---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/11/10: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:51 AM - Re: build pics (Ellery Batchelder Jr) 2. 03:54 AM - engine noise (pj.ladd) 3. 07:46 AM - Re: engine noise (Richard Girard) 4. 08:31 AM - Re: Looking for help to fix radio noise? (b young) 5. 10:44 AM - Re: Former Kolber Will Tatham (Richard & Martha Neilsen) 6. 02:51 PM - Re: engine noise (R. Hankins) 7. 05:20 PM - Re: Former Kolber Will Tatham (zeprep251@aol.com) 8. 05:36 PM - MkIII antenna location (Mike Welch) 9. 06:15 PM - Re: MkIII antenna location (John Hauck) 10. 07:02 PM - Re: MkIII antenna location (Dana Hague) 11. 07:07 PM - First Flight (cspoke) 12. 07:25 PM - Re: First Flight (robert bean) 13. 07:47 PM - Re: First Flight (John Hauck) 14. 08:04 PM - Re: MkIII antenna location (Richard Pike) 15. 08:34 PM - Re: First Flight (Richard & Martha Neilsen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: build pics From: Ellery Batchelder Jr Thal looks real great ,How does it fly? Ellery Batchelder Jr. -----Original Message----- From: clrprop Sent: Sat, Apr 10, 2010 9:36 pm Subject: Kolb-List: build pics Well, I can now say I've built a Kolb, .... sort of. ope you like. http://picasaweb.google.com/110121065651098215036/KolbBuildPics eath T ead this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293790#293790 ======================== =========== -= - The Kolb-List Email Forum - -= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse -= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, -= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, -= Photoshare, and much much more: - -= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - -= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! - -= --> http://forums.matronics.com - -======================== ======================== =========== -= - List Contribution Web Site - -= Thank you for your generous support! -= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. -= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution -======================== ======================== =========== ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:44 AM PST US From: "pj.ladd" Subject: Kolb-List: engine noise Hi All, following the chat here about supressing radio noise. I have been digging through the usual pile of `may come in handy one day` equipment and I found a block of plastic about (1" 3/4 X3/4"X1/2") with a wire protruding. The packet is marked `Suppression capacitor 4.7mFD for Alternators` The plastic block has a fairly substantial metal tongue with a hole in it. About quarter of an inch dia. The protruding wire is green and has, on the end, a metal tag of much thinner material , also with a hole through it. Apart from the fact that it obviously meant to be bolted to something at either end and that at a guess mFD means microfarads i am totally at a loss. Does this sound as though it might be what is needed to cut engine noise.? i have a 4 stroke Jabiru. If it will work , where do I fit it? As you may have guessed I am totally ignorant of electrical stuff, and most engineering if it comes to that. Help! Pat ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: engine noise From: Richard Girard Pat, It sounds awfully light. Rotax recommends 2000 micro farads, I use a 20000 micro farad on my Mk III based on the recommendations of the Aeroelectric connection which is also here on the Matronix forums. I'd recommend you do some research on the Aeroelectric Connection. Bob Nuckolls has been doing avionics for the major general aviation manufacturers here in Wichita, KS for decades. If anyone can explain the ins and outs of why a capacitor is necessary and what it does, it's him. Rick Girard do not archive On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 5:54 AM, pj.ladd wrote: > Hi All, > > following the chat here about supressing radio noise. > I have been digging through the usual pile of `may come in handy one day` > equipment and I found a block of plastic about (1" 3/4 X3/4"X1/2") with a > wire protruding. The packet is marked `Suppression capacitor 4.7mFD for > Alternators` > The plastic block has a fairly substantial metal tongue with a hole in it. > About quarter of an inch dia. > The protruding wire is green and has, on the end, a metal tag of much > thinner material , also with a hole through it. > > Apart from the fact that it obviously meant to be bolted to something at > either end and that at a guess mFD means microfarads i am totally at a loss. > > Does this sound as though it might be what is needed to cut engine noise.? > i have a 4 stroke Jabiru. If it will work , where do I fit it? > As you may have guessed I am totally ignorant of electrical stuff, and > most engineering if it comes to that. > Help! > > Pat > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:31:18 AM PST US From: "b young" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Looking for help to fix radio noise? Aslo, is this something everyone should do (that uses a radio), or do you think only on a "as needed" basis? Mike Welch MkIII Yes... everyone should consider it. It will smooth out the electrical noise in the system. One other thing that you can do is to take an old film canister, or pill bottle. Cut a small piece of tubing that will run from end to end, wrap a wire around the tubing, and slide it into the canister. This will work as a resistor to voltage spikes by preventing a spike from going straight through. And when there is a voltage drop, it will try and keep the electricity flowing more evenly. A lot of your high end car stereos will have these installed on the main power lead. Boyd Young ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:12 AM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Former Kolber Will Tatham I just looked at the video it is great. The MKIII at the end, is that Gary Aman's current plane? Rick Neilsen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Former Kolber Will Tatham > > Will used to be on this list several years ago, he sent me a link to a > Kolb video he and his wife made. Very nice, enjoy! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0kSwK60o0o > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293693#293693 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:51:22 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: engine noise From: "R. Hankins" Pat, That little "m" stand for "milli". What you have is a 4.7 milliFarad (4.7mFD) capacitor. This equates to 4700microFarads (4700FD), still shy of the 20,000FD recommended above. -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293881#293881 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:33 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Former Kolber Will Tatham From: zeprep251@aol.com Rick, Yes it is. G.Aman -----Original Message----- From: Richard & Martha Neilsen Sent: Sun, Apr 11, 2010 1:43 pm Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Former Kolber Will Tatham cast.net> I just looked at the video it is great. The MKIII at the end, is that Gary Aman's current plane? Rick Neilsen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Pike" Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 6:29 PM Subject: Kolb-List: Former Kolber