replaced the standard SS seat (not sling type) with a plastic molded seat with a somewhat padded slip cover. See attached photo. I think he scavenged it from one of those inexpensive chairs they used to use in a middle school cafeterias and removed the legs. He liked it better than the standard seat but I did not, so I put the original back in. The standard SS seat is a board with padding for the seat bottom and another board with padding for the seat back. They snugly fit inside the tubing frames for the seat bottom and the fold-forward seat back. This makes access to everything beneath and behind the seat very quick and easy. Can't do that with the after-market seat. Sorry I don't have photos of the standard seat. -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory. - Friedrich Engels Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293173#293173 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/cockpit_close_smaller_155.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:42 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Seats for a MkIIIC From: "Thom Riddle" Rick & Aaron, I forgot to mention that I owned and flew a Rans S6 until my partner broke it. The standard S6 seats are very comfortable and light weight with fold-forward seat back. I have no idea how costly they are but my guess is they won't be cheap unless you can find them from salvage. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 An ounce of action is worth a ton of theory. - Friedrich Engels Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293175#293175 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:53 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun & Fun From: "Jimmy Young" Kolbers- I plan to be at S&F on Thursday the 15th and look forward to seeing some of you there! -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293176#293176 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:49:49 AM PST US From: russ kinne Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seats for a MkIIIC Yes, I was a passenger with Gary, but I confess I didn't pay much attention to the seat. I'm just under 6 feet and 190 lbs, and the seat was fine, and comfortable. I was having too much fun flying the Kolb, and impressed with Gary's flying skills, to think about seats much. do not archive On Apr 5, 2010, at 8:23 PM, zeprep251@aol.com wrote: > Rick, > I'll take some pictures of the set up in my MK-3,not of my doing > but comfortable.I think Russ Kinne > was a passenger one time. > G.Aman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Girard > To: kolb-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2010 1:37 pm > Subject: Kolb-List: Seats for a MkIIIC > > Has anyone come up with a seat for the Mk IIIC that offer more > support than the sling seat? I'm getting cramps in my right thigh > and haven't been able to find a position that relieves cramp. I've > been looking at the molded seats at Jegs and thought I might as > well inquire of the forum members to see if anyone else has already > come up with better seating. I have the upholstery insert from Kolb > that velcros in but it doesn't offer anything but a little padding. > This is the seat I've been thinking about > > http://www.jegs.com/p/JEGS/JEGS-Pro-High-Back-Race-Seats-Seat- > Covers/763085/10002/-1 > > > Thanks, > Rick Girard > do not archive > > > =================================== > > ator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List > > =================================== > > ttp://forums.matronics.com > > =================================== > > ibution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > =================================== > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:14 AM PST US From: frank goodnight Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Sun & Fun Hi All, I'll be hanging around the Kolb tent on the 14th an till about noon on the 15th, Hope to meet lots of "Kolbers" Frank Goodnight fire star 2 Brownsville, TX ________________________________ From: Jimmy Young Sent: Tue, April 6, 2010 8:40:46 AM Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Sun & Fun Kolbers- I plan to be at S&F on Thursday the 15th and look forward to seeing some of you there! -------- Jimmy Young Missouri City, TX Kolb FS II/HKS 700 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293176#293176 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:43:17 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Seats for a MkIIIC...reply sorry no pictures ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:41:38 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: new Firefly now in Durham From: Bob Kravis Well it's been a while but the new plane is finally here. Last month I bought the blue & yellow FF that was in WA, and the FF trailer in IL (both on Barnstormers in Feb.). It was safely shipped to Paxton, IL and loaded onto the new trailer. I thank all the contributors with suggestions on preparing it for travel on an open trailer. A small band of brothers-of-the-air helped prep it and it made it back in fine shape. The only damage was a loose pitot tube mounting plate on the nose cone. We had quite a few people come over and look when we stopped to eat or get fuel and I guess someone bumped into it. We got a big roll of bubble wrap and covered the outsides of the wings and then used about a half a roll of stretch wrap (pallet wrap from Home Depot) and covered her up against the weather. I also secured one blade of the prop to the boom with an extension and some duct tape. We ran into lots of rain, some snow and some buffeting winds but she came