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1. 05:23 AM - Insurance (Watkinsdw)
2. 07:29 AM - Re: Prop clearance (Jason Omelchuck)
3. 07:37 AM - Re: 912 installation (icrashrc)
4. 07:45 AM - We're getting closer... (icrashrc)
5. 11:10 AM - Re: Prop clearance (Ralph B)
6. 12:40 PM - Flight regulations at Airventure (dutrac)
7. 12:56 PM - Re: Insurance (John Hauck)
8. 01:04 PM - Re: Ultrastar Aileron Gap Seal (John Hauck)
9. 01:11 PM - Re: Flight regulations at Airventure (John Hauck)
10. 01:12 PM - Re: Re: 912 installation (John Hauck)
11. 01:16 PM - Exhaust pipe coating (Bob Kravis)
12. 03:01 PM - Re: We're getting closer... (cspoke)
13. 03:48 PM - Re: Flight regulations at Airventure (Duane Ransdell)
14. 04:00 PM - Re: Exhaust pipe coating (Richard Pike)
15. 04:05 PM - Re: Ultrastar Aileron Gap Seal (carl tosh)
16. 04:06 PM - Re: Flight regulations at Airventure (John Hauck)
17. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: 912 installation (chris davis)
18. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: 912 installation (John Hauck)
19. 04:57 PM - Re: Flight regulations at Airventure (chris davis)
20. 05:24 PM - Re: Flight regulations at Airventure (John Hauck)
21. 05:37 PM - Re: Flight regulations at Airventure (Ralph B)
22. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Flight regulations at Airventure (John Hauck)
23. 07:22 PM - Re: 912 installation (albertakolbmk3)
24. 08:53 PM - Re: Re: Firestar (Greg)
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Greetings, fellow Kolbers,
Not sure how many of us insure our birds, but if you do, my recent experience may
be useful.
When Jeff and I bought our MK3-C last May, we had no taildragger time, and got
about 5 hours of excellent instruction from a gentleman in Tennessee we all know,
Jim Kmet.
We're both private pilots, with about about 150 and 400 hours total time respectively.
Throw in my instrument rating, and we got the best deal we could find
through EAA-recommended Falcon insurance (using U.S. Specialty Insur.) for hull
coverage and standard liability coverage.
The price? $1700.
When renewal time came up, we were expecting a substantial discount, since we now
have about 40 hours each in our Kolb. The discount was 1%...
Despite our efforts to get Falcon to shop a more affordable policy, they said this
was the only deal out there. Even when I told them that Jeff was not going
to be renewing, leaving only one pilot to cover, no joy.
I then checked out another agency that advertises in AOPA Flight Training magazine.
The company is Aircraft Insurance Resources
(www.air-pros.com). and they found me a policy w/ comparable coverage for $1130. The guy I talked to is Joe Cacho, and the # is 877-247-7767.
Good price, good service- moral of the story, the EAA-recommended company isn't
necessarily the best.
Good luck, and may we never have any claims!
Dave
MK3-C w/ Rotax 912ULS
KPMP
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
Hello Greg,
I would recommend that you get some dual in a ultralight style aircraft before
you fly the Kolb. That 250 hours in a GA airplane will have trained your muscles
in habits that will cause you problems landing a Kolb. If you choose not
to get training, I would suggest your first few landings you do with lots of power
and then back off the power as you gain experience. When I say lots of power,
I mean 2/3 throttle all the way down approach until you touch down. It may
lengthen your ground roll to 700' on pavement :)
Be safe
Jason
Kolb MKIII Yamaha Powered
Portland, OR
gtaylor35918(at)roadrunne wrote:
> Ralph,
> Thanks for the info, and I was planning on doing the engine run up that
> you referred to to verify that the engine is i good standing. I am a private
> pilot with about 250 hrs and an IFR rating but I can see that I will have a
> lot to learn with this Kolb, but it looks like it will be a blast. By the
> way can you tell me if there is a good place to get a good prop at a
> reaonable price?
>
> Greg
> ---
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| Subject: | Re: 912 installation |
I can't answer all your questions at the moment but here's a few pictures.
http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/EngineInstallation.htm
68" 3 blade Warp, 4" extension from Saber. I don't remember the measurement but
there's plenty of boom clearance for a 70" prop.
Seems like John H. had a 72" Warp on for a while. Johns is a Mark 3 while mine
is a Mark 3 Xtra.
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Scott
www.ill-EagleAviation.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | We're getting closer... |
Paul and I are hoping to have the plane @ Airventure this year but there's still
much to be done.
