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Wed 04/14/10


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 04:12 AM - Kolb production (william sullivan)
     2. 06:58 AM - MkIII antenna location (Mike Welch)
     3. 07:50 AM - Re: engine noise (b young)
     4. 07:56 AM - Re: MkIII antenna location (b young)
     5. 08:10 AM - Re: engine noise (william sullivan)
     6. 08:44 AM - Re: MkIII antenna location (Mike Welch)
     7. 02:35 PM - Re: Re: engine noise (b young)
     8. 02:38 PM - Fw: Allison birthday flyin (EmailUser greg)
     9. 03:29 PM - Re: MkIII antenna location (russ kinne)
    10. 10:01 PM - Fire Fly with everything you need. (Larry Cottrell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:12:22 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Kolb production
    - Does anyone have any idea of how many Kolbs have been-produced of eac h type, both by Old Kolb and New?- And about how many are still-under c onstruction?- Just curious. - - ------------------------- ------------------------ Bi ll Sullivan ------------------------- ------------------------ Wi ndsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ------------------------ FS 447 ------------------------- -------------------- - ------------------------- --


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    Time: 06:58:33 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: MkIII antenna location
    Boyd and Larry=2C Thanks for the detailed responses. All this information is helping me co me to a final decision where to locate it. As I said before=2C I'm leaning toward the fuselage=2C underneath and rea rward (below the front of the boomtube). This seems to be pretty close to where Richard Pike located his=2C and confirmed by Larry that it worked pre tty good. Presently=2C my plan is to build a dipole antenna=2C and make the groundp lane out of 1/2" wide copper foil strips=2C in the shape of an "X". The BN C bulkhead fitting will be centered on the X=2C where the 1/8" steel rod ma st is fastened. My final design seems to be a combination of a couple of other typical ai rcraft radio antenna designs. (mast of the dipole Scott showed us=2C groun dplane of common base station type design=2C etc.) Unless new and better i nfo comes along=2C this is what I'll likely go with. Locating the antenna at the top edge of the windscreen may not be a good location for me. I had planned on putting my Garmin 296 antenna there=2C a nd I understand there may be RF interference problems having two different antenna types near each other. Belly mount antenna seems to be the best ca ndidate=2C so far. Putting a dipole out on the wing's leading edge would be the easiest=2C a nd would probably work the best=2C but it would also look the dumbest=2C IM O. Thanks again to you guys that have responded to my request. You've been very helpful=2C and am helping me get this figured out. Mike Welch MkIII _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with H otmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid= PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5


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    Time: 07:50:04 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: engine noise
    If anyone can explain the ins and outs of why a capacitor is necessary and what it does, it's him. Rick Girard >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see that no one else has given this a go,,,, so I'll try!!! a capacitor is made up of 2 metal plates separated by a non conducting film,,, with 1 plate Pos and 1 plate Neg.. When attached to a voltage source that is not regulated ( moments of voltage spikes followed by moments when there is no power) when hit with a voltage spike works much like a battery to absorb the spike and the associated current, but it works a bit different. In a battery the voltage in the circuit has to rise in order for the excess of electrons to enter the battery and cause a chemical reaction ( charges the battery). But in a capacitor the current will flow into the plates before the voltage has time to peak. The capacitor stores the electrical charge much like a battery. But it acts much quicker. And during a moment when there is no power from the source, the capacitor gives up its stored energy to keep the current flowing smoothly. During this time the capacitor is partly discharged creating room to absorb the next spike. If I could use my plumbing experience .. And make an analogy that is all wet, it may paint a better mental picture. Suppose we have a garden hose shoved down an over flow pipe. If the hose is turned on to half speed, The amount of water in the overflow is equal to the water in the hose.. If someone starts to turn the hose faucet on, off, on, off, on, off, on, off. the water flow in the overflow will follow the surges. Now lets take the hose out of the overflow and place it in a tank with a overflow, with the hose at half speed the water in the tank will rise and the amount of water going down the overflow will be equal to the flow from the hose, now if someone starts to turn the hose on and off , the excess water in the tank will cause the level to rise slowly and it will slowly increase the amount of water in the overflow, and if you turn the hose off for a moment, the water in the tank will continue to run down the overflow at a slightly slower rate. All this time the outlet flow in the overflow will go up and down but it will be more constant. Now increase the size of the tank to say a swimming pool. ( a larger capacitor) and the surges in the overflow will be even less. Now how does this affect us in our kolbs. Lets compare the flow of water in the overflow to the volume of our radios. A constant volume is much easier to listen to. Told you the analogy was all wet. Do not archive. Boyd


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    Time: 07:56:52 AM PST US
    From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: MkIII antenna location
    Presently, my plan is to build a dipole antenna, and make the groundplane out of 1/2" wide copper foil strips, in the shape of an "X". The BNC bulkhead fitting will be centered on the X, where the 1/8" steel rod mast is fastened. Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike what you are describing is a quarter wave antenna with an X shaped ground plane. A di pole ( di meaning two) is a radiating element with one ground element usually mounted in a straight line, and in our case as vertical as possible. _________________ co _________________ where co is the coax feed point.


