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1. 06:42 AM - Kolb Aircraft (John Hauck)
2. 06:55 AM - Re: Kolb Aircraft (william sullivan)
3. 07:21 AM - Re: Re: Kolb Aircraft (John Hauck)
4. 08:26 AM - Re: Kolb Aircraft (Mike Welch)
5. 08:53 AM - Firestar (william sullivan)
6. 10:08 AM - Re: Firestar (Dana Hague)
7. 10:12 AM - Hauck's Old Web Page (John Hauck)
8. 10:22 AM - Re: Kolb Aircraft (chris davis)
9. 10:33 AM - Re: Firestar (chris davis)
10. 11:35 AM - Re: Kolb Aircraft (Richard Neilsen)
11. 11:45 AM - Re: Firestar (Ralph B)
12. 12:49 PM - Lack of pilots (Lanny Fetterman)
13. 02:18 PM - Re: Kolb Aircraft (cspoke)
14. 02:19 PM - Re: Firestar (frank goodnight)
15. 03:46 PM - Re: Kolb Aircraft (Jack B. Hart)
16. 06:17 PM - Re: Lack of pilots (Ralph B)
17. 06:30 PM - Re: Kolb Aircraft (Ralph B)
18. 06:45 PM - Re: Re: Lack of pilots (daniel myers)
19. 07:20 PM - Re: Re: Kolb Aircraft (jim.baker@windstream.net)
20. 07:20 PM - Fw: Re: Lack of pilots (zeprep251@aol.com)
21. 07:38 PM - Re: Re: N-Number question (Duane Ransdell)
22. 07:57 PM - Re: Lack of pilots (Ralph B)
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Morning Folks:
After 12 years, The New Kolb Aircraft Company (TNK) no longer exist. It has
been replaced by Kolb Aircraft Company, Inc.
Bryan Milburn is the new owner of Kolb Aircraft. The new company will
operate out of Bryan's hanger at the former Chesnut Knolls Air Foundation
property.
Travis Brown is still the man in charge of Parts and Supplies, plus anything
else you can imagine.
Dennis Jackson is still welding airframes and making parts.
Kolb Aircraft's direction will be to support the aircraft designed by Homer
Kolb and the people that love to build and fly these airplanes.
I urge everyone to continue to support Kolb Aircraft. They need our
business.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
- John- Is the phone number still the same?
-
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------------ Bill Sullivan
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------------ Windsor Locks, Ct.
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------------ FS 447
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
John- Is the phone number still the same?
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
FS 447
Bill S/Gang:Yes, the phone number is the same now. I do not know if it
will change in the future or not.john hauckmkIIITitus, Alabama
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> Kolb Aircraft's direction will be to support the aircraft designed by Hom
er
> Kolb and the people that love to build and fly these airplanes.
> john hauck
> mkIII
> Titus=2C Alabama
John H=2C Travis=2C Bryan=2C etc.=2C
So that we can better understand what the company is all about=2C could s
omeone list the actual aircraft this new company will produce? (Firestar
=2C MkIII Xtra?? =2C=2C etc.) Or=2C did you actually mean like it sounds
=2C "support" only?
I assume they are no longer affiliated with the Kolb Sport=2C correct?
With a new owner=2C is there any anticipated change in the aircraft offer
ed for sale=2C or possibly any new designs Bryan has been contemplating?
Crap!! This economy sure is hard on airplane makers!
Mike Welch
MkIII
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- I need some opinions.- I have not decided whether or not to cover the
pod on the Firestar.- I know Kip just went with a mid-length windscreen,
and his videos don't show any problems with the airflow bothering the pilo
t.- Jack has a covered pod, and a short screen.- Dana just hangs out in
the open with the Ultrastar.- Visibility has to be great.- My limited
experience with a full enclosure tells me that it can be awful hot.- Any
opinions as to advantages or disadvantages would be appreciated, because th
e weather is starting to look good for outdoor Stits work.
-
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------------------ Bill Sullivan
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------------------ Windsor Locks, Ct.
