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1. 04:03 AM - Re: Prop clearance (william sullivan)
2. 06:43 AM - Check List and Floding Wing Question --> Kolb Ultrastar (tbertw)
3. 09:26 AM - Re: Prop clearance (Ralph B)
4. 11:34 AM - first flight of the season (Thom Riddle)
5. 12:12 PM - Re: Firestar (william sullivan)
6. 02:34 PM - Re: Late afternoon flight NZ (Fran Losey)
7. 02:40 PM - Re: Re: Prop clearance (Greg)
8. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: Firestar (Dana Hague)
9. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Prop clearance (Greg)
10. 04:33 PM - Re: Firestar (william sullivan)
11. 05:00 PM - Re: Re: Firestar (russ kinne)
12. 05:12 PM - Re: Re: Firestar (Dana Hague)
13. 05:32 PM - Re: Firestar (william sullivan)
14. 05:33 PM - Re: Re: Firestar (John Hauck)
15. 06:37 PM - Re: Prop clearance (Ralph B)
16. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: Firestar (Dana Hague)
17. 08:42 PM - Ultrastar Aileron Gap Seal (carl tosh)
18. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: Prop clearance (Greg)
19. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: Firestar (WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Check List and Floding Wing Question --> Kolb Ultrastar |
I am purchasing a used Ultrastar. I have two questions - so far.
Has someone developed a preflight checklist for the Ultrastar?
I would like a picture or drawing of the "saddle" that holds the wings in the folded
position.
Both of these items are missing from the Ultrastar that I am buying.
Thanks in advance,
Tim - Spring, Texas
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
gtaylor35918(at)roadrunne
> All, I have recently purchased a used kolb firestar single place and was wondering
what the clearance should be between the prop and the tail boom, it has
a 377 with a 66" 32 prop. Any info would be appreciated thanks
> Greg
Greg, the prop clearance is an inch with a 66" prop. The 32 pitch may be a little
too much for a Rotax 377. I had a 28 pitch on mine when I had the wooden prop.
I would suggest you tie the tail down with an auto tow rope and run it up
to see if you can achieve full power over 6000 RPM. If you can't, then don't attempt
to fly it until you get a lower pitch prop.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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| Subject: | first flight of the season |
Except for a 6 mile flight from my old airport home to my Slingshot's new home
on April 30, today was the first opportunity I had to fly my freshly inspected
Slingshot since I stored it last October for the winter. Rusty pilot skills were
evident in my handling of the direct x-wind of 12 mph gusting to 19, but I
managed to keep the tail behind me. After 1/2 hour of removing rust from my piloting
skills, I called it a day. Good introduction to the new flying season
and very glad to be airborne again.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.
- Edward Abbey
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- Jack- I think I'm going to do as previously mentioned.- Put the nose
cone on, a short windshield, and drop some weight.- The biggest item on t
he weight issue is to change from streamlined steel struts to round aluminu
m.- I am undecided as to whether or not to put a gap seal on it for now.
- At my weight I don't need the extra lift (for now), and the increased v
isibility would be a bonus for a beginner.- The pod can be covered later,
as long as I don't drop my wallet or keys.- This is the nice thing about
the Kolb design- changes can be made at any stage.- Covering is a moot p
oint right now- we still have frost warnings, and I have to work in the bac
k yard.
- Health?- I read the Irish sports page (obituaries) every day, and kee
p out living my doctors.- Even the much younger ones.
- Keep making entries to your web site- I refer to it-frequently.- Th
ank you.
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-Bill Sullivan
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Windsor locks, Ct.
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FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: Late afternoon flight NZ |
On 5/10/2010 2:31 AM, aoldman@xtra.co.nz wrote:
> On the east coast of the south island. About half way down. 100 mls
> south of Christchurch.Enjoy you trip to AU. You will
> love the trip up their East coast . The great barrier reef is
> something to see. That may be a bit far north for you.
