---------------------------------------------------------- Kolb-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/09/10: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:09 AM - Late afternoon flight NZ () 2. 03:54 AM - Re: Major Bucket List Item Accomplished (Thom Riddle) 3. 05:04 AM - Re: Late afternoon flight NZ (Fran Losey) 4. 05:59 AM - Re: Late afternoon flight NZ (John Hauck) 5. 06:40 AM - Cross Country Flying Weather Out West (John Hauck) 6. 02:30 PM - Re: Cross Country Flying Weather Out West (R. Hankins) 7. 02:59 PM - Re: 180 turn back to the runway video (R. Hankins) 8. 03:10 PM - warp drive bolt torque? (Jerry Deckard) 9. 03:51 PM - Re: warp drive bolt torque (william sullivan) 10. 04:00 PM - Re: Re: 180 turn back to the runway video (John Hauck) 11. 04:16 PM - 912 installation (albertakolbmk3) 12. 05:09 PM - Re: Late afternoon flight NZ (b young) 13. 05:33 PM - Re: warp drive bolt torque? (Richard Girard) 14. 06:05 PM - Re: warp drive bolt torque? (Larry Cottrell) 15. 06:40 PM - Re: warp drive bolt torque? (Jerry Deckard) 16. 08:29 PM - Prop clearance (Greg) 17. 11:22 PM - Re: Late afternoon flight NZ () 18. 11:32 PM - Re: Late afternoon flight NZ () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:09:05 AM PST US From: Subject: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ Hope I reduced these enough not to give anyone problems opening them. A sunset flight on the Pacific coast today. Nice flying conditions. Very cool 8 deg C . Inversion fog about 6 ft deep on the runway when landing. Summer is gone . Downunder MK111c Regards to all Tony ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:51 AM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Major Bucket List Item Accomplished From: "Thom Riddle" Gene, Thanks for the Ooops! report on your FireFly. Sure am glad you made it down safely. That could have been a bucket-kicker incident. Which airfield in Cincy do you fly from? The reason I ask is that I spent much of my childhood watching airplanes take-off and land at Lunken whenever I could get my parents to drive me there to watch. I grew up in Clermont County near Amelia, less than 1 mile from where Sporty's is now located. This was long before Clermont County airport was built. do not archive -------- Thom Riddle Buffalo, NY (9G0) Kolb Slingshot SS-021 Jabiru 2200A #1574 Tennessee Prop 64x32 Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell. - Edward Abbey Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297166#297166 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:10 AM PST US From: Fran Losey Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ On 5/9/2010 6:04 AM, aoldman@xtra.co.nz wrote: > Hope I reduced these enough not to give anyone problems opening them. > A sunset flight on the Pacific coast today. > Nice flying conditions. Very cool 8 deg C . Inversion fog about 6 ft > deep on the runway when landing. Summer is gone .. > Downunder > MK111c > Regards to all Tony Tony, looks like a great flying day! I am heading down under (Sydney) on business in July, I am hoping to get a day to grab a CFI and rental plane and do just what you did, fly the Coastline and see AU from a different perspective. Thanks for the photos. What part of NZ are you from if you don't mind me asking? -- Sincerely, Fran Losey www.mykitlog.com\loseyf ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:05 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ Hope I reduced these enough not to give anyone problems opening them. A sunset flight on the Pacific coast today. Nice flying conditions. Very cool 8 deg C . Inversion fog about 6 ft deep on the runway when landing. Summer is gone .. Downunder MK111c Regards to all Tony Hi Tony O/Gang: You're getting ready for winter and we are getting ready for summer. Beautiful pictures. Wish I could come down, fly with you, and enjoy your country. I noticed you had the old 503 cranked up pretty good. Makes them run better when you keep them blown out. I noticed your jury struts. First time I have seen them on another Kolb. john hauck mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:15 AM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Kolb-List: Cross Country Flying Weather Out West Morning Folks: I usually start watching the weather a week or so before I am ready to head out on long cross country flights. Decided to take a quick look at what is happening a week before departure. Noticed Texas was a little windy next week, then pulled up Clovis, NM, one of my fuel stops: Monday: Sunny, with a high near 86. Windy, with a west southwest wind 15 to 20 mph increasing to between 35 and 40 mph. Winds could gust as high as 55 mph. Looking at weather like that makes me want to cancel my flight. Not only is the wind blowing like mad, it is blowing the wrong way. During the 2008 flight, John Williamson and I spent three days at Ontario, Oregon, waiting for the wind to calm a little. It blew steady at 45 mph with gusts to 55 mph the entire time. Felt strange leaning into the wind every time we went outside. Here's hoping for favorable winds out of the SE going, and out of the NW returning home. No matter what, we can't change it. john hauck Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:49 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Cross Country Flying Weather Out West From: "R. Hankins" The forecast only goes out a week, but it looks good once you get out here. God speed and safe flying! -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297201#297201 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:42 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: Re: 180 turn back to the runway video From: "R. Hankins" I just finished up the annual on the KXP and took it out for a test flight. Having read through this thread the other day, I decided to try a whole bunch of simulated departure engine failures with 180 turns back to the runway. I tried steep and shallow, delayed and instant reaction to the power failure. The worst I could do was a shallow turn after waiting for the stall to tell me I needed to react. This took 400' of altitude. The best case was instant reaction and a tight turn. This took 100 to 150'. I couldn't believe it, so I did it 4 or five times. The most I could lose with the tight turn back was 250' and that only by waiting for the departure stall with the stick back before initiating recovery and turn. No comparison at all between shallow and steep turns. The shallow turns took nearly twice the altitude every time. The KXP is designed to be nimble at these slow speeds and does the 180 steep turn in 5 to 6 seconds. I did several 360s and 720s in each direction at minimum controllable airspeed, trying to force the accelerated stall and just about got dizzy. Just look down the wing and watch the world go round. I hadn't done these in a while. What a hoot! -------- Roger in Oregon 1992 KXP 503 - N1782C Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297202#297202 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:45 PM PST US From: "Jerry Deckard" Subject: Kolb-List: warp drive bolt torque? Anyone