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www.ill-EagleAviation.com
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| Subject: | Re: Prop clearance |
Greg, Jason's comments are right on. You should get some dual in a light aircraft
before flying the Kolb. Your first landings should be with power on at about
4000 RPM with the 377. Most ultralight-like aircraft are so light, they tend
to lose speed fast. The Firestar stall speed is about 25 mph and cruises at 60
mph, 5800 RPM with the 377. GA pilots that transition to a Kolb w/o any training
usually tend to flare early on landing and bend the aluminum landing gear.
This is very common and it doesn't need to happen. There isn't much of a flare
with the lighter Kolbs. Heavier ones will have more of a flare such as my Kolbra.
Have fun and be safe ...
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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| Subject: | Flight regulations at Airventure |
Hey all,
I'm sure I could research this out, but thought I would ask the group first and
see what I can glean from your experience. I have given some thought to trailering
into Oshkosh with my Kolb MKII with the hope that I could perhaps fly around
the patch like they do there.
Just wondering how much red tape you have to go through to actually do that. Any
input is appreciated.
Thanks,
Duane
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I then checked out another agency that advertises in AOPA Flight Training
magazine. The company is Aircraft Insurance Resources
(www.air-pros.com). and they found me a policy w/ comparable coverage for
$1130. The guy I talked to is Joe Cacho, and the # is 877-247-7767.
Good price, good service- moral of the story, the EAA-recommended company
isn't necessarily the best.
Good luck, and may we never have any claims!
Dave
MK3-C w/ Rotax 912ULS
KPMP
Hi Dave W/Gang:
Just renewed with Falcon for 1,200.00. Been with them for about 6 or 7
years. My premium is down from 1,500.00 when I first started with them.
Just renewed a couple months ago. Will keep Joe Cacho's number and give him
a call next year to see if he can beat what I have.
Thanks for the info.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar Aileron Gap Seal |
When do you attach the ailerons and the gap seal and is the gap seal just
tape as used on the rest of the covering job? What I am asking is if you
attach the gap seal with poly brush or poly tack then you have to have the
hinges and ailerons on before spraying polyspray and paint.
Thanks,Carl Tosh
Carl T/Gang:
After completion of wing and aileron construction, fit and predrill the
aileron hinges.
Cover and process both pieces through polybrush.
Attach gap seal with polytak.
Process gap seal with polybrush.
Attach hinges.
Shoot the polyspray and finish paint.
This process is more difficult than attaching bookbinding tape for gap seal
after finish paint and attachment of hinges. The right wing of my MKIII is
original. Gap seal was attached 18 years and 3,000+ hours ago. It is still
serviceable.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Flight regulations at Airventure |
Just wondering how much red tape you have to go through to actually do
that. Any input is appreciated.
Thanks,
Duane
Duane/Gang:
Not too much red tape.
When you get to the Oshkosh UL area, go to the red barn, UL Hq.
Register your aircraft.
Sit in on the next fixed wing briefing at UL flight ops.
You are good to go.
Based on slow times in the UL area at Oshkosh the last couple years that I
did not attend, I feel they will welcome your presence.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: 912 installation |
68" 3 blade Warp, 4" extension from Saber. I don't remember the measurement
but there's plenty of boom clearance for a 70" prop.
Seems like John H. had a 72" Warp on for a while. Johns is a Mark 3 while
mine is a Mark 3 Xtra.
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Scott
Scott/Gang:
I had 3/4" prop tip to boom clearance running the 72" WD.
Running a 71" now.
Main thing I take into consideration is to get the engine as low in the
mount as I can and still maintain sufficient clearance between the oil
return banjo fitting and the root tube of the airframe.
CG is not a problem.
Recently replaced the 12 lb Maule Tundra Tailwheel with a 6 lb Maule solid
rubber tailwheel. Did not do a weight and balance, but there was no
significant difference in the handling of the mkIII between the two
configurations. Biggest difference was transmission of rough field and
pavement cracks between the 6" solid and the 8" pneumatic tailwheels.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Exhaust pipe coating |
As my firefly was reviewed and inspected, I asked my mechanic friend if he
thought ceramic coating the exhaust system was a good idea. The engine has
less than 2 hrs. on it and no visible rust or soot build up so it seemed
like the ideal time to do it. He suggested that I get feedback from the
group before making a decision. I have seen that nearly all exhaust pipes
on 447 and 503 Rotax engines get pretty rusty. I also noted that
replacement parts are very expensive ($500+, no surprise). At $160 ceramic
coating will keep it looking good but will it truly lengthen the life? Has
anybody decided fore or against coating? What was your reasoning?
bk
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| Subject: | Re: We're getting closer... |
Looks good Scott. I'm going to try to be at Airventure. Hope to see you guys there.
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Craig Spoke
Mark 111 Xtra
VW Redrive
Lillian, AL
cspoke@gulftel.com
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| Subject: | Re: Flight regulations at Airventure |
Do you have to show your license or any of that? I should have it, but it
will be close.