> Tony
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Fran Losey <mailto:loseyf@comcast.net>
> *To:* kolb-list@matronics.com <mailto:kolb-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, May 10, 2010 12:03 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Kolb-List: Late afternoon flight NZ
>
> On 5/9/2010 6:04 AM, aoldman@xtra.co.nz wrote:
>> Hope I reduced these enough not to give anyone problems opening
>> them. A sunset flight on the Pacific coast today.
>> Nice flying conditions. Very cool 8 deg C . Inversion fog about 6
>> ft deep on the runway when landing. Summer is gone ..
>> Downunder
>> MK111c
>> Regards to all Tony
> Tony, looks like a great flying day! I am heading down under
> (Sydney) on business in July, I am hoping to get a day to grab a
> CFI and rental plane and do just what you did, fly the Coastline
> and see AU from a different perspective. Thanks for the photos.
> What part of NZ are you from if you don't mind me asking?
>
> --
> Sincerely, Fran Losey www.mykitlog.com\loseyf
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Thanks Tony, I am really looking forward to it! I will be there for 8
days before heading to Kuala Lumpur. I will do some investigating
before I go so I have a flight plan of where I want to see. Should be
memorable....
Fran
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
Bill,
Thanks for the info, thats about what the clearance is on mine with
a 66X32.
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: william sullivan
To: kolb list
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:59 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Prop clearance
Greg- I have an original Firestar with a 447 and a 66" warp
Drive two blade prop. The tip to boom clearance is just about one inch.
There is no prop extension.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks,
Ct.
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At 11:15 AM 5/10/2010, william sullivan wrote:
> Jack- I think I'm going to do as previously mentioned. Put the nose
> cone on, a short windshield, and drop some weight. The biggest item on
> the weight issue is to change from streamlined steel struts to round aluminum.
I would go with whatever was the original strut material (round steel
tubing, no?).
> I am undecided as to whether or not to put a gap seal on it for
> now. At my weight I don't need the extra lift (for now), and the
> increased visibility would be a bonus...
Use the gap seal. I flew my UltraStar without the gap seal... once. I'll
never do it again. Make it out of clear vinyl as I did if you're concerned
about visibility.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
Ralph,
Thanks for the info, and I was planning on doing the engine run up that
you referred to to verify that the engine is i good standing. I am a private
pilot with about 250 hrs and an IFR rating but I can see that I will have a
lot to learn with this Kolb, but it looks like it will be a blast. By the
way can you tell me if there is a good place to get a good prop at a
reaonable price?
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph B" <ul15@juno.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:26 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Prop clearance
>
> gtaylor35918(at)roadrunne
>> All, I have recently purchased a used kolb firestar single place and was
>> wondering what the clearance should be between the prop and the tail
>> boom, it has a 377 with a 66" 32 prop. Any info would be appreciated
>> thanks
>> Greg
>
>
> Greg, the prop clearance is an inch with a 66" prop. The 32 pitch may be a
> little too much for a Rotax 377. I had a 28 pitch on mine when I had the
> wooden prop. I would suggest you tie the tail down with an auto tow rope
> and run it up to see if you can achieve full power over 6000 RPM. If you
> can't, then don't attempt to fly it until you get a lower pitch prop.
>
> Ralph
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000 hours
> 23 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 2 years flying it
> 120 hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297272#297272
>
>
>
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- Dana- The original struts were round aluminum, now damaged. -The ones
currently on it are a nicely made streamlined steel set, but very heavy.
- I don't know who made them, possibly the original builder.
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----------------------- Bill
Sullivan
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----------------------- Winds
or Locks, Ct.
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Bill
If you have time to measure, how much did each set weigh?
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On May 10, 2010, at 7:26 PM, william sullivan wrote:
> Dana- The original struts were round aluminum, now damaged. The
> ones currently on it are a nicely made streamlined steel set, but
> very heavy. I don't know who made them, possibly the original
> builder.
>
> Bill Sullivan
> Windsor Locks, Ct.
> FS 447
>
>
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At 07:26 PM 5/10/2010, william sullivan wrote:
> Dana- The original struts were round aluminum, now damaged. The ones
> currently on it are a nicely made streamlined steel set, but very
> heavy. I don't know who made them, possibly the original builder.