know the torgue for the mail bolts to the gear box? Thanks Jerry ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:08 PM PST US From: william sullivan Subject: Kolb-List: Re: warp drive bolt torque - Jerry- I got this from Larry Cottrell about a year ago: - - 175 inch pounds for the hub to gear box - - 120 inch pounds for the blade bolts - ------------------------- ----------- Bill Sullivan ------------------------- ----------- Windsor Locks, Ct. ------------------------- ----------- FS 447- Warp Drive 2 blade ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:00:42 PM PST US From: "John Hauck" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 180 turn back to the runway video I did several 360s and 720s in each direction at minimum controllable airspeed, trying to force the accelerated stall and just about got dizzy. Just look down the wing and watch the world go round. I hadn't done these in a while. What a hoot! -------- Roger in Oregon Roger H/Gang: I agree with Roger's tests. Kolbs are nimble little flyers. Very difficult to get one into an accelerated stall. Easy for a low time Kolb pilot to get one into a mush/stall in level flight and not realize they are no longer flying because the aircraft remains level until it smacks the earth. Very easy to do this on approach to an unfamiliar grass strip. Swear you were flying when he hit the earth, and can not understand how you tore up the Kolb so badly!!! I've been flying these Kolbs for a while and I still use my air speed indicator to let me know how I stand as far as flying the airplane. I know what my stall speed is. As long as I stay above it, I'll keep on flying. john hauck mkIII Titus, AL ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:16:28 PM PST US Subject: Kolb-List: 912 installation From: "albertakolbmk3" Hi guys, Just wondering if someone could share some pictures of their 912 installation. How does the cg work out. What size of prop? How far to the mounting face of the prop flange from the existing rear lord mounts? How much clearance to your tail boom and your flaps? Are you running a prop extension? Thanks, Tony -------- Tony B. Kolb MKIII C Rotax 582 C Gearbox 3.00:1 WD 66" 3 Blade Prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297207#297207 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:09:25 PM PST US From: "b young" Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ Picture from down under the other perspective. Please do not archive. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:33:57 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kolb-List: warp drive bolt torque? From: Richard Girard Jerry, 195 in. lb. comes to mind, but that could be for my Power Fin, too. WD's web site has the information on page one about half way down. Rick Girard On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Jerry Deckard wrote: > > Anyone know the torgue for the mail bolts to the gear box? > > Thanks > Jerry > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:49 PM PST US From: "Larry Cottrell" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: warp drive bolt torque? If you are looking for the Warp prop bolts, it is 175 inch pounds for the ones to the flange and 120 on the blades. Larry Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Deckard To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 4:10 PM Subject: Kolb-List: warp drive bolt torque? Anyone know the torgue for the mail bolts to the gear box? Thanks Jerry ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:58 PM PST US From: "Jerry Deckard" Subject: Re: Kolb-List: warp drive bolt torque? Thanks, Sorry I asked when it was so simple to find. I didn't think of looking on the website. Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Girard To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:29 PM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: warp drive bolt torque? Jerry, 195 in. lb. comes to mind, but that could be for my Power Fin, too. WD's web site has the information on page one about half way down. Rick Girard On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Jerry Deckard wrote: Anyone know the torgue for the mail bolts to the gear box? Thanks Jerry ========== arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:29:38 PM PST US From: "Greg" Subject: Kolb-List: Prop clearance All, I have recently purchased a used kolb firestar single place and was wondering what the clearance should be between the prop and the tail boom, it has a 377 with a 66" 32 prop. Any info would be appreciated thanks Greg ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 11:22:20 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ Yep the 503 was singing. I was still climbing. The VSI dosnt reflect that because it wasnt turned on. Winter is the best flying down here.The nasty thermals go away Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hauck To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ Hope I reduced these enough not to give anyone problems opening them. A sunset flight on the Pacific coast today. Nice flying conditions. Very cool 8 deg C . Inversion fog about 6 ft deep on the runway when landing. Summer is gone .. Downunder MK111c Regards to all Tony Hi Tony O/Gang: You're getting ready for winter and we are getting ready for summer. Beautiful pictures. Wish I could come down, fly with you, and enjoy your country. I noticed you had the old 503 cranked up pretty good. Makes them run better when you keep them blown out. I noticed your jury struts. First time I have seen them on another Kolb. john hauck mkIII Titus, Alabama ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:33 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ On the east coast of the south island. About half way down. 100 mls south of Christchurch.Enjoy you trip to AU. You will love the trip up their East coast . The great barrier reef is something to see. That may be a bit far north for you. Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: Fran Losey To: kolb-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 12:03 AM Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ On 5/9/2010 6:04 AM, aoldman@xtra.co.nz wrote: Hope I reduced these enough not to give anyone problems opening them. A sunset flight on the Pacific coast today. Nice flying conditions. Very cool 8 deg C . Inversion fog about 6 ft deep on the runway when landing. Summer is gone .. Downunder MK111c Regards to all Tony Tony, looks like a great flying day! I am heading down under (Sydney) on business in July, I am hoping to get a day to grab a CFI and rental plane and do just what you did, fly the Coastline and see AU from a different perspective. Thanks for the photos. What part of NZ are you from if you don't mind me asking? -- Sincerely, Fran Losey www.mykitlog.com\loseyf ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message kolb-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Kolb-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/kolb-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/kolb-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.