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------------------ FS 447
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Bill, as you say the visibility can't be beat on mine, but it can get
chilly. Whether it's worth it is up to you. It's not worth it to add it
to mine but if it was already there... I don't know. I don't know if you
saw Stan's FS, but he has the short windshield, with a removable upper
section for winter. The back is still open, but he says it's quite
comfortable in cold weather.
-Dana
At 11:50 AM 5/5/2010, william sullivan wrote:
> I need some opinions. I have not decided whether or not to cover the
> pod on the Firestar. I know Kip just went with a mid-length windscreen,
> and his videos don't show any problems with the airflow bothering the
> pilot. Jack has a covered pod, and a short screen. Dana just hangs out
> in the open with the Ultrastar. Visibility has to be great. My limited
> experience with a full enclosure tells me that it can be awful hot. Any
> opinions as to advantages or disadvantages would be appreciated, because
> the weather is starting to look good for outdoor Stits work.
--
The early bird catches the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the
cheese.
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Subject: | Hauck's Old Web Page |
Hi Folks:
For those that have not seen this before, and may be interested in cross
country flights in Kolb aircraft, my Son, Mike, has initially uploaded this
old web page of my 1994 flight around the border of the US with a dog leg to
Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay, Alaska.
This is a copy of the articles in the EAA Experimenter Mag, May, June, July,
August 1995. The magazine articles are available to read on line at the EAA
web site.
This web page is not completely without a few bugs.
This is the first page:
http://webpages.charter.net/kawasaki1/Hauck/hauck94.htm
The four URLs at the bottom of the first page work. The others do not.
Below are the four URLs for each of four parts.
This is Part 1:
http://webpages.charter.net/kawasaki1/Hauck/hauck94a.htm
Part 2:
http://webpages.charter.net/kawasaki1/Hauck/hauck94b.htm
Part 3:
http://webpages.charter.net/kawasaki1/Hauck/hauck94c.htm
Part 4:
http://webpages.charter.net/kawasaki1/Hauck/hauck94d.htm
john hauck
MKIII
Titus, AL
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
John/Kolbers, Too bad to hear TNK going by the wayside but good to hear Bri
an Milburn is taking over He is a good man and I wish him the best . One of
the main reasons I didnt sue TNK after my crash was to not be a part of th
em going down , the state- of the economy and the"Sport Pilot" impact on
the ultralight world has been hard on the Ultralight companies!=0A-- If
the FAA had just raised the weight of an Ultralight 100 lbs there would st
ill be a lot going on. just my 2centsChris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider
Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________
__________________=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-lis
t@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, May 5, 2010 9:13:05 AM=0ASubject: Kolb-List: K
ore.rr.com>=0A=0AMorning Folks:=0A=0AAfter 12 years, The New Kolb Aircraft
Company (TNK) no longer exist.- It has =0Abeen replaced by Kolb Aircraft
Company, Inc.=0A=0ABryan Milburn is the new owner of Kolb Aircraft.- The
new company will =0Aoperate out of Bryan's hanger at the former Chesnut Kno
lls Air Foundation =0Aproperty.=0A=0ATravis Brown is still the man in charg
e of Parts and Supplies, plus anything =0Aelse you can imagine.=0A=0ADennis
Jackson is still welding airframes and making parts.=0A=0AKolb Aircraft's
direction will be to support the aircraft designed by Homer =0AKolb and the
people that love to build and fly these airplanes.=0A=0AI urge everyone to
continue to support Kolb Aircraft.- They need our =0Abusiness.=0A=0Ajohn
====0A=0A=0A
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Bill, I had a full enclosure on my KXP with a lexan rear cockpit enclosure
that I would put on in the winter and take off as soon as the temp got abov
e 50 at 1000 ft and I was never too hot I also had a door on each side and
I took both of them off in the warmest part of the summer.I dont know wheth
er you have the 2 alum tubes and a hinge on each side or not but to-me th
at is the way- to go otherwise with a short windshield =0Ahere in New Eng
land I would have to wear a helmet with full shield -all year and I dont
care to wear a helmet when I fly!Chris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pil
ot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________
______________=0AFrom: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>=0ATo: ko
lb list <kolb-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Wed, May 5, 2010 11:50:06 AM=0ASu
bject: Kolb-List: Firestar=0A=0A=0A- I need some opinions.- I have not
decided whether or not to cover the pod on the Firestar.- I know Kip just
went with a mid-length windscreen, and his videos don't show any problems
with the airflow bothering the pilot.- Jack has a covered pod, and a shor
t screen.- Dana just hangs out in the open with the Ultrastar.- Visibil
ity has to be great.- My limited experience with a full enclosure tells m
e that it can be awful hot.- Any opinions as to advantages or disadvantag
es would be appreciated, because the weather is starting to look good for o
utdoor Stits work.=0A=0A-----------------
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- Bill Sullivan=0A------------------
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Windsor Locks, Ct.=0A-----------------
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
Chris
When the FAA introduced part 103 we thought the FAA was being overly
generous. Before that the requirement was that ULs had to be foot
launchable. Most planes weighed 100-150lbs. I had a Weedhopper at the time
and they had hired a weight lifting runner to prove it was capable of foot
launching but I always used the wheels.