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:55 PM, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
>
>
> Just wondering how much red tape you have to go through to actually do
> that. Any input is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duane
>
>
> Duane/Gang:
>
> Not too much red tape.
>
> When you get to the Oshkosh UL area, go to the red barn, UL Hq.
>
> Register your aircraft.
>
> Sit in on the next fixed wing briefing at UL flight ops.
>
> You are good to go.
>
> Based on slow times in the UL area at Oshkosh the last couple years that I
> did not attend, I feel they will welcome your presence.
>
> john hauck
> mkIII
> Titus, Alabama
>
>
--
Sincerely,
Duane
www.amateurradiobluebook.com
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| Subject: | Re: Exhaust pipe coating |
Ceramic coating is probably good, haven't tried it, no opinion. I use John Deere
high temp exhaust paint, it is good for about three years, then I sand blast
the exhaust system and recoat it. So far, so good.
Oh yeah, a tennis ball crammed into the muffler socket opening is a real snug fit,
a bit of duct tape seals it tight, plus more duct tape on the exhaust end.
Sand in the muffler interacting with the 582's pulses would not be a good thing.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Ultrastar Aileron Gap Seal |
Thanks a million for some input John, that cleared a lot up for me .
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---------------------- Carl Tos
h-- carl.tosh@yahoo.com
--- On Tue, 5/11/10, John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com> wrote:
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Ultrastar Aileron Gap Seal
When do you attach the ailerons and the gap seal and is the gap seal just
tape as used on the rest of the covering job? What I am asking is if you
attach the gap seal with poly brush or poly tack then you have to have the
hinges and ailerons on before spraying polyspray and paint.
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Tosh
Carl T/Gang:
After completion of wing and aileron construction, fit and predrill the
aileron hinges.
Cover and process both pieces through polybrush.
Attach gap seal with polytak.
Process gap seal with polybrush.
Attach hinges.
Shoot the polyspray and finish paint.
This process is more difficult than attaching bookbinding tape for gap seal
after finish paint and attachment of hinges.- The right wing of my MKIII
is
original.- Gap seal was attached 18 years and 3,000+ hours ago.- It is
still
serviceable.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Flight regulations at Airventure |
----- Original Message -----
From: Duane Ransdell
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight regulations at Airventure
Do you have to show your license or any of that? I should have it, but it
will be close.
Only if they ask for it.john hauckmkIIITitus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: 912 installation |
John , just my wondering mind . Why the change havent you-been using the
12-lb for a while successfully? just better weight?=0A-Chris Davis=0AKX
P 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly =0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore
.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, May 11, 2010 11:09:31 A
M=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: 912 installation=0A=0A--> Kolb-List message
posted by: "John Hauck" <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0A=0A=0A68" 3 blade Warp, 4
" extension from Saber. I don't remember the measurement =0Abut there's ple
nty of boom clearance for a 70" prop.=0ASeems like John H. had a 72" Warp o
n for a while. Johns is a Mark 3 while =0Amine is a Mark 3 Xtra.=0A=0A-----
---=0AScott=0A=0A=0AScott/Gang:=0A=0AI had 3/4" prop tip to boom clearance
running the 72" WD.=0A=0ARunning a 71" now.=0A=0AMain thing I take into con
sideration is to get the engine as low in the =0Amount as I can and still m
aintain sufficient clearance between the oil =0Areturn banjo fitting and th
e root tube of the airframe.=0A=0ACG is not a problem.=0A=0ARecently replac
ed the 12 lb Maule Tundra Tailwheel with a 6 lb Maule solid =0Arubber tailw
heel.- Did not do a weight and balance, but there was no =0Asignificant d
ifference in the handling of the mkIII between the two =0Aconfigurations.
- Biggest difference was transmission of rough field and =0Apavement crac
ks between the 6" solid and the 8" pneumatic tailwheels.=0A=0Ajohn hauck=0A
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| Subject: | Re: 912 installation |
John , just my wondering mind . Why the change havent you been using the 12
lb for a while successfully? just better weight?
Chris Davis
Chris D/Gang:
I have flown the Maule 8" Tundra Tailwheel for six years. Two reasons I
changed back to the 6" solid Maule:
-I wore out the bearings, pivot and wheel, in the 8".
-Thought maybe...I could get a little better cruise with the much smaller
6".
Results after the change - NONE.
Like I have advocated for many years, Kolbs have very wide CG ranges.