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    Time: 08:10:54 AM PST US
    From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
    Subject: Re: engine noise
    - Boyd- Does this mean that using an oversize capacitor won't hurt? - ------------------------- ----------------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ----------------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ----------------- FS 447


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    Time: 08:44:04 AM PST US
    From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7@hotmail.com>
    Subject: MkIII antenna location
    Boyd=2C Yup=2C you're right. I got too loose with my labels. I meant quarterwav e. On the aeroelectric list=2C a guy suggested checking out Bob Weir's (from Kitplanes fame)website. I am very familiar with Bob Weir's designs=2C and in fact=2C I built of the copper foil antennas already=2C back in 2001. I built it with the intention of using it on my MkIII=2C but then recently s ort of changed my mind. Now=2C I'm back to using it. It seems like it wil l be the best one for me=2C after all. Thanks to everyone for their help. Mike Welch From: by0ung@brigham.net Subject: RE: Kolb-List: MkIII antenna location Presently=2C my plan is to build a dipole antenna=2C and make the groundpla ne out of 1/2" wide copper foil strips=2C in the shape of an "X". The BNC bulkhead fitting will be centered on the X=2C where the 1/8" steel rod mast is fastened. Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike what you are describing is a quarter wave antenna with an X shaped gro und plane. A di pole ( di meaning two) is a radiating element with one ground element usually mounted in a straight line=2C and in our case as v ertical as possible. _________________ co _________________ where co is the coax feed point. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1


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    Time: 02:35:12 PM PST US
    From: "b young" <by0ung@brigham.net>
    Subject: Re: engine noise
    Boyd- Does this mean that using an oversize capacitor won't hurt? Bill Sullivan Windsor Locks, Ct. FS 447 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. No it will not hurt. The installation manual on the 912 says to install a 22,000 uf 25 volt capacitor between the positive output on the voltage regulator and ground. That should be enough to smooth out the power. if you went 40,000 uf it would it make it smother than smooth,, it wont hurt but it may not do any additional good., going too large should not hurt unless you are cramped for space and weight. If a person wanted he could install one near the voltage regulator and one near the radio. If you can only find a capacitor of half the desired amount,,, put two in parallel, that will cause the values to add. On the electrolytic type capacitors they are marked with a + and - make sure they are installed correctly. Two capacitors of the same rating mounted in series will give you the value of 1/2 of a single capacitor. Boyd Young


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    Time: 02:38:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Fwd: Allison birthday flyin
    From: EmailUser greg <greg@skyelink.com>
    ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: <Candyandtylern@aol.com> Subject: Re: Allison birthday flyin i got the e-mail of your. In a message dated 3/16/2010 8:04:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, greg@skyelink.com writes: Some people had problems opening last email maybe this one will work sorry ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: EmailUser greg <greg@skyelink.com> Subject: Allison birthday flyin Your invited to my second annual birthday fun fly weekend. Located at Ace Airfields in Farnham Va. Camping under the wing fun with food ,music & great fun with other pilots like yourselves. The fun starts on July 9-10. My airfield is located at GPS 76*36.071w & 37*56.500n close to the bay. The runway is a north< south orientation it is a 2000 ft grass strip with a line of trees on the west side of the field. When you approach from the north use left traffic from the south use right traffic. Stay over the trees on the west side of the field.I will be useing craf ch#12300 to help if needed. If you choose to drive use GPS king ln farnham va or give me a call (GREG) (804)450-6200 Hope you can attend.


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    Time: 03:29:23 PM PST US
    From: russ kinne <russkinne@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: MkIII antenna location
    Boyd Sorry, but now I am confused. As near VERTICAL as possible? do not archive On Apr 14, 2010, at 10:56 AM, b young wrote: > Presently, my plan is to build a dipole antenna, and make the > groundplane out of 1/2" wide copper foil strips, in the shape of an > "X". The BNC bulkhead fitting will be centered on the X, where the > 1/8" steel rod mast is fastened. > > Mike > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Mike what you are describing is a quarter wave antenna with an X > shaped ground plane. A di pole ( di meaning two) is a > radiating element with one ground element usually mounted in a > straight line, and in our case as vertical as possible. > > _________________ co _________________ > > where co is the coax feed point. > >


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    Time: 10:01:30 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell@fmtcblue.com>
    Subject: Fire Fly with everything you need.
    A friend of mine needs to sell his Fire Fly due to health reasons. Below is a description of what he has. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Trailer two year old Hallmark 26 foot, oversized, insulated, finished interior with cabinets, AC/DC lighting. Soft-Ride suspension, Low Miles. Excellent tires. Easy to heat with a Coleman Camp heater or electric bathroom heater. Firefly first flown two years ago. Wings built by Dennis Souder (Original Kolb) and dry-stored. Fuselage built as Oshkosh Display Demo -- serial number UL 001. Before the FF production series. Travis and Brian says no changes were made in the production. This is the original. No damage except a very small neat smooth patch on one wing. I dropped the wing in the wind. Icom Radio with PPT and Lynx Headset and charger. Lynx helmet. BRS-VLS chute. Two years since new. Black Max brakes. 400 X 6 tires, mag wheels. EIS, compass, ASI. Mounted in instrument pod that brings the panel close enough to easily reach while harnessed. Hardware for winter canopy IVO three-blade 140 hour engine with new rings. I didn't need rings, but I was encouraged by CPS to replace them. Recent teardown and de-carbon. (about four or five hours on de-carbon) Five and ten-gallon tank with frame fitted to match either. Recently ramp-checked as LEGAL Part 103, I have the papers. Rigged straight and level. I have flown at Reno-Stead a few times since I lost my strip, and I don't feel safe with the amount of traffic over there. On last flight it took almost forty minutes to get airborne. I must sell it or park it, as the nearest other alternate field is outside my affordable driving range. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- If you are interested contact him at WrenchWilson@aol.com Larry Cottrell Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address.




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