Will Tatham > > Will used to be on this list several years ago, he sent me a link to a > Kolb video he and his wife made. Very nice, enjoy! > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0kSwK60o0o > > Richard Pike > MKIII N420P (420ldPoops) > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293693#293693 > > > > > > > > > > ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ======================== ============ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:36:22 PM PST US From: Mike Welch Subject: Kolb-List: MkIII antenna location Hi gang=2C I'm currious where those of you with aircraft radios located your antenna . I will be using an Icom A200 panel mount radio=2C and I'm pondering wher e the best place would be to locate the antenna. It seems like everywhere I think of=2C there is a logical reason NOT to p ut it there!! I have an idea where I might install it=2C but I wanted to hear where oth ers have put there's=2C first. Oh yeah. I made one of those dipole antennas that Scott shared with us. (actually=2C I made three. I figured it isn't that much trouble to make more than one=2C while I was at it.) Although I mentioned the MkIII in the heading=2C as long as you have a pe rmanent mount antenna on any Kolb airplane=2C I'd like to hear from you. ( even you lurkers....if your radio works good. If your radio doesn't work w ell=2C keep lurking :-) ) Mike Welch MkIII _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with H otmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:03 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MkIII antenna location Mike W/Gang: Was trying to keep this a secret, but will share it with you and the rest of the herd. On my Firestar and my MKIII the antenna is mounted under the nose pod with a 45 degree bend aft. Worked on the FS and continues to work on the MKIII. The antenna is a stainless steel whip ELT antenna. Back when I bought these antennas they could be had for about 15.00 each. Now they are 3 to 4 times that much. I upgraded from an A3 to an A6 ICOM, a little over 200.00, because the A6 had adjustable side tone volume. After installation, discovered the side tone was picking up all the cockpit noise and transmitting it as well. My transmissions were unreadable. After much frustration and experimentation, discovered if I turned the side tone volume completely off, and used the side tone on my intercom, my transmission problems were solved. As I get deafer I was also looking for more volume from the radio. The new A6 did the job. I can hear again. I also bought a mic muff cover from Oregon Aero. It is a foam muff with a snug fit naugahyde slip on cover. There is a small hole on each side for voice and ambient sound. Not sure if it is working or not because I did the no side tone volume and mic muff upgrade at the same time. James Tripp has some also. We plan to experiment with them to see if they, in fact, do reduce cockpit noise being picked up by the mic. john hauck mkIII Titus, Alabama I'm currious where those of you with aircraft radios located your antenna. Mike Welch MkIII ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:02:33 PM PST US From: Dana Hague Subject: Re: Kolb-List: MkIII antenna location At 08:35 PM 4/11/2010, Mike Welch wrote: > > I'm currious where those of you with aircraft radios located your > antenna. I will be using an Icom A200 panel mount radio, and I'm > pondering where the best place would be to locate the antenna. > It seems like everywhere I think of, there is a logical reason NOT to > put it there!! > > I have an idea where I might install it, but I wanted to hear where > others have put there's, first. I remoted my Icom A24's original rubber duck antenna, mounting it under the cockpit (between the UltraStar's stock fuel tanks) pointing straight down. I can hear everybody and others report they can hear me just fine. Haven't figured out what I'm going to do when I move change the tank configuration and put a cargo box where the current tanks are. -Dana -- A rolling stone .... kills worms ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:50 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: First Flight From: "cspoke" I flew my Mark 111 Xtra for the first time tonight. I need to do a few adjustments but it was a great flight. I plan to be at Sun n Fun Friday and Saturday. Hope to see some of you there... -------- Craig Spoke Mark 111 Xtra VW Redrive Lillian, AL cspoke@gulftel.com Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293904#293904 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/p4094693_582.jpg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:25:07 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First Flight From: robert bean congratulations. Tell us about the VW. BB MkIII suzuki On 11, Apr 2010, at 10:06 PM, cspoke wrote: > > I flew my Mark 111 Xtra for the first time tonight. I need to do a few adjustments but it was a great flight. I plan to be at Sun n Fun Friday and Saturday. Hope to see some of you there... > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mark 111 Xtra > VW Redrive > Lillian, AL > cspoke@gulftel.com > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293904#293904 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p4094693_582.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:02 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First Flight > I flew my Mark 111 Xtra for the first time tonight. I need to do a few adjustments but it was a great flight. I plan to be at Sun n Fun Friday and Saturday. Hope to see some of you there... > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mark 111 Xtra > VW Redrive > Lillian, AL Craig: Congrats, my friend. john hauck Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:01 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: MkIII antenna location From: "Richard Pike" This seems to work ok. http://www.bcchapel.org/pages/0003/pg9.htm Richard Pike MKIII N420p (420ldPoops) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293913#293913 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:34 PM PST US From: "Richard & Martha Neilsen" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: First Flight Craig Congratulations. We are going to want details on your flight. Bring photos of your plane to Sun-N-Fun. I'm heading for Sun-N-Fun some time in the next few days. We have some nasty weather popping up so it is all dependant on getting a break. It is looking like the weather is good after Tuesday for the rest of the week but the weather people are being challenged more than normal. Rick Neilsen Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC ----- Original Message ----- From: "cspoke" Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: Kolb-List: First Flight > > I flew my Mark 111 Xtra for the first time tonight. I need to do a few > adjustments but it was a great flight. I plan to be at Sun n Fun Friday > and Saturday. Hope to see some of you there... > > -------- > Craig Spoke > Mark 111 Xtra > VW Redrive > Lillian, AL > cspoke@gulftel.com > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293904#293904 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/p4094693_582.jpg > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.