Nothing is as simple as adding to the weight limit would have helped. The
television show (what was it 60 minutes?) had as much to do with killing ULs
as anything.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW powered MKIIIC
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 1:19 PM, chris davis <capedavis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> John/Kolbers, Too bad to hear TNK going by the wayside but good to hear
> Brian Milburn is taking over He is a good man and I wish him the best . One
> of the main reasons I didnt sue TNK after my crash was to not be a part of
> them going down , the state of the economy and the"Sport Pilot" impact on
> the ultralight world has been hard on the Ultralight companies!
> If the FAA had just raised the weight of an Ultralight 100 lbs there
> would still be a lot going on. just my 2cents
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Wed, May 5, 2010 9:13:05 AM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Kolb Aircraft
>
>
> Morning Folks:
>
> After 12 years, The New Kolb Aircraft Company (TNK) no longer exist. It
> has
> been replaced by Kolb Aircraft Company, Inc.
>
> Bryan Milburn is the new owner of Kolb Aircraft. The new company will
> operate out of Bryan's hanger at the former Chesnut Knolls Air Foundation
> property.
>
> Travis Brown is still the man in charge of Parts and Supplies, plus
> anything
> else you can imagine.
>
> Dennis Jackson is still welding airframes and making parts.
>
> Kolb Aircraft's direction will be to support the aircraft designed by Homer
>
> Kolb and the people that love to build and fly these airplanes.
>
> I urge everyone to continue to support Kolb Aircraft. They need our
> business.<= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List
> Contribution Web Site -
>
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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Bill, I decided not to cover the rear cage, but cover the front part. It has several
advantages. It's lighter (that was a concern in the 103 days), it flies
faster uncovered (covering around the cage in back of the seat acts like a parachute
w/o a full enclosure), and lastly I can remove/inspect the tank/fuel lines
easier.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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When I started flying in 1983 there were three of us flying out of
Numidia International. (small grass strip) As of today there are
still three of us flying from there. Over the years one or two people
have flown out of there for a year or two, then they just fade away.
There has never been any new, young, blood show up, all older pilots.
There`s just not much interest from young people around here, that
want to learn to fly. I don`t know why that is, but it is. I`m 59
years old, and I`m the young pup at our air strip. How is the
enthusiasm other places? Lanny N598LF
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
Best of luck to Bryan, Travis, Dennis and all. These are great people leading a
great company.
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Craig Spoke
Mark 111 Xtra
VW Redrive
Lillian, AL
cspoke@gulftel.com
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Hi Bill,
My firestar has the wings and tail covered the pod is all exposed. I like it
that way but I have never flown a covered firestar
so don't have any way to compare . The wind dosen't bother me , but again the winters
in Brownsville are mild. I did put on a
nose bowl and a shorty windscreen this winter. Too much down force on the nose
at cruise I took them off for the upcoming
flt. to MV. I don't know if the pod not being covered had anything to do with it.