through it all. Right now she sits under the carport on the trailer with a tarp over her. The local EAA Chapter 1114 was very helpful in finding some hangar space with one of its members. I need to get my own insurance (liability only) before taking it there and that is becoming a challenge. USUA insurance require the pilot hold their training registration and that the plane be registered with them. The training, as I read it, must be with one of their BFI's and there are none listed in NC. I am waiting for a call back from the EAA Insurance agent. Any other suggestions? Equally challenging is finding an instructor. I am trying to find a tailwheel instructor, CFI, for my 7 hours of dual time and I had hoped there would be one at every airport. Not the case! I want to complete the EAA UL Pilot Registration so I will need 7 hrs. dual and 3 hrs. supervised solo. I also want to get some dual time in a two seater Kolb but have not been able to locate one. I found some old posts searching for NC in the archives but if anybody knows any current owners please let me know. There is rumor of a 2 place Kolb in Hillsborough, NC and that would be ideal ... but no name or contact info could be found. :-( Bob ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:20:06 PM PST US From: Herb Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new Firefly now in Durham Jim Kmet is on the list...and I thought he did some training in his MkIII? Herb At 02:41 PM 4/6/2010, you wrote: >Well it's been a while but the new plane is finally here. Last >month I bought the blue & yellow FF that was in WA, and the FF >trailer in IL (both on Barnstormers in Feb.). It was safely shipped >to Paxton, IL and loaded onto the new trailer. I thank all the >contributors with suggestions on preparing it for travel on an open >trailer. A small band of brothers-of-the-air helped prep it and it >made it back in fine shape. The only damage was a loose pitot tube >mounting plate on the nose cone. We had quite a few people come >over and look when we stopped to eat or get fuel and I guess someone >bumped into it. > >We got a big roll of bubble wrap and covered the outsides of the >wings and then used about a half a roll of stretch wrap (pallet wrap >from Home Depot) and covered her up against the weather. I also >secured one blade of the prop to the boom with an extension and some >duct tape. We ran into lots of rain, some snow and some buffeting >winds but she came through it all. > >Right now she sits under the carport on the trailer with a tarp over >her. The local EAA Chapter 1114 was very helpful in finding some >hangar space with one of its members. I need to get my own >insurance (liability only) before taking it there and that is >becoming a challenge. USUA insurance require the pilot hold their >training registration and that the plane be registered with >them. The training, as I read it, must be with one of their BFI's >and there are none listed in NC. I am waiting for a call back from >the EAA Insurance agent. Any other suggestions? > >Equally challenging is finding an instructor. I am trying to find a >tailwheel instructor, CFI, for my 7 hours of dual time and I had >hoped there would be one at every airport. Not the case! I want to >complete the EAA UL Pilot Registration so I will need 7 hrs. dual >and 3 hrs. supervised solo. I also want to get some dual time in a >two seater Kolb but have not been able to locate one. I found some >old posts searching for NC in the archives but if anybody knows any >current owners please let me know. There is rumor of a 2 place Kolb >in Hillsborough, NC and that would be ideal ... but no name or >contact info could be found. :-( > >Bob > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:53 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: 4:1 C box From: "Richard Pike" Got a chance to pick up a 4:1 C box fairly reasonably, idea is to reduce prop speed ~ prop noise. Anybody on the list using one on a 582, and what sort of prop are you using? How do you like it? Don't want to waste money experimenting if somebody else has already established it doesn't work... Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293242#293242 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 4:1 C box From: Richard Girard I have a 4:1 gearset in a "C" box driving a 66" Warp Drive prop. I like it, seems to work good. People tell me it's relatively quiet for a 2 stroke. Even though my Mk III is a bit heavy at 545 lb. empty it climbs like the proverbial homesick angel. Flying single I cannot get a departure stall to break, it just bobs the nose a bit. Rick Girard do not archive On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > Got a chance to pick up a 4:1 C box fairly reasonably, idea is to reduce > prop speed ~ prop noise. Anybody on the list using one on a 582, and what > sort of prop are you using? > > How do you like it? > > Don't want to waste money experimenting if somebody else has already > established it doesn't work... > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293242#293242 > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:32:59 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: 4:1 C box Flying single I cannot get a departure stall to break, it just bobs the nose a bit. Rick Girard Rick G/Gang: That is normal performance for all models of Kolb aircraft. john hauck mkIII - 2,994.0 hours 912ULS - 424.8 hours Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:56:37 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 4:1 C box From: "Richard Pike" rickofudall wrote: > I have a 4:1 gearset in a "C" box driving a 