Do the drawings call for aluminum or steel? My US has steel tubes (per the
drawings) and I'm pretty sure my friend's FS has steel struts too.
-Dana
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- I don't have the drawings.- Two sets of struts came with it, and the
round aluminum ones had matching paint.- I talked to Travis a couple of y
ears ago when I mounted the replacement wings.- He said they were old sty
le, with aluminum tubes, steel-ends, and riveted aluminum spacer tubes.
-The welded streamlined ones are definately not stock.- Over 9 pounds f
or the pair, too.
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ll Sullivan
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ndsor Locks, Ct.
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447
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Do the drawings call for aluminum or steel? My US has steel tubes (per the
drawings) and I'm pretty sure my friend's FS has steel struts too.
-Dana
Dana/Gang:
Don't think my memory is completely gone.
Having built an Ultrastar and Firestar kit, both used aluminum tube lift
struts with 4130 steel lift strut fittings and a thick aluminum bushing for
proper fit between the fittings and the tube.
I don't remember steel tube lift struts on either model.
If I have to, I can go dig out the US and FS plans to confirm.
john hauck
1984 Ultrastar
1986 Firestar
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
Greg, you can find used props within your local club and on the web. Just check
around. The best prop for that 377 would be a 2-blade Ivo prop as it's ground
adjustable. I gave one away that I had on my Firestar for about 20 years. It
was still like new. I bought a new one with my new 447. If you have the 5-rib
Original Firestar, you can use the prop without a spacer.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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At 08:26 PM 5/10/2010, John Hauck wrote:
>Having built an Ultrastar and Firestar kit, both used aluminum tube lift
>struts with 4130 steel lift strut fittings and a thick aluminum bushing for
>proper fit between the fittings and the tube.
You're right, of course. The plans show a 2024 strut on the US. I just
assumed mine were steel as they were painted to match all rest of the steel
parts on my plane.
-Dana
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| Subject: | Ultrastar Aileron Gap Seal |
First, I would like to say a great read and pictures of your flying adventu
re John. I need some advice on what to use on my old Ultastar for the ailer
on gap seal. As far as I can see in the plans Homer didn't use the full Sti
ts covering with polyspray. My dilema is, I want to use the polyspay. When
do you attach the ailerons and the gap seal and is the gap seal just tape a
s used on the rest of the covering job? What I am asking is if you attach t
he gap seal with poly brush or poly tack then you have to have the hinges a
nd ailerons on before spraying polyspray and paint. Or do you just glue the
gap seal on top of the paint . If you do then it isn't painted. Helllllp
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
Thanks Ralph,
I will have to check around for a ultralight club here in southern
Ohio.
Greg
by the way I have a five rib with a canister brs any ideas on stall
speed, empty weight,etc. I know that all aircraft are different but like in
type should be similar.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph B" <ul15@juno.com>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Prop clearance
>
> Greg, you can find used props within your local club and on the web. Just
> check around. The best prop for that 377 would be a 2-blade Ivo prop as
> it's ground adjustable. I gave one away that I had on my Firestar for
> about 20 years. It was still like new. I bought a new one with my new 447.
> If you have the 5-rib Original Firestar, you can use the prop without a
> spacer.
>
> Ralph
>
> --------
> Ralph B
> Original Firestar 447
> N91493 E-AB
> 1000 hours
> 23 years flying it
> Kolbra 912UL
> N20386
> 2 years flying it
> 120 hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=297323#297323
>
>
>
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Bill Sullivan
(Old) Kolb Co distributed a plan years ago on how to make a Lexan &
Aluminum center section for the FireStars. This replaced the original Fabric
&
Zipper cover. If you provide me your mailing address I will send you a copy
of it.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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In a message dated 5/10/2010 3:12:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
I am undecided as to whether or not to put a gap seal on it for now. At
my weight I don't need the extra lift (for now), and the increased
visibility would be a bonus for a beginner.
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