I don't intend to cover , and if I were building
another I wouldn;t consider covering the pod. one huge advantages of an open pod
is ease of access to anything that needs working on.
and it just has to be more fun to fly.
Frank Goodnight
Firestar2--150 hrs
Brownsville, TX
________________________________
From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan@att.net>
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 10:50:06 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Firestar
I need some opinions. I have not decided whether or not to cover the pod on
the Firestar. I know Kip just went with a mid-length windscreen, and his videos
don't show any problems with the airflow bothering the pilot. Jack has a covered
pod, and a short screen. Dana just hangs out in the open with the Ultrastar.
Visibility has to be great. My limited experience with a full enclosure
tells me that it can be awful hot. Any opinions as to advantages or disadvantages
would be appreciated, because the weather is starting to look good for
outdoor Stits work.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
FS 447
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
From: Richard Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>
>
...................
Nothing is as simple as adding to the weight limit would have helped. The
television show (what was it 60 minutes?) had as much to do with killing ULs
as anything.
>
Rick,
The EAA has to take some of the blame. To be fair, they were involved in
103-7 but have gone silent. The EAA has changed from a build from scratch
that get you in the air aircraft for low dollars into supporting big bucks
sport aircraft, major antique restorations, and very expensive speedy kit
built aircraft.
Sorry, you ran my bell.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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Subject: | Re: Lack of pilots |
I've noticed the same thing in recent years. I think the young guys are more into
video games and computers. If they want to fly, there is a game or simulation
that would satisfy that desire without having to spend money on a plane or
lessons. Cell phones and ipods seem to satisfy everything they need.
Ralph
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
Some of the blame is our time limited society. Most everything is ready-made for
instant gratification and reward. Nobody seems to have time for things that
take some effort to build. Kids want things ready to use. Install batteries and
away we go. If it doesn't work, take it back to the store.
I built my Firestar 23 years ago, but I bought my Kolbra ready to fly. I don't
think I could match Mark German's work to build that plane. In some cases, buy
and fly makes a lot of sense.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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Subject: | Re: Lack of pilots |
Guys=2C here in central Florida=2C there are many young pilots. I went to h
ighschool where I met 4 other aviation enthusiasts. All 5 of us obtained ou
r pilots licenses by our senior year. As for me=2C I am only 20 years old a
nd have owned two aircraft. My first plane was a FSII amphib and my current
is a SeaRey amphibian. In the last 2 years=2C I have gone from student pil
ot=2C to SeaRey Technical Administrator=2C to an aircraft owner=2C to an ai
rcraft broker specializing in amphibious aircraft. As for my friends=2C we
still "hang out" and fly on a daily and weekly basis. The SeaRey community
loves us youngsters (I think). Anyways=2C maybe we need to send some youngs
ters your way!
Regards=2C
Daniel Myers
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lack of pilots
> From: ul15@juno.com
> Date: Wed=2C 5 May 2010 18:17:21 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
>
> I've noticed the same thing in recent years. I think the young guys are m
ore into video games and computers. If they want to fly=2C there is a game
or simulation that would satisfy that desire without having to spend money
on a plane or lessons. Cell phones and ipods seem to satisfy everything the
y need.
>
> Ralph
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000 hours
> 23 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 2 years flying it
> 120 hrs
>
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296885#296885
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Subject: | Re: Kolb Aircraft |
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> Some of the blame is our time limited society. Most everything is
> ready-made for instant gratification and reward.
Damn straight. A good example is the Almost Ready to Fly models you see now in
hobby
magazines. $300-500 for some. Kits? Build it yourself? Ever wonder why we're not
cranking
out as many engineers as we used to?
Damn, I'm getting old.....
Jim Baker
Elmore City, OK
580.788.2779
405. 426.5377 cell
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Subject: | Re: Lack of pilots |
Gang,
Ever have someone hanging around the strip looking at you while you unfold
your Kolb? Take the first step,say hi,engage them in a little conversatio
n and if you are confident enough in your piloting skills,offer them a rid
e.At the fly-ins,let the parents put the kid in the seat and take their pi
ctures.A second or 2 to tell the kids about how fragile the fabric is and
how to handle the controls is all it takes.We all can be ambassadors for
our sport if your not too picky to let them touch it.And don't start with
me about liability, you already told them that the most dangerous part of
a flight is the drive to the airport.Now impress them with a smooth fligh
t,explaining every move you make before you make it.Let them handle the co
ntrols if they are comfortable enough. You can get a lot of satisfaction
giving someone their first ride,and sometimes all it takes is a taste,rem
ember?