66" Warp Drive prop. I like it, seems to work good. People tell me it's relatively quiet for a 2 stroke. Even though my Mk III is a bit heavy at 545 lb. empty it climbs like the proverbial homesick angel. Flying single I cannot get a departure stall to break, it just bobs the nose a bit. > > Rick Girard > do not archive > > [b] Two or three blade? What rpm at various cruise speeds? Max speed at what rpm? Thanks, Richard Pike Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293261#293261 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 06:12:54 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new Firefly now in Durham From: Ellery Batchelder Jr Great not to much damage for the long transport on an open trailer Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Kravis Sent: Tue, Apr 6, 2010 3:41 pm Subject: Kolb-List: new Firefly now in Durham Well it's been a while but the new plane is finally here. Last month I bo ught the blue & yellow FF that was in WA, and the FF trailer in IL (both on Barnstormers in Feb.). It was safely shipped to Paxton, IL and loaded onto the new trailer. I thank all the contributors with suggestions on preparing it for travel on an open trailer. A small band of brothers-of- the-air helped prep it and it made it back in fine shape. The only damage was a loose pitot tube mounting plate on the nose cone. We had quite a few people come over and look when we stopped to eat or get fuel and I gu ess someone bumped into it. We got a big roll of bubble wrap and covered the outsides of the wings and then used about a half a roll of stretch wrap (pallet wrap from Home Depo t) and covered her up against the weather. I also secured one blade of th e prop to the boom with an extension and some duct tape. We ran into lots of rain, some snow and some buffeting winds but she came through it all. Right now she sits under the carport on the trailer with a tarp over her. The local EAA Chapter 1114 was very helpful in finding some hangar space with one of its members. I need to get my own insurance (liability only) before taking it there and that is becoming a challenge. USUA insurance require the pilot hold their training registration and that the plane be registered with them. The training, as I read it, must be with one of th eir BFI's and there are none listed in NC. I am waiting for a call back from the EAA Insurance agent. Any other suggestions? Equally challenging is finding an instructor. I am trying to find a tailw heel instructor, CFI, for my 7 hours of dual time and I had hoped there wo uld be one at every airport. Not the case! I want to complete the EAA UL Pilot Registration so I will need 7 hrs. dual and 3 hrs. supervised solo. I also want to get some dual time in a two seater Kolb but have not been able to locate one. I found some old posts searching for NC in the archi ves but if anybody knows any current owners please let me know. There is rumor of a 2 place Kolb in Hillsborough, NC and that would be ideal ... but no name or contact info could be found. :-( Bob ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:04 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: new Firefly now in Durham At 03:41 PM 4/6/2010, Bob Kravis wrote: >...I need to get my own insurance (liability only) before taking it there >and that is becoming a challenge. USUA insurance require the pilot hold >their training registration and that the plane be registered with >them. The training, as I read it, must be with one of their BFI's and >there are none listed in NC... Naturally, the BFI program ended with the implementation of Sport Pilot. They'll accept an FAA pilot certificate, of course, and I get the impression that a solo signoff from a CFI is also acceptable. The people at First Flight Insurance (USUA's underwriter) are very helpful and can answer your questions. -Dana -- But do you trust the _government_ with semi-automatic assault rifles? ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 4:1 C box From: Richard Girard It's a three blade with straight blades and square tips. I get 82 IAS at 6200 RPM, but I run 62 IAS at 5200 mostly for economy and longevity and almost never go above 5600 RPM in level flight. Rick do not archive On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Richard Pike wrote: > > > rickofudall wrote: > > I have a 4:1 gearset in a "C" box driving a 66" Warp Drive prop. I like > it, seems to work good. People tell me it's relatively quiet for a 2 stroke. > Even though my Mk III is a bit heavy at 545 lb. empty it climbs like the > proverbial homesick angel. Flying single I cannot get a departure stall to > break, it just bobs the nose a bit. > > > > Rick Girard > > do not archive > > > > [b] > > > Two or three blade? What rpm at various cruise speeds? Max speed at what > rpm? > > Thanks, > Richard Pike > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293261#293261 > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:19:51 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 4:1 C box From: "Richard Pike" rickofudall wrote: > It's a three blade with straight blades and square tips. I get 82 IAS at 6200 RPM, but I run 62 IAS at 5200 mostly for economy and longevity and almost never go above 5600 RPM in level flight. > > Rick > > [b] Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted. Now All I have to do is see if I can change my 2 blade Ivo to a 3 blade and use it, or do I need to sell the Ivo and go to a 3 blade Warp. (Which will make John SO pleased... ) Richard Pike MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293301#293301 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.