Sometimes numbers are not quite honest. Not telling anyone to do anything
other than what the Kolb Factory plans and instruction indicate for building
and flying Kolb aircraft, but I find them much better performers in the air
than on paper.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Flight regulations at Airventure |
John , Will you be there this year ? bECKY AND i WERE VERY DISAPOINTED LAST
YEAR- VERY FEW ULTRALIGHTS AND VERY FEW LIGHT SORT AIRCRAFT FLYING THAT
IS . cHRIS=0A-Chris Davis=0AKXP 503 492 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled fro
m crash building Firefly =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A
From: John Hauck <jhauck@elmore.rr.com>=0ATo: kolb-list@matronics.com=0ASen
t: Tue, May 11, 2010 3:55:20 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Flight regulation
elmore.rr.com>=0A=0A=0AJust wondering how much red tape you have to go thro
ugh to actually do =0Athat. Any input is appreciated.=0A=0AThanks,=0A=0ADua
ne=0A=0A=0A=0ADuane/Gang:=0A=0ANot too much red tape.=0A=0AWhen you get to
the Oshkosh UL area, go to the red barn, UL Hq.=0A=0ARegister your aircraft
.=0A=0ASit in on the next fixed wing briefing at UL flight ops.=0A=0AYou ar
e good to go.=0A=0ABased on slow times in the UL area at Oshkosh the last c
ouple years that I =0Adid not attend, I feel they will welcome your presenc
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| Subject: | Re: Flight regulations at Airventure |
John , Will you be there this year ? bECKY AND i WERE VERY DISAPOINTED LAST
YEAR VERY FEW ULTRALIGHTS AND VERY FEW LIGHT SORT AIRCRAFT FLYING THAT IS .
cHRIS
Chris Davis
Chris D/Gang:
No plans until after I finish up my flight out West.
Have moved my departure up to Sunday. That will give me 4.5 days instead of
my normal 2.5 days to arrive by noon Thursday. The 2.5 day flight required
two 8 hour and one 4 hour day, without any time for weather. Extending my
time by two days will allow me to fly shorter days, take it easy if I get
tired, or if I have to wait out winds and weather.
Anxious to get to Monument Valley and see my old friends and make some new
ones.
Wish everyone could make this flyin. It is the best.
john hauck
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: Flight regulations at Airventure |
As far as I know, EAA doesn't check for licenses. A couple of years ago, there
were two exact Firestars sitting side by side. One had numbers and the other a
fat ultralight w/o numbers. The EAA didn't do anything that I was aware of. The
UL pilot flew it from the St Louis area without a GPS using pilotage and sectionals.
They do look over your plane and if they see something wrong with it
(like a missing bolt), they will ground it. They will also ground the pilot if
you cross the runway w/o permission (must go the long way around along the sides).
Attend the morning briefing and you should be good to go. They want you
to call the red barn before flying in. Should you have a rough landing or damage
anything upon landing, the FAA will be called on the spot. Be aware and keep
your eyes open and stay at 300' in and out. The EAA has a good video on their
website showing the pattern/route in and out of the convention for LSA's/UL's.
Ralph
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
23 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL
N20386
2 years flying it
120 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Flight regulations at Airventure |
Check it out, Oskosh 2010 UL/Lightplane NOTAM:
http://www.airventure.org/flying/ul.html
john hauck
mkIII - 3,008.5 hours
912ULS - 440.0 hours
US - 385.0 hours
FS - 1,135.0 hours
Total: 4,825.5
The above is time in my Kolbs. Took 26 years to get that time in my Kolbs.
That averages to 185.6 hours per year overall. However, there were
approximately 7 years of down time due to building, rebuilding, and
overhauling, all three aircraft. For the years my airplanes were actually
flying, I averaged 254.0 hours per year. Since my last flight to Alaska,
2004, I have flown very little, other than my annual flight West which takes
about 75.0 flight hours. Does not include hours in other Kolbs, GA, and
military aircraft.
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| Subject: | Re: 912 installation |
Thanks for the info and pics. What is your measurement from the rear lord mount
holes to the face of the prop flange. Just looking for a measurement so I know
how far back to mount it on the lord mounts.
Thanks,
Tony
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Tony B.
Kolb MKIII C
Rotax 582
C Gearbox 3.00:1
WD 66" 3 Blade Prop
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Bill,
Could I get those plans also?
Greg
----- Original Message -----
From: WhiskeyVictor36@aol.com
To: kolb-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Firestar
Bill Sullivan
(Old) Kolb Co distributed a plan years ago on how to make a Lexan &
Aluminum center section for the FireStars. This replaced the original
Fabric & Zipper cover. If you provide me your mailing address I will
send you a copy of it.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
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In a message dated 5/10/2010 3:12:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
williamtsullivan@att.net writes:
I am undecided as to whether or not to put a gap seal on it for now.
At my weight I don't need the extra lift (for now), and the increased
visibility would be a bonus for a beginner.
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