G.Aman
-----Original Message-----
From: daniel myers <h20maule@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 9:43 pm
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Re: Lack of pilots
Guys, here in central Florida, there are many young pilots. I went to high
school where I met 4 other aviation enthusiasts. All 5 of us obtained our
pilots licenses by our senior year. As for me, I am only 20 years old and
have owned two aircraft. My first plane was a FSII amphib and my current
is a SeaRey amphibian. In the last 2 years, I have gone from student pilo
t, to SeaRey Technical Administrator, to an aircraft owner, to an aircraft
broker specializing in amphibious aircraft. As for my friends, we still
"hang out" and fly on a daily and weekly basis. The SeaRey community love
s us youngsters (I think). Anyways, maybe we need to send some youngsters
your way!
Regards,
Daniel Myers
> Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Lack of pilots
> From: ul15@juno.com
> Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 18:17:21 -0700
> To: kolb-list@matronics.com
>
>
> I've noticed the same thing in recent years. I think the young guys are
more into video games and computers. If they want to fly, there is a game
or simulation that would satisfy that desire without having to spend mone
y on a plane or lessons. Cell phones and ipods seem to satisfy everything
they need.
>
> Ralph
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000 hours
> 23 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 2 years flying it
> 120 hrs
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=296885#296885
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Subject: | Re: N-Number question |
I don't recall the aircraft type, but there was a Sport Plane of some sort
for sale on eBay about a year ago. It had an N number on it, but it was
fictitious. The owner claimed he was selling it because he got checked while
flying into Sun-n-Fun and had to pay the fine. I guess they must have really
made someone mad.
Duane
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Richard Neilsen <neilsenrm@gmail.com>wrote:
> I have flown to Oshkosh four times and Sun-N-Fun once and have never heard
> of anyone being checked. In fact I tried to get the FAA to crack down on the
> Titan Mustang guys at Sun-N-fun two years ago but they wouldn't do anything
> other than agree something should be done. Our John H has a knack getting
> the FAA types worked up at Sun-N-Fun but they have always backed down.
>
> Generally they are so happy that we fly in that they aren't about to do
> anything to discourage our participation. Seems like besides John and I
> there were only two other pilots camping with their planes at the UL/LSA
> strip at Sun-N-Fun this year.
> Rick Neilsen
> Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 6:15 PM, Dana Hague <d-m-hague@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> At 12:49 PM 5/3/2010, GeoB wrote:
>>
>> Let me address this to everyone; Has ANY of us, in our local area, been
>> aware of anyone being cited for noncompliance? I'm not interested in some
>> newbie trying to fly a two-place trainer as an UL, but planes that look
>> mostly UL-like. Maybe they are a tad heavy, or don't have the stall
>> characteristics, etc.
>>
>>
>> I've heard of nothing local.
>>
>> I've heard of two, elsewhere. One is a story floating around on the
>> internet, a guy flying a 2 place which he was in the middle of the ELSA
>> transition but hadn't received the paperwork yet, and an FAA guy who was on
>> the field to look at an air charter operation, but they didn't show. Wasn't
>> cited, just told not to fly it again until it was legal.
>>
>> The other one was the guy who recently wrote an article in Ultraflight
>> magazine, claiming he'd been ramp checked five times with his PPC. The
>> story sounded far fetched to me.
>>
>> The real risk is if you piss somebody off, or have an emergency landing,
>> and they decide to investigate. I don't think I'd want to fly an overweight
>> UL at Sun-N-Fun or Oshkosh, though...
>>
>> -Dana
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Subject: | Re: Lack of pilots |
Good to hear from guys like you Dan! There is hope for